So like... Bombs are weak to fire, duh... so, why the heck can Volcanic Bombs pass through Flame Spouts? Honestly SE, do some research on your own game XD

I was in here eariler this morning trying to get the key to get my drg body. I do not know the drop rate for the coffers here, but I got my key on the 2nd mob we fought. Needless to say, everyone who went there for skill-ups was sorely dissappointed.

So, we decided to stay around because someone else needed a key. No more then 10 minutes later did we find another key. ;>.> Okay...slightly odd. I thought this was a very vexing drop.

As it turns out, it was a full moon on iceday. All 5 members of the pt got their keys (even the whm who already had the map!) in just around an hour. So were we lucky or what?!

Oh I can trade an Ice crytsal to get rid of the flame spouts? Cool...

Oh wait 200-400.

Still, those are some nice numbers... that's about 40k - 80k per hour. You sure you're not exaggerating? You're getting that out of Palborough Mines? If that's the case I need to seriously look into mining there (I'm on a different server, but the prices are probably similar).

Edited, Wed Oct 19 18:57:15 2005

I just don't find mining here appealing or efficient. Maybe when I gain some more levels?

For now I'll stick to the Goobbues in Sanctuary of Zi'Tah and havesting in Giddeus.

Very safe to mine here as RDM/BLM since you can Chainspell a Warp if you grab aggro. Went to mine there the first time the other day, equipped with Field gear for body and hands. I went through 15 Pickaxes and got one Adaman Ore and enough Iron Ores, Iron Sands and whatnot to pay for the trip and the Pickaxes used.

Could someone tell me what the gil rate per hour would be if you really knew what you were doing here? I know it will fluctuate across servers, but from the descriptions I'm seeing here, I wonder if people are getting tunnel vision (no pun intended) for the orichalcum and adaman and not really adding up how much gil/hr on *average* (across all farming sessions) is being made. I mean...yeah you score a couple of orichalcums over the course of several trips there if lucky. But is the payoff worth it when compared to how much total time was spent mining? No offense to the experienced miners, I just want to know before I venture out there someday.

I'm just trying to compare this to something like harvesting/crafting where some simple & cheap recipes will net you 100-110k for a 12/stack. On average, just harvesting and crafting for a night in Giddeus (4-5 hours) will net me about 150-200k in thread and drops. That's almost 100% guaranteed.

Is the gil/hr rate substantially higher mining here? In total of maybe... 6 hours of farming, what would the average payoff be on your server? And I mean average , not another anecdote about 'that one time I went there and mined 450k worth of ores in one session.' Those are cool stories, but I'm assuming they don't repesent most of the mining experiences in this place.



Edited, Wed Sep 7 16:52:49 2005

I couldn't help but noticed that most of the posts here are with relation to mining, and naturally they would be. The frits is the best mining spot in game; granted you have the guts/lack of sanity to mine in an active volcano filled with ridiculously powerful bombs, scorpions, gobs raptors.. and the list goes on and on. These are the things we evade with our sneaks and invis in order to make our millions. Now I'll ask you, have you ever once considered soloing some of these said mobs? and no I'm not asking you beastmasters this because I see you here doing it every day :P

I've always come here to mine, only about a week ago I decided to start fighting the mobs here also as rdm 69, fighting the EM - T volcanic Gases, Sulfur Scorpions and Raptors. I don't know what other jobs are capable of this, if any but I'll let you know now how I do this.

I start with all the refular buffs, Pro&Shell IV, Stoneskin, blink refresh. then pull my target with a ranged attack, I'll use sulfur scorpion as an example. when he gets close its Sleep II> paralyze, blind, slow. Then I use this macro..

/equip "Main" "Wind Staff" (for eva+10)
/ma "Water III" <t>
/wait 8
/ma "Sleep II" <t>

recast buffs dark staff heal wait until first increase in mp re-enfeeble, recast my buffs then use that said macro again. at a point when mp gets critically low and the mob was just put to sleep...

/ja "Convert" <me>
/wait 1
/ja "Divine seal" <me>
/wait 2
/ma "Cure IV" <me>

After one convert you can bring this "Tough" Or "Very Tough" down rather quickly by using the first macro I listed, get your 150-200+ exp and move on.

