Here guys:

1. Fake chests can be seen on widescreen: FALSE!
Chests cannot be seen on wisescreen whether they are fake or not. Period.

2. Real chests ask for a key, fake chests don't: FALSE!
Mimic or no mimic, when you select one after sneaking up it will always ask for a key. You'll find out soon enough whether you just bumped into a map or a mimic.

Why people give out false info is beyond me. Stuff like that can be easily tested.

I want to reiterate someone else's post to remember to check the spawns in the unmapped area by the Avatar Gate.

I highly recommend antidotes if you're going to be fighting the Treasure chests they have a STRONG LONG poison in fact I never once had it wear. It took me at 10hp/tick from 1100 hp to 280 before I used an antidote.

I could not sleep the chests with sleep bolts, I could acid, blind and drain them.

Aside from the chest locations marked on Vanadiel Atlas, which are accurate spawn markers for the mimics except for two minor discrepancies, there are also two chest spawn points found after taking the elevator down from the 2nd floor to the Avatar Gate. I finally obtained the map from the chest at the dead end - next to the ruins and camped by an ice elemental - after killing the easy-prey mimic at the intersection.

Ok this can be one of the most confusing zones in the game and i have taken my time to create my maps the best i can. each towers lowest level has no map and i have been creating my own for these areas. I have them almost complete but since i had a large update to sit through i posted what i had complete and i'll finish the rest up in a few days or so.

the ones i have complete are the level 40 cap tower (the one with all the colored warps and the shrowded maw at the bottom) the tower closest to Ranguemont Pass, and the tower where Nu pops.

Does anyone know if the Mimic type treasure chests show up on Radar? If they show up on wide-scan, you would think so... but I don't want to lvl my rng up just to get the map...

I was wondering if anyone knows how to obtain the map for this area?

~thanks in advance~

2 other areas connected to Pso'Xja

The Shroudded Maw - Located at central tower, past door where you need the Pso'Xja pass

Promvion Vahlz - After clearing Sacrarium and a few other CS, you head to the NW tower on the glacier map, examine the door will spawn a NM golem with a 100 HP regen ability, I was able to kill it with a 53ish NIN, 69 DRG, and 69 PLD (me)

Go though the door now and SNEAK YOURSELF, or you can aggro 1 or 2 Thousand Eye mobs, take the elevator down and examine the Stone Door, watch the 2 coolest CS ever (dead serious, they rock) and you can go into Promyvion Vhalz

Edited, Sat Mar 12 02:47:44 2005

Kinda suprised no one has speculated anymore about this besides that one post below. I was bored and decided to go exploring. I ventured into one of the uncapped areas of Pso'Xja (1st tower you see after you zone into Beaucedine Glacier from Ranguemont Pass). Just about everything con'd as TW with a few low EP's deeper in that wouldn't agro me.

Yea, so I roamed around trying to figure out the lay of the land... found myself in a trap after clicking on a blue thing labeled ???. Got locked in a room solo'ing two NM's that upon clicking the ??? after defeating them gave me a key item: blue bracelet. Roamed around some more since the blue bracelet can get me past the door with the blue light above it. Found another room deeper inside that had a green thing labeled ???. Same process again... defeated two more NM's and got a green bracelet. Catching onto the puzzle of this section of Pso'Xja I ventured further. Then found a room with a Crystal Activator.. clicked on it, got a cutscene of a gap between two walkways making a bridge appear. Went down to that area and crossed it... went up some stairs and came to a huge elevator that took me down past all the levels I was exploring into a basement area so-to-speak.

When the elevator touched down at the bottom. Directly in front of me was a massive door that looked like it was bashed in by something huge leaving debris everywhere around it. Placed cursor on the door... AVATAR GATE

This basement area only had two exits. Go back up the elevator and backtrack OR a warp that kind of resembled the full moon fountain teleport that warps you outside in front of that tower's entrance in Beaucedine Glacier. What I find interesting about this basement area with the huge Avatar Gate door... is that it completely gives off a BCMN vibe. Because when you leave the room with the Avatar Gate door you get to a fork in the path where you go left or right... left takes you to the teleport out, right takes you to a dead-end obstructed by huge rubble as if it's some supposed drop off point that you reappear at after finishing a BCMN kinda like after some of the avatar battles that respawn you in a different drop off room. A fellow 75 RDM in the area told me he suspects it also to be a new avatar or future mission BCMN in a future update.

