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Vana'diel Bestiary: Shiva Prime  

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Updated: Sun Nov 15 05:23:25 2009

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Shiva Prime for Trial Size Trial by Ice

Shiva Prime for Trial by Ice

    • Any and all members of your party participating in this battle must have the Tuning Fork of Ice key item in order to enter the battlefield.

Shiva Prime for Waking the Beast

    • All members of your alliance participating in this battle must have the Rainbow Resonator key item in order to enter the battlefield.

    • Shiva Prime will be assisted by four Ice Elementals that respawn roughly every 15 minutes if they are defeated.

Shiva Prime Special Attacks

  • Axe Kick: Single target physical damage.

  • Double Slap: Single target two-hit physical damage.

  • Rush: Single target five-hit physical damage.

    • The Trial Size Trial by Ice Shiva Prime is incapable of performing this attack.

  • Sleepga: AoE Sleep effect.

    • The Trial Size Trial by Ice Shiva Prime is incapable of performing this attack.

  • Frost Armor: Self target Ice Spikes effect (Effect can be dispelled).

  • Blizzard II: Single target Ice based magic damage.

  • Blizzard IV: Strong single target Ice based magic damage.

    • The Trial Size Trial by Ice Shiva Prime is incapable of performing this attack.

  • Heavenly Strike: Strong single target Ice based magic damage.

    • The Trial Size Trial by Ice Shiva Prime is incapable of performing this attack.

  • Diamond Dust: Strong AoE Ice based magic damage.

    • The Trial Size - Trial by Ice and Trial by Ice Shiva Primes will use this ability once when their HP drops to roughly 50%. The Waking the Beast Shiva Prime is capable of using this ability multiple times regardless of its HP level.

Historical Information

In Hindu mythology, Shiva was one of a triumvirate of gods representing the three aspects of the Hindu faith, alongside Brahma (which represented the creator), Vishnu (which represented the preserver). Shiva himself represented the destroyer, the end of all things.

In all representations of Shiva, he is shown as having a third eye, located in the center of his forehead, with which he is capable of releasing a beam of intense energy, with which he burned Desire to ashes, and blew off the head of his son Ganesha.

In specific instances, Shiva is represented with five faces, each representing one of the five mantras associated with him: Aghora, Isana, Sadyojata, Tatpurusa, and Vamadeva.

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# Oct 17 2008 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Well killed Shiva two days ago cant really say it was a pwn but o well. My self and a friend were skilling up in the boyahda tree and then I asked if he could help me with teleport vazhl quest, needed key and needed to find chest only took maybe 10min to do. After that we figured we were up there so killed Shiva took 15 min. he was 75rdm/nin and I was 65mnk/whm, /whm to help cure myself and paralyna when needed. Also stoneskin blink and to keep barblizzardra on at all times. and then we went to go kill nm(s) for smn AF but I didn't go in in case of a loss I would be able to raise, that wasn't needed, so he solo'd AF quest. anyway thats that good luck.

Edited, Oct 18th 2008 3:33am by Basal
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evil dmg
# Nov 12 2007 at 11:27 PM Rating: Decent
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ok I'm having trouble on this one and I ain't got a clue why. First try w/ me and my 75rdm/blm friend (I'm 75thf/nin w/ just over 1100 hp) we get her down to around 1/2 and she uses diamond dust and one-shots me for 1800 (lightsday) and my rdm friends only takes a few hundred, I consider it a fluke since she had barblizzard, stoneskin and phalanx and after dying she goes to switch to /whm and we try again (lightsday still) again we get her to 1/2 and she two hours, this time I have barblizzara up and yet it hits me for 1600 again one-shotting me and owning us in the end. I have no positive or negative ice gear equipped so I really have no idea why I keep getting one shotted; any insight on this would certainly be appreciated.
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# Jun 12 2007 at 8:22 AM Rating: Decent
Soloed all prime avatars as 75 mnk/nin, with Lv3 invigorate Lv1 Formless Strikes. Counterstance up for shadow recasts and chakra saved for just after their 2hrs just incase it actually does alot of dmg. The highest dmg I took from any of them was inferno 1300+ which left me with 700hp, more than enough to win. If you use formless + hundred fists its even easier.

Shiva is annoying because of the paralysis but still very much doable. If you bring a healer with you its cake.

Just don't do any of them on their strong days :)

Edited, Jun 12th 2007 12:23pm by europeanalliance
Whisper
# Feb 03 2007 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Killed it easy with nin75, pld75, whm75 but pld got poked with 2hr.

btw, you might already know but if you come out of the fight dead, you still get the Whisper.
Shiva owned
# Nov 06 2006 at 8:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Beat her with this pt setup:
75 drg/nin
75 pld/nin
62 whm/blm

It wasn't even a problem. 2hr hit me for 143 and the pld for 0. All in all one easy fight.
Yoo
# Aug 21 2006 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent
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I can take this thing by myself, she was hard, but it was fun, jus a pain cuz u gotta use a lot of recovery items, 3 Searing Lights and this bitch is done =D I used 2 Yag drinks, 2 Hi-Potion+2's and 2 Hi-Ethers....i lost 2 times before beating her, the first time she had one hit left, and she never even used Diamond Dust on me....so idk how much it would take away..?
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# Aug 16 2006 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I foughbt her lastnight i think on darksday, oh well i got my ass kicked so fast taht i am scared to go do the fight again since she is so god damn hard, titan is easy compared to her. I used reraise scroll and by the time i went to kick her ass her hp was backto normal so i did get my ass kicked
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# Jul 20 2006 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I've successfully solo'd Titan and Garuda, although the Titan battle was a tight squeeze.

The key to these battles I've found is having a very high enhancing skill. With that, SMN 2 Hr's do crap for damage. So any of you that have wiped, make sure next time you bring a 70+ RDM/WHM to cast Bar-element spells.

