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Vana'diel Bestiary: Fenrir Prime  

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Found in:Full Moon Fountain
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Updated: Mon Oct 27 18:49:00 2008

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General Information

Fenrir Special Attacks

  • Eclipse Bite: Single target three-hit physical damage.

  • Crescent Fang: Single target physical damage with an additional Paralysis effect.

  • Moonlit Charge: Single target physical damage with an additional Blind effect.

  • Ecliptic Howl: Self target Accuracy and Evasion boosts. (Effects can be dispelled)

    • Amount of Accuracy and Evasion increased is based on the moon phase at the time, with phases nearer to full moon offering more Accuracy, while nearer to new moon offering more Evasion.

  • Ecliptic Growl: Self target Strength, Vitality, Dexterity, Agility, Mind, Intelligence, and Charisma boosts. (Effects can be dispelled).

    • Amount of each given stat is based on the moon phase at the time, with phases nearer to full moon offering more melee vital stats (Str, Dex, etc), while nearer to new moon offering more mage vital stats (Int, Mnd, etc)

  • Lunar Cry: AoE Accuracy and Evasion down effects.

    • Amount of Accuracy and Evasion decreased is based on the moon phase at the time, with phases nearer to full moon increases the level of Accuracy down, while nearer to new moon increases the level of Evasion down.

  • Lunar Roar: AoE Dispel effect. (Will remove up to two beneficial status effects, excluding food effects).

  • Howling Moon: Strong AoE Dark based magic damage. Denoted by the characteristic mob two-hour animation.

    • Fenrir Prime will often utilize Howling Moon once its HP drops to 50% or lower.

Historical Information

In Norse mythology, Fenris (originally spelled Fenrisulfr) was the eldest offspring of the prankster god Loki and the giantess Angrboda. His siblings were the dragon monster Jormungandr (see Jormungand) and Hel, the future ruler of the underworld that would bear the same name.

Despite that his siblings were cast from Asgard, Fenris was spared from a similar fate due to Odin's (see Odin) affinity towards wolves, though due to his rapid growth and increasingly fierce nature, the gods feared him and dared not approach him, save for one. The god of war Tyr, unafraid of the monstrous hound, offered to feed him daily, thus forging an uneasy peace between him and Fenris.

However, even due to this truce, the gods determined that Fenris needed to be bound, so Odin ordered dwarven forgers to create an iron chain, known as Loedingr, though as soon as it was wrapped around Fenris, his strength allowed him to snap the bonds with ease. A second chain, known as Dromi, which possessed twice the tensile strength of Loedingr, was created to bind the wolf again, though, like Loedingr, Dromi was broken just as easily.

The dwarves then made a fine ribbon known as Gleipnir, fashioned from the beard of a woman, the roots of a mountain, the sinews of a bear, the breath of a fish, the spittle of a bird, and the sound of a cat's footstep, and was brought before Fenris so that he could be bound by it again. Sensing some level of deception in being confronted with what appeared to be such a fragile material, Fenris demanded that he would only allow himself to be bound by Gleipnir if one of the gods would place his/her hand in its mouth, so that if the gods did not release him from Gleipnir as they had promised, he would bite off that hand. Knowing that there was no intention for Fenris to be released, the gods were wary of accepting Fenris's demands, until Tyr stepped forward and offered his right hand to the beast. After Fenris realized that he was not going to be released, he soundly clamped down and removed Tyr's hand, then was bound to the great rock Gjoll on the island Lyngvi.

At the time of the Ragnarok (see Ragnarok), Fenris would finally grow powerful enough to shatter Gleipnir and join Jormungandr, Hel, and giants against the battle with the gods, where Fenris would devour Odin. As an act of vengeance, Vidar, one of Odin's sons, killed the monstrous wolf by placing his foot on its lower jaw, then pulled upward on its upper jaw until Fenris was torn in half.

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Fenrir's lv cap
# Nov 17 2012 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
Any one have an update on this mob with the new lv caps
TOO WEAK
# Nov 30 2008 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I just duo'd this with my buddy.
I am taru 75 SCH/RDM
He is 75 RDM/NIN

here is the video ^^ (27meg)
http://home.comcast.net/~syndre/FFXI/drag_duo_fenrir.wmv


good luck!

Edited, Dec 1st 2008 1:41am by syndre
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my fight...
# May 07 2008 at 2:39 AM Rating: Decent
Yay!!! i finally got this after a long while of everyone saying never gonna happen till im like 70.... welll HA! with the help of some friends and shouts here we go.

1/3 tries.

lvl 75 SMN/WHM, 75BLM/WHM, 75 BLM/RDM, 71 SMN/WHM, 75RNG/NIN (weird one in the group ;p), and me (40 SMN/WHM)

first two times died trying to get strategy.

last fight SMNs used Levi/Ramuh combos. BLMs Stun/Bind/Phalanx/and "attack spells" and then i jumped in. I Back up healed and also used Ramuh. He got off 1 Moonlit. Noone 2 houred. was lots of fun. I died about 1 minute before end of battle. 1 other person died.... think it was a BLM... either way. The guys that helped me are the best!!!! THANKIES from Kitsuko on Kujata!!!!
my fight...
# Sep 09 2008 at 10:14 PM Rating: Decent
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finally decided to fight this guy for my lv 1 smn... got a bunch of ppl from link to help, set up was

