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Vana'diel Bestiary: Cauzeriste

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damn prices
Posted: Feb 2nd 2006 2:52pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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in shiva sandy;

wind crystal stack 7k at AH.
and as an example; arrowwood lumber 16 gil at guild but 9k a stack at AH.
this is total bullsh*t.
i just keep farming elementals though it is time-consuming but i cant farm damn lumbers and some guild campers are getting all of them in a very short time and i just dont wanna waste a wind crystals to craft my own lumber. and the worst part is; i need those cheap lumbers to skill up. SE is not helping true players in any way. we need strict limits on thing like this guild vendor.
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damn prices
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First:
I can't get away from wind crystals, and they usually go for less than 1k on Diabolos... farm for them off Bees right outside of Bastok. Or go to La Theine and kill the bees there.

Second:
Camp it yourself? lol... I believe the guild's inventory resests every conquest period. Keep a general idea of the periods and buy them within the first 20 game-days of the new cycle.

Third: If you see an issue of serious exploitation you have 2 options.
A. Join in and chash in.
B. Lower the prices.

It isn't very hard to lower the price of things... I've seen it happen to things that don't deserve to be lowered... have some friends, or your LS if you have one, save up a bunch of the crystals, put 3/4 up and have another member by em from you at a lower price and then throw a whole bunch of them on at once.

With crystals, it takes no skill to farm them and I think most of them aren't farmed on purpose. I just simply don't toss them as I farm bigger things and sell the stacks when I go back. Since they are so common and cost the seller nothing and tossing them is actually a bigger waste of time (because of clicking every time it drops), crystal prices can drop easily.

I would not promote trying to lower the price on certain synths or NM drops. You wouldn't be very sucessful since no one would seel them at lower prices because it does take skill to farm those. But guild-camping and crystal selling is hardly worth the gil that some people try to sell them for.
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RE: damn prices
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I agree with Valgaris. Crafting at the beginning costs you money. Duh. But once you move on you make loads of money that make it all worth it. For example, when you get the lumberjack. Arrowwood logs are dirt cheap, or you can log them. Lets just say they're free. You use 1 crystal and 3 logs and you get 3 lumber, not counting HQ. With 12 crystals you make you make 36 lumber. Now lets do the math...

"wind crystal stack 7k at AH"

7k investment to make 36 lumber
+1k other expenses, just a round number for twine and hatchets

"arrowwood lumber ... 9k a stack at AH."

ok, sell 3 stacks of the lumber for 9k each = 27k
so we learned that we can turn 8k worth of crystals and materials into 27k worth of lumber.
Include HQs and you can make 9 lumber with just 1 crystal! 1 crystal to make nearly an entire stack of lumber worth 9k sounds good to me.

Now. The next time I hear someone complain about lumber prices being too high, remember that within a couple days you can be the one supplying that oh-so-high priced lumber if you stop whining about it and just level the craft.

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RE: damn prices
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LOL! where the hell is arrowwood lumber 9K a stack? I just paid 1K a stack for 9 stacks. At that rate your math is a dead break even. >.<

Good Luck though.
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RE: damn prices
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Edited, Sun Mar 19 21:47:20 2006
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RE: damn prices
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Wow i think you missed the point of FFXI. The purpose was to be a an online game that resembled that of a real world experience. Which means that the PEOPLE that are PLAYING the game are to set the economy. SE is like got to each of the servers. There is nothing illegal for camping a store. Do you wait in line the day after thanksgiving to get the big sale. Well to that person the sale is every day and he apparently gets it every day. and that s why there is a limited number of items that can be bought from the Guild. My advice: Suck it up and make your own lumber and farm your Crystals like every other player has to and quit crying. I had to do the same thing, except i started crafting when i was a low level and couldn't farm elementals. Imagine how many players out there can't farm clusters and have to farm them one crystal at a time. Do you here them complain??? No. Why not find a friend that is a woodworker and would make it for you at a nonimal fee. I mean i know i do that for friends that are starting out in the craft.
Vebent: hey val got a favor to ask you
Valgaris: Whats up?
Vebent: Can you make me some Arrowood lumber. Need to level WoodWorking
Valgaris: NP how much ya need?
Vebent: about 5 stacks.
Valgaris: Well you know the drill give me 3 stacks of crystals and i will make them.
Vebent: Already done
5 minutes and 36hq later
Valgais: Its ready, 5 stacks sent, i am going to sell the remainder.
Vebent: Awesome Thanks Val