My enhancing skill is 247 and SMN's spells and specials barely touch me. My only problem is doing enough damage before time runs out.
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# Mar 01 2006 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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After fighting Garuda, my friends and I were totally stoked to do another Prime Avatar fight. We all had enough Sandy fame to get the Ice fork, so we zipped on down to Fei'Yin. We were trying to make it by Firesday, but we didn't make it quite in time, so we fought Shiva on Earthsday.

Party set up:

65 NIN/WAR
65 SAM/WAR
66 DRK/WAR
70 WHM/BLM

None of us had fought Shiva before, and not really expecting to do another fight last night, we didn't have any info on her at all. The WHM had some leftover Yagudo drinks from the Garuda fight, but that was about it for items.

Shiva is considerably easier to kill than Garuda. No Whispering Wind and no shadows, which was nice. She has Ice Spikes, but they weren't too bad, other than paralyzing us. The paralyze was only annoying for the NIN tank, but the WHM was good with Paralyna. One thing that Shiva does have: Sleepga. We weren't aware of that. >.<

So midway through the fight, the DRK and I were going to skillchain Guillotine > Tachi: Gekko. Well he did his Guillotine and then Shiva promptly Sleepga'ed us... Needless to say, he pulled hate, WHM wasn't out of Sleepga range, and the DRK died. ; ;

Other than that, the fight was pretty good. I can't remember how much damage Diamond Dust did, but not enough to put us in any danger. With any avatar fight, just remember to keep up the bar-element spell and let the mage know when it's down.

Again, I was with my LS friends. We've been fighting together for a long time so we know how we play and our strengths and skills. Also, three of us know each other IRL and we were in the same room which helped out a lot with communicating.
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# Feb 14 2006 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
This babe was easy to take down, This whm and I went to dual this girl and yeah... piece of cake. Diamond dust did 44 points of damage to me, thats right [44], so if you need a rdm/nin to solo this guy and your in my server, holla at your latin. I gotta do every single fight except for shiva ><

Edited, Tue Feb 14 12:45:47 2006
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Solo?
# Jan 16 2006 at 7:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I just fought this today as 75NIN with another 5 party members and I have to say, she was stupidly easy. She went through runs of missing me 20 times+ in a row. The only problem was the ice spikes paralyze and RDM sub could take care of that.

Her 2hr hit me for 200dmg (/1254hp).. lol... and I managed to recover shadows instantly. I think I'd much rather attempt this solo as 75NIN/37RDM than do the 20SMN fight. I've tried the lv20 fights before and they are really hard as hell and require much luck.
go pld
# Jan 03 2006 at 9:14 AM Rating: Decent
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i was lvl'ing sam one day when i got an invite to do shiva prime. i asked if it was alright for a 61 pld to come. got there, set up was
61pld
60smn
73brd
70rdm
66whm
71blm

first time in we wiped. add effect became too much and we got taken out of the field. we rebuffed and figured we go in, rdm chainspell fire to see if hate would be gone, then if not blm would manafont. so rdm chainspelled, brought the snow queen to 2/3rds then blm unloaded manafont down to 1/8th. we were at +5mp for refresh with brd using carol and ballad II and rdm refresh. at halfway shiva hit diamond dust, smn bit the dust and i took 300 dmg. whm hit benediction and it was smooth sailing from there. didn't lose hate once the entire battle until i got bored and used my own two hour. it is tankable by a 61 pld without tacos as long as the rest of the pt gets it down quick.
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# Dec 30 2005 at 1:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Soloed Shiva Prime last night on Lightningsday on my DRG75/RDM37. With my Barblizzard up, tavnazian tacos, and about 4 yagudo drinks, she was easy. Diamond dust did 150 dmg... yay, killed my wyvern though, thankfully I always keep a spare wyvern rdy ^^. Fight took 14 mins.
Darkness skillchain
# Dec 15 2005 at 5:45 AM Rating: Decent
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fought this as 65SAM. closed a few darkness skillchains with tachi: gekko, then after we won, i looked at the history and shiva had absorbed the damage from the sc's... wish i had noticed that while fighting :P
Max MP gear
# Oct 19 2005 at 6:14 PM Rating: Default
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Seeing as this has sumthing to do with summoner, i have made a list of gear that gives u the most mp! all this gear leaves a level 75 summoner with......244 HP! and 1745 MP!!


Tarutaru SMN/WHM


HP: 704 = 244
MP: 1028 = 1745
30to30 = Astral shield
30to30 = Askelpios (club)
12mp = mantra coin
55to55 = Z+1 (head)
50mp = Republic medal (Neck)
30mp = Zedoma’s earring
25to25 = Astral earring
55to55 =Z+1 (body)
55to55 = Z+1 (hands)
55to55 = Z+1 (legs)
55to55 = Z+1 (feet)
50to50 = Serket ring
50to50 = Vivian ring
32mp = cape
48mp = belt
85mp = food
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# Oct 20 2008 at 8:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
Seeing as this has sumthing to do with summoner, i have made a list of gear that gives u the most mp! all this gear leaves a level 75 summoner with......244 HP! and 1745 MP!!


Tarutaru SMN/WHM


HP: 704 = 244
MP: 1028 = 1745
30to30 = Astral shield
30to30 = Askelpios (club)
12mp = mantra coin
55to55 = Z+1 (head)
50mp = Republic medal (Neck)
30mp = Zedoma’s earring
25to25 = Astral earring
55to55 =Z+1 (body)
55to55 = Z+1 (hands)
55to55 = Z+1 (legs)
55to55 = Z+1 (feet)
50to50 = Serket ring
50to50 = Vivian ring
32mp = cape
48mp = belt
85mp = food


