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Vana'diel Bestiary: Hoo Mjuu the Torrent  

Family:Yagudo
Found in:Giddeus
Job:White Mage
Level:16 - 17
Flags:
  • Notorious Monster
  • Aggro
  • Linking
  • Detects by Sight
  • Based on Wind
  • Weak against Ice
Drops:
Updated: Fri Dec 28 16:26:12 2007

Hoo Mjuu the Torrent Picture

A magical priest who can cast forth spells like water gushing from a spring. He seems to have connections with paganism and is met with disdain from his fellow Yagudo.

Uses Benediction. Lottery spawn.

Some/all of the information in this article has been culled from various FFXI guides, and translated by Elmer the Pointy.

This page last modified 2007-09-26 07:24:17.
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Lower Level=Longer Fights=Better Drop Rate?
# Jul 27 2007 at 12:01 AM Rating: Decent
Have you ever heard fighting longer increase your drop rates? Well, have you also heard rumors that lower level people get better drop rates?
They kinda connect. The lower level you are, the more time it takes to kill it.
Being a 29THF/14WAR(New char.-havent hit 30 w/ any jobs to unlock NIN), it takes me a decent amount to kill him but, I do it w/ ease.I don't know what to say other than I'm lucky as sh*t. 2/4 on Hoo Mjuu the Torrent. Both times I got the drop, I had links(probably means nothing). All in all, level probably has nothing to do w/ it but, meh.

EDIT: 3/5 now. The luck continues.

Edited, Aug 15th 2007 2:21:51am by FEGerik
Control the mendicant spawns
# Dec 03 2007 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
I had heard that the PH is the mendicants for this Nm, so I was lucky enough to be the only person camping it on fiery server one time. After a while of killing the mendicants and just any other yag that may link nearby I noticed that the mendicants were starting to clump on one side of the spawn area while the other types spawned next to the cave.
I think that only so many yag can spawn in one spot, so I had it a little easier watching a smaller spawn area than normal, other than when the occasional person ran through and killed everything, messing up my spawn.
0/3 on the signa so far, but I'm 2/3 on the mitts and 1/3 on the scroll.
Lower Level=Longer Fights=Better Drop Rate?
# Dec 03 2007 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
B.S. You lie.
Myths and some tips on Torrent
# Jun 06 2007 at 12:23 PM Rating: Default
Guys,
To everyone complaining on the drop rate, deal with it! Most NM's have a very poor drop rate, especially when not influenced by TH (such as Torrent isn't influenced by it).

I also am a firm believer that making connections with a WS or letting a mob (NM) hit you influencing the drop rate is just conjecture and a case of your mind influencing the perceived outcome.

For example, on most 'big' NM's that I've gotten drops from over the years, I have always used WS' on. In fact, I let the 'crowd notion' get to me a bit for awhile and was scared to use WS' on NMs. There is no link and in fact, the crazier I get on destroying an NM with a ws and such (contrary to the mindset), the higher a chance I've noticed on the drop. This leads me to conclude in my mind that there is no connection whatesoever.

The problem with the human psyche is that when we do something that has a low probability of a favorable outcome and succeed finally, we sort through everything we did at the time to see what "caused" it. I put the word caused in quotes b/c that is what our mind automatically reasons as a conclusion.

Take gambling. You will see more superstitions of the geriatric (old folks) population when in a casino than probably anywhere else (maybe MLB players as well - it's crazy). They will have little "isms" to help influence a winning streak just because that is the connection that there mind can think of as a causative factor in the past as to why they succeeded. In reality, of course, we know it is luck.

So when you throw a partial skill into the mix (i.e. as in baseball), you REALLY think you are influencing the outcome. That is why baseball players cannot deviate from their 'ticks' as it were. Some players have it much worse than others. Take a look at a baseball game this summer for a bit. Notice the batters and how badly they have it (pitchers too). They are in control of the game at the moment more than anyone else on the field. This, combined with the notion that they have caused things to happen in the past as favorable, leads them to pattern exactly what they did in the past. These set patterns, ticks, whatever you want to call it, are imprinted; that is why you will see some batters take off their gloves and put them back on/re-tighten them in between each pitch practically.

Woah, I know this is way off the subject, but in a round-a-bout way, I'm actually making a point here. It is to point out that, when you step back and look, the connections that we make as to why we get a monster signa, a rare NM drop, or any treasure in this game are simply laughable at best. Now I know there are things built in that perhaps influence drop rates (moon phase, day, the mysterious treasure hunter trait), but the less plausible ideas such as letting a mob hit you more or using a WS seems just ludicrous to me.