Sure this is no alternative to exp parties, and sure its very time consuming, but to me its also a lot of fun and I felt I should share it with you all ^^

everyone has their own unique experience w/ ifrit but mine involved a lot of joy and pain. I went there as a lvl 71 bst to try my luck at mining and I sure did have it.

Pretty much I charmed monkeys and bats to distract the bombs while I mined. I brought 3 stacks of picks, used only 1 stack and I got 2 orichalcum 200k each , 1 adaman 80k, 2 stacks of bomb ash about 10k each, and sold a damp hakutaku eye I got for 100k.

I was going to try my hand at tarasque but the bombs there were vt to me, and the bats to charm aggro and link and gave me a hard time charming. So between bats and bombs I got killed... and on more than 1 occasion too.

If you are going to mine, I seriously recommend getting the map. Also, minepoint maps won;t help much because the minepoints are spread out evenly throughout ifrit except with very few on the safe point. (imagine how much adaman and orichalcum ore would drop in price if there were a lot of minepoints on the easy side of ifrit) So to be able to get mine points expect to be travelling in places lvl 75's can be chewn up. If you are impatient and can avoid bomb aggro bring ice crystals to trade w/ flame spouts so you don;t have to wait.

Does anyone know the coffer location here? Thank you^^

maybe it would be best to go in here with a lvl 34 WHM? since u can use reraise after u die and the mobs go away? 34 is for buffer not to lose it lol

ive been mining for some time and been dying but it doesnt matter im curently 63 whm and i got orchilum ore and adamtine or when i went there get the map for this place anyways im on ragnerock look me up if you want help on mining im definitly going back my name on ragnerok is demonspawnmatt

1st time mining there:
-15min looking, mining point found: adaman
-10min looking, mining point found: flint stone
-10min looking, mining point found, i die right b4... damn sneaky bombs >.<
-come back
-5min looking, mining point found, died again b4 i could click on trade
-come back
-10min looking, mining point found: iron ore
-5min looking, mining point found: gold ore
-20min looking, i die, whm dlvl... no more sneak.... do'h gotta lvl it back...

total drops: adaman, iron, gold, flint
total money made: 149k
total money used: 13k
total time: 1h15 ( not counting the times when i died and had to come back from jeuno to cauldron )


these r my experiences, just so u know.

I made my first trip here last night, and saw that a party was looking for the coffer for DRG AF... me being the helpful type, looked around for the chest spawns while looking around Ifrits Caukdron, I was wondering if the mining points were inside the tunnels,only hitting one with a flint stone as the payout wasnt what I was hoping for at first. For the aggro part, nothing aggroed me at all after a couple of Sneak/Invis castings.

First Mining Point, First Pickaxe, First Strike, Adaman Ore! That's enough to make me come back even tho I died. The ores are 80k in Jeuno and occasionally 120k in Bastok. So being the hopeful one...I put it in Bastok =P

Hopefully, more luck will be with me.

I mine here frequently, but i have found 2 ???s in one room and have found no info on what they are for. They are in part of the tunnel on the way to the wyverns. One of them is on a bridge over the lava and the other is on a rock nearby. Any info would be appreciated. Also today i saw the volcano "erupt" in that a huge column of lava came up from the center. I don't know what this means at all, but there is a spot at the bottem of Ifrit's Cauldron in the spot near the drop to get to the cloister. I think they may be related and i may try to click the spot during an eruption. Any information on either of this would be very helpful.

Can someone kindly - and descriptively - tell me how to get here from Kazham? I am going to go mining, but I do not know the way there, and running around the Elshimo jungles isn't my idea of fun. ; ;

To start off this I just wanna say do not read this guide unless; 1)You have total and complete patience. 2)You have no problem with dieing alot.
You don't alway's die, but to start your gonna die alot.

Now, I've been mining in Ifrit's for about 5 months now. In all that time, I've made alot of cash, and Die alot of time's. It's not easy, infact to start its almost impossible, but once you get it, you get it.