Lmao are you serious? I commend you on taking the time to do this, but I don't really know anyone who'd do this. There is so little HP. As a Summoner, I wouldn't suggest this set-up for most purposes. What if you get hit for 538 damage with Waterga III and die? Useless Summoner. That's what I see when I look at this.
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# Aug 23 2005 at 12:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just Tanked this Ice Harlet as a lv67 PLD, Diamond dust hit me for a whopping 163 damage. Easy fight, no hate loss, and we broke the record. One poster ask why people even bother taking Paladins on these quests? Chainspell-Fire III that's why. We owned her fast and easy. She never took her hate off me.
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What lvl should i fight her
# Jul 18 2005 at 9:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I about 59 rdm and a 58 smn, not sure which is my main yet though. I want to fight a few primes and wrok on getting a moon bauble for fenrir. I wanna know what lvl should u gith the primes? I want it to be a good fight, not just a massacre or a easy fight, like what lvl would it be challenging but possible? And r the bar spells not worth it or r they a life saver when the 2hr comes up?
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# Jul 15 2005 at 5:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok my small story.
War74,Drk71,Drk73,Drg63,Rdm70,Smn67.
Buffed, went in, used poison potions food etc.
Things are going just fine, till the first sleepga by Shiva. Idk how, but we all are sleeping now. Despite the poison potion that is still active. Shiva starts to really hammer me now.
I am down with 24 hp, Ni ready, Smn awaked, heals me, everyone is awake now.
I used 2 hours, and Shiva thinks its time to do the same aswell. Diamond Dust one shotted the Drk and the Drg. Shiva at about 30%. Next is me. Smn uses Ifrit's astral flow, Shiva at about 15% now. When Ifrit is ready to do the second, Shiva uses sleepga again >.<
But guess what our Taru Smn evaded and he finished her with his second AsFl. Hooray!
I ate raise 1 but oh well...

Edited, Fri Jul 15 06:45:51 2005
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# Jun 18 2005 at 2:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I recently fought shiva, and was on the recieving end of Diamond Dust, as many lvl 20 SMNs end up, but what was weird about this time, it hit me for a nice 166 points of damage...and it hit carbuncle for a flat out 0. It didnt miss him cuz he was out of AOE or anything, the log just said 'Carbuncle takes 0 points of damage.' after diamond dust. I will be uploading a screenshot as soon as i can figure out how, anyone have any idea why that would happen, or how to make it happen again maybe? any info anyone has would be very much appreciated.
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# May 31 2005 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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i noticed the 2 recent posts...

"Level: 70 - 70"

this is NOT trial size NM, this is the PRIME battle, my friends. a lvl 20 smn would not stand a chance! lol
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Shiva is easy!
# May 22 2005 at 5:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I must say that all those things about Shiva being strong or even stronger than Ramuh are false! I’m not an expert player and I started playing as summoner just recently, but Shiva is really easy because I killed her in first try and even broke the server record clear time! The strategy is also easy and easy to remember. Get your SMN job to lv 20 and cap your summoning skill (for lv 20 cap is 63). Get as strong equipment as possible, especially those with high defense and VIT boost. Equipment that gives you HP and MP plus aren’t really needed, unless you are a Tarutaru when you could get some HP+ equipment. From items you’ll need: 1 Boiled Crab, 1 Yagudo Drink, 2 Ethers (or Hi-Ether if possible) and 3-5 Hi-Potions. Go in fight on Firesday because on that day Shiva is much weaker then on other days. Before teleporting to Fei’Yin get a high buff (Protect&Shell IV are excellent!). After you enter the battlefield summon carby and use your Boiled Crab and Yagudo Drink. Go close to Shiva (don’t worry if she aggroes you, carby will get high enough hate to take her fast of you) and hit Astral Flow and 1st Searing Light. After the Searing Light is used, use Ether and resummon carby because he could die. After resummon hit 2nd Searing Light and use another Ether and resummon carby. Now Shiva will use 2hr Diamond Dust. Use Hi-Potion and then use 3rd Searing Light. After the 3rd SL Shiva is down (she has about 650 HP not 750). So you see, it’s very easy but could be expensive because of items. I only know that now I have Shiva and new clear time record for Shiva Prime on Remora server is 3:39 held by Rubedo.
Good luck to others!
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Edited, Sun May 22 18:16:49 2005
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RE: Shiva is easy!
# Jul 01 2005 at 2:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Reason why ppl talk about Shiva being difficult is because she will add the paralysis status effect to carby from her ice spikes when he hits her. What happens at this point is that there is a chance that Searing Light will fail when you try to use it due to Carbuncle being paralyzed.

A rare occurance, but a major pain in the ass if it does happen. If it fails, your Bloodpact timer still resets to 1 minute.

By the time I fought Shiva, I had the level 20 battles down to a science. So much in fact that it was one of my cheaper bouts.

Items used for Shiva:
x3 Melon Juice
x1 Hi-Ether

There is a member in my LS who still has not beat her in 5 attempts. So she is easy for some, not so easy for others.
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# Apr 05 2005 at 7:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I beat her earlier today quite easily. First off, i didn't do it on firesday, but if that makes u feel safer go ahead. Here is what I did:

First, this is what u need in ur inventory.

2 yagudo Drinks
3 Ethers
2 Hi-Potions (incase of 2hr)
1 boiled crab

After you have entered the battle eat the boiled crab. run to the "bend" and summon carby. Then pop in a yag drink. Run to shiva BUT STAY OUT OF AGGRO RANGE. Slowly walk up to her pressing ur assault macro until u get to shiva. When carby starts attacking her run up to her, hit ur Astral Flow macro and then Searing light Macro. (Btw, make a searing light and astral flow macro)
Then run back down towards the zone. After carby dies resummon him and he will go after shiva. Pop in an ether (also make a macro for ether) and searing light her again. Run back to the top and when carby dies resummon him again. Pop another ether and when shiva gets to u and use third searing light and she should go down.
if at any time shiva starts to use Diamond Dust hit ur Hi-Potion macro. Then resummon carby.
Otherwise after third searing light she should die. if for some reason she doesn't die after third one, she will be pretty dam close. If so, run back to the bottom until carby kills her or carby dies. When yag drink wears off pop in another and resummon carby. Then let carby melee her to death. There ya go. Hope this helps some of you summoners eager to get her. Have Fun! :D

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Edit: This method works for all mini avatar battles too.