It is as if you are fighting an NM, and you turn off your TV during the fight and turn it back on again, and viola: drop! It is like making the connection that turning the tv off caused a drop.

That's the same causative event as using a WS. It just simply isn't true. I've gotten signa 2 times out of somewhere in the 30's. I've used WS' about half the time and there is no change in rate.

So to sum up my dissertation for some useful tips perhaps:
-this guy isn't influenced by treasure hunter
-he is a bad drop rate, so expect this going into the camp. You may get lucky and go 1/1. Bravo and you have just arrived at a good place at a good time. Nothing more, nothing less.
-When you let all the yags spawn and there are 4 mendicants, his window is open. He will spawn in place of one of the PH's after their death and respawn time is up. May take a bit.
-If you see 3 Mendy's, one of the pipers can be a PH. It just happens randomly, so his window can still be open. To test this, kill all Mendy's and Pipers and see how many Mendy's repop, rinse and repeat.
-Finally...please note that sometimes there are 4 mendys but you only see three. Check to see if a Mendy has wandered off the cliff. He is suicidal and can be one of the PH's! I've seen the 4th Mendy wander off of the cliff many times but people always fail to catch it.

Okay, back to work for me
peace
Myths and some tips on Torrent
# Jun 10 2007 at 12:36 AM Rating: Decent
ZOMG I turned my tv off in the middle of fighting Hoo Mjoo and the Signa dropped! Same thing when I was fighting Lizzy! How does SE know when I turn my tv off? Lol those crazy programmers! I think you're on to something Deyessorc, rate post up ppl.
My Experiance..
# May 17 2007 at 3:24 PM Rating: Decent
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signet staff ^-^
# Apr 26 2007 at 2:18 AM Rating: Decent
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I suddenly decided I wanted to be a bard again since I was never getting invites for dark knight, so I headed out to camp this guy. There were about 5 people there camping him when I got there. I went a thf/war so I could Use my TH2+1 and provoke to claim.(we all know /ra sucks at claiming compared to other job's abilities)

Two of the people there were killing the placeholders so I watched the order in which they killed the mobs and then the order in which the mobs popped back up. When I saw that the ones killed closest to me (left of big rock) were popping again I suspected that another was going to pop soon closer to the cave, so as one or two were killing the yagudos that had just popped I started to run towards the cave to check and there he was. Provoke, got claim and killed. 1/1, I was there for a total of 15 minutes.

I'm not sure if it was just luck that I ran over there right at that time or if watching the order they are killed and the order they come back up really does work, I've never camped him before.

Afterwards I just helped two of the people get yagudo beads for a while and then went to camp stray mary. Got her but no drop 1/6 on her -.- sold it when I didn't want to be a bard anymore.

Hes evil >_>
# Apr 25 2007 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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For signa, im 0/16 and on mitts 6/16 and 10/16 on the scrolls I hate this thing so much right now >,> TH1 doesnt seem to help much on nms >_>
Hes evil >_>
# Apr 27 2007 at 8:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Hes so evil im 0/27 now and im giving up for a long time on this one >_>
Hes evil >_>
# Apr 25 2007 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
he's not evil >.> he's an stingy taru in yagudo costume (cause all taru are...)<.<
I'm a Thief and a Bard all in one
# Mar 22 2007 at 7:07 AM Rating: Decent
I was trying to farm bees one day but a Galka theif was doing it. I could not get any so I decided to give up and logged in Giddeus. The next morning I start playing... HES STILL THERE!!! I say ***** it and I decide to look to see if this monster was there. I start to approach the site when I hear a protect go off. I was like... that's not normal. I turn around and there he is. With a THF and some other guy chasing after him. I pull out my sword and hit him and got the claim. Then the guy says to invite him, and I just keep on fighting and got the staff. I then said I got it, and to prove it I equipped it and he says... I'll buy that off you right now for a price less than the AH. He says the reason for that was because they were camping this thing for a long time and they wanted it. In the end I sold it at the AH for 190k and now I am pissed because it has gone up in price. They must have been pretty pissed to see a Taru walk around the corner and steal Hoo Mjuu the Torrent and then get the staff. It was funny, but I did feel a little bad for them.
This guy is the biggest asshole I know.
# Mar 18 2007 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
I've been camping this thing for literally 24 hours. (12 hours a day) and he has not dropped Signa all of the time I've claimed.

