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Vana'diel Bestiary: Rose Garden  

Family:Morbol
Found in:Yuhtunga Jungle
Level:0
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  • Notorious Monster
  • Based on Earth
  • Weak against Fire
  • Strong against Water
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Updated: Fri Jun 18 21:30:53 2010

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# Feb 14 2012 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Voluptuous Vilma Does exsist! There are youtube videos on her, pictures all over the net, I mean my gosh people is it so hard to believe that Rose turns into Vilma, same way Noble Mold turns from a normal mushroom, it's just in this case, its 3 phases, Overgrown Rose - Rose - Vilma. And makes perfect sense for the drop ratio to increase as u wait for the Morbol to change over time... its starts as an overgrown, so obviously get ready for it to keep growing i guess.... But Yea Alakhazam, Please update this site and give Voluptuous Vilma the respect and decency by makeing a page for her, which does not exsist on this site, come on alakhazam, other sites are beating your info now -_- /cry....
cross fingers
# Jun 07 2010 at 2:57 AM Rating: Decent
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camping RG right now, been 10 hrs since OGR ToD. /cross fingers.


1/1 leaping lizzy
1/1 valkurm emperor
1/1 argus
0/1 leach king

lets see if i cant keep it going.

update, just killed rose garden after 11 hrs of camping and no drop.

Edited, Jun 7th 2010 6:06am by jerico313
dang no drop
# Mar 14 2009 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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just saw her for the first time ever on IFRIT on MARCH 14th as a 68rdm(Wingnut), going to jungles2 for a levelsync PT. 75 pld in PT came with me and we pwnd her (after I had to Kite her about 10min while he went to change to pld lol). no drops at all.

oh well, was worth a shot.
/sigh
# Nov 09 2008 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Cant even get to see this thing ><; someone allways kills the Malbro
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# Dec 29 2008 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
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seen it on ws.. I was only person in entire area, including kazham. Killed it no drop. 10 hours later, kill.. nothing.

another 10 hours later... kill no drop. I cant confirm its 10 hours, i just came back each time and it was already up.

But... for the record to change everyones predictions. I afked it just before work this morning. killed within the hour after i left. 2 conquest tallys later.... it was killed again in my log. then i got home after work, did some stuff around the house and counted all the tallys...10 since second kill. sat 30 mins...went for a smoke came back and it was up.

Thats 3 within a 12 hour frame...one being only 2 hours (conqeust tallys)apart.

I took screen shot of the kills and tallys in log. I post them later when i get around to uploading them to photobucket.
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Vilma
# Mar 05 2008 at 1:31 AM Rating: Good
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=28jct9w&s=3

Vilma does exist. Its not lies, And this is not a fake.
Ive personally seen it pop, and can confirm the ring is not a 100% drop i would say it's more of a 50% drop rate on vilma. Which is sensational next to Rose garden's 7% drop rate on the ring.
What i suggest new campers to this thing do is talk to your fellow campers, ask them "Let's leave Rose garden for 21-24 hours, Only claim garden if someone else turns up/Logs in/Jumps off a choco"
That worked perfect for me.
1/2 Vilma
0/9 Rose garden
Go figure.

More info: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Voluptuous_Vilma
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Finally! :D
# Feb 14 2008 at 12:30 PM Rating: Decent
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1/3 after 3 years of camping off and on. dropped when I killed SAM/THF. Also, gave ToD do a friend and he got drop the next pop which was 10 hours and 20 minutes later. So that was 2 rings in a row that dropped. Second kill was THF75.

To Glamrist: Although it would be nice to see VV pop the thought of leaving Rose Garden alone is completely ridiculous. You think theres a chance that people who want this ring would sit there together staring at a mob that has a chance to drop the ring they came for? Its a nice thought but unfortunately, this is still earth...
Also, just because something exists in the DAT files does not mean it exists in game ; ; sorry.

If someone, somewhere has actually seen this NM (VV) a screenshot would be nice although proving VV exists wouldnt stop others from claiming the NQ NM.

Lastly, I have personally seen RG pop and I want to add for any future campers that your cursor will get retargetted. The mobs basically despawn and spawn at the same time, so while one is fading in the other is fading out. When you tie this to another rumor about Rose Garden despawning if not claimed for 1 hour, it suggests the possibility that if you come back to your computer and you have nothing targetted, its possible the NM popped and was not claimed for 1 hour ; ;
1/8
# Feb 06 2008 at 5:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Finally got this awesome ring... 1/8.