Edited, Wed Apr 6 21:17:03 2005
RE: {Shiva} {Battle}
# Apr 20 2005 at 10:56 PM Rating: Decent
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This was my strategy as well, for all of them...
But going to fight them on thier weakness days is the only way this works...

Cause if you go on say... Lightning day to go fight Shiva, the third 2HR will not kill her fully...
And well... I died...

But yes, this strategy above is very nice... Recomend you try and have a few more Ethers and Potions though, cause Carby can loose hate. And you need to be close range to cast 2HR... and you may not be able to run fast enough... So be sure to have more on hand.
Darn pansy...
# Mar 27 2005 at 8:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I did this today-empowered after beating Ifrit-as the solo battle. I was doing pretty good and got her down to 3/4 health still with an arsenal of yag drinks, hi-potions, and ethers ready for use. All of a sudden after one of my runs, I notice that it's taking her an extremely long time to come down after my lil' blue bugger's name dissappeared. So I go up to visit with Carby close behind, and what do I find?! She's not after me any more, returned to the little center of her platform, and I get up there just in time to see her health go RIGHT BACK UP TO FULL!!!!
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# Mar 21 2005 at 1:40 AM Rating: Decent
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[Red]i got her to half hp today im going to kill her tomarrow i no what i did wrong its time die die shiva ya u heared me[Yellow]keep going to the top
lv 20 solo?
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just one question to ask can u solo this at lv 20 smn/pld? my friend said he did....
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RE: lv 20 solo?
# Apr 19 2005 at 8:43 AM Rating: Good
With the mini-fork battles defense is a high point with MP really a low one since Astral Flow takes it all away.

With that said I would say smn/pld wouldn't be too bad at all for these fights. Best of luck.
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# Feb 28 2005 at 1:18 PM Rating: Default
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Why do people bring pld's along for this ride. Had a ninja tank, Mankind, /wave <thank you> <man><kindness>

Only time he took ANY damage was at the 2 hour. Other than that, shivas regular attacks and enblizzardness is just funny. Pld are not the things to bring on NM runs. Sure decent enough in a party I suppose, but not against nm's.

btw first avatar done, shiva, did it with 5 people quite easily. Less than 3 minutes.
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# Jan 28 2005 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Today, I started 4 parties for avatars, they were all great, everyone listened, everyone lived, everyone got the whisper. That is of course until I decided to do Shiva. The set-up was 63RDM 70RDM 63PLD 65+DRK 61RNG 63BLM. I thought this set-up would be great and we would blow past Shiva like the rest of 'em. We all buff up and enter the Protocrystal. The RDM pulls and mistakingly the RNG goes all out before the DRK lands SA/TA on PLD. Shiva continuously tears through Utsusemi,RNG dies. Then Shiva starts to wander, PLD gets aggro back and we got to experience Shiva's true power. Her regular hits landed on the PLD for about 150 damage. Her En-Blizzard effect hit him for about 250. Diamond Dust (The 2-hour at 1/2 health) hit him for about 700. Blizzard IV hit him for about 450, PLD falls to the ground, and I raise him. That's when all hope was lost. Shiva casts Sleepga on the mages and kills the DRK very quickly. She turns to me and hits me once, my buffs prevented most of it. So she casted Blizzard IV, stripped my buffs and did a Critical Hit and enblizzard for 369+273 damage, there goes me. The RDM and BLM and the weakened PLD safely zone away. After that massacre we mistakingly try again. Of course Shiva once again showed no mercy on our lil' PLD friend, PLD dies. Turns to me, Blizzard IV, misc. attacks, I die/delevel. The rest of the party was doing great until our chat boxes got filled with -
Shiva Prime Readies Diamond Dust.
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Charlagmane takes 896 points of damage.
Regaebala takes 968 points of damage.
Jous takes 847 points of damage.
Xenokai takes 932 points of damage.
Charlagmane was defeated by Shiva Prime.
Regaebala was defeated by Shiva Prime.
Jous was defeated by Shiva Prime.
Xenokai was defeated by Shiva Prime.
Destiney:Well..that was fun!
After that they all got pissed and warped/disbanded, leaving me dead in cloister of Frost. I'm not giving up hope on these avatars yet. I've always wanted to become a SMN and I won't let SEVERAL 1,000 EXP lost stand in my way.
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w00t!! Finally!
# Jan 26 2005 at 8:34 PM Rating: Default
4 posts
I WAS 0/6-7 with her ><; That's because I didn't know what I was doing back then, this time I ALMOST lost again heheh here's my story and some tips. enjoy ^-^ -<3