The first time I camped he dropped it, and a few times after he dropped it. There's been an RMT camping the 24 hours I have been, it so obvious he's botting and such, lol. Level 30 something with level 7 armor, the moment Hoo spawns, he Flee's and Provokes. Then he runs back to the exact same spot with his back turned to his camp. -__-;
Pop time and respawn points
# Mar 17 2007 at 6:30 PM Rating: Default
Repop time on this is every 1 hour and 10 mins on the dot. 1/8 on it today ^^. Spaws as soon as a 3rd Persecuter dies after waiting 8 mins. If you time it right 1 Persecutor dies and 1 minute and 50 seconds later a 2nd pops. When you're waiting for the 3 to respawn it's an 8 minute wait. So basically Perscutor #1 8 minutes, Perscutor #2 1 min 50 seconds, Perscutor #3 1 min 50 seconds, then directly after Hoo Mjuu every 1 hour 10 mins.

He pops in either 1 of 3 places. One to the far left (the side of the cave), one in the middle near a Harvesting Point, and a 3rd to the far right across from the path to the South East side of the map. Hopes this helps. I'm 90% sure this information is correct.
dont give up
# Mar 03 2007 at 2:53 AM Rating: Decent
Just wanted to add i have camped this thing for 2 years and i finaly got the drop.In that time i have had the claim a few time from other ppl there and let me tell you there is nothing better than being whm/blm and getting the claim from a war/thf lol.Anyway just wanted to add if i can do it any one can just keep at it my next target is the emp in the dunes ah well heres to another 2 years lol.
/sigh /fume
# Feb 19 2007 at 2:47 AM Rating: Decent
Camping him with my 22 WAR and a 22 RDM friend of mine. We sit here for two hours, killing Mendicant's when they spawn. I had a feeling he was going to spawn soon, so I was ready for him. Some monk comes in and 20 minutes later Hoo spawns RIGHT ontop of him and he gets claim AND Monster Signa then he bounces.

Worst day of my life. Though I'm grateful that there's no RMT's owning this guy. D: I felt bad when I read the comments on this thing.
Place Holder
# Feb 12 2007 at 3:48 PM Rating: Decent
Does anyone know the spawn pattern or behavior of the Place Holder?
Benediction
# Feb 07 2007 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
does anyone know approximately how much hp he has left when he uses Benediction?
Benediction
# Feb 09 2007 at 8:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I think he uses it randomly. Ive seen him use it at half health, sometimes at 75%.
haha
# Feb 03 2007 at 2:05 AM Rating: Decent
lol Im 1/1 with my lvl 40 smn
no TH.....
# Feb 02 2007 at 1:22 AM Rating: Decent
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This mob will ALWAYS drop one item - eitehr Deodorize, Zealotts Mitts or Monster Signa.

TH 1/2 just offers the chance of having more items as a drop. But Hoo Mjuu can only drop 1 item. So TH is useless on him. Definitely.

And for the record: 16/35 or something like that. Never used any kind of TH.
where the hell'd it go...?
# Jan 22 2007 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Where the hell did Mjuu go? I camped him on Bismarck with a friend for 3 hours the other night and he NEVER showed up. There were only one or two other people there and we were positioned on other ends so I know we didn't miss anyone killing him. He just didn't show up...
Hoo Mjuu the cheap
# Jan 17 2007 at 8:47 AM Rating: Decent
I've camped this guy so much it's insane. I'm 0/42 on drops of the signa. Not including the times I've seen him and not gotten the claim. I don't know about the other servers but on Fairy prices have plummeted. I don't even care about selling the signa anymore. (When I started camping this guy it sold for almost 1mil!) I'll probably keep it as a trophy and use when I'm lvling BRD or BST at some point in the far future.

I've made a comic involving my experience with this guy.



I think it's explains my characters feelings quite nicely!

FYI I've waited up to three hours for his pop. The mendicants are in fact the place holders. They respawn after five minutes and his place of popping is random. I've got camping him down to an art.....so sad.

>< Sway master NM spotter, master NM camper.......not Master NM drop.
Hoo Mjuu the cheap
# Jan 17 2007 at 8:48 AM Rating: Decent
the link didn't work...

here it is


http://sway.awardspace.com/comic2.htm
Hoo Mjuu the cheap
# Feb 09 2007 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
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That's pretty funny, Sway XD.
eractic spawn
# Jan 14 2007 at 10:56 AM Rating: Decent
I recently camped this guy for much longer than 3 hours killing every yag that popped
My Experiences with Hoo Mjuu
# Jan 12 2007 at 9:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I decided to camp Hoo Mjuu after having some difficulty charming some BCNM mobs with my BST. I researched the NM on every forum I could find, and found that some info was good, while others were just bullsh*t. Here are my experiences with Hoo Mjuu the Torrent on Unicorn server.