For those of you who are getting frustrated with this NM, don't despair! Just keep at it and sooner or later you HAVE to get it. When I finally got this ring, there was another JP camper there who is 0/73... so just be thankful you aren't him. :o
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RG and Vol. Vilma
# Aug 26 2007 at 9:58 PM Rating: Decent
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OK Let's first start by saying this... Voluptuous Vilma does exist!!!! There is no mistaking this, I promise. As most of you know it takes 9-12 hours for Rose Garden to spawn. The same rule applies about agroing and claiming overgrown rose to spawn Rose Garden. So if someone agros or claims Rose Garden, then V.Vilma timer is reset. It takes 21-24 hours after Rose Garden spawns to respawn into V.Vilma, without anyone agroing or claiming Rose Garden.

HERE IS THE PROBLEM and REASON NO ONE HAS SEEN IT ON MOST SERVERS. EVERYONE claims rose garden as soon as they see it... hoping for a ring that is very low drop rate.... congrats to you all who are 1/1 cause im 0/4 with TH4 anyway.... V.Vilma is said to have a 100% drop rate of the Vilma's ring. So if ppl learn some patience on our servers then we will see V.Vilma..... good luck and fun camping!!!!

EDIT:

I just used a hex editor to view my DAT's, ROM2\13\99.dat, Voluptuous Vilma does exist!!! Here is my screenshot and i used paint to circle the names, other than that everything is original in my screenshot!!!

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/bmc45069/V.Vilmaexists.jpg

Edited, Aug 27th 2007 3:12:47am by Glamrist

Edited, Aug 27th 2007 9:56pm by Glamrist

Edited, Nov 19th 2007 4:21am by Glamrist
VV time and TH
# Jul 12 2007 at 2:06 PM Rating: Decent
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They need to add Voluptuous Vilma as a NM on here.

Firstly id like to know if anyone has has any info at all regarding the drop rate of Vilma's Ring with TH. I personally am 0/4 atm with TH3 so i have my doubts on its effects but am managing to kill it every 9-12 so i hope it wont be too long till it drops.

Secondly, not that i would expect many ppl with info on this bbbuutt does anyone have any idea on the Rose Garden to Voluptuous Vilma time? Is it possibley the same 9-12hrs or would it be alot longer and reason for its very rare sightings?

Anyways, thx in advance for any info left and gl to anyway camping this also, it will be worth it in the end ^^b

Edited, Jul 13th 2007 1:33pm by EspioTheDragoon
I feel like an asshat
# Jun 27 2007 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Yesterday I was in Yuhtunga Jungle helping some friends and after I was done I go wandering around. I havent been there in over a year so I want to go exploring.

I see a Overgrown Rose that checked EP so I rest mp cure myself to full rest again (drg/pld) and go attack it just to see if I can take it. Halfway in to the fight I get checked by four people and some one tells me I messed him up. I replied that I was sorry if took his kill and I didnt mean to. I didnt see anyone in the area at all.

By now I have the thing almost dead and the guy that told me that I messed him up tells me that if it isnt killed for 8hr a NM spawns witch sucks because if I stop I die and I cant warp or anything. I respond that I had no idea and say that Im sorry. It is dead now so I tell the others that arrived that I was sorry and I didnt know.

One poor guy told me he had been waiting for 9.5 hr. :(

What is the spawn time for this? I was told 8 then one guy said he had been waiting for 9.5.

I would not have attacked it if one of the campers told me not to. Even if they just said "Dont attack the Rose" I would have stopped to ask why.

To all the people that I messed up I apologize I really had no idea. I will never do this again because it must suck to wait that long and have some one mess it up.
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It seems we have idiot person on every server
# May 31 2007 at 2:36 PM Rating: Decent
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On Sylph as well. Today I've camp it for 9.5hr+ but the guy named Mikebarnes came with his summoner and kill it. I was pissed :( and what I can do is /blist him.
I don't mind if anyone kill Overgrown Rose when nobody there but please don't kill if there somebody camping it.
ok.
# Mar 25 2007 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
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2/5 <.< i think drop rate is a bit higher than 7%.

Edited, Apr 19th 2008 11:30pm by banditxero
unfair
# Mar 13 2007 at 12:32 AM Rating: Good
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I don't think there are adequate words to express how unfair this NM's spawn conditions are amongst the amount of pure retards that exist on my server. A couple months ago when I decided I wanted this ring, we would have some random @#%^ come up to the camp and laugh at everyone and kill the PH. She did this almost every time I was at camp at some point or another.