And yes i do do that. I am a level 70 Woodworker makeing alot of money and still synth all my lumber to use. Quit being lazy and do it like everyone else or get rich and just buy it.
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RE: damn prices
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WOW i cant believe they charged you lol my friends would just say "Send me the items to make" and they will craft as much as they can and give it to me, you cant be 100% SURE your going to need exactly X amount of stacks of lumber when you are lvling Woodworking and such. Its better to end up with too much then too little supplies, just craft the rest and sell it if its worth it, if its not sell the remaining supplies, its not Rocket Science, but it does take common sense.
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RE: damn prices
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Real world experiences reflect supply and demand. If tons of people are trying to buy something one day, and a business is out of stock, if they're smart, they will stock a lot more next day, and continue to stock more until they have enough to sell to all customers. Not having as much as is requested is just bad business.

Comparing this aspect to reality is kind of silly.

And I don't mind people buying lumber for crafting, but when they buy the lumber then run to the AH to sell it at docked up prices, that's just wrong. And you KNOW people do that. And they're wasting my time with having to make my own lumber. Simply put, guilds just don't stock enough. And characters should have personal limits, so they can't just buy a ton and sell it at the AH. That's not what the guild is designed for.
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hmm
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i dont see what everyone complains about... logs are free if you log em!! screw the guild go get off your butts and log.. then u can use the stuff for crafting or sell it for the BLOATED prices... it all works itself in the end... on hades elm is actually the only real item that gets camped, asides from arrowwood and ash... and that stuff is super common. (btw i i'm lvl 35 woodworking and i make 150-200k a day with lumbarjack what do you make @ 60 that only yeilds you 100k..)
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last time i checked you had to pay for hatchets.
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one thing they could do is that u gotta be signed to that guild to buy from it...

dont think ppl gonna get their mules crafts to 28 or 38 whatever it is (dont remember) just to be able to buy from guild. rite?
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sign up is free and u dont need any skill whatsoever to join :)
to get a CONTRACT u need 40ish skill, but that nets u GP (guild point) and allows for u to buy craft specific clothing/items, like the aprons :P
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frythethief, Posted: Mar 6th 2005 5:34am, Score: Sub-Default, [expand] well now adays its either buy gil off the net or compete for everything. thius game could be changed for the better i'd rather not bore u with my million ideas to make this game easier and less stressful. granted u shouldn't be stressed...its a game but when u got every1 and there damn mom bitching to u about ur gear theres not much u can do about it. maybe its just me or maybe i think its time for a server reset, make all NM drops rare/EX, make normal drops from mobs pay off better from vendors, and...opps there i go with my million ideas oh well...now about the wood if u don't use it don't buy it...go buy gil or sumthin saves alot of time. :-)
get over it!
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get over the fact there are guild campers. i have made peace with them on siren server. i got woodworking to level 60, got lumber jack, and made a mule in sandy and now i make around 50k-100k a DAY. stop BITCHING and make your own lumber god damn you lazy people!
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elm prices
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i never understood this, i know the guild has limited amount if items, but instead of nerfing the logging points (making the elm logs even more rare) why not have the merchant hold an abundance of them. if the merchant had a ton of logs, even if the guild is camped, this would make the logs very common thus the need to log them would be diminished and the gilsellers, price jackers, whatever you want to call em will stop logging there. not like this will happen but i think it would work in dropping outrageous prices.
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hmm.. if they are 3k a stack and 7 a piece then... i could make 2k on each stack! thanks for the idea!

J/K please dont craft blunt objects to beat me with! =P
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Lauan Shield
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I don't believe the guild shop sells Lauan shields, as I was looking for it today to turn in for GP
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RE: Lauan Shield
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I'm not 100% on this, but if i recall there is a shop in San d'Oria(the furniture one in North San d'Oria, i think) that sells Lauan Shield, but i think it only there when San d'Oria is in 1st place. Maybe* 2nd. Hope this helps.
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gothicthug, Posted: Oct 26th 2004 6:10am, Score: Sub-Default, [expand] On Lakshmi I have been fighting a hard fight with JP guild campers. THere is a little fuzznut named Benyi who saps all of the arrowwood lumber, and that is what I need. All I have been making fr the last 20 levels are arrows of some kind. I a mnow a lv 50 Woodworker, and when I complain, people tell me JP don't ahve more time than me, that I am just slow. No way, I have a T3 connection, and I know where the lumber is. What makes me sick is that they keep doing it for one, but then in NA we have all these dorks who think JP are the greatest things ever(you know, the ones who love JP players soooo much that they should move there), and if you say something and one of them hears it, they fly all over you calling you n00b, jealous, stop crying, etc. Then you tell them to shut up, because they obviously don't craft if this doesnt upset them. They ALWAYS say the same thing, "I craft, and my skill is already 63(random high number here)! so stfu n00b! dont get mad because someone found a better way to make money than you!"
Drahx, Posted: Nov 17th 2004 9:27pm, Score: Sub-Default, [expand] I have a solution for you,
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Quote:
but then in NA we have all these dorks who think JP are the greatest things ever