Spawn Locations: The map on cannotlinkto isn't 100% correct. Once you get up to Hoo Mjuu's plateau, there are 6 spawn locations -- which are all over the plateau. Just take a close look at where the Yag Medicants spawn and you'll see 6 spawn points. The best spot to stand as far as viewing angles seems to be the high rock in the middle of the plateau. You can't miss it, it kinda juts out over the edge. I've gotten most of my claims from seeing him spawn on that rock, and it provides easy access to any direction you need to run to claim.

Placeholders: The Yagado Medicient is the placeholder for Hoo Mjuu. I've tested this theory on the few times I was the only one camping. There are some who say that killing anything but the placeholders will lengthen the spawn time of the NM, but idk, i think thats bullsh*t, but whatever floats your boat. Personally, I don't bother killing the rest of the Yagado just b/c I don't need any of the items they drop, and it distracts from looking for the NM.

Claiming: I've seen almost every job out camping Hoo Mjuu, and I stand firm that /bst is the best way to claim. I've had Hoo Mjuu claimed before these /thf even have time to get their crossbow out. My reasoning for /bst is that /charm is an instant claim, and has a very long range (hmm...longer than provoke, and i belive about the same as the RNG's shadowbind). You do what ya want, but ranged weapons just take too long to claim. Even if i'm out of range with /charm, I can usually get in range to use it before /ra can shoot.

Respawn Time: From what I can tell, normal respawn time 1-2hr, with the longest i've encountered being 2h20m.

Drops: I'm around 1/15 on the Signa. I got the Monster Signa my second claim with /bst on a New Moon (0%). However, I have yet to see the signa drop again, even as /thf.


Kupo!
bleh
# Jan 10 2007 at 11:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Zoned into area, waited about 20 mins. with 4-5 other campers, and he pops RIGHT in the middle of two other campers. I run up to him expecting to see his name go purple, but it didn't! I guess they both weren't paying attention for a second? So I Flash-claimed him in front of the other campers, but he only dropped Zealot's Mitts. >< 0/4 on Sig.
WOW
# Jan 05 2007 at 6:51 AM Rating: Decent
So im out farming beehive chips when i get the idea to go wait for torrent. I wait 15-20 minutes and see him... someone else gets claim. So i stick it out, 2hours on the nose he pops. i get him that time but only scroll droped (cheap *******) so i go get some food and drink and watch some tv while i wait a bit. a hour and a half later i come back and there isn't anyone out there so i kill off the beastmen and next round of pops there he is. i kill him and get the monster signa! so i go to bed with a big smile on my face. after work yesterday i log on and he pops like 3 minutes after im there, same guy as before gets the claim so i wait around again close to 2 hours. right after a third guy logged (leaving me the only one there AGAIN) not 5 minutes later he pops next to me i kill him and GET THE MONSTER SIGNA AGAIN! i almost wet myself!
this now puts me at 3/6 on torrent for getting the staff so idk how some people say they have such bad luck with him >.< anyway has to tell someone about this.
WOW
# Jan 14 2007 at 6:55 PM Rating: Decent
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0/7 with TH/2 each time.
Brother is 1/1 no TH or anything.

Funny how this game works.
um.....
# Dec 28 2006 at 5:52 AM Rating: Decent
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I thought I might share my camping experiences about Hoo Mjuu. From what I noticed there are 2 constant Medicants that spawn every time and his PH is one of the 2. Respawn time on the Medicants is 8 RL minutes roughly or about 3.5 game hours. When people run through the area killing everything this has a possibility of adding more Medicants to the list which makes it a little harder to find the exact PH. As you kill the excess medicants they normally change back into Pipers or the other yags. I'm 0/10 on this guys signa with TH2, he's beginning to become a pain; but I'm not leaving into that Staff takes up the last spot in my Inventory.

Update: 1/11 Now yeah!!! no more camping for me, beat 4 other campers to him and he finally dropped the staff on lightsday with 100% Moon phase. :)
GL camping!

