Vana'diel Bestiary: Hoo Mjuu the Torrent

Wanted this badly for my BRD so I went to farm it as 34 RDM/BLM. I think I killed him 4-5 times and no drop. Gave up, leveled THF to 16 and went back one day as RDM/THF and got monster signa the first time it popped.


There seem to be a lot of people around Giddeus doing whatever and exp parties also. Competition! My tactic was to keep the entire pop area clean of all mobs the entire time so nobody else would even bother to come there. Worked well and earned me quite a few beehive chips and yagudo necklaces. Also got a Foe Lullaby for my BRD from Yagudo Piper.

Got this after about 40 claims Xo sold alot of mitts and made good gil too. Camp this guy if you need cash. Spawned on lower part of map... Never seen him there before but i dont care cuz i got the staff!!! Happy Hunting

The Mendicant on the south side was the ph for sure as i killed him about 6 times then wham! NM pops right when the Mendicant PH should of. My first try at this NM. No drop x.x but thats ok, ive only camped him once. I will try again soon.

0/1

Well , I was being pretty fussy about level sync parties, turning down any that were more than 5 levels below my current level, and since I knew this would mean waiting longer for exp, decided to camp this

1/1 YAY!

Sometimes, being fussy pays off ^^

I'm thinking of soloing this as a 28 MNK/WAR and I might serll the monster signa

I just recently decided to camp this guy and within about 3 hrs of camping im 1/2 on the signa but i was wondering if any one could tell me the PH method to him im a rng 28/nin 14 and it would speed up spawn time if i knew just which ones to kill. thank you.

0/5 on the day. I was graced with 3 Deodorize and 2 Zealot ...Pathetic.

Edit: OK in the last two days I'm 0/12 and I'm about to give up and just buy one ...This is just ridiculous.

Edit: Finally ... 1/22. I will never ever camp this damn thing again !!



Edited, Jul 15th 2008 11:08am by Lymaster

I hate this bird.

Just killed this NM after camping for ~1hour zealot's mitts dropped tho

There were 2 medicients popping i kept killing em both.

**edit**

It repopped after 1hour, got zealot's mitts again ><

Edited, Jan 3rd 2008 2:35am by anilanar

i agree with Deyessorc 100% there is no way to make the drop easyier im 1/1 on this mob and after i see the drop i dont go making theorys up about ways you can make a slight difference in the drop rate yes deal with it its a lucky drop so stop giving people false hope its annoying.

Just starting playing again a little over a week and a half ago, and was chilling in Giddeus waiting on my bro and friend to arrive to kill the dragon so I could get Rank 3, and got claim 2 times, Monster Signa dropped on the second kill. Got claim with voke on my 30WAR, think there was maybe 2 other people camping it, a 75BLU and a 55THF.

Edited, Oct 16th 2007 2:48pm by Lofi

Edited, Oct 16th 2007 2:49pm by Lofi

i went to camp this guy as a lvl 25 brd so i am killing the yagudo's and then he pop's. i claim him with luluby and then i cast pae on me to get more health then i got full HP and MP i attack him with minuet and madrigal on i get him to about 20% health then he uses bendiction. he gets me to 30 health when a lvl 75 whm walks up to me and he see's me dieing. /laugh. and he lets me die. ; ; then i die. then he kills Hoo Mjuu and gets the signia ; ; but he raised me then i went to windy and changed to 37 drg and right when i get back he pops and then i got the claim i was drg/whm so i could healmyself and i kill him and it drop's!!!!!! i am 1/16 ; ; oh well lol
I am Minishippo of alexader from bastok send me a /tell if you read this
DRG37 RDM30 BRD25 WHM18

So i was expin in giddeus. I like to solo as drg, it's a little more interactive than some pts are O.O... Anyway mjuu pops and i jump em. I slowly start to lose ground hp wise and start spammin my <hpp> macro. I get to 33% and before i use spirit surge stay there. Spamming dia with my 106 mp pool from rolanberry pie i manage to stay up. OH NO SILENCE! Yes, no more dia healing for me! I use spirit surge and go to almost full hp, over 100 tp and get a fresh jump. Finally he falls.. I look at the loot expecting mitts or magic and see the signa. Very happy with my drg adventure!

Guys,
To everyone complaining on the drop rate, deal with it! Most NM's have a very poor drop rate, especially when not influenced by TH (such as Torrent isn't influenced by it).

I also am a firm believer that making connections with a WS or letting a mob (NM) hit you influencing the drop rate is just conjecture and a case of your mind influencing the perceived outcome.

For example, on most 'big' NM's that I've gotten drops from over the years, I have always used WS' on. In fact, I let the 'crowd notion' get to me a bit for awhile and was scared to use WS' on NMs. There is no link and in fact, the crazier I get on destroying an NM with a ws and such (contrary to the mindset), the higher a chance I've noticed on the drop. This leads me to conclude in my mind that there is no connection whatesoever.

The problem with the human psyche is that when we do something that has a low probability of a favorable outcome and succeed finally, we sort through everything we did at the time to see what "caused" it. I put the word caused in quotes b/c that is what our mind automatically reasons as a conclusion.