75RDM/DRK (me)
75RDM/WHM
75SMN/WHM
75PLD/NIN
75NIN/WAR
75BLM/WHM

of course we timed it perfectly to be darksday and full moon when we got there.. so decided to do a dry run for the **** of it.
pld and nin bouncing hate, blm doing low tier nukes and occasional stun, smn dd, both rdm curing and me also stunning when tanks in trouble. made a few mistakes, namely missing stun on fenrir 2hr which took out our pld and messed up everyone elses hp.. after that went down one by one, still got him to 22%

round 2! stunned fenrir first attempt at 2hr plan was to pld 2hr and CS stun at 35% .. but soon as pld is clicking 2hr fenrir one shots him... so im CS stunning at 35% and seems like no1 is doing any dmg at all, then the smn astral flows and blm hits it again taking him down to 1% which fenrir decides to take nin down with him lol.
in the end we won.. although few mistakes and lil unlucky for pld, only the tanks went down, i thought wasnt too hard a fight.
30whm
# Jan 11 2008 at 7:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Got into a party with my 30whm thanks to my friend Mordo on Asura. :D

Killed him the 2nd time.

75smn
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75smn
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RDM/NINx3 trio
# Dec 31 2007 at 4:41 PM Rating: Good
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I just killed Fenrir with three people.

First we tried RDM/WHM BLM/RDM BLM/WHM and lost, so we switched to RDM/NINx3 and won.
Clear time: 29 minutes, 18 seconds. XD
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Got fenrir yesterday
# Sep 01 2007 at 9:35 AM Rating: Decent
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After many hours of trying to get a party for this, we finally got one. We used the chainspell stun at 55% strategy with DDs 2hring and it worked like a charm. Everybody in the party were awesome and we even got the record of 4 minutes on Titan server.

Special thanks goes to:

Athos (75 NIN)
Munashii (75 SAM)
Nightmarekln (75 MNK)
Yutredfield (75 RDM/DRK)
Yunaleska (75 BRD/WHM)

I was 62 SMN/WHM for the fight and was helping heal and did SS when I could.

We had no situations whatsoever and the fight went smoothly, everybody knew what they were doing. 1/1 so far :)


Edited, Sep 1st 2007 12:41pm by PeterFirst
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fenrir makes me sad lol
# Aug 26 2007 at 6:21 PM Rating: Decent
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>< I've tried to kill fenrir 6 times w/ 3 different setups it we cant seemt to beat him.. we have tried

75 rdm/whm <me>
75 pup/thf
75 pld/nin
75 blm/whm
75 war/nin
60 smn/whm

first time failed


second time

75 rdm/whm <me>
75 blm/whm
75 smn/whm
75 pld/nin
75 bst/whm
59 smn/whm

second time and 3rd same setup failed

then last 2 times we tried this setup
75 rdm/whm <me>
75 nin/war
75 whm/blm
75 pld/nin
75 bst/whm
59 smn/whm


im on odin server .. ='[

idk this is really starting to get annoying .. lol
5x70+SMN ftw!
# Aug 12 2007 at 8:40 AM Rating: Good
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Shouting in Whitegate not actually thinking Id get a party for this, so bribed 'em with gil. Works every time.

5x Leviathan, and 5mins 30seconds later he's mine. Not bad considering Ive waited years for him.

Thanks guys.
Help!
# Aug 07 2007 at 8:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Lol, well im 0/4 on this guy and really need him. i have a friend who is lvl 75 smn who says he will help, can any other smn's lvl 70-75 help me out...i am on the bismarck server, and tired of losing to fenrir...

thank you ;0
Unusual Setup
# Jun 19 2007 at 8:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Three people from our LS, including me, decided to go after this guy. After shouting in Whitegate for about 1/2 an hour, we were set. Here was our party:

75 Pld/War (me)
75 Whm/Blm (Meowphttphtt)
75 Whm/Nin
75 Bst/Whm (Fireman)
75 Rng/Nin
75 Rng/Nin

Yes, I know, not a Summoner, Red Mage, Ninja or Bard in sight. But we weren't exactly in the situation to be picky.

Went down, buffed up, and headed in. I made the mistake of gearing mainly for DD, and it cost me. The fight went pretty smoothly, until Fenrir got his 2hr off. Wiped out rng, whm and bst. Soon we were all down and kicked out.

Second fight I had a better idea what to expect. Went full blown "turtle" tank and ate Tacos. I figured the Rangers would do the majority of dmg, so I just had to keep it on me. I noticed I was taking a lot less dmg this time, with the higher Def and Vit lvls, not to mention Sentinel and Defender up. When I saw Fenny get ready to use his 2 Hr, I countered with Shield Bash to stun him. He tried it again, Flat Blade. Believe it or not, fooker did it a 3rd time, and I reduced a lot of the dmg using Rampart. With both White Mages keeping me in the yellow or better, the rangers let loose with their 2 hrs and he went down. The one white mage was especially happy, as she had been 0/10 previously on Fenny. :)

Oh, and on a side note, we did this the hard way, fighting him on Darksday. @.@ But it was one of the most fun mobs I've tanked so far.