I was nervous, I was sitting buy the 2 that gave the quest trying to look for a WHM or any mage to buff me, after the wait I finally found someone to help me out, I was a tad jittery wondering if my slightly new strategy would work. ( I tried the 3 searing lights and I always messed it up someway ) I was going to melee with Carby a little then hit with the AF SL combo. After getting buffed with Protect and Shell III I was off to Fei'Yin in the Cloister of Ice. I was nervous and excited as always. before I entered the battle I saw a high level BLM and WHM outside. I was so lucky the WHM gave me Protect IV and Shell IV! =D I thanked her and left to go into the battle. I watched the cutscene for the 8th time (pretty sure it was the 8th)and got excited and determined to finally pwn Shiva At the bottom crystal I used my crab ( USE THE CRAB! It makes a big difference when the avatar is done with carby and comes to get a piece of you ) I ran to the bend and as I was running near the pit I summoned Carby and downed my first Yag drink. I edged closer and closer to the pit where Shiva was waiting for me, I spammed my assault macro as I went. I got a little jumpy when I saw she was coming towards me after casting ice spikes. Then Carby went to it and started to tear into her! I booked it down the battle field and waited for a bit, I saw carby go down and I quickly resummoned by then she was more interested in me than carby so she started to cast Blizzard II I was running then, I tried to see if Carby got the hate but by then the Attack hit me for 22 XD. When carby had her distracted I started my AF by then I was at the bend my first SL went off while she was coming after me and hit for 210, when Carby had the hate I ran away for saftey. I was in the pit trying to bide time by healing I caught a little hate but by then carby was getting on her nerves. I had to quickly take a Yag drink because it wore off and I popped in another Ether, Carby went to work again while Shiva was cutting her way into m, she then started to 2hr ><;; I made sure that I was away from her by then. I had a potion on me while she kept hitting me I was going down to the orange, what a close shave! I nearly paniced! I got near the bottom as she kept hitting me when Carby came out and saved me, I got far enough away to get in another potion. she got ready for another nuke and this time hit me for 52 I got my ether down and this time let my SL off for only 104 ><;; gah! She wasn't about to go down easy without a good fight. when Carby begen to dig into her I made sure to recover, when she started to come after me I recasted Carby again and let her have it. This time I was in trouble because my SL timer wasn't done yet and I had 13 seconds left ><; how lucky... by the time my timer finished my AF wore off!! I thought I was boned for sure. She rebuffed and I had realised that she had about 20-25% left of HP in her...I was getting nervous, maybe this would be a 0/8 but I wasn't going to give in. Carby kept hitting her and got paralyed ><; I got off another Ether ( which was an accident ) I was near the top sweating bullets as she readied another nuke I used 2 potions and she began to Melee me ><;;; Carby bailed me out ( I almost died AGAIN ) when I was no longer her concern I started to run, she kicked Carby as I ran away. Shiva had about 5-10% left in her I didn't know if I was going to make it again I took in my Ether and potion and resummoned and waited. This time Carby was the main focus, she got in another Blizzard and BAM! she came after me and didn't make it, carby made it half way to meet her and she nuked AGAIN! I resummoned one more time and started to run, as I was running my shell wore off and she started her bitch-slap spree then Carby played the hero card and came to my rescue! =3 I was running to the bottom crystal now I thought I was double boned my refresh and Protect wore off...this was the end ><; I popped the very last Yag drink and tried to get a potion in I thought Carby had died and I realised I was out of all my supplies! I waited for her to come down and put me over her knee and give me what I had coming. Then everything stopped! a cutscene showed up and I went nuts! I was so happy after loosing so many times! My favorite avatar is my very first! =D they rewarded me with a warp scroll and the ability to summon the Ice queen and kicked me out of the battlefield I was so happy!!

Now for the tips:
Don't equip things that are +MP and -HP...your MP isn't really going to matter because after the first SL your MP is down to 1 hence your buddy the yag drink.

Try to get a hermit's wand, it's almost like a major staple for avatar fights, when the avatar comes your way and taking chunks out of you, it's best to not have ANY spell interuption, that basically spells out DOOM

Make sure you have these items too:
Yagudo Drink
Hi-Potion
Ether
Boiled/Steamed crab

lol my inve was this
4 Yags
7 Potions (you don't need this many at all! it's just because I mess up so much >< )
4 Ethers (again you don't need this many)
1 Boiled Crab

And you only use the Assault macro ONCE if you resummon and spam it like crazy the avatar will get pissy and come after you and the chance of getting the hate off are slim. When you resummon carby he automatically goes after the avatar anything to save his beloved master =3

And:

If you're nervous it always helps to talk to other SMNs for advice and help. It makes you less nervous to know that their first fights were probably as 0/10 or something.

Everyone screws up so no worries ( I've screwd up countless times before regrouping and resting then thinking about my strategy )

i hope this helps a tiny bit ^^;;; If you want to talk to me I'm on the Asura server, Well shiva is down now it's time to go after Garuda, Ifrit, Titan, and Ramuh (I don't have enough fame for Leviathan yet =P) I'll be happy to try and answer questions ^^;;; that was such a lucky fight!

good luck everyone! toodles! =3

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My time: 11:03 XD
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w00t!! Finally!
# Jan 26 2005 at 8:34 PM Rating: Default
4 posts
I WAS 0/6-7 with her ><; That's because I didn't know what I was doing back then, this time I ALMOST lost again heheh here's my story and some tips. enjoy ^-^ -<3

I was nervous, I was sitting buy the 2 that gave the quest trying to look for a WHM or any mage to buff me, after the wait I finally found someone to help me out, I was a tad jittery wondering if my slightly new strategy would work. ( I tried the 3 searing lights and I always messed it up someway ) I was going to melee with Carby a little then hit with the AF SL combo. After getting buffed with Protect and Shell III I was off to Fei'Yin in the Cloister of Ice. I was nervous and excited as always. before I entered the battle I saw a high level BLM and WHM outside. I was so lucky the WHM gave me Protect IV and Shell IV! =D I thanked her and left to go into the battle. I watched the cutscene for the 8th time (pretty sure it was the 8th)and got excited and determined to finally pwn Shiva At the bottom crystal I used my crab ( USE THE CRAB! It makes a big difference when the avatar is done with carby and comes to get a piece of you ) I ran to the bend and as I was running near the pit I summoned Carby and downed my first Yag drink. I edged closer and closer to the pit where Shiva was waiting for me, I spammed my assault macro as I went. I got a little jumpy when I saw she was coming towards me after casting ice spikes. Then Carby went to it and started to tear into her! I booked it down the battle field and waited for a bit, I saw carby go down and I quickly resummoned by then she was more interested in me than carby so she started to cast Blizzard II I was running then, I tried to see if Carby got the hate but by then the Attack hit me for 22 XD. When carby had her distracted I started my AF by then I was at the bend my first SL went off while she was coming after me and hit for 210, when Carby had the hate I ran away for saftey. I was in the pit trying to bide time by healing I caught a little hate but by then carby was getting on her nerves. I had to quickly take a Yag drink because it wore off and I popped in another Ether, Carby went to work again while Shiva was cutting her way into m, she then started to 2hr ><;; I made sure that I was away from her by then. I had a potion on me while she kept hitting me I was going down to the orange, what a close shave! I nearly paniced! I got near the bottom as she kept hitting me when Carby came out and saved me, I got far enough away to get in another potion. she got ready for another nuke and this time hit me for 52 I got my ether down and this time let my SL off for only 104 ><;; gah! She wasn't about to go down easy without a good fight. when Carby begen to dig into her I made sure to recover, when she started to come after me I recasted Carby again and let her have it. This time I was in trouble because my SL timer wasn't done yet and I had 13 seconds left ><; how lucky... by the time my timer finished my AF wore off!! I thought I was boned for sure. She rebuffed and I had realised that she had about 20-25% left of HP in her...I was getting nervous, maybe this would be a 0/8 but I wasn't going to give in. Carby kept hitting her and got paralyed ><; I got off another Ether ( which was an accident ) I was near the top sweating bullets as she readied another nuke I used 2 potions and she began to Melee me ><;;; Carby bailed me out ( I almost died AGAIN ) when I was no longer her concern I started to run, she kicked Carby as I ran away. Shiva had about 5-10% left in her I didn't know if I was going to make it again I took in my Ether and potion and resummoned and waited. This time Carby was the main focus, she got in another Blizzard and BAM! she came after me and didn't make it, carby made it half way to meet her and she nuked AGAIN! I resummoned one more time and started to run, as I was running my shell wore off and she started her bitch-slap spree then Carby played the hero card and came to my rescue! =3 I was running to the bottom crystal now I thought I was double boned my refresh and Protect wore off...this was the end ><; I popped the very last Yag drink and tried to get a potion in I thought Carby had died and I realised I was out of all my supplies! I waited for her to come down and put me over her knee and give me what I had coming. Then everything stopped! a cutscene showed up and I went nuts! I was so happy after loosing so many times! My favorite avatar is my very first! =D they rewarded me with a warp scroll and the ability to summon the Ice queen and kicked me out of the battlefield I was so happy!!