Take gambling. You will see more superstitions of the geriatric (old folks) population when in a casino than probably anywhere else (maybe MLB players as well - it's crazy). They will have little "isms" to help influence a winning streak just because that is the connection that there mind can think of as a causative factor in the past as to why they succeeded. In reality, of course, we know it is luck.

So when you throw a partial skill into the mix (i.e. as in baseball), you REALLY think you are influencing the outcome. That is why baseball players cannot deviate from their 'ticks' as it were. Some players have it much worse than others. Take a look at a baseball game this summer for a bit. Notice the batters and how badly they have it (pitchers too). They are in control of the game at the moment more than anyone else on the field. This, combined with the notion that they have caused things to happen in the past as favorable, leads them to pattern exactly what they did in the past. These set patterns, ticks, whatever you want to call it, are imprinted; that is why you will see some batters take off their gloves and put them back on/re-tighten them in between each pitch practically.

Woah, I know this is way off the subject, but in a round-a-bout way, I'm actually making a point here. It is to point out that, when you step back and look, the connections that we make as to why we get a monster signa, a rare NM drop, or any treasure in this game are simply laughable at best. Now I know there are things built in that perhaps influence drop rates (moon phase, day, the mysterious treasure hunter trait), but the less plausible ideas such as letting a mob hit you more or using a WS seems just ludicrous to me.

It is as if you are fighting an NM, and you turn off your TV during the fight and turn it back on again, and viola: drop! It is like making the connection that turning the tv off caused a drop.

That's the same causative event as using a WS. It just simply isn't true. I've gotten signa 2 times out of somewhere in the 30's. I've used WS' about half the time and there is no change in rate.

So to sum up my dissertation for some useful tips perhaps:
-this guy isn't influenced by treasure hunter
-he is a bad drop rate, so expect this going into the camp. You may get lucky and go 1/1. Bravo and you have just arrived at a good place at a good time. Nothing more, nothing less.
-When you let all the yags spawn and there are 4 mendicants, his window is open. He will spawn in place of one of the PH's after their death and respawn time is up. May take a bit.
-If you see 3 Mendy's, one of the pipers can be a PH. It just happens randomly, so his window can still be open. To test this, kill all Mendy's and Pipers and see how many Mendy's repop, rinse and repeat.
-Finally...please note that sometimes there are 4 mendys but you only see three. Check to see if a Mendy has wandered off the cliff. He is suicidal and can be one of the PH's! I've seen the 4th Mendy wander off of the cliff many times but people always fail to catch it.

Okay, back to work for me
peace

Well, i run low on gil, and i'm bored, and i want an NM with about 100k drop that i dont need to work at getting. So i thought this will do perfect (130k).

So heres what happends, hope it helps you:

RNG63 - Using Shadowbind to claim & got all claims
>>
17:43 (Killed) - Got deoderize, pwned him in 2 Rattk hits..
18:46 (Killed) - Roughly an hour later, killed him using Sidewinder (got mitts)
19:50 (Killed) - Killed him using Sidewinder again and got Deoderize.
21:22 (Killed) - An hour and a half later, killed him using no WS, got Deoderize.
23:23 (killed) - 2 hours later, now i got a tip off from an LS member here, i used my daggers to attack him this time and let him kill me off abit, he used benedication and then protect, then warcry, he hit me a little bit more, then i killed him, bingo, got the drop.

Done WITHOUT TH1 or TH2

I noticed a slight pattern in the time's he spawned after i killed the PH's (Medicants) first 3 were an hour between each pop, 4th was 1 and 1/2 hours, and then 2 hours, i dont know if that's any help but thats my log of his time's

Notice that the longest pop dropped the Signa.. also because i let him use some of his job abilitys i think that may have something to do with drop rate on this guy, giving that i gave him NO chance whatsoever before and i let the battle going for about 3 min's when i got the drop, so let him hit u abit, see what happends.

Would be nice if someone tested this theory, and i hope this helps, thanks.

Edit: All 5 times he poped in the corner of the bend to the right of the BIG tree, in that little pool.
If this helps:
[IMG]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/tophatkp/ffxi.jpg[/IMG]

Edited, May 17th 2007 7:25pm by DariganIFRIT

Edited, May 17th 2007 7:38pm by DariganIFRIT

For signa, im 0/16 and on mitts 6/16 and 10/16 on the scrolls I hate this thing so much right now >,> TH1 doesnt seem to help much on nms >_>

I've been camping this thing for literally 24 hours. (12 hours a day) and he has not dropped Signa all of the time I've claimed.

The first time I camped he dropped it, and a few times after he dropped it. There's been an RMT camping the 24 hours I have been, it so obvious he's botting and such, lol. Level 30 something with level 7 armor, the moment Hoo spawns, he Flee's and Provokes. Then he runs back to the exact same spot with his back turned to his camp. -__-;

Just wanted to add i have camped this thing for 2 years and i finaly got the drop.In that time i have had the claim a few time from other ppl there and let me tell you there is nothing better than being whm/blm and getting the claim from a war/thf lol.Anyway just wanted to add if i can do it any one can just keep at it my next target is the emp in the dunes ah well heres to another 2 years lol.