Unless this is already something from the CoP missions that I'm not yet aware of. Because I've read up through chapter 5 and read nothing about an Avatar Gate. Just thought I'd share that bit of information thats probably already been brought up and done fell off the forums by now. Meh, but excited to see and tell you all about it if you haven't heard about it. ^.~

The 6th and 13th map of this zone are just copies of each other. To ensure it is just a copy, the only entrances to this zone from Beaucedine Glacier are the towers there. There are only 6 towers in the glacier but the Pso’Xja maps here have 7 entrances labeled with entrances. these maps were gained with auto collection so there was prolly just a extra that the developers didn't take out. Much like how they didn't take out the maps for the Hall of Transferance when they decided not to have maps for the zone.

This place has the most chilling music i've ever heard.


BTW, has anyone made a list of which towers have what cap? I thought the western tower had a 40Cap, but it has none...confused the heck outta me and my friend.

the exp here is calculated like it would be at the level that each tower is capped at. For example, if you are a level 60 in the 40 cap tower and you die in the 40 cap tower, you would only lose the exp that a level 40 would. For leveling, you level as you would at your normal level. So if you are 60 in the 40 cap tower and are exping there, you would still need the normal exp that a 60 would need to level up. And some people might think that you cannont level in here but you can. When you do level, it will say what level you attain but you will still be under the level cap. Hope this clears some things up for some of you wondering how the exp is calculate in this area.

wth! is this place and what do u do here?

Any idea how XP is calculated in the level capped areas? Both gain and loss?

ha ha, messing around with my thf sub on (was 74 PLD/15 THF) i found the NM's. a buddy of mine ran into them the other day but didn't fight them. i gave it a whirl, and killed em both with about 400 hp and 9 mp left XD

silly me, i didn't think they "switched", i thought they were both immune when they acctually switched >_< ugh that coulda save me a lot of time lol. i think the fight took me all in all about 11 minutes ^^

How can you enter this area? I have COP but wasn't able to enter the area. I get the message "the steel gate prevents you from moving any further".

Entered PsoXja from the tower closest to the ranguemont pass zone. I was a 62 thief, and I got there before my blm and paladin buddies showed up to start exploring.

Anyhow, inside I immediately saw labrynth lizards (same critters in gustav), and new tonberrys called Cryptonberrys. Cryptonberrys didn't seem particularly difficult, we killed maybe 6 of them and got 3 rare/ex rocks to drop. I want to say they were called Oradynites or something similar. Anyhow, the tonberries and lizards all conned EP to me at 62. So I invis on by them and look around a bit. I go up a flight of stairs and see a Stone Door w/ a green light overhead. Clicking on it says "there's a green light overhead." How useful. Anyhow, 2 rooms back, there's a ??? in the wall. I walk up to it, hit the ??? and the door slams shut, sealing me in. Then 2 NM dolls spawn. Fun. And I left my warpscroll in my other pants. Not fun. Anyhow, after about 4 minutes, they finally finished me off, but had I been wearing my hairpin, eaten food, and not given up hope immediately, it would have been one hell of a fight. I don't think I could have beaten them both, but it would have been CLOSE. Anyhow, the trick w/ the golems is that only one of them can be damaged at any one time. They do this aoe-looking ability, and then they switch. One becomes invulnerable and the other one can be hurt.

With a blm, pal, thf, we made short work of them, though they were really, REALLY magic resistant. After you killed them, re-examine the ??? and get key item Blue Bracelet. Remember the door with the green light? Well the blue bracelet lets you open doors with the blue light.

So we move off. There's droma (EP magic pots), some aggro fatbats, some aggro dolls.

The really fun part:
Treasure Chests are all over the place.