Tyreewere
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Sweet
# Jun 01 2007 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Setup was:

WHM63/SMN31 (me)
NIN75/WAR37
NIN75/WAR37
BRD68/WHM34
BLM75/RDM37
MNK75/WAR37

We lost 4 times lol...
But on the fifth time, we struck gold. Our nin and the blm were our saving grace in this fight, we started with only one nin and he couldnt take it, we got another, came back and they shared hate quite nicely..
We got him down to about 60% all the time me spamming RR hairpin to stay alive lol. Then he popped his astral flow on us, thank god we had dark carol on.
I wiped on Howling Moon, but brd raised me up. Everything was looking good untill fenrir ecipse bit the nin, 1 hit him, then quickly killed the other nin. I was about to wet myself. Fenrir was headed straight for the mages, and as soon as he was about 10 feet away i see the blm cast Burst 2 on him, fenrir took about 20% dmg offa that XD. Blm saved our asses and i got fenny ^_^. Totally one of the smexiest fights ive ever been in.
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Setup
# May 06 2007 at 5:33 AM Rating: Decent
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We used this party setup; Pld/Whm, Rdm/Blk, 2X Monk/Nin, Sam/Nin, & Whm/Blk. The Pld used Invincible just before Fenrir 2 hour, the timing was perfect. The Whm used Divine Seal + Curaga IV and saved the 2 hour, and the other used theirs. Got the ez win.
Where was the challenge?
# Apr 25 2007 at 8:21 PM Rating: Good
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Well I finally got a chance to do this fight, and my group was nowhere near ideally setup.

2x MNK/NIN
SAM/THF
WHM/BLM
RDM/BLM
RDM/DRK

The plan was to go in, get him to 75% then everyone would use their 2 hours. So we do as planned, RDM/DRK uses Chainspell and Stun, the two Monks both used Hundred Fists, and the SAM uses his 2 hour. We managed to stun Howling Moon and Fenrir was dead long before our 2 hours wore off. What an easy fight, and the 2 SMN in my LS swore we had no shot at winning with our setup.
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Fenrir
# Apr 20 2007 at 7:51 AM Rating: Decent
I've tried this fight 4 times now and no luck any time. I know im not quite the lvl needed to help in the fight but I was hoping to put a good one together. So far my first party died twice, then we switched out some people and got him to 2hr before we all wiped.

The party setup we had was:

50WHM/SMN (me)
75WHM/BLM
75NIN/WAR
75RDM/DRK
75BLM/WHM
75NIN/WAR

So for future referance, with one person being <Too Weak> this isnt a great setup >.>;; Then again my people may have just sucked.
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# Apr 01 2007 at 2:46 AM Rating: Good
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I was rather depressed with this fight. For weeks I tried organizing groups and there was always something missing. No healer. Not enough summoners. No bard. I finally gave up - I could never get the ideal party together to accompany my drk. One day I was offered an invite to one - and turned down because I have no ninja sub. "A DRK needs it" they said.

Finally, this afternoon, I joined a group. Our lineup was thus:

DRK/THF <-- Me
MNK/NIN
NIN/WAR
WHM/BLM
RDM/WHM
BLM/WHM

All 75 as far as I remember. Our first time in we wiped pretty quickly. Dispel ate ninja's shadows and the whm was trying to recast regen III on the ninja - Fenrir double attacked and messed up the ninja's shadow timing, and with the whm in mid-cast Fenrir just ate him alive. We made a break for it, with the mnk, whm and blm surviving, and decided to try again.

Went off without a hitch, and we broke the record! My only complaint was that I forgot to use souleater + blood weapon, and only used Souleater at the end. At about 50% the monk popped hundred fists and beat Fenrir to a pulp until he turned around and returned the favor, dropping him quickly. I stunned Fenrir's 2-hour and from there we went all out. BLM used manafont and started blasting. The ninja died, and I finished it with a weaponskill before he could devour the BLM. Had I used souleater sooner Fenrir would have already been dead and the ninja would have survived, but we all forget sometimes.

I was extremely pleased. No need for ninja sub, BRD not necessary, no summoner either. Don't listen when people tell you you NEED this or that. Keep your head, play it steady, have a plan and execute it, and you can do it.

-Calea, proud owner of a pact with Fenrir!
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Worth it.
# Mar 30 2007 at 12:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Finially got Fenny today. Joined a pickup group in Whitegate and headed down to the Fountain. First two attempts did not go well. We had a NIN tanking, and he just couldn't survive. Having all your buffs removed and then eating a 1700 Eclipse Bite is harsh. Luckily the NIN was also a PLD. He headed out and changed jobs. First run with a PLD tank we not only won, but took the record at 6 minutes, 9 seconds. Not too bad for having a Melee heavy setup.

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WAR
PLD
RDM
WHM
beat fenrir finally!!!
# Mar 20 2007 at 6:47 AM Rating: Decent
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After me and my girlfriend spent about a week getting fame, organizing parties and defeating all the avatars 2x, we finally got all whispers on a sun. night.
So we decided to go on ahead and fight fenrir w/o any knowledge of what fenrir does or what the preffered party setup was like. Party cosisted of:

66 whm: Lilednollie ( 1 shot )
60ish blm: keliah !!!
75rdm/nin: merlinn (me)
75 brd: malificent (LOVE YA!!)
75 pld: forgot name ... thanks for effort tho!!
75 nin : also forgot name...ty also

GOT WHOMPED!!!!!!!!!!! Not once not 2wice but 3 x we tried and died miserably.

So we decided to give up because malificent was about to delevel. So we merited for a bit.

Next day we werent to concerned about killing fenrir because we needed more buffer. Until one of our LS buddies rdm/nin ( Trapp: king of tarus lol ) said he had duod with another rdm/nin.... bind, nuke strategy. So we asked him to come along and he agreed. Party setup this timewas: 75 rdm/nin (me)
75rdm/ nin (trapp)
75 brd (malificent)
66 whm (lil ed)
60ish blm (keliah)


and whatdo you know... it worked, but after 2nd try ><. WE GOT FENRIR!!!!!!!! After all the hard work and exp loss i just want to say thanks to lil ed, keliah, and trapp for the hard work!! Oh and cant forget mali ... thanks beb!!!