Tools:
To start off your gonna wanna have a lower lvl character. I use my Blm's Sub, lvl 33 whm. When I started the whm was lvl 25. You want a lower lvl character so when you die, you don't loose to much exp. Having the spell's, Sneak and Invis help's Alot. Try and go Rdm or whm, low as possible with Invis and Sneak. Then your gonna want a lvl 9+ Nin for Tonko, unless you wanna pay a fortune for prism powder's. 4 stack's of pick's, Stack of "Shinobi-tabi"(for tonko) and your set. You can bring extra Powder's and Oil's if your unsure, as well as extra pick's.

When to mine.
Best time's I've found to mine is when the moon is 75% - 75% or 25% - 25%. Full moon and New Moon are best. I've found New moon to be better then Full for a reason I can't figure out.

Where to go.
Befor the Flame Sprout there are around 5 point's. They seem to break more pick's although I have got Adaman and Orich from them so there not that bad. After the Flame Sprout how ever, there are many many point's. If you go and there's no one in there (Which never seem's to happen anymore these day's) your going to have to check them all to keep them spawning. If you do go with someone else you can work it out, keep them in one place you in another, that way you get them all.

What to expect.
You can get Adaman or Orich right away. Both sell for 100k+(most of the time). So usualy if that happen's, your in the money. Although, As I'm writing this post I'm taking a break from 2 hour's of mining (0% New moon+) and I have yet to find anything but colored rock's. You can mine there and find more then 1 Adaman. My biggest find was 6 Adaman in 3 hour's. Although don't expect to find something good every time. If you keep at it all day, Say from 25% to 25% you can make alot of cash(500k+), although it is hard to stay alive.

The survival Game.
Mining in Ifrit's is Hell. You constantly loose Sneak and Invis when you need it the most, and everything agro's to everyone no matter what lvl you are. The reason you need Tonko the most is because the largest amount of monster's in there are bomb's. They agro to Sight and Magic. you can be off invis standing right behind one but if your with in a mile of one and you cast magic, your dead. Bat's are realy annoying to because they agro sound. There are tunnel's with bat's and bomb's together but the mining point's in those tunnel's are the best. You can cast Tonko infront of a Bomb's face and they wont agro. They can't detect Nin magic so unless they change that any time soon, Tonko is your friend. When sneak ware's try and get as far away from bomb's as you can befor you cast Sneak again, athough they dont agro to sound so you can run around them with it off. You can get closer to bat's with sneak off then you can to bomb's when casting sneak.

The Flame Sprout.
This is where I die the most. I've been mining in there for age's and I can get around easy, but the Flame Sprout is unpredictable. There are two bomb's, one that hang's around the sprout, another that roam's around the area. This is where Tonko play's a key roll. While waiting at the Flame Srout, sneak will probably ware off. If invis starts to ware, you can just cast Tonko, you dont even have to move away from the bomb's because they dont agro to it. The Flame Sprout takes around 5 mins to go down, dont bother wasting your cash on Ice Cluster's to turn it off, just wait for it. I usualy use this time to heal MP. After the Flame Sprout you can go left, then stop at the corner, but you have to put sneak back up to go farther. Stuff agro's to sound farther on. There are 3 other Flame Sprout's that I know of. There's one near an entrance (When I say near an entrance, I mean like right there, you'll know it when you see it) and two down a Tunnel deep in. If you use the one near the Entrance, your missing mining point's so dont bother with it unless your in a rush to get deep in. The two other's are for people who know the place so dont worry about them.

Rule's of the Road.
Do Not...Do NOT....Steal other people's mining point's. If there standing next to one, /poke em first then /point at the mining point. If its safe to mine and they dont move then /poke em one more time, If nothing, go for it. If you steal people's point's they will steal your's and then the fun is lost. I dont get people taking my point's often but when it happen's its REALY annoying. Although usualy those people arnt very popular in the game to start. Dont be one of those people. Also if you see a party killing stuff and you get agroed try not to train stuff to them. It hurts.

Where it's at: The Money.
If you REALY want ALOT of cash, you can get it. One of my friend's Mined in there for 1 week, 6 hour's a day and made around 3 million Gil. I mine in there a couple hour's a week to pay for what ever I want to buy the next week. The Price does go up and down for Adaman and Orich but it doesnt look to be going lower then 80k each(That could change). Try to remember, when you get Adaman or Orich and you sell for Alot lower then the listed price in the AH you probably wont be able to sell your next batch for much more. Try and sell at the listed price so that you and I can keep making money on this.