I got so frustrated for wasting hours of my time sitting there, when I could've been doing something else, just to have this person show up and destroy it. I was so mad, that I just tried to forget the NM. It seems that person forgot about it, too, because for the past few days I've been camping, they have not been around to kill the PH and /laugh at me.

The reason I sit there for hours, locked-on, with my log up, is because there would be no other way for me to know if the PH was messed with thus messing up the ToD, which is why just going by the ToD doesn't work.

Now, about 20 minutes ago, some random noob on my server ran up and killed the PH after I had been sitting there with it locked-on, undisturbed, for about 9 hours.

My advice to anyone thinking about this NM: if you are on a particularly crowded server, like Asura, or your server has a lot of idiots on it who, for example, like to make their character name their full RL name, do not bother with this NM. It will drive you crazy. Just go buy or try to BC an Astral/Serket ring, it would probably be a better money/time investment than this stupid NM.

I sit here wondering why the hell they even made this thing to be this way. Maybe because Japanese players aren't this stupid and inconsiderate, they didn't think this would happen. Well, gg.
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# Mar 06 2007 at 9:28 AM Rating: Decent
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After being 0/4 on RG I finally got Vilma's. Soloed as 63 THF/NIN, capped Eva and Marksmenship helped alot, the day before I tried as 62 THF/NIN and wasn't doing enough damage without boltz so I called out my NPC. Fireing off Acid boltz and bloody bolts helped counter RGs Auto-regen in between swings. Finished the battle with 700+ health out of 1100 so RG wasn't too hard. Started the Battle with Sneak Attack + Dancing edge for 700+ which only brought her down to 85%~. Other than that though it was a standard battle. Now if I can only get a Rain Hat my mage jobs would be set.
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# Jan 16 2007 at 9:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Popped about 9.5 hrs after emergency maintenance today. 1/1. Lucky.
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# Jan 06 2007 at 5:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Does a 62Whm have any chance whatsoever of killing this nm or is death immenant??
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# Jan 06 2007 at 11:28 AM Rating: Decent
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um... probably not, maybe with your NPC in Tanking mode and the same level as you.... I did it as 60THF/RNG and barely survived. If it wasn't for my NPC curing me 3-4 times I would have been toast.
Voluptuous Vilma
# Jan 04 2007 at 3:02 AM Rating: Decent
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The pics of Voluptuous Vilma come from a character that was taken to the test server for some type of all-server-wide ballista event or something. It's said that he/she outpost warped out there and rushed over and took the pics. It wasn't me that took these pics. This is just people talking, but it makes the most sense to me.
My ring drop
# Dec 21 2006 at 6:11 PM Rating: Decent
I got Vilma's Ring today on Asura. Killed Rose Garden at 4:52 CST. I went there and waited since it was 10 hours after maintenance. Popped right on time for me. I finished up 1/4 on him, so I consider myself very lucky. Funny side note, in the middle of the fight I threw on my Dream Hat and Dream Robe from the Starlight Celebration, thinking it might help me have a merry X-mas :)

If I could give any advice on this NM, I'd say try your best to work with the other campers. If your servers are like Asura, there were 3 or 4 guys that were camping this often. We talked together, and when one of us couldn't make a spawn time, we passed the ToD on to someone else. This works so much better than killing the PH for a ToD. If we all did the kill-PH-and-go-to-bed-method, we'd never see Rose Garden. Because of some cooperation, now the other guys have one less person to compete with. ^^ Big thanks to the others campers, especially Graograman and Raain. Got the ring and met some decent players too.
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My ring drop
# Feb 11 2008 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Got the ring wasn't bad
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approximate tod
# Dec 10 2006 at 8:21 AM Rating: Decent
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There is a conquest talley every hour on the hour that will show up on your log. If someone does happen to kill the PH while your camping it and are AFK then you can have an approximate tod on the PH. Just count the nuber of tallies since "Player defeats Overgrown Rose" or your follow is canceled and you can have some idea of when it was killed last.