Now for the tips:
Don't equip things that are +MP and -HP...your MP isn't really going to matter because after the first SL your MP is down to 1 hence your buddy the yag drink.

Try to get a hermit's wand, it's almost like a major staple for avatar fights, when the avatar comes your way and taking chunks out of you, it's best to not have ANY spell interuption, that basically spells out DOOM

Make sure you have these items too:
Yagudo Drink
Hi-Potion
Ether
Boiled/Steamed crab

lol my inve was this
4 Yags
7 Potions (you don't need this many at all! it's just because I mess up so much >< )
4 Ethers (again you don't need this many)
1 Boiled Crab

And you only use the Assault macro ONCE if you resummon and spam it like crazy the avatar will get pissy and come after you and the chance of getting the hate off are slim. When you resummon carby he automatically goes after the avatar anything to save his beloved master =3

And:

If you're nervous it always helps to talk to other SMNs for advice and help. It makes you less nervous to know that their first fights were probably as 0/10 or something.

Everyone screws up so no worries ( I've screwd up countless times before regrouping and resting then thinking about my strategy )

i hope this helps a tiny bit ^^;;; If you want to talk to me I'm on the Asura server, Well shiva is down now it's time to go after Garuda, Ifrit, Titan, and Ramuh (I don't have enough fame for Leviathan yet =P) I'll be happy to try and answer questions ^^;;; that was such a lucky fight!

good luck everyone! toodles! =3

Server record: 3:30
My time: 11:03 XD
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inch inch!!!!
# Jan 20 2005 at 10:36 PM Rating: Default
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i was fighting shiva today as a 19 smn (yes i know everyone says your suppose to fight a 20 but i beat the crap out of titan at this level so i prove you wrong) i am so mad i have the perfect strtegy whitch is the one iu think all us smns use run to middle use items/spells summon carby sick carby on avatar use poison nails run away resummon when nessesary yagudo drink astral flow run repeat until avatr is dead but i did this shiva screwed up my second searing light by the end shiva had like an inch of life left 5 seconds til another searing light i die after avoiding the 2hr this is one evil avatar
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second character (not mule):Tinytaikii~TaruTaru highest 22 blm
I do what i can to help just ask
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inch inch!!!!
# Jan 20 2005 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
21 posts
i was fighting shiva today as a 19 smn (yes i know everyone says your suppose to fight a 20 but i beat the crap out of titan at this level so i prove you wrong) i am so mad i have the perfect strtegy whitch is the one iu think all us smns use run to middle use items/spells summon carby sick carby on avatar use poison nails run away resummon when nessesary yagudo drink astral flow run repeat until avatr is dead but i did this shiva screwed up my second searing light by the end shiva had like an inch of life left 5 seconds til another searing light i die after avoiding the 2hr this is one evil avatar
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second character (not mule):Tinytaikii~TaruTaru highest 22 blm
I do what i can to help just ask
server Ramuh
inch inch!!!!
# Jan 20 2005 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
21 posts
i was fighting shiva today as a 19 smn (yes i know everyone says your suppose to fight a 20 but i beat the crap out of titan at this level so i prove you wrong) i am so mad i have the perfect strtegy whitch is the one iu think all us smns use run to middle use items/spells summon carby sick carby on avatar use poison nails run away resummon when nessesary yagudo drink astral flow run repeat until avatr is dead but i did this shiva screwed up my second searing light by the end shiva had like an inch of life left 5 seconds til another searing light i die after avoiding the 2hr this is one evil avatar
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I do what i can to help just ask
server Ramuh
shiva
# Dec 25 2004 at 2:49 PM Rating: Decent
13 posts
she was very easy.... let me tell u what
happened it was kinda funny
actually.... we started out as a 6
person pt 51whm(me) 50rdm 72blm
73mnk 60thf and 66pld.... well it
turns out the rdm was unable to
start quest....our pt decided to
move on and try with 5 people..
wehn we get there we all entered
and we were waiting for thf..he
forgot to start quest lol.. now
it was down to us 4..we started
the fight and owned shiva so bad

Edited, Sat Dec 25 14:53:52 2004
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Shiva's HP
# Nov 27 2004 at 12:00 AM Rating: Decent
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I know it says above that that Shiva has 750 HP, but is that durning the solo fight, or the lvl 65 party fight?