So the japanese are 100% pure evil and aren't worth the light of day because a couple of people camp the wood guild... advantage or not a ton of NA people would do it too.

If you judge an entire culture on people based on the fact that they live closer to the servers and can beat you to some arrowwood then it sounds to me like your the dork... I don't tend to flame people but come on... how can you be this ignorant?
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RE: No kidding
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yea... I tried your way... but somehow I'm also slow too...
so.. I'm always end up with nothing... doh!

right now my woodworking is lv.42

I find it better to buy arrow log from the Vendor than Guild store.

beside @ woodwork lv.21, I think u can make some HQ version of it.. when it's wind day. u know 1 log = 2-4 lumber....
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WTF? There's TONS of Arrowwood Logs in stock, why don't you just buy the logs and synth them yourselves. Jesus, you people are lazy. It took until like 7PM Vana'diel time the other day for Arrowwood Logs to run out, and sometimes they don't run out at all.
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The reason why people don't buy the logs and synth themselves is because you'd still pay ~2000 just to get a stack of wind crystals in the first place. The only other way you could get them is if you farmed for an hour - which could take just as long as waiting for the guild to reopen - or go out and farm some elementals. I camped a wind elemental for about 2 hours, got 4 clusters, and bought the arrowwood logs from a Bastok vendor. I ended up with 5 and a half stacks of lumber from 4 stacks of material (not to mention the satisfaction of HQ2ing 4 of my synths at 38 woodworking)

So the moral of this story is: don't camp the guild, camp the elemental that drops the more common crystals for your guild.

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im willing to start putting some solutions in place
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ok i have a question and a coment

q: why does a maple log cost more than maple lumber??


comment:
i know its a pain the way people..and not just noobs...sell craft materials at ah
but they would stop doing it if no one bought it

i keep seeing peopel bazaar's prices get higher and higher....and all i can think is who stupid enough to buy a lump of copper for 100 gil??

when it sometiems cost 9 gil at the guild

ive thought of a lot of solutions...but it seems like even if S-E flooded the market with craft supplies from the guilds
crystals would become more expensive because everyone would need them more

any idea on how to band together and fix the problem?
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RE: im willing to start putting some solutions in
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Logs are more expensive because you can HQ one log and get more than one piece of lumber.
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Maple Logs cost more than Maple Lumber because people use Maple Logs to synth Maple Sugar from about level 16-21.
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In the desciption it says it opens at 5 and closes at 21. But it Opens at 6 and closes at 21.
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Arrowwood Log 30
Lauan Log 51
Maple Log 87
Ash Log 172
Willow Log 168
Holly Log 559
Yew Log 334
Elm Log 4067
Walnut Log 1485
Chestnut Log 2119
Oak Log 8848
Rosewood Log 6615
Mahogany Log 9075
Ebony Log 9600
Bamboo Stick 123
Arrowwood Lumber 7
Lauan Lumber 68
Maple Lumber 63
Ash Lumber 182
Willow Lumber 120
Holly Lumber 607
Yew Lumber 660
Elm Lumber 2183
Chestnut Lumber 2119
Oak Lumber 4740
Walnut Lumber 1756
Rosewood Lumber 17375
Ancient Lumber 20962
Ash Clogs 228
Workbench 313
Book Holder 5508
Flower Stand 323
Tarutaru Desk 23625
Maple Table 829
Traversiere 26376
Rose Harp 23400
Ash Club 48
Chestnut Club 3427
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Willow Wand 247
Yew Wand 1049
Chestnut Wand 7996
Great Bow 14614
Battle Bow 28944
War Bow 57405
Ash Staff 89
Holly Staff 434
Ash Pole 688
Holly Pole 4568
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Why do you all guys blame people buying items for ridiculous prices at the guild seller and selling it back at AH ?