First Time
# Dec 09 2006 at 3:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Killed Overgrown Rose and went to bed, 10.5hours later I logged in and to my suprise it was up! Buff up and started meleeing. Wasn't too bad for 64RDM/BLM. Had to Convert once, luckily I didn't get silenced and 26 EXP and a Wild Pineapple so 0/1.
wish i could just claim this thing once >.>
# Dec 04 2006 at 5:42 PM Rating: Decent
lucky for you guys >.> i've been camping RG for a long time now and it will never pop. here on hades we have a jp player by the named on Linkle who likes to come in twice a day, everyday and kill Overgrown Rose to ruin the chances of RG poping ever. other campers have told me the same and have reported it to GM many times [7-8 people] and GM won't do anything about it, but hopefully soon enough this person might miss a day or two giving me chance to get lucky once. as of now lately no one has bothered camping RG so i have an advantage but yesterday this 75 nin seen me get to camp and lock my target on OR and decided to kill it on purpose... boy i wanted to literally strangle the guy... wish they would change this to lottery or just force pop or something... GM would rather let idiots continue to just piss off other players instead of dealing with this concern. anyways my time will come someday^^
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# Oct 25 2006 at 3:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Killed as 63NIN/26WHM today. Only hit me with sweet breath for 73. Used blind para and slow was pretty easy fight.

30 exp and no drop ; ; oh well I'll try again
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# Oct 25 2006 at 3:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Just killed this today as 63nin/26whm >.>fight went ok just blinded para'd and slowed took about 5 mins or so and it did use bad breath when it was on about 3% >.<

Only hp I lost was from Sweet Breath which took 72, anyway got 30 exp and no drop =/
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1/12 finally ^^
# Oct 12 2006 at 11:42 PM Rating: Decent
just wanted to post on this ^^ i finally got this thing 1/12 <.>
spent day and night in the jungle after the ring, thru many hardships.
I dont what to spread any Vicious superstions <.< but i solo'ed this on whm/thf (as i had done many time's before)trump crown,but no signet.Right before i killed it i ate a wild pinapple(droped for a pervious garden) and got
2 vine's,1 pinapple, and one ring O.o the most drop id ever gotten from this. Well thats my story ^^ GL to anyone HardCore enough to camp for this awsome ring ^^
Galm , i hv time bring it
# Oct 06 2006 at 6:49 PM Rating: Decent
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0/22

2days ago, when rg pop i voke it and its name red to me, suddenly a japs name Galm use bug to stole it from me... i m the only 1 know when it pop...after he claimed it he message me @#%^ then i message him back @#%^ ... He think he is a king or something can do whatever he want and want me to leave

the next day he's here again and now we playing whos the best ph killer, i already spent 38days on this nm , so i wont go anywhere till i got my ring, right now ill kill ph each 8-9 hrs till 01-12-2006


sit under or on the bridge or /follow both are stupid idea... if someone saw u doing this will kill your PH

Edited, Oct 6th 2006 at 7:52pm PDT by Angelusoo
sam vs RG
# Oct 05 2006 at 6:51 AM Rating: Decent
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68 sam can i kill it? i cant find the level of the mob anywhere, i need somthing to camp to keep me from being bored
Tip on Vilma Ring
# Oct 03 2006 at 6:12 PM Rating: Decent
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1/7 on this guy

9-12hr pop on Overgrown Rose

Vilma Ring is about a 5% drop rate.
a good way to camp this guy is kill it before u go to bed and wake up on with Rose Garden's window open.
EXAMPLE: i kill it at 9:30-10:00PM est, i went to sleep and woke up about 6:30-7:00AM est with Rose Garden looking at me.I killed the PH and went to work, came back home and Rose Garden is up again, thats 2 claims a day i get.
A good way to tell if no one have kill the PH(Overgrown Rose)
is to leave ur character on overnight and have him target Overgrown Rose, take off ur ls and all chat filters, just in case someone has killed it and messed up ur 9-12hr wait, and believe me people will do that.

Rose Garden's drop rate is about 5%, so i figured kill it in 5 sec lol, i dunno why i thought that but it worked, i was duel boxing my g/f's character(73WHM) and im a 75RDM/NIN,she used Earth Crusher at 300tp and i use Savage Blade at 300tp and it MB'd for 455 Scission, so i cast Stone 3 right after that and got MB. WHM kept on casting Banishga2 and Banish3 on it while i nuked it with Thunder3,Blizzard3, and Fire3 and finally it died in about 10-12 sec total.