Does anyone know the spawn pattern or behavior of the Place Holder?

This mob will ALWAYS drop one item - eitehr Deodorize, Zealotts Mitts or Monster Signa.

TH 1/2 just offers the chance of having more items as a drop. But Hoo Mjuu can only drop 1 item. So TH is useless on him. Definitely.

And for the record: 16/35 or something like that. Never used any kind of TH.

I've camped this guy so much it's insane. I'm 0/42 on drops of the signa. Not including the times I've seen him and not gotten the claim. I don't know about the other servers but on Fairy prices have plummeted. I don't even care about selling the signa anymore. (When I started camping this guy it sold for almost 1mil!) I'll probably keep it as a trophy and use when I'm lvling BRD or BST at some point in the far future.

I've made a comic involving my experience with this guy.



I think it's explains my characters feelings quite nicely!

FYI I've waited up to three hours for his pop. The mendicants are in fact the place holders. They respawn after five minutes and his place of popping is random. I've got camping him down to an art.....so sad.

>< Sway master NM spotter, master NM camper.......not Master NM drop.

I decided to camp Hoo Mjuu after having some difficulty charming some BCNM mobs with my BST. I researched the NM on every forum I could find, and found that some info was good, while others were just bullsh*t. Here are my experiences with Hoo Mjuu the Torrent on Unicorn server.

Spawn Locations: The map on cannotlinkto isn't 100% correct. Once you get up to Hoo Mjuu's plateau, there are 6 spawn locations -- which are all over the plateau. Just take a close look at where the Yag Medicants spawn and you'll see 6 spawn points. The best spot to stand as far as viewing angles seems to be the high rock in the middle of the plateau. You can't miss it, it kinda juts out over the edge. I've gotten most of my claims from seeing him spawn on that rock, and it provides easy access to any direction you need to run to claim.

Placeholders: The Yagado Medicient is the placeholder for Hoo Mjuu. I've tested this theory on the few times I was the only one camping. There are some who say that killing anything but the placeholders will lengthen the spawn time of the NM, but idk, i think thats bullsh*t, but whatever floats your boat. Personally, I don't bother killing the rest of the Yagado just b/c I don't need any of the items they drop, and it distracts from looking for the NM.

Claiming: I've seen almost every job out camping Hoo Mjuu, and I stand firm that /bst is the best way to claim. I've had Hoo Mjuu claimed before these /thf even have time to get their crossbow out. My reasoning for /bst is that /charm is an instant claim, and has a very long range (hmm...longer than provoke, and i belive about the same as the RNG's shadowbind). You do what ya want, but ranged weapons just take too long to claim. Even if i'm out of range with /charm, I can usually get in range to use it before /ra can shoot.

Respawn Time: From what I can tell, normal respawn time 1-2hr, with the longest i've encountered being 2h20m.

Drops: I'm around 1/15 on the Signa. I got the Monster Signa my second claim with /bst on a New Moon (0%). However, I have yet to see the signa drop again, even as /thf.


Kupo!

So im out farming beehive chips when i get the idea to go wait for torrent. I wait 15-20 minutes and see him... someone else gets claim. So i stick it out, 2hours on the nose he pops. i get him that time but only scroll droped (cheap bastard) so i go get some food and drink and watch some tv while i wait a bit. a hour and a half later i come back and there isn't anyone out there so i kill off the beastmen and next round of pops there he is. i kill him and get the monster signa! so i go to bed with a big smile on my face. after work yesterday i log on and he pops like 3 minutes after im there, same guy as before gets the claim so i wait around again close to 2 hours. right after a third guy logged (leaving me the only one there AGAIN) not 5 minutes later he pops next to me i kill him and GET THE MONSTER SIGNA AGAIN! i almost wet myself!
this now puts me at 3/6 on torrent for getting the staff so idk how some people say they have such bad luck with him >.< anyway has to tell someone about this.

I thought I might share my camping experiences about Hoo Mjuu. From what I noticed there are 2 constant Medicants that spawn every time and his PH is one of the 2. Respawn time on the Medicants is 8 RL minutes roughly or about 3.5 game hours. When people run through the area killing everything this has a possibility of adding more Medicants to the list which makes it a little harder to find the exact PH. As you kill the excess medicants they normally change back into Pipers or the other yags. I'm 0/10 on this guys signa with TH2, he's beginning to become a pain; but I'm not leaving into that Staff takes up the last spot in my Inventory.

Update: 1/11 Now yeah!!! no more camping for me, beat 4 other campers to him and he finally dropped the staff on lightsday with 100% Moon phase. :)
GL camping!

Edited, Dec 28th 2006 9:02pm by MonkeyboyJay

I was running by for the 2-3 mission, just happened to see this guy pop. I was a little nervous at first wondering if I could take him on, and there was a RDM running for him so I 'voked to get claim. I painted the floor with his brains and walked away with zealot's mitts, no idea at the time about the monster signa.