Why do not you blame Squaresoft for alouding people doing that ?

I sarted woodworking today and went pretty fast at lv10, now I am supposed to craft bullets to get to lv15-16 and I end up racing for a single stack of ash lumbers....which I never get due to lag delay.....

....who's fault is it ?

I don't think I can blame noobs who found this easy way to buy their first armour....I blame S-E for not thinking of something for stopping this to happen.
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Scalping is the single fastest way to piss off crafters - Please do not but the shop out just to resell at highre prices. It will come back to you, like when you want to buy something we have made, and we have jacked the price through the roof.

Arrowwood Lumber is not a toy - It it what a make all your miserable bone and Beetle arrows out of, and if I run short, well..

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Price fluxuations
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This is a guild vendor, so:

1 - Fame does not affect the price of goods they sell
2 - Price varies by the number they have in stock at when they opened that day. If they haven't sold an item for several game days, they are at the minimum price. If they sold out the day before, they are at the maximum price, which is normally twice the minimum price.
3 - Several of those items, (the weapons and furniture mostly) are not really sold by the shop; they are re-sold when somebody sells that item to the shop.
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The prices for some of the items in the store actually change depending on how much is bought the previous day. For example, practically no body buys yew logs. I bought maybe 20 on one day, to convert them into yew lumber. When I first bought the logs, i was getting them for 490 gil per. The following day, they were 699 per, and 724 the day after that. I went and farmed for about 5 days, and when i returned the price was back to 490 gil. I also noticed the price does not change for high demand items, or maybe jsut cheaper items, such as arrowwood lumber. It always sells out every day, but it always sells for 7 gil a piece.
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Arrowwood Lumber - 7
Ash Club - 84
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Ash Lumber - 172
Ash Pole - 371
Ash Staff - 106
Bamboo Stick - 122
Battle Bow - 67824
Book Holder - 5508
Boomerang - 1198
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Elm Pole - 23712
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Great Bow - 25520
Great Club - 40553
Holly Log - 563
Holly Lumber - 607
Holly Pole - 3400
Holly Staff - 914
Lauan Log - 64
Lauan Lumber - 64
Light Crossbow - 336
Mahogany Log - 9075
Mahogany Shield - 9661
Maple Harp - 51
Maple Log - 108
Maple Lumber - 87
Maple Table - 923
Maple Wand - 98
Oak Log - 4740
Oak Lumber - 4740
Oak Table - 93600
Rosewood Log - 6615
Silver Arrow - 28
Spiked Club - 18900
Traversiere - 30240
Walnut Log - 888
War Bow - 68544
Willow Log - 273
Willow Lumber - 120
Willow Wand - 247
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Yew Log - 330
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Anonymous, Posted: Jan 2nd 2004 12:32am, Score: Sub-Default, [expand] This guy sells materials very very cheap to me
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I hate when newbies sap all the materials from guild stores and then sell them at ridiculously inflated prices at the auction house.
It makes base materials for leveling up crafting skills so much more of a stress on a crafters wallet.. i have to run to the woodworkers guild at 5:00 so i have a chance to get 1 stack of arrow wood lumber for 7 gil each, i will never get any more than that though.. it costs 3k a stack at the Auction House, and the amount i run through is so massive i would spend literally hundreds of thousands on that alone if i bought it from the auctrion house.

These materials I AM SURE are meant to be purchased by CRAFTERS, seeing as they are sold in the guild itself.
If you dont craft, please PISS OFF and dont take all the materials to sell at the auction house.
Its bad money, this stuff isnt meant for you to sell, its there for you to USE so you dont blow a hole in your million dollar cheque.
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Imperia, Posted: Oct 8th 2004 4:26pm, Score: Sub-Default, [expand] I'm totally with you, people buy stacks or Arrowwod Lumber at 84g a stack, and sell them back for 3k at the AH. JP have a 4 seconds ping before us, they have plenty of time to buy everything in stock, which sux. The other day, I tried camping the wood guild, and got 3 stacks of Arrowwood Lumber, damn I was lucky, but all the other times, I got a message saying I couldn't do this transaction before I could even buy 'anything'. No wonder JP are so damn rich.
Xorathaa, Posted: Sep 3rd 2004 8:47am, Score: Sub-Default, [expand] I completely agree on this. My crafting is at 19 now and i will be making powerbows soon. Getting elm lumber is waaaaaaay to hard. Every ffing n00b buys it and resells at AH. Currently if any n00b asks me for money i tell them to take a hike

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