Got Drop:Vilma Ring 1/7

:::TIP:::

So heres an increase of % on that drop.Supposedly when Rose Garden is up for a certain amount of time, Voluptuous Vilma will spawn and the drop rate is increase to about 15% which is still better than the 5%. But goodluck on this drop i hope my info can help u in some way,if your on Bismarck server send me a /tell




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gm
# Oct 03 2006 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Wolfyline this sucker keep killing ph each 5mins all day, time to call gm

btw 0/22
fucker name Bigby
# Sep 21 2006 at 4:34 AM Rating: Decent
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A @#%^er name Bigby kill ph each 3hrs and message said time to work , will back to kill ph then he logout....

time to call gm
sit under or on the bridge or /follow both are stupid idea.
# Sep 17 2006 at 12:36 AM Rating: Decent
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sit under or on the bridge or /follow both are stupid idea... if someone saw u doing this will kill your PH

0/19
10 x PH killed by someone (all because of someone /follow the ph)
2 x Rose Garden stole by Demochin
1 x lv28 rdm aggro it @9hrs58mins;;



Edited, Sep 26th 2006 at 6:54pm PDT by Angelusoo
Word of warning for Ragnarok players. ;)
# Sep 11 2006 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
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So this guy named Godzilla on Ragnarok has killed the Place Holder a few times on his main job saying he is death warping. First off, what n00b DWs with their 60+ job in the Jungle. No he purposely killed the Place Holder so timer would restart. So... I check him. Oh what's this. An innappropriately named LS. GM call :) And this picture will tell the rest of my story.

http://ffxi-musketeers.com/cugallery/displayimage.php?album=74&pos=41
Long story short. Monoplizing is bad mmkay. :) Mess with fire and you'll get burned. I don't care who you are. Ask Bobdeezz. I ain't afraid to cut anyones throat. :) I shoulda been a THF >:D

Wow! So Silverwulf goes and kills the placeholder and says "Tell illivatur I said thanks" OMG! That's harrasment and more monoplizing of an NM. GM Call 2 :)
2 players and 1 LS in one day! I'm on a roll. Don'tcha just love stupid people. :D Heres the link to this GM Call :D

http://ffxi-musketeers.com/cugallery/displayimage.php?album=74&pos=42

Edited, Sep 11th 2006 at 11:30pm EDT by illivatur

Edited, Sep 12th 2006 at 3:13am EDT by illivatur
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Monk62 kill it?
# Sep 10 2006 at 3:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Can a MNK62/THF31 kill this?
Monk62 kill it?
# Sep 11 2006 at 7:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Maybe, if you 2hr yes. It's 65 so it would be a tough fight. Also, if you DO 2hr, your going to give it TP faster, and Bad Breath would hurt you alot. I'd go with a mage just for safety measures. Also, /thf hasn't helped me with drops at all. I've even had a THF with TH+4 help me. No drop 3 times.
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# Sep 07 2006 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
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0/7on this now... Orz.
http://ffxi-musketeers.com/cugallery/displayimage.php?album=74&pos=29

Drops... Malboro Vine: 2/7
Vilma's Ring: 0/7

http://ffxi-musketeers.com/cugallery/displayimage.php?album=74&pos=33

I'll add my 2 cents worth of experience though...
I've camped this NM religiously for the past 4 days now. I've actually sat in front of my PC from the time it's reached 8 hours after Place Holder pops tell the Rose Garden is claimed/killed. I've had all chat filters off so I see every bit of text. So far no ones touched the Overgrown Rose. A few people have come by and joked around saying that they are gonna kill the OR... which to them might be funny... but to those of us who have sat and camped this for hours, days, months, it is not funny at all. Anywaz, everytime Rose Garden pops for me it's after the 10 hour mark. I have yet to see it pop after 11 hours or before 9. So far the 10 hours and 12 minutes is pretty true. Not exactly 10 hours and 12 minutes, but always around that time. First was 10 hours and 23 minutes, 2nd was 10 hours and 14 minutes and third was 10 hours and 11 minutes. Anywaz, those of you who are camping it. Good luck. Thanks for listening to my 2 cents.

Also to answer the Q below, yes Overgrown Rose does depop when Rose Garden pops. So autofollowing it or auotlocking onto it won't work if it pops.


Edited, Sep 10th 2006 at 1:29pm EDT by illivatur

Edited, Sep 11th 2006 at 8:41am EDT by illivatur
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# Sep 06 2006 at 11:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Trying to camp this for the last week... people just can't leave sh*t alone long enough. /sigh
Something I was wondering.. if someone tries to kill the Overgrown Rose.. and that person dies. It's considered tampered with right? So.. if someone aggroes it and runs and ends up dieing... since the mob would depop.. that means timer restarts right? But how sure is anyone that tampering with the PH without killing it resets the timer?