I'd just like to know how much HP she has at level 20.
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Shiva
# Nov 21 2004 at 11:34 AM Rating: Default
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Defeated the high level Shiva just last night. The party set up was:

66 PLD/WAR
66 WHM/SMN
66 THF/NIN
66 BLM/WHM
65 BLM/WHM
65 RDM/BLM

It was almost disappointing how easy it was. We didn't use any items except for food at the beginning, and didn't use any of our 2hrs, and her 2hr didn't come close to killing anyone. The most it hit someone for was around 500 dmg with Barblizzara up. The other people it hit for 300 or less. Shiva had about 10,000 hps.

And yes you can dispel her ice spikes that she casts on herself, but she has a permanent enblizzard affect that can't be dispelled. She also casts sleepga but we evaded it about 40% of the time.

Hope that helps people get an idea of what level is required to do something like this ^^
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Question
# Nov 21 2004 at 1:36 AM Rating: Decent
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can you do solo fight and then the NM fight also?
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Question!
# Nov 13 2004 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
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A person I know is claiming a 75 rdm/nin can solo the avatars (with the obvious exception of Fenrir) and I want to know if that's true. I fought the primes in a pt (I tagged along as a lowbie 51 :P) and after what happened with Shiva here, I REALLY am questioning whether a rdm/nin can or not, depending on the avatar. PT was:

75nin/war
70drk/thf
65whm/smn
70blm/rdm
59brd/whm (later replaced by 70drg/thf for Ramuh and Titan, we did a whole run)
51rdm/blm (ME! :P)

We did pretty well considering it was the first in our run, but Shiva's AI seems to be above most nms I've heard of. As SOON as her hp hit 1/2, she used Sleepga and our nin's shadows disappeared. Before he could even hit his Utsusemi Ni macro, she used her 2-hr and did 1600+ damage (well barblizzard had JUST worn off, but I hear it still does 800+ without it). Even before that she wiped out his shadows the second before she used a powerful attack.

Thing is, if her AI is like this all the time, I'm wondering how a rdm/nin could do it. The Ice Spikes themselves dealt 200-300 damage to our tank every time he hit her, and rumor is they can't be dispelled. Just wondering, if anyone knows, pls respond. :]
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My story
# Oct 07 2004 at 10:20 PM Rating: Decent
Anyways i leveld my summoner to level 20 today and i only hade enough fame 4 shiva so i decided 2 take her on i stocked up on the items that every1 says to take i couldnet wait till firesday to fiht her so i fought on lightsday i figured at least SL will be stronger so i go into fight run to center circle and cast carby and use yag drink i run up and sic carbyh on shiva then use sl shiva actually got down 2 about half health so i took off runnin and when carby dissapered i recasted and used ether carby engaged shiva and when i went 2 hit my SL shiva used Blizzard 2 and owned carby i kept trien 2 recast but i got interrupted eve with hermits wand and heko obi +1 i repetedly used hi potions but no lucked i died now i gotta wait till 2morrow 2 do it again also which avatar is easiest i wanna raise fame 4 tht 1 and fight it
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Lvl 20 Shiva Battle
# Sep 22 2004 at 9:34 PM Rating: Default
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The minicloister Shiva is actually quite easy, that is assuming you know what you are doing and what you need to beat her. I dont have any advice as to how to beat the lvl 70 Shiva Prime as I have not fought her yet. For the lvl 20 avatar fight, you'll need the following:

Ether X 4
Hi-Ether X 1
Boiled Crab X 1
Yagudo Drink X 1
Protect 3 (2 or 1 is fine also)
Shell 3 (2 or 1 is fine also)

ands thats it.
RE: Lvl 20 Shiva Battle
# Sep 26 2004 at 4:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Alrighty... You're going to just have to try what works for your style. Two Ethers, two Potions, and a Yagudo drink was all I had for every fight, and I managed them all.

The most difficult time I had with Shiva and Leviathan was there two-hours. In order to prevent any further troubles with this, you may want more Potions. After using your first Searing Light, using the www.summoner.info site's strategy, make sure you use one or both of your Potions to keep your health high to survive the two-hour. Besides surviving, the problem I had was the Prime killing Carbuncle right after I casted, therefore basically screwing me. You may want to wait for the Prime to use it and be a safe distance to safely resummon your li'l blue buddy and use your final Searing Lights.

Good luck, Summoners. Feels good after you earn your avatars yourself instead of sitting there while a high-level party kills them for you. Don't give up.
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Two-Hour Troubles.
# Aug 23 2004 at 7:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Alright... I've noticed a lot of you have mumbo-jumboed Shiva being easy in the Prime fight. I figured she would be, too, because I took Ifrit on the second try, Garuda and Titan easily on the first, but Ramuh... Well, we won't talk about Ramuh right now. Besides arguing, can anyone tell me any tough times with Shiva? It's alright to admit things. Only very few will pick on you from the safety of behind their computers, but you'll live.

So, I force myself to enter the realm of the Elvaan again, begrudgingly, thinking 'Shiva's easy. She'll go down faster than Titan or Garuda, right? Otherwise those Elvaan wouldn't be able to beat her' (not much offense intended). Well, I begin with the fight with my ritualistic Yagudo Drink/melon juice, two potions, two ethers and a hi-ether just in case. All goes well until... What's this? Diamond Dust? Crap! There goes one night. So, tomorrow morning, bright and early, I decide to get my revenge. Again, all goes well, thinking that the first Diamond Dust was a fluke, but lo and behold! Diamond Dust, same exact spot. Bastards.

I waited all day, didn't let me go back in. So, I went to classes today, then came back to seek vengeance. I get down to the beginning point with my second Searing Light (using the method on www.summoner.info, mind) and... Yay, more Diamond Dust for me! She'd done it at least twenty seconds earlier than she'd done it before? What gives?