Edited, Dec 28th 2006 9:02pm by MonkeyboyJay
# Dec 13 2006 at 9:39 AM Rating: Decent
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ok, so ive been camping this stupid POS for 2 days, and there is no one else camping him. last night i was there for 3 and a half hours straight, no pop. now im sitting here again, killing everything in sight. ive been sitting here for 3 hours now today and still no pop. did they change his spawn time? by the time he pops if he doesnt drop the monster signa, ill have officially earned more money killing things waiting for him to pop then actually killing him.


He can take up to 3 hours to pop. It's like 52 minutes - 3 hours 8 minutes.

I've come to camp this guy and more then once, I drop down the hole, run up the hallway, and see Hoo standing there and no one else sees him even though they have been standing there for 3+ hours.

So I claim, pull him into hallway and kill him. If I don't get drop I walk out like nothing happened and go AFK for an hour. If I do get drop I leave and don't tell anyone.

This could be what happened to you as well.
Mendicants Everywhere
# Dec 22 2006 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Finally have the Monster Signa =^,^= It's hardly as valuable as when RMT infested the area but makes a fantastic trophy nontheless. But that's really not what I'm here to say. A piece of advice for those of you that don't bring widescan with you like I hadn't (was 37 RDM/THF)... keep an eye on the bottom dwellers behind you. Mendicants will pop down there too. And I'm pretty sure I got Mjuu to pop with one of them.
wtf
# Dec 11 2006 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
ok, so ive been camping this stupid POS for 2 days, and there is no one else camping him. last night i was there for 3 and a half hours straight, no pop. now im sitting here again, killing everything in sight. ive been sitting here for 3 hours now today and still no pop. did they change his spawn time? by the time he pops if he doesnt drop the monster signa, ill have officially earned more money killing things waiting for him to pop then actually killing him.
chance
# Nov 27 2006 at 12:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I was running by for the 2-3 mission, just happened to see this guy pop. I was a little nervous at first wondering if I could take him on, and there was a RDM running for him so I 'voked to get claim. I painted the floor with his brains and walked away with zealot's mitts, no idea at the time about the monster signa.
First Time Camping Hoo
# Nov 26 2006 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I was in Giddeus hunting Yagudo for Yagudo Bead Necklaces (I was planning to begin leveling up Clothcraft) when I remembered Hoo Mjuu and his infamous Monster Signa drop. So, I decided I'd just hunt Yagudo in that general vicinity, and if he popped, I'd try to get a claim. It took me a while to figure out how to get to that plateau where he spawns, but a helpful camper was able to tell me.

I finally got up there, and I noticed that a lot of people were hanging around (at least five or six), so I assumed that Hoo Mjuu was going to pop soon. I didn't know how long it would be, so I decided to begin farming Yagudo Bead Necklaces. I cast some nuke on a Yagudo Piper and begin clubbing it into oblivion, at the exact moment Hoo Mjuu the Torrent popped. I could only watch as he was claimed and taken down by another camper.

I hadn't been there for very long, so I wasn't all that angry or anything. I congratulated the guy who claimed him; however, upon killing Hoo Mjuu, all he got were the Zealot's Mitts. He left, and most of the campers dispersed. I resumed farming the Yagudo Bead Necklaces. I spent most of the time doing that as well as going on to desynthesize the necklaces right then and there; I didn't have enough room in my inventory (stupid me :P) and I didn't think I'd be disrupted.

Anyways, the hour passed quickly, and before I knew it, a bunch of people had gathered to wait for him. I became nervous and stopped farming, and with the rest of them, just stood around. I realized just how intent I was on getting the claim on Hoo, even though that had never been my original intention for coming to Giddeus at all. Every time a Yagudo Mendicant popped, my heart raced.

Hoo Mjuu the Torrent popped beside that platform in the area where he spawns. I saw him pop and start walking forward, and like lightning I was on him, and I got the claim. This was the first time I'd ever gotten the claim on a NM, especially one as notorious as Hoo Mjuu, so I was really happy. The battle itself was a cinch, despite the fact that I was just a lowly Taru BLM/WHM. He never got the chance to use Benediction. I just nuked him with Water II and Stone II until he died.

All he dropped was the mitts, but I wasn't even mad about that; for one, I was just glad to have got the claim, and two, because I needed a pair. The others congratulated me. I continued farming Yagudo Bead Necklaces until I had to leave, but before that happened, a new camper showed up. I made sure to inform how long it had been since Hoo Mjuu had died, so he had a frame of reference.

Yeah, that's my very long-winded story of my first camping of Hoo Mjuu the Torrent. I hope I can get the Monster Signa at some point; it's such a nice weapon for BRD or BST. (I'm more concerned about the latter than the former, to be honest.)
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