Edited, Sep 7th 2006 at 3:33pm EDT by illivatur
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# Aug 21 2006 at 2:25 AM Rating: Decent
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so here is my question.. your autoing it.. does it automatically change names, or do you have to change the target when it turns into rose garden?
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Yes the Overgrown Rose depops and out comes Rose Garden. If you are /following Overgrown Rose... you will run through the NM, and look like an idiot walking into a wall for hours. So going AFK past the 9 hour mark is silly. Cause I have had a guy camp agianst me and he did /follow and I swear to god the next minute it depopped and Rose Garden was up and I claimed, he camp back and was like WTF you kill PH for? >.> So his loss not mine.
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# Aug 01 2006 at 12:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Well cmaping it is not too bad once you know whats up. Just takes some simple addition.

I get 2 shots at him per day. Basically, I kill the PH at like 8 pm, then later that night I log offin his area. Before I go to work in the morning, I log on to see if Rose Garden is up (this is about 10-10.5 hrs into it). Ive been lucky so far on this.

If hes not up (or even if he is) I will kill the PH and restart the timer and go to work. While im at work I stand on the top of the bridge and keep target lock on so that I wont aggro if Garden pops before I get home. So far so good, as hes popped within 30 minutes after I get home.

Camping it defiantely tanks time to do. So far ive been lucky in that no one else is camping it and kiling the PH while the clock is running. Only one time was my target lock off, but he still ended up popping within the 9-13 hr window. go figure.

Id like ot get the drop and be done with it thought ;/

He very easy for a 75 bst. Barely puts a dent in courrier carrie (literally takes like 5% of carreis hp is all).

I sub thf and bring 4-leafed clover and wear trump crown... all the gimicky crap... but still no luck.

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# Jul 26 2006 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
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this NM can be crap to camp apparently. 0/4 on this drop now as 74thf, easy fights as /nin haven't tried as anything else.

I haven't gotten drop yet and it sucks when random people run by and aggro the PH during the window... =/

basically, if noone else is in the pit (don't be a dick and try to outcamp someone on this) kill the PH, target the next one that pops and lock-on it. then go to sleep, go to work, go do whatever for 8.5 hours. then come back, if your still locked on then sit down for 1-3 hours and wait for it to change to NM, if your not locked on then go do something else in game, or kill PH again and go away again for 8 hours.

if you sit under or on the bridge you won't loose target on the PH through all it's roaming. out of the 4 times i've gotten NM to pop i've sat there for the time span for at least 8, but people kill PHs randomly often.

PH = placeholder = overgrown rose
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# Jul 21 2006 at 5:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Saw this on my way to Yhoator jungle. I was 60nin/30thf and decided to kill it.
Cast Utsusemi: Ni and used Sole sushi. Started fight with Kurayami:Ni and casted all debuffs paralyze worked out pretty well. Fight was rather slow but he didnt hit too much. Bad Breath was meanie one too 350hp and gave the status effects. Took 4 echo drops to get silence off. At this momemnt i got hit twice and both hit
90-100. Anyway shadows up and continue poking it paralyze was still mean.

It finally dies gives 35 exp and malboro vine >>.
How to Spawn
# Jul 06 2006 at 9:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I've been camping for this ring for quite a while now, 1/11 on the ring, finally, On top of which I've gotten the last 11 in a row. Each time I camped, I had had Thf subbed for Treasure Hunter, BLM75/THF; most of the time not even a Vine or Pineapple droped from it. Very easy kill, very suseptable to Sleep and Sleep II.
I've seen some posts above, and after reading them all, it's easy get mislead.
Hopefully this may help, go off of what I've experienced:

