...or only one? And if so which hatch controls which gate?

Thanks

Edit: okay, one furance hatch moves all gates, no matter where it is located.

Usually one invisible guy goes to the hatch at the west side of G-6 and operates the gates from there. Then the party moves past the gate in F-10 to the hatch north of it. Now the lonely one in G-6 can operate the gates again, since his way back was cut off earlier, or the group in F-10 uses the hatch there.

The lonely one can go now back to Oldton Mov. and re-enter Newton in the south. The group at F-10 operates the gates once more, and they can re-unite there. From there on I don't know how to procede.

Did only Bugbear Matman, and that was enough to do get there.


Edited, Jul 25th 2008 9:11pm by Arnulf

Ok, does anyone know a post that gives a coherent explanation of how the elevator in the east end of Oldton Movalpolis works, and what it takes to work it? Or has someone posted a good explanation? From what I've seen, it looks like two of the three levers can only be accessed by zoning in and back through the southern and northern ends of Newton Movalpolis, and it may take a fourth person to work the elevator from the other side once it's been used, so the first three can get there too.

I love maps, and have finally acquired both the Oldton and Newton maps, but this looks like the only way to access the central area of Newton Movalpolis!

I'm going to post this in both the Oldton and Newton area forums and anyplace else logical I can think of. Please help me out!

Firebrand, Quetzalcoatl Server

this is just a friednly reminder to you all doing the mission and or enm. Remeber there are 3 gates total... when you open the last one before mine shaft it closes all the gates leading to the Rusty Leavers. This also keeps us miners pretty muched locked out. now what ppl have to do when ENMgoers/mission people are rude enough to FORGET TO TURN THE GATES BACK is that when you come to do enm you'll have to go to the northern area and hit furnace and escape just to get throught the middle area again. Now for anyone who reads this and does an enm/mission here please PLEASE remember to turn the gates back to normal after youve passed the gate in the middle row.

I originally posted this in the Oldton Movalpolos section, but I think it will be useful here as well since it shows how to rotate the gates.
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I found a Treasure Chest in Oldton Movalpolos the other day just out of my reach, and I also recently acquired a key off one of the Bugbears. I couldn't leave that Chest just sitting there, so I spent the better part of the day figuring out how to get there. All the information you need has already been posted here but nobody seems to have connected the dots yet. Anyways, here's how to get the 2 Treasure Chests on the upper platforms in K-10.

1. Equip yourself (or bring a friend) with a job that will allow you to escape/warp/teleport out of the mines relatively quickly.

2. Buy 1 or 2 Jars of Firesand (Alchemy) and Prisim Powders if you cannot cast Invis. Bats won't aggro here.

3. Head to K-10 and check where the Treasure Chest is. If the Chest is on the south platform, head to the Newton Movapolos zone at J-12. If it is on the north platform, head to the Newton zone at J-8.

4a. (J-12 zone) Hug the wall to your left. Use invis as necessary to avoid aggro. Eventually you should rezone into Oldton Movapolos right at the south platform. If at F-10 in Newton you run into a gate blocking your way, skip to #5 to read how to open it.

4b. (J-8 zone) Hug the wall to your right. Use invis as necessary. Eventually you should rezone into Oldton Movapolos right at the north platform. If at E-7 in Newton you run into a gate blocking your way, skip to #5 to read how to open it.

5. Rotating the gates- Here is where some people get confused. If there is a gate blocking your way to the Oldton zone, you need to rotate the gate to allow you passage. This is accomplished by zoning into Newton Movapolos at J-8 and following the path (only 1 way to go) to F-6. Sneak is needed for a short tunnel with Dire Bats. Here you will see a Furnace Hatch on the south side of the platform. You must trade 1 Firesand to the Furnace to rotate the platforms. This can be very tricky because of the high level mobs patrolling the entire platform. Only choice is to bring a group to kill them or drop invis, trade item, and reinvis as fast as you can.

At this point the way you came from is now blocked. To get back to Oldton without an escape of some kind is incredibly dangerous and impractical. Just get a friend to come with and get you out. When you trade the Firesand both the F-10 and the E/F-7 gates will rotate 1/4 turn, allowing you passage from either J-8 or J-12 of Oldton to the treasure chest areas.

Hope this helps some of you out!

Edited, Sat Aug 27 19:05:06 2005

I sent in a correction saying that it also connects to Mine Shaft #2716. ^_^

Time to go send in my stuff on the monsters here.

Does anyone know which goblins drop the coffer key? We fought a bunch of goblins, moblins and bugbears that conned Decent Challenge and Even Match to me at 71 and got no drops. Discovered that there were some which read Very Tough and Incredibly Tough in the deeper regions of the map. I'm assuming keys drop off of those, but was hoping someone could confirm.

Yea this place is fun >_> Went here with a level 54 Bst and almost got killed before i too 1 step...came back and used silent oils and prism powders and explored solo. basically i got lost and zoned to find a treasure chest in oldton Molvopos (spelling >_<) i don't suggest going here unless you're carrying ALOT of prism powders or have the invis spell..

Anyone know if there's any mining points in this area? I'm afraid to go wandering around without a map with so many powerful gobs mobs and bugs, but some good mining might pursuade me to try my luck =)

omg, this place is like a maze!
(i had only been to Oldton, and had NO idea there was a newton)

Anyone know what level u should be at to explor this area?? i mean... maybe i could look, but.... at only 29... no doubt i would get pwned

EDIT: nvm.... this is a good spot for when i hit 60ish... =/
but are there any new areas from CoP that i can go to at 29-30?


Edited, Tue Sep 28 18:40:13 2004

Does anyone know how to switch the gates in grids (F-7) & (F-10)?

After zoning into Newton, you have to "rotate" the gates (in the circle areas). It will allow you to zone back into Oldton and flip the two switches that are unreachable from the middle Oldton entrance. Once all three are switched, entrance into Mine Shaft #2716 is permitted. (Simular to Garlaige's "doors")

I understand where the switches are, but I don't know how to flip the path blockers in Newton. ><

P.S. I threw a bottle of Firesand into the furnace and nothing happened, except the room rumbled.

Edited, Tue Sep 28 13:58:42 2004

Anyone know what the furnaces are for? If you trade a jar of Firesand to them, the area where you're standing starts to tremble fo a good 5-10 minutes @_@

First off, they said they haven't played CoP yet, therefore they wouldn't know for sure anyways. They also didn't remember the orders of the zones which doesn't help that much. Second, don't call people morons when you spell words you could easily check when you're done with your post. For example, Either you're just stupid or you meant something else (for "Thinks" of course)

Thanks.

I'm confusing myself now -_-

Not having COP yet here is some info.

In north gustaberg there are two entrances to the first area, i belive oldton movalpolos. The mobs in this area will con Too weak to Easy prey to a lvl 55 RDM. You can also access Oldton Movalpolos from Gusgen Mines close to the entrance right where there's a mining point (there use to be boulders where the zone is).

If Oldton is the first zone and newton is the second zone, as in the one further in. The mobs in Newton will con IT to a lvl 55.

If i have the zones mixed up then just switch the info around.

can we send in maps?