What you'll find.
For anyone who has mined in other place's, you'll know what it's like for rare drop's. In Ifrit's, Adaman drop's about as often as Gold or Plat ore's in other mining spots. Orich is alittle more rare. Although, just because your mining in the best and most difficult place to mine in the whole in-game world doesnt mean you wont get garbage drop's. Your still gonna get Flint stone's, and Iron ore, Plus a few other lower priced item's. You wont get pebble's though(Thank god). Keep at it though because instead of Gold your gonna find Adaman, and that's worth it.

In the end.
It's hard work mining in Ifrit's but the payout is big. I cant find any other way of making Good money no matter how hard I try. If you try it out and die over and over again just remember what I've said here and try to follow the guide. Dont give up, I died 6 time's on my first day with my Blm untill I learnt how to do it well, but I kept at it and it paid out. I still die but as I'm using my lower lvl whm so it doesnt hurt as much. Keep at it, that's the best advice I can give anyone.

If I realise I screwed up on this post, or I have anything New to add, I'll edit it. If you guys see that I've missed something, tell me.

Hola, I have started becoming a usual at Ifrit's since I got whm to 20 and nin to 9 just to mine here. To new and experienced miners...
1) Do not use Sneak Oils / Prism Powders, way too expensive, lvl whm to 20 and nin to 9 for Tonko: Ichi in my opinion.
2) Work in tandem with one or two of your LS buddies, it helps so much. For anyone who is familiar with mining in Ifrit's, it can often be quite difficult to drop down to the lowest floor then work your way back up trying to clear points. With a partner or two, we divide up the territory and let each other know when we kill a point to alert the others of possible spawns coming.
No ground-breaking info here, just suggestions

Got an adaman and darksteel in about an hour of mining ^^ Will return tomorrow with some buddies and find some more.

double post >< my first ever

Edited, Fri Jul 16 00:19:23 2004

I got an adaman ore this past weekend, it was on my second mine point :)

After that, i got only iron ore, bomb ash, differents rocks and iron sand.

But, I finally bought my second sniper ring!!!!


http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?8817

Ok, i've been here about 5 times now to mine. found 1 mining point, never got adaman ><, just colored rocks, iron and sulfur.

I was looking at the link to the mining page, and cant get to certain areas because of the firespouts. Can I get past them, what do i do to make them go down?

I was here mining for a couple hours hoping to strike it rich. Out of about 50 swings using field gear I got a lot of sulfur, bomb ash, and iron ash. No rare ore><. I went as ninja so i was able to stay invisible with tonko but was spending 700 gil for each silent oil used. The bombs here aggro by sight and they are the most common mob so if you have a way to invis yourself you should be good for the most part. I didnt make any profit but it was pretty fun exploring the area and I got to take some pics of the ash dragon. Have fun mining and good luck!

"I have been here...Ifrit is in. However do not enter unless with a completely maxed party of 18 70/35...perhaps now it will be easier with the 70 cap taken off. Ifrit defies all possibilities of hard; I do not think any have defeated him yet. My party was close but no such luck. Take *extreme* care in here; do not solo unless you wish for a quick and painful death, and no not come in here at all unless you have your AF armor and have all level and skill capped."

.......... the pt that you need for EVERY summon quest, (discounting Leviathin and Fenrir) does NOT need to have all 70+s.... ONE preferred 70+ PLD to tank, then the rest of the pt can be 50-60, higher being better. Furthermore, you cant HAVE an alliance fighting summons...... one pt only. On top of that, a LOT of people have beaten him.... <sigh>

to those summoners, these quests are not that bad, just construct a smart pt with a high tank. My normal pts looked like this:
WHM WHM BLM SAM DRK PLD(lvl 74)
only PLD was high lvl the rest of us were 50-60
another pt:
WHM WHM BLM BLM NIN PLD(high lvl)

its not that hard, hardest part is finding a tank, there are plenty of people wanting summons that you can fill your pt with once you have a tank.

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58 WHM/32 BLM/15 THF/15 SMN - Bismarck

I've goten by one before, and can't do it again. Is there a trick or something?