How it can spawn:
First of all, you must kill the Overgrown Rose to activate the timer in which Rose Garden will spawn within 9-13 hours. With the time I have camped, 12 hours 34 minutes has been the longest I've waited for it to convert from Overgrown Rose to Rose Garden.
If you decide to show up and wait 24 hours and no pop, that doesn't mean it's a 24 hour + NM, it's the fact that the Overgrown Rose has been tampered with since you got there. When I say tampered with, it means that some one has either gotten aggro from or has tried to ranged attack or cast on it etc. Any time it is tampered with, it MUST be killed and the timer MUST restart at time zero and unfortunately wait 9-13'ish hours.
Rose Garden can't spawn at any other locations, it spawns at only (I-7) in Yuhtunga Jungle, don't waste your time trying to find alternative ways to spawn this NM. I highly doubt SE made it so Rose Garden could have multiple spawning conditions, they aren't that advanced yet, nor will they ever. Perhaps until the Gil sellers have been banned, will I believe there are multiple spawn conditions.
Sorry to those who believe in this theory, but it can spawn under any conditions. Rainy (single or double) weather does not need to be present for Rose Garden to spawn, though it can be present. Same goes with the butterflies that often times are flying around.

Look closely at the Voluptuous Vilma post on JP site, does that look real to you? I may be wrong, but I thought JP screens mob's were written in Japanese Symbols. If that picture is perhaps real, unfortunately I know that after leaving Rose garden untouched for 9-13 hours, it despawns again to an Overgrown Rose. There's a 1 percent chance of Voluptuous Vilma popping, probably even lower.
Good luck to all on the drop, for I am yet to get it to drop, despite hours of camping it.

Edited, Jul 6th 2006 at 8:54pm EDT by EnderWiggam

Edited, Jul 7th 2006 at 10:57am EDT by EnderWiggam

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Recently it seems 5 people from the infamous gilselling linkshell "DragonFlyingSky" on Remora seems to think killing the rose every 5 min will eventually make it spawn Rose Garden. It's kind of amusing actually, the red mage killing it even died a few times. It's even pissing off a few players, it's hilarious watching them vent. I've been camping it for 2 weeks, and I'm at 0/5 so far, but I really don't care if it never pops. Camping this has been a much needed break from FFXI, and I'm getting alot accomplished. My advice to anyone who camps this, just leave your character logged in and check in periodically. It's been fun not playing FFXI all day, AFK camping is the best thing ever.

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I actually had someone pull me all the way to Norg before killing the Overgrown Rose. LOL.
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# Jun 01 2006 at 1:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, I camped this guy all night last night and after killing the OR and marking the time, using the /follow trick, I got up this morning and checked for spawn of RG. Nothing... then after reading this forum more thoroughly I realized I was camping the wrong OR in the wrong area! Ugh, so I find the right one, kill it, mark the time, /follow. I come home from work and I was still /follow on it but I checked the log and after 8 hours of no disturbance I see that someone had been defeated by it. Talk about frustrating! However, this is a really great item and well worth trying this out a few times before giving up. Thanks for everyone's great info! ^^

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Something interesting I noticed, can't confirm though.

I killed Rose Garden yesterday at 4AM. I left my character in the spawn location until 5PM the next day, at which point I left. Noone touched the Overgrown Rose after I killed Rose Garden the night before.

My theory is that you actually have to kill an Overgrown Rose to start the spawn timer for Rose Garden. Either that, or the spawn window is longer than 12 hours.

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I'm going to have to shoot this theory down. I've been camping Rose Garden for over a week now and I tried letting the Overgrown Rose that pops after defeating Rose Garden stay up for 10+ hours. And it popped Rose Garden. So perhaps yours was tampered with or something. :/
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# Apr 14 2006 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
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was running through to norg and saw her up killed got ring 1/1 lol all my bad luck finally turned good!
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1/1 How cool is that, wasn't even camping it. Then got elshimo marble on 5th lizard after that. Damn I feel lucky ^^
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# Apr 06 2006 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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1/11. This morning it finally dropped for me! In the course of my camping this thing, I have figured out quite a bit. Without these forums, I would not have had any luck... so I decided to share and confirm various things. Here are the facts you need to know:

- Although there may be a mob named Voluptuous Vilma, be assured that Rose Garden *DOES* drop the ring. For a while I wondered. But now two people in my LS have gotten a ring from the NQ spawn "Rose Garden." Supposedly Vilma will pop if Rose Garden is left for 10 hours and drops the ring 100% of the time. The chances of this happening are incredibly slim, so don't get your hopes up and just camp Rose Garden.

- Based on the figures I have read on this site and others, I would guesstimate the drop rate at slightly less than 10%

- If not touched at all, the Overgrown Rose at (I-7) turns into Rose Garden after 10:00-10:30 roughly. NO OTHER OVERGROWN ROSE IN THE ZONE DOES -- this is a common misconception. Basically, you will see Overgrown Rose "fade" into Rose Garden -- somewhat of a simultaneous despawn/respawn. If your cursor is on Overgrown Rose at the time, it will lose focus during the despawn/respawn... so if there is competition, keep your cursor on a bee to avoid this rather distracting side-effect.

