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Vana'diel Bestiary: King Vinegarroon  

Family:Scorpion
Found in:Western Altepa Desert
Found at Location:G - 11
Level:82 - 85
Grants Title:Vinegar Evaporator
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  • Notorious Monster
  • Not Aggro
  • Not Linking
  • Appears during Dust Storms / Sand Storms
  • Based on Earth
  • Weak against Ice
  • Weak against Light
  • Strong against Darkness
  • Strong against Water
Drops:
Updated: Tue Nov 3 18:48:36 2009

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General Information

King Vinegarroon's Spawn Location
King Vinegarroon's Spawn Location

  • Can spawn 21-24 hours after it despawned or is defeated, but only during Earth weather (single or double weather does not matter). If no Earth weather forms during the 21-24 hour time frame, King Vinegarroon has a possiblity of spawning during any subsequent Earth weather.

  • Will despawn if the Earth weather in the area dissipates and no one has hate on King Vinegarroon.

  • Has a draw-in effect that will pull all members of your party/alliance that are in the zone to it. This will also pull members of your group that are on Chocobos as well as members that are dead.

    • After a draw-in effect triggers, King Vinegarroon will always follow up with an AoE Tp move.

  • Has a potent auto-regen effect that cannot be dispelled.

    • The regen effect is far more potent during the night than it is during the day.

  • King Vinegarroon's melee attacks can inflict an additional Petrification effect.

  • Grants title: Vinegar Evaporator

King Vinegarroon Special Attacks

  • Earthbreaker: AoE Earth based magic damage with additional Dexterity down and Stun effects.

  • Venom Storm: AoE strong Poison effect.

  • Wild Rage: AoE physical damage with an additional Poison effect.

  • Death Scissors: Strong single target physical damage.

  • Mandible Bite: Single target physical damage.

  • Venom Sting: Single target physical damage with an additional Poison effect.

Historical Information

The Vinegarroon is a member of the subspecies of arachnids known as Whip Scorpions, named as such due to a stingless whip like tail used as a sensory organ rather than a defensive weapon. Unlike their scorpion cousins, the Vinegarroon has no venom to speak of, but instead expels a mist of acetic acid as a defense mechanism.

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pwned him fast
# Jul 18 2007 at 1:48 AM Rating: Default
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after we all gathered it took are LS about 40-50 seconds to take him down from 100%, bunch of Mnk/drk and KC drks and his like drops super fast.
/grin
# Jun 11 2007 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Call me crazy, but i went 1/2 on the drop. I got mine on 5/22/07. Got ToD Sunday, killed Monday, lost ToD Tuesday, geared up for a 6+ Hour window (I started camping it three hours before Mondays ToD) Wednesday and it popped first-second window, got drop, uncontested. A V. Claw also dropped, hehe.

Facts:

*It's window are 21-24+++++ hours. It can spawn several hours (at the very
least) after its window ends.

*Can spawn on single earth weather.

*Has an extremely high chance of spawning on Earth Day/Earth weather x2. I've
only seen it spawn on something other than Earth day once, and we killed this
NM numorous amounts of times after i got the drop (no drop;).

*It can spawn mid-weather, but usually once earth weather hits.

*It spawns in the exact same spot everytime and is extremley huge.

*It does not aggro or link.

*It is Chain Spell Stunable - thats how we did it, along with 2+ Krakn DRKs
including my self.

*It depops after losing hate once weather is gone, so having a RDM/NIN kite is
essential when gathering members.

GOOD F*CKING LUCK!


Edited, Jun 11th 2007 12:10pm by Gregorious
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very scary scorp
# Mar 16 2007 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Was running through Altepa after update, saw this on widescan and went for a looksy. after admiring it for a while my girlfriend told me to hit it lol. Yes i did as im stupid. Charmed a tulwar scorp and sent it for a spanking then proceeded to /Run away. Hit me for 360+ Dmg with stoneskin Add effect petrify. Oh yah his draw in seemed to work when i was running away not just on TP moves
. Dead in 3 hits, good times.
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# Feb 14 2007 at 4:08 PM Rating: Decent
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for Ace's Helm is that a 100% drop?
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Far from 100%
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Can spawn during Single or double earth weather. Despawns when he loses all hate and there is no earth weather. His regen increases at night. 21-24 Hour. He dosen't draw-in when you try and run away, only during some TP moves. Spawns at G-11 of Western Altepa Desert.

Edited, Feb 2nd 2007 6:03pm by chaossamurai
#Godsvengance, Posted: Dec 24 2006 at 3:26 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Freaking awesome. I watched them kite this thing from 4 am til 6:20 am. around the Cactus trees! I was like "Are they ever going to try and kill it!"
stunable?
# Dec 13 2006 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
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is this thing immune to stun?if not was thinking a chainspell stun full out zerk may work.we've got a few 75 drks with Kclub to bloodweapon souleater and swing away lol.
spawn location
# Aug 16 2006 at 12:51 AM Rating: Decent
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i was curious if there was a spawning location on this NM and if so where ?
Stoneskin
# Feb 03 2006 at 6:35 PM Rating: Decent
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one thing to note, ( i was standing on the sideline during a King V fight) that the poison eats stoneskin. even out of any compbat my stoneskin kept wearing quickly.

p.s. asked a friend that didn't have stoneskin and he said dmg for poison was 30/tick and when i checked mine it was 20/tick so SS might dull effect.(if we miscounted or anything please post correction)
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# Jan 23 2006 at 2:44 AM Rating: Good
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Obviously with heavy regen it's HP will go up over time. I parsed our fight and we did 28,000 dmg in under 60 seconds for the kill.

The key is to just obliterate it as fast as possible. It was actually an insanely easy fight, no one even died. Most people would probably say you just go all out manaburn but we only had like 4 BLM's in the alliance, the rest melee.

Helm actually dropped, it's the first one on Siren. No v.claw.
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# Jul 18 2007 at 7:46 AM Rating: Decent
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i like how people say "this is the first one on XXX server" when its possible that it is not. this NM isnt new.
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#YourPassenger, Posted: Jan 23 2006 at 2:41 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Replying to some earlier posts...The reason why SAM is so PIMP is cause SAM is ******* from Japan Culture So y'know They gunna make it best job for everyone! But still BLM> all at damage Lol can beat that yo
killed it
# Nov 28 2005 at 5:49 AM Rating: Decent
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He only dropped heavy shell

99dmg bullet
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# Oct 25 2005 at 5:29 PM Rating: Decent
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To the poster below, King Vinegarroon's draw in works exactly like the Minotuar's (PM 2-3), as in, if you are in the zone when it draws someone in your party/alliance in, everyone, including yourself (even if your on a choco) will be drawn into him.

I tested this on some people i was camping Cactuar Cantactor when they were chocoing back from changing subjobs, they came with the choco's.
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#Lobivopis, Posted: Oct 24 2005 at 4:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I don't believe that for one reason, when you are on a chocobo you cannot be on a mob's agro list.
I wonder
# Oct 13 2005 at 4:21 AM Rating: Decent
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You know...... i was just thinking.... 20 ppl, dependent on levels, fighting a undead with aoe drain or the equivalent wuld take forever. Culd this scorpions regen effect be based on how large a pt/alliance is?
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# Oct 02 2005 at 8:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Well on a positive note at least its in a zone where a few experienced helpers can kill any mpk attempts.
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# Sep 14 2005 at 1:14 PM Rating: Decent
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funny story. My ls decided to tackle this guy just for kicks. After porting a party to altep