So, apologies if I sound whiny, but the other Primes didn't give me the two-hour troubles. Anyone have similar experiences that can help me out? I'm just not sure what to do if right when I summon or right when I hit Searing Light, she'll use Diamond Dust. Maybe it's revenge for disliking most (I've met a number of good ones, but still) elves...

Edited, Mon Aug 23 22:31:44 2004
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RE: Two-Hour Troubles.
# Sep 05 2004 at 9:33 PM Rating: Decent
19 posts
Rodra I Tried At Least 12 Times So Heres What I Did Ok I started by goin up to the second circle used aquaveil yag drink and had a hermits wand went up there did astreal flow sl ran down recasted carby Searing Light Again Then Went Down Bam Diamond Dust Im Like O sh*t Used Two Hi Potions Recasted Carby And Use SL Bam Dead She Was My First And Rumors Have It Shes Even Harder Then Ramuh Peace Out Guys And Remember bring Two Yad Drinks 5 Hi Potions And 3 Ethers And If U want aim me at animefreak8209 Or Msn Zeldamaster8209@hotmail.com


Edited, Sun Sep 5 22:34:04 2004
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lvl cap
# Aug 09 2004 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
12 posts
i want to start smn and i wanted to know is there a lvl cap for thhe avatar fights?..and if so what is it and can i solo the avatars at that lvl cap?..also, do i have to have smn as my main or sub job in order to get the summoning pact?

Edited, Mon Aug 9 17:30:06 2004
third time
# Jul 20 2004 at 9:14 AM Rating: Decent
32 posts
i just got my summoner to level 20 today's ago. so i figured i would try titan got my but kicked becuse i dident notice that i hade to wate 15 more minuets before i could use my 2 hour. yesterday i fought him agin and i got to close and he agroed and bound me right off the start so i was screwed. Then i decided to go raise my fame in windy and sandy (im from bastok) so i went to windy bought 20 stacks of la thien cabbages and went to selbain and traded them to that guy. that raised my fame in sandy and windy to level 2 so i did the bat wing quest in sandy sence i was there and it rasied my fame to level 3 so i decided to give shiva a try. (soloed her) i did it on earthsday and pouneded her into the ground. prettey good for my third avatar battle hun.

oh and i used searing light on her 3 times doing 210 damage each time so she has at least 630 hp but im going to say that she has around 740 hp from all the attack carbuncle did befor and after searing light

Edited, Tue Jul 20 10:17:12 2004
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BLM
# Jul 20 2004 at 8:56 AM Rating: Decent
8 posts
I think is sucks that everybody does WHM subjob for SMN. Im goin with my BLM and see if I can beat Shiva with that Sub.
=^_^=
# Jun 01 2004 at 1:02 PM Rating: Default
20 posts
i think a whm sub will help with aquaveil and there is a wand that drops from a NM in grotto = 25% introupted down i think that gonna help ill try all the ways to get them.
RE: =^_^=
# Jul 30 2004 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
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XD half of your post are on this thread.. and ya do whm cuz whm has the buffs you need
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# Jun 01 2004 at 1:02 PM Rating: Default
20 posts
i think a whm sub will help with aquaveil and there is a wand that drops from a NM in grotto = 25% introupted down i think that gonna help ill try all the ways to get them.
what sub gonna be the best ?
# Jun 01 2004 at 12:59 PM Rating: Default
20 posts
i just want to know what sub gonna be the best does pld helps ?
and u want to know all the items should i have ?
^^ sorry about all those questions but i really want to try to get some from those.
RE: what sub gonna be the best ?
# Nov 08 2004 at 2:21 PM Rating: Decent
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PLD gives you extra VIT, which means you can take more of a beating - but without Protect and Aquaveil that's not all that helpful.

If you can get somebody to cast Protect 2/3 on you right before the fight, BLM is an option as they get a lot of MP, so you'd have to worry a little bit less about that. If you don't have WHM to 10, then go level it - it's not that hard, hell you could even set up a super lowbie PT and grind through it in a couple hours.

When I get SMN to 20, I'll definitely follow the WHM sub strategy - seems to be very effective.
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# Jun 01 2004 at 12:56 PM Rating: Default
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any one tried to fight them solo ?
if some one tried i just want to know from him was soloing them hard or it wasn't ?
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# Jun 01 2004 at 12:54 PM Rating: Default
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so i think solo them gonna be bad cuz i should fight them again :( and thanks for the informations ^^
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# May 31 2004 at 1:31 PM Rating: Default
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i mean can lvl 20 summoners full party kill* those avatars ?
and if some one soloed them please tell me was that hard ?
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# May 31 2004 at 1:08 PM Rating: Default
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can lvl 20 summoners full party solo them ?
im just wondering please some one answer me and if some one killed them with lvl 20 smn solo please tell me was it hard ?
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# May 31 2004 at 9:44 PM Rating: Decent
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lol, no way is a pt of lvl 20's gonna beat shiva prime. if u want these avatars(besides Fenrir) u can get them by soloing them at lvl 20, but ur not fighting the avatar PRIME. u kill a weaker version and ur only reward for winning is the ability to summon the creature. But b warned, its not easy, u gotta stock up on potions and such because this is like soloing a VT enemy. but if u ever plan to get fenrir when u hit 75 ur gonna have to fight the prime avatars l8r ne way cause u need their "whispers" to enter the battle against fenrir prime.
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# Jul 06 2004 at 11:04 PM Rating: Default
your only fighting a even match enemy
both you and Shiva are capped at lvl 20
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# Nov 08 2004 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Ummm, even if she is capped at 20, consider this - how often have you fought Even Match enemies that whip out their 2 hour and proceed to kick your ass. This of course before they decide to pummel you to the ground and make you eat handfuls of dirt...

And then they step on you... where it hurts most... :P

Yeah, maybe the same level, but that doesn't mean easy. Notorious Monsters (including the Avatar and Avatar Primes) are tough for their level.
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