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My 2nd fenrir experience
# Jan 10 2007 at 11:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Took on Fenrir for a friend today. I had went before and won with a pickup party for my earring and I wanted the stone for an evasion setup. this time out setup was:

Nin, Thf(me), Rng(friend), Blm(friend), Whm, Brd

Well going into the fight I had my doubts about the NIN (no offence to him). I suppose I was correct in my assumption though. He lasted about 32 seconds(13% of Fenrir's HP) until he went down and I had to take over tanking. We ended up winning though so it was an enjoyable fight. Rng friend took video (don't ask me about his taste in music but its sort of humorous).

Link to vid:

HERE
please?
# Sep 10 2006 at 11:03 PM Rating: Decent
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ok i actually got into a party going for fenrir as my lvl 60 rdm....we didn't win and no it wasn't my fault....our nin kept dying on second attack. anyway im 65 almost 66 rdm now and i want to try this again. i really wanna start lvling smn but im 20 and i don't wanna lvl it without all the summons. I'm shiva server and really really want to gain this summons. please invite me. /t Vodantes on Shiva please!!
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chille FTW lol
# Aug 15 2006 at 7:43 PM Rating: Decent
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pffft just get chille on the job end of >_o
Please help me out!
# Jul 24 2006 at 10:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I am only a SMN62 and I really need Fenrir.. I've lost parties due to not having Fenrir .. ALOT.. I'm on Remora server and am wondering if i could get any help at all on him.. Please.
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Accuracy food
# Jul 16 2006 at 12:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Well My party beat Fenrir yesturday, on 2nd try, and i just wanted to make a note of something important on 1 of his moves. His Accuracy/Evasion down move Kills. I used attack food instead of Sushi, and at 1st i had about 90% accuracy. Then after Fenrir used the Acc. Down move i had about less then 50% accuracy. So i would STRONGLY advise Sushi instead of Att. food. And also Erase removed the Eva Down effect 1st, so Whms should be ready to erase x2 on melee. GL on Fenrir.
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# Jul 13 2006 at 3:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Just stomped him, lol, he's yet another disappointment in a long line of NM's ppl say are hard that aren't. We just did it on 80+% moon, Lightsday [take advantage of elemental weakness lol], with an unusual setup.

75 WAR/NIN Camtheman (a.k.a. Cameltoe the Mammaltoes)
75 THF/NIN Leelu (Leelu Dallas Multipass!)
75 BLM/WHM Darkshine
75 RDM/WHM Alucardrakex
69 WHM/BLM Misess
75 BRD/WHM Evolnod

Haste+double March, sleep TP before fight, begin fight with Light SC, Thunder MB using Threnody, make sure you Elemental Seal>Slow + Elegy, use all the usual enfeebs on him, keep the hastes up unless you wanna die. No kiting, whoever decided to kite him is a damned fool, lol. If a war can straight tank then a real tank certainly can. We won in 5 mins on our second try, (as for our first try, Cam let shadows drop and took a 800+ dmg Crescent Fangs to the face), was an easy win, but shadows MUST be up during all TP attacks by Fenrir.I could have tanked as PLD73 or NIN72 but we had heard ppl exagerate how strong he is, and we decided to go with WAR so i could BRD for Darkness Carol. Misess (lvl69 taru) geared for darkness+ for Howling Moon, i didnt Soul Voice for Darkness Carol, didnt use +2 either, just regular. We all took about 40-50% max hp damage from it, which was pretty funny considering ppl say they wipe from it, he is weak to light....fight him on lightsday. If you think this fight is hard, don't bother trying to get <sea>, you'll never get it, lol. I'm not trying to sound like a know-it-all, but way too many are 75 that don't know wtf theyre doing nowadays, and this is seriously not a very hard fight. Get 6 ppl who have a clue, get together on lightsday, and get Fenrir for your collection. ^^
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# Jul 12 2006 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent
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He's a toughie but you don't need the SMNx5 party that everyone wants. I went with WHM RDM BRD PLD MNK RNG

The first battle we tried to get the PLD to kite Fenrir around while I (RDM) stuck Gravity on it. It saved some MP but it was hard to Cure the tank, lots of running around, RNG complained that it was hard to hit, couldn't rest. The tank eventually died from being out of Cure range at the wrong time, Gravity didn't stick everytime, and we died just above 50% and he never 2HR'd.

So we sat there for a half hour dead, he dispelled our reraises, while the MNK got his alt character out (WHM75) to give us Raises. After we were all up we decided to take upon another strategy. PLD would straight tank it and RNG would pull hate and Blink tank temporarily when the PLD was getting low on HP. That used more MP but we were able to damage it much quicker. Unfortunately, his 2HR wiped two people and it was over from there.

After 10 minutes of raising (our WHM was only 67 so didn't have R3) we decided to give it another shot. This time, the MNK saved 300% TP for the 2HR and turned on all his filters except the one that would show Fenrir using his 2HR. He Shoulder Tackled and it worked perfectly, stunned. The last 10% of Fenrir's HP bar went pretty slow, we were starting to run out of MP but the melee ended up pulling it off in time.

Fenrir's regular attacks were nothing to the Taru PLD, but Crescent Fang was a doozy. Other than that, it was a solid run once we got strategized.
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Fight Fenrir during Full Moon
# Jul 10 2006 at 4:15 AM Rating: Decent
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We just beat Fenrir. We were an unconventional pickup party.