The Really *not* fun part:
9/10 of them are actually mimic-type monsters. So as a thief, I pounce on the first chest I see, and before I can even pick the lock, the thing has mimic-ized and started gnawing on my leg. It uses all the favorite mimic abilities, like box trap (mean aoe poison/stun) and of course, Draw In (i.e., no running away). Plus they seem rather physical resistant. (they don't like fire, though >=D) So anyhow, important distinctions: Treasure Coffers, when botched, may turn into a monster called "mimic". Pso'Xja Treasure Chests are sound aggro and turn into a monster callled..."Treasure Chest."

Anyhow, we killed 3 or 4 EP-DC treasure chests. Didn't get a single drop. Redmage nearby said the chests drop chest keys. So after hearing that, the next chest we saw, I dove at it with lockpicks, picked the chest and got the map of Pso'Xja (god, I love my job.) I'm guessing what happened was that the chest I picked was a legitimate chest, and not a mimic chest, but there is the possibility that you have 2-3 seconds to unlock it before it mutates into a monster. More testing will have to be done. Also note: an even challenge chest made us escape with 40-70 hitpoints each left. It still had about 65% of its hitpoints. Yeesh.

So, undaunted, we headed back in. We fell down a hole or two, found another golem-trap room and got our green bracelets (same pattern, 1 vulnerable, 1 invulnerable). We went through that green door that I mentioned way back at the start of my post. Right now, we're on the map in the left column, 3rd down. That led to a hallway and a dead-end (G-8) with a Crystal Latticework or some such thing. anyhow, it was a green clicky thing. You hit it, and it makes these 2 squares appear in a room a floor below you that lets you cross a chasm. So we booked it back, fell down a hole, and crossed the "bridge". That leads to...The Elevator. We got on, it takes us down, down down to the bottom, we get off at: The Avatar Door. a cracked and crumbling door that didn't do anything when you clicked on it. This just screamed "Plot-Related" to me. Beyond that, unless you took the elevator back up, the only exit was a teleporter that warps you back outside to the glacier near the ranguemont pass zone.

Anyhow, hope this helps.

Edited, Mon Oct 4 17:00:46 2004

Entered Pso’ Xja from the tower @ (F-8) in Beaucedine Glacier. If you look at all the maps on this page, we were in the last map in the right hand column. Observed the following:

Maze Lizard. Easy Prey to 53RDM. No aggro.

Snowball. Easy Prey to 53RDM. It's "explosion" casts "Frostga". Rather than the normal status text however, it said "Lebarge is Frost." The effect lasted appx. 1 minute, and took 10hp/2sec. I would suggest NOT fighting these unless you can use Stoneskin to absorb all the DOT. They're weak against fire and ice it seemed. Blizzard did about 85dmg, Fire II did about 190 dmg. This one was looking away from me and didn't aggro. It may still aggro sight and magic like other bombs.

Diremite. Easy Prey to 53RDM.

Nunyunuymi (possibly Hunyunumi). Notorious Monster. HUGE. I could walk in between it's legs with room to spare. A 75 (he cast Thunder III) taru rdm was soloing this thing. It used a Dispelga ability that dropped my invisible. It also used some sort of "Shield Break-ga" and a Bind-ga ability. The bind lasted no less than 30-45 seconds. Whenever the taru landed bind and got out of reach, this thing was swatting at me. It hit me 3 times, 2 w/o Stoneskin. Each hit took about 80hp. The Thunder III the taru cast took about 1/5th of it's HP. The -ga abilities didn't do much damage. All in all....this guy didn't seem all that tuff, even with his size.

I submitted all this to allakhazam as well.



Edited, Thu Sep 30 20:13:42 2004

With all these floors, I'd hate to think what the heck drops the key in the place..... Can you get the map in a quest like Attohwa Chasm, or is it in the chest?

Edited, Thu Sep 30 10:24:42 2004

How'd we get a hold of the map? I'm curious as to how it is obtained.

One interesting thind the people I went with found out is that different gates lead to different level caps. I'm not sure if that is true for all of them, but the tower closest to Xarcabard has no level cap restriction. Be mindful of when dropping down the holes though, as even a level 75 will get aggro'd by Thousand Eyes.