- Start camping at 10 hours of an untouched Overgrown Rose and no sooner because it is a waste of time. I have seen a LOT of spawns and never has one been before 10 hours. If Overgrown Rose is touched at all, the timer is reset -- even if it kills the person that touched it and does not despawn (found this out the hard way).

- Rose Garden is mostly easy if you are high level. Its accuracy is fairly terrible. If you are not high level, do a little research before camping.

- The best camping technique to use is:

Kill the placeholder, wait for it to come up again (5 minutes), tack a /follow on it (and keep your cursor on it), and come back 10 hours later on the nose. If you are still /following it with your cursor on it, then no one has killed it. Check your chatlog to see if anyone has touched it and died to it just to make sure. I always /pol'ed before using /follow to clear my log. Please use some manners -- if someone is camping the placeholder keep your hands off -- I'm guilty of violating this rule twice, but oh well :). Many times, though, you will find the placeholder uncamped due to the frustrating nature of this NM. This is particularly true at off-peak hours. My pattern was to kill the placeholder at 8:50PM, then check my follow and camp RG at 7:00AM when I got up. Then I would kill the placeholder again at 7:45AM and camp after work. I was able to get two spawns a day this way on occassion. Many times the placeholder was killed and -- because of the /follow -- I knew it so no time was lost on my part. If there are others trying this technique, try to work out a schedule with them so that you both have an equal shot at the claim.

This is all you need to know to successfully camp this beast. Good luck on camping this really terrible NM!
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VoluptuousVilma is a googlewhack :D try it
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I had a weird day, I couldn't sleep so I logged on, and camped her for a bit. Nothing. So I camp Micholas as RDM/SMN and don't get dagger. I'm the only one there so I head to Kaz and sub THF and head back to camping him. I check on RG, but some RDM with Errant is sitting there /anon now. I head to Mich and get him again, this time with dagger.

So I head back to RG spawn, and she's up. The Errant RDM must be AFK. I tell my LS and my 69 SAM friend (Ancient) comes and lays the hurt on her. The fight was less than 20 seconds long, I got the drop. No more will I visit the spot. I told my LS the ToD, and washed my hands of this NM.
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# Mar 15 2006 at 6:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Luck does favour some people.

Was on my way to a manaburn (spent so long setting up I was due to log in 30 mins ><), and Rose Garden is up, promptly making me reach for a fresh pair of trousers. I have come by there for months on the off chance..
Anyhoo, due to its annoying regen, burning it (alone, kept it quiet from pt) proved useless (got it to 50% before bailing), so i got a rep and very very hurridly got on my thf, praying that no-one else was passing by my level, got a yhoat port, and pounded my way back, walking painstakingly slow with intermittant flees back, almost on the verge of panic.
I get there and thankfully its inviting a sneak attack, so i deal it one, the battle isnt difficult, got hit twice because i cancelled utsusemi accidentally, and.. well 1/1 on the ring.
Yes this is technically a yippee post lol, so i suppose i can add that a 60 thf/nin could solo it comfortably, and judging by experience (friends), every 9 hours there is the POSSIBILITY of a transformation into Rose Garden, and whatever the window for this is, if it closes, then there is another 9 hour wait for the next window. Just a guess, but it would explain why people i know have waited in multiples of 9 hours for this to pop, one of them going for 36 hours before it popped (insomniacs anonymous ^^).
Standard marlboro with what i guess is regen II, no special abilities otherwise. Weak to damage ^^

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# Dec 23 2006 at 6:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I was passing by whacking away at lizzies for yhoat quest, and I see this. Im also 60thf/nin, but i had a hell of a time with this one lol. his regen isnt too bad, but definately noticable. One big thing to be aware of is his special attack Sweet Breath. twice, it did 300+ damage to me, but from some reason the next 3 times it was use was 50 or less. Not sure what made the difference but w/e lol ^^ Was a fun fight, came close to dying were it not for bloody bolts (soooooo glad id been skill marksmanship lately lol). 0/1 on this ring, oh wells ^^ Just posting to say, your right, he isnt that hard, but you definately need to be aware of whats going on ^^
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