anyone know where the Mind Gazers are?

i have copied the map and drawn in the path up the mountain.
The red line goes to the entrance to the entrance of bearclaw pinnacle.

The purple/pink line that splits off goes to the southern slope that you must slide down to land on the ledge and connected cave to find the ??? for the map quest

Here is the edited map


Also, as far as that "eternal ice" or whatever key item you get from examining the big stalagmites of ice in the caves...
if you fall down a hole when climbing up the mountain, and have this key item, you can examine a "fracture" where you fall down to and get popped back up to where you fell from. This will remove your key item though, so if you do this, remember to get another one the next chance you get.

Edited, Thu Sep 1 11:59:31 2005

Ok I have confirmed that you do NOT need to complete the "To Cure a Cough" quest in order to do the map quest. You do have to read the diary that the quest involves though, and keep reading it until you read page 4. (This diary is in the first house on Watchdog Alley in Southern San d'Oria.) After that, talk to Antreneau at the pub in Port San d'Oria for the quest.

You will need the Moblin Hotrok which was previously mentioned. It drops from the Moblin Ashman in the room with the rusty levers and NPC moblins in Oldton Movalpolis. I killed him about 7 times before getting a drop, don't know if that's average or not.

Once you have your Hotrok, you must head to Thousandfall Ridge in Uleguerand Range. Getting there is rather straight-forward, though definetely not a walk in the park. From the entrance, head right and into a cave. Emerging from that cave, you go down the ramp and begin your trek upward. Head for the hills and at the top there's a cave leading to another set of hills. Climb those hills to reach a cave leading to a more narrow area. Follow this area to a ramp upward, and from the top of the ramp head south. If you have printed out a copy of the map above, you are working your way counter-clockwise around it. You should come fairly quickly to a large open area with not many mobs in it. Be careful here, this is Jormungand's lair. Head straight south through it to Thousandfall Ridge. Once you pass Jormungand, you may breathe easy because there are no more mobs with true sight.

Once you reach Thousandfall Ridge, there are two slopes you may slide down (one facing south and one facing west). You may take either one, because the tunnels are connected, but I prefer the slope that faces south because it has 2 ledges you can stall yourself on mid-fall and /psych up. If you take the southern slope, fall all the way to the lower of the two visible ledges. Here, you can go east or west down the slope toward some buldges at the bottom of the slope. The buldges are hard to make out but you kind of have to go with your gut feeling on this. Under those buldges are caves. For the map quest, you want to slide east and I recommend running back up against the slope so that once you fall off the edge, you are already facing into the cave (assuming you fell in the right spot). If you failed, you will have to head south and up the ramp to the very beginning. It's a pain, but you get pretty good at it. What might help for this, is on the first area you come into at the entrance, head down the ramp and you can look up at the mountain and see the slope from a different perspective. Here you will see the ledges you fall onto, and the two caves you can drop into.

Anyway, once you're in the tunnel, I won't spoil all the fun because I didn't write exact directions but there is a dead-end with a ??? on the ground. The tunnels are not too complicated, just a series of 3-way intersections with one of the 3 paths leading to a dead-end. One of these dead-ends has a ???. Once you find it, trade your hotrok and you will get a cutscene, then receive your map. Congratulations!

Much thanks to Dolobear, his post provided a lot of useful information that saved me much time.

I believe Bonnacon is the NM that drops Cure Clogs.

I've tried to EXP here 3 times so far. Each time there has been death and falling down holes on the way. It takes about 1.5 hours to get to camp and someone will die. On top of that, most everything is VT to 74.

Don't waste your time here for EXPing, it's not worth the headache.

Oh and Curnsa only works *sometimes* to remove doom. I had it work the first time once, then fail twice in a row the second. Same with Holy Water, not gurnateed.

This is not a fun place, stay way.

While exploring last nite, Foomanshoo(68 Rdm and myself(67 Drk) came across this newest HNM.

If anyone cares to see the best looking HNM in the game then here he is:

http://home.bellsouth.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=334&fileid=1265952&groupid=232072&folderid=171802&curRec=1&folderview=thumbs&ck=


He truly is the most beautiful, albeit probably one of the most deadly HNMs in the game(normal hit did 312 dmg to 75 pld).

Spent a day venturing this area with a 72 PLD and 73 BLM.

Found a NM Buffalo called Boccabon or something... he was positioned around (D-9) or (E-9) if my "i dont have a map" skills are correct.

a JPN 75thf/nin solo'd him, with the help of Bloody-bolts... not too sure what he drops though

also noticed monsters called Brontitaurus (very cool looking) up the northern side of this map... I believe these can see through sneak & invis, as twice we ran beside them with sneak & invis and they aggro'd us.

Side-note! The Brontitaurus things also used a move which cast Doom on 1 player. Countdown from 10 seconds and *bam* dead. Hopefully WHM with Erase can kill this effect.

Edited, Mon Sep 27 18:30:04 2004