NIN75
THF75
RDM75
WHM73
WHM70
SMN70

We had no BRD or stun but everyone survived Fenrir's 2-hr. I just Flash to give our tank time for shadows and with four healers, everyone is back in good shape fast. I was amazed how fast Fenrir went down seeing how we were lower on the damage side. Also I noticed Fenrir missed our tank quite often.

It was 98% Full Moon Watersday and SMN used Leviathan. The Full Moon was probably what made the fight easier and we finished in 5 minutes 21 seconds. Good job everyone.

Fenrir used Luncar Roar few times, which removed ALL buffs from everyone. Be prepared for that.

Edited, Jul 10th 2006 at 5:19am EDT by Falkorich
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# Jun 27 2006 at 12:21 AM Rating: Decent
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ok ive done fenny like oh i dunno 28x...

heres what i prefer...

PLD73+
WHM66+
BLMx3 72+
RDM73+

I had a static party for him we dont every week we were PLD BLM BLM WHM RDM (6th was leecher)...

PLD kite in circles not around the rock , kiting around rock u get "unable to see target" when tryin to cure... whm runs with pld dont rest ever just keep rnning by his or her side...--
rdm refresh, bind, gravity and back up cure which is normally not needed..... --blms ...
get a stun order set, stun every time
its up and ur turn ur not stunning abilities ur just stunning to help kite.. also nuke SLOW but not to slow that u run outta time:)----

ok so fenny half life n ow... make sure all stay kinda close for when does 2hr....

Fenny uses 2hr - whm bene - pld invincible -
blms give it every thing u got no turning back dont cure the whm if gets hate nuke like theres no tommorrow!!! if u dont nuke like crazy u lose..

thats pretty much it..

Fenny dead u all win

i have also done as smn- but to be honest i prefer the above setup- fun excitement yes please

so anyhow for all the ones that think the only way is by paying smns... so wrong so many options out there dont waste ya gilz too easy of a fight to pay the 500k + even when i done this as smn i never charged--- oh well selfish people suck!!

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fenrir vs. 5
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i have been working my *** off trying to get the bauble...i have 5 whispers, just ramuh which i'll be getting tonight. and I was wondering what kind of setup i'd need to kill him w/ a leech? could 5 70+ SMN's do it? and myself being the leech >.<, just aerial armour, stoneskin etc. when needed? so,
SMN70-75
SMN70-75
SMN70-75
SMN70-75
SMN70-75
SMN30ish
take him? if they all pulled the old astral flow, yag drink, ether, etc. trick?
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RE: fenrir vs. 5
# Jun 03 2006 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
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I was in a party of SMN70+x4, 70+ THF and a 71 WHM(me) and only 1 SMN took DMG, I cured him and Eclipse bite took a shadow from Aerial Armor. No Astral Flows though. They used Leviathan's 70+ BP. the all used it 2 or 3 times. And the 4 Leviathans tanked easy untill his 2hr wiped all 4, thats when he went for the SMN and me.
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help
# May 07 2006 at 7:18 AM Rating: Decent
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i have won all the avatar fights and won them all :) (not diabloes and fenrir) when i talk to him he wont give me the quest to do the fenrir fight do i have to do something before he gives me the quest?
RE: help
# May 07 2006 at 8:56 AM Rating: Default
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you have to fight all again ... after fights, if you talk to the tarutaru . you'll get an keyitem "whisper.... "
when you have all whispers... talk again to this guy.. he'll give you the quest
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RE: help
# May 15 2006 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
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Right but wrong, do fight all again, but DO NOT TALK TO THE TARU who gave you the fork!! After you beat each prime you gain Key Item : Whisper of Avatar etc

you need a whisper from each avatar, and if you talk to the taru who gives you fork, you are forced to exchange the whisper for a reward and have to fight it again for another whisper...
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Easy fight
# Apr 22 2006 at 12:20 AM Rating: Decent
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I've participated in this fight as SMN 70+ five times in less then a couple weeks now. All five fights were an easy win.

5x SMN all 70+ does extremely well against him.
The 6th person can be anyone of any level. I'd say the most helpful 6th person that isn't a Summoner in this setup has been a bard, at least in my experience so far.

Hope this helps ^^


Edited, Thu May 11 12:33:09 2006
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Fenrir too weak
# Apr 17 2006 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
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hi Rhikko on Remora server here. I seen a shout for Fenrir and me being the type to always help out (especially if i can get a reward) /grin, i sent a reply telling him to get some more high lvl blms. My gf needed fenrir still and i wanted the stone. well he sent me a tell back saying he had 4 blms (including him), me (rdm/any in this case /drk), and my gf (60rdm). she basically just refreshed and hasted blms for recast time aid. We spreaded the blms out and after first blm stunned to claim i 2hr'd stunned him and the blms proceeded to rape him.I think he got one blm down but he had RR on so he just got back up i believe i stunned his 2hr cant remember lol either way we all were buffed pretty well. So if anyone is a lower lvl and needs fenrir u can do it w/ 5 ppl if needed with that set up. the blms may of ran outta mp but if they had manafont would fix that either way fenrir killed with 5 is nice for that extra person that cant be much help. good luck to u all that need it and send me a tell if u need help.
RE: Fenrir too weak
# Apr 17 2006 at 6:49 PM Rating: Decent
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lol....would i have to get everything for it? like the quest...or the fork...? sorry im so clueless ; ;
Hehehehe
# Apr 10 2006 at 12:52 PM Rating: Good
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Hello, Im a 53 smn, though i got this at 52, just thought id make a post here ^^

Firstly quadraxis, who i saw posting a mean *** message, YES YOU CAN GET THIS BEAST AT LEVEL 52! its easy, if your determined enough like i was, make a party to fight all primes and fenrir yourself, just because ur a level 52 smn doesnt mean your of no use whatsoever, afterall there is precious blinking stoneskining hasting and healing to be done when fighting fenrir

Secondly how it worked- im 1/3 on him first time i tried the good old smn and bard method, me 4 smn 70+ and a bard75, didnt go to well as fenrir boxed every1 in and 2 houred, OWCH every1 dies.

Try Number 2- I decided to make up a form to beat him, so i got a PLD/NIN, a NIN/WAR, a BLM/RDM, a BRD/WHM and a WHM/RDM. The plan was, ninja tanks untill Fenrir uses that Horrible 2 hour the paladin gets hate (which he did so Via flash)when the ninja shadowns down, Then after Fenrirs 2 hour pld wud 2 hour and whm Benediction. Apart from the pld didnt 2 hour this fight and whm did not benediction, though bard used Soul Voice be4 2 hour so his was wasted. I died during 2 hour as I anticipated, so the party fled.

Try 3- after fleeing the scene we formed a plan to kik his *** again, and reentered after raising every1. We all went in on form, everything was going beautifull, Blm uses Stun on fenrir and hits right, the nin keeping shadows up and pld maintaining his part in hate and damage. Fenrir begins using his 2 hour, and i run away thinking F*** F*** F****. but by the time im out of range nothings happend. I look on the chat log to see the best Line anyone has ever read in the whole history of fighting fenrir "Fenrir is stunned" .... HE DIDNT USE 2 HOUR! so i ran bak and did my Stoneskin, hastega healing etc. And that lil poochy died.

Not a single penny spent. Don't let people put you off getting fenrir, if your like me near level 52 thinking "Hmmmm im never going to get Fenrir till 70-75" dont think that, start a party, go in and give it your all, dont let jerks hold you back saying "Your an idiot for trying" I didn't and i got Fenrir. end of story.

P.S critisize if you want, I got the poochy I dont care :P



Chainspell Stun owns
# Apr 05 2006 at 1:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Did this last night as

WHM/SMN 75
RDM/DRK 74 (me)
BRD/WHM 73
RNG/NIN 73
NIN/WAR 75
MNK/WAR 75

The BRD was being dual-boxed by the RNG player, so he wasn't doing anything fancy - Haste and Eva+ on the NIN, ballads on the mages, and Soul Voice Dark Carol when it started to get close to 2-hour time.

Only... it didn't come to that. The first 45% of Fenrir's hp went by without incident; the MNK would occasionally pull hate off the NIN, but Fenrir would slap her around a bit and the NIN would recover hate without trouble. At 55%, the BRD started Soul Voice Dark Carol, and I revved up Chainspell Stun.

I was surprised at how massively effective Chainspell Stun was on Fenrir. Not only did it interrupt his 2-hour (Fenrir didn't try again), but it kept him from doing pretty much ANYTHING besides a rare melee attack. With the MNK using Hundred Fists and the RNG pounding away, Fenrir pretty just stood there gaping like a hick and died before my Chainspell even wore off.

The way I see it, if you can get yourself a RDM/DRK, two or three solid DD's, and the means to keep them all alive through the first half of Fenrir then you're set. It'll be smooth sailing once the Stuns start...
Fenrir complete
# Mar 25 2006 at 7:11 AM Rating: Decent
I just achieved my goal gaining the use of Fenrir. Thanks to the help of 4SMN 2WAR it was and awesome fight people i tell you Fenrir hits really hard. 4 Titans beat him the wars were there for provoke support only when titan died then we use provoke on Fenrir to keep smn casting Titan. All in All Fenrir is one tough Wolf. oh My Character name is Roaradam. Have fun you will enjoy this battle. Thank you Guys For the help.

Edited, Sat Mar 25 06:10:13 2006
Fenrir Prime Fight
# Mar 23 2006 at 5:58 PM Rating: Decent
My Characters name is Roaradam level 71 Warrior 35 Ninja,my world of play is Gilameshi. What I need is help fighting Fenrir. Please assist. thank you. Please message me with time and date when ready to assist. I really want to play with the Blue Wolf so rapid response is not necessary but would be appreciated greatly.thank you very much. If i can ever be of assistance please message me.

Edited, Thu Mar 23 17:00:17 2006
#Kofdizz, Posted: Feb 27 2006 at 9:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Beat him tonight, setup was:
hope this helps
# Feb 25 2006 at 5:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Just beat this tonight on Asura.

Went with:
74 RDM/DRK (me)
75 BLM/RDM Silvanoshei
75 WHM/BLM Lesya
75 NIN/WAR Zoldick
75 SAM/THF Katsudon
70 THF/NIN Myukun

We went in on Lightsday.
First run nin went down early and we wiped. Luckily whm had gotten reraise back up and we had enough time for one more run before darksday.

Once we were all healed and buffed up we entered. We knew if nin went down again we were done. So, we decided that if nin took a hit that whm would flash while I spamed cures. Every one did their job great with the sam and thf TA onto nin for added hate. The blm and myself traded off doing stuns about every 20 secs. Dispelga sucked. Took out everything but food. Don't think we bothered to rebuff except maybe to haste the nin and a refresh for myself and whm. When he finally 2hr'd everyone dropped to 5-10% whm quickly ran in and used Benediction (awesome job). If nin had gone down thf was gonna SA and Perfect Dodge but it wasnt necessary. At this point whm was kinda low on mp so sam and blm 2hr and easily finished him. Aside from the first run we had no deaths and broke the record with 4:11.

We then escaped out and ran back to Windy to get our new puppys. =P

Congrats and thanks again to my pt members and best of luck to anyone that still needs fenrir. I hope I've helped.

Edited, Sat Feb 25 04:22:13 2006
Easy Defeat
# Feb 20 2006 at 8:34 PM Rating: Decent
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A really easy and effective way, wich was the one that I used, its to get 5 summoners, lvl 70+ I recommend, to summon either Leviathan, Fenrir or Titan against him for an easy and quick battle. Just make sure they have Yagudo Drinks, Hi-Ethers and the Moon Bauble. Hope this was helpfull ^^
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# Jan 30 2006 at 1:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Killed him lil bit ago.

Setup was:

Nin/War (me)
Rng/Nin
Pld/Nin
Brd/Whm
Blm/Whm
Whm/Smn

We got him down to half HP fine but the Whm was a taru and even with Soul Voice Dark Carol on, he died to Howling Moon so he couldn't cure me. We got him down to 24% before I died then Rng used Barrage, EES, Sidewider... died, Pld used Invincible, Vorpal Blade while Blm casted Thundaga III and then Aeroga III for the win ^_^
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Need to beat FENRIR!!
# Jan 28 2006 at 9:05 PM Rating: Decent
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If anyone has any sugestions on how to defeat fenrir plz let me know 67 whm/smn <leviathan>
fenrir
# Jan 15 2006 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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got mine yesterday ^^
75nin/war
75war/nin
75thf/nin
70whm/smn
75brd/whm
62smn/whm (me)
my job was to spam earthen ward and backup heal.
The fight went well until 2hr. The ninja died. the war started tanking, then he died. The thf then started tanking, and he did amazingly well. He was able to keep shadows up the whole time. I 2hrd, did ****** dmg, then just main healed. We won with only mages, brd and thf alive. Was awesome! I love my new puppy!
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Fenrir!
# Jan 11 2006 at 11:01 PM Rating: Decent
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PT Setup:
75Whm/Blm(my cousin, shes a awesome whm :D)
75Nin/War
75Mnk/Nin
75Sam/Thf
74Rdm/Drk(me)
71Blm/Whm

Yea so i got a fenrir a couple days ago. It wasnt really hard at all even thought im 1/4 on it XD, only cause the other times i did it the whm never used benediction or would always run out of mp before fenrir 2hr. But out strat was jus for nin to tank and me and blm would take turns stunning, if nin got hit. basically our whm jus used benediction right after fenrir did his 2hr ( which we all lived, even the taru blm :p ). me and blm couldnt stun its 2hr, and our nin died shortly after cause he couldnt recast Ni. After our nin died our mnk 2hr so did sam and luckly they survived with less than 50hp and we killed FENRIR!

Done fenrir
# Jan 08 2006 at 7:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Party setup -
BRD68 (me)
NIN75
MNK75
RDM75
BLM75
WHM72

Battle 1 (Windday) Our First run failed as the ninja died from Eclipse Bite then fenrir 2houred the rest of the party White mage survived and so did i battle was the same as the second battle but without the 2 hours and fenrir killed a few people on the exit portal.

Battle 2 (Iceday) The Ninja tanked it while i kept double march on him and the Monk. The Monk provoked it when Ninja was low on health and needed to recast. At around 60% health i 2houred and cast Dark Carol. Kept the mages with Ballad throughout too while they cured/erased whatever was needed. The 2hour didnt do much damage to the party but Fenrir decided to go Dispelgaga on the party. Black Mage 2hours and cures the party members and Then Fenrir Eclipse bited the Ninja then killed him at around 5% health, the Monk died shortly after then the White Mage uses Benediction and the Black Mage casted something then died on him the White Mage left the field to prepare to raise the party the Red mage got the hate and ran the opposite direction while i cast Banish II since Fenrir was at around 1% then Fenrir dies! Surprised everyone in killing Fenrir but i felt bad for the White Mage as he didnt get Fenrir for doing the battle.

Surviving Members - BRD (Survived), RDM (Survived), WHM (left battlefield)
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Killed Fenrir With Banish ^^
fenrir
# Dec 31 2005 at 5:23 PM Rating: Default
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I have just acomplished what most people dream of.. my lvl 60 thf blithe on cerberus server has gotten fenrir (yes thf is my highest job and i was hittin fenrir for 0 and SA for 100 lol) i made a pty, took me hours and hours but i got 2 extremely skilled 75 smns that were doing spinning dive for around 900+ damage and 2 72 smns, also a great bard armondo... his dark carol was so powerful that my 60 thf still had 210 hp left after fenrirs 2hr.. and my dark resist isnt that great, also.. ty shefki! best smn on cerberus server!!! Im enjoying fenrir alot now im 1/2 on him.. btw i bought pro ethers for each smn and gave 50k for fun altho they didnt even care i was 60 rly ^^ guess i lwas lucky huh? My ls told me wait until ur at least 70.. i said no thx imma lvl my 33 smn with fenrir XD I LOVE THIS GAME lol ..OH we broke record too.. 4 minutes 20 seconds i think
We beat Fenrir!
# Dec 10 2005 at 10:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey, Hikatteiru from Kujata.

I just did Fenrir with a normal pt, we killed him after he killed two of our people. He killed the blm first, but he used reraised before and raised himself. Then he killed the rng during the end, but we got him though.

Pt Setup:
68 RDM - Me
75 PLD
75 WHM
75 BLM
75 RNG
73 BLM
Help Me out
# Nov 04 2005 at 8:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi Its me Wokki From Leviathan!

I tried today to Kill Fenrir. . 0/2 now. ; ;
Party Set up: WHM SMN BLM RDM SAM NIN.
Lil Tip:
Go with 2 nin and 1 brd.
Fenrir hits so fast and hard that pld could tank it but will loose allot of hp fast. And his 2hr is very hard so youll need a brd for dark resistance to survive the astral flow.

Wokki 66WHM/33BLM
Server: Leviathan.
If anyone wants to Help me with it please send me a tell. i really want Fenrir.
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Any1 wanna Help Me beat this Dog on CRACK!!!
# Oct 19 2005 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
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I am on the sever of Kujata(Greatest ever) and i need some ppl 2 help me get my other tuning forks and kill him (I turned in the first set of Whispers 4 primes 2 summon) send me a /Tell if interested
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HELP!!!
# Oct 19 2005 at 8:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Max MP gear
# Oct 19 2005 at 6:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Seeing as this has sumthing to do with summoner, i have made a list of gear that gives u the most mp! all this gear leaves a level 75 summoner with......244 HP! and 1745 MP!!


Tarutaru SMN/WHM


HP: 704 = 244
MP: 1028 = 1745
30to30 = Astral shield
30to30 = Askelpios (club)
12mp = mantra coin
55to55 = Z+1 (head)
50mp = Republic medal (Neck)
30mp = Zedoma’s earring
25to25 = Astral earring
55to55 =Z+1 (body)
55to55 = Z+1 (hands)
55to55 = Z+1 (legs)
55to55 = Z+1 (feet)
50to50 = Serket ring
50to50 = Vivian ring
32mp = cape
48mp = belt
85mp = food
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Afraid?
# Oct 17 2005 at 12:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey there...

Okay I suppose this is one part rant and one part cry for help.

I just spent ALL night trying to put together a party for this on Asura. WHY are people so terrified by this guy?

I'm currently a level 60 Summoner (yes, okay it's low-ish for Fenrir battle) and badly want this doggy! Who wouldn't!? I KNOW this can be accomplished by a party of 70+'s and EVEN with me a level 60 *SHOCK TEN WHOLE LEVELS DOWN OMG* there with you.

It would be a huge waste for me to wait to fight this guy till I'm 75 Summoner.. then what the ****, I've wasted all those levels without him -_-

If anyone is out there on Asura who isnt scared to death by the fact that there's a single lvl 60 Summoner in their party, who can still blow Fenrir away with his 2-hour... look me up.

Thank you. And to everyone who backed out/was too afraid to attempt this, please grow some _____. Thank you ^^



Edit: I just wanted to clear up my rudeness above. It was simply because I had so many people /tell with insulting messages saying my level sucked or ditching the party which in the end resulted in me wasting 6 hours of my life. Nothing personal to anyone here that is simply cautious or wary of fighting Fenrir Prime. Thank you.

Edited, Mon Oct 17 02:20:27 2005
RE: Afraid?
# Feb 17 2006 at 4:15 AM Rating: Decent
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well first of all fenrir is lvl 80 so your ZOMG 10 LEVELS UNDER just makes you look like a ******. theres a reason why the minimum is 70+ because hes one tough biotch. and your 2hr wouldnt gaurantee a victory...what would a lvl 60 astral flow do to a mob thats lvl 80...hmmm not to dam much. if you want him so bad wait till lvl 70 then go get him when ur good and able not when u get agro you die
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Lost but much learned
# Oct 09 2005 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
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on the 4-5 times i've tried this, this is the probs we've had which have caused us to wipe
Nin tank and dispelga move, got the nin smashed, on my first run (which was a wipe at that point) and the 2 runs after (which wasn't wipes as it was with another party and i was prepared for it)

From this, when dispelga lands, drop flash on the mob, MAKE SURE YOU GET UP RR again, it's gonna hurt if you all wipe and nobody to raise!

Then next issue is the 2hr, we didn't have a bard, this hurts, it took all the party, (except me who knew to run like **** and told the party this) down to very low health. Try not to get anybody to drop any big damaging moves on the mob when it's around 65% or so, if you drop it under 50% too quick, don't give peeps time to move out the way. Hack it down to 55% or so, let somebody kite it over to the corner and take it down solo for a short time, or just get it close and run like ****. We learned after we wiped from that 2-3 times to get our monk to kite it mnk/nin, unfortunatly it would have worked, but mnk got hit hard, mnk ran to mages, we ran to him, just missed healing him.

After you get past the 2hr point, the hardest part i'd say, don't get overconfident, dispelga caught us offguard and wiped us :(. we had it to around 15% or so, which really sucked, soo close, but not there.

But I've learnt alot, damaging him isn't a issue, with some good melee he'll go down quick, but i want to try this with a pld/nin, mnk/nin and thf possibly, with a brd hopefully, but if not, 2whm and a rdm prob.

When i nin looses shadows, it really hurts the nin, as somebody posted here, just be careful, flash is a good bet, and a backup to take the hate, i think the mnk duo`d tanking with the nin a bit at some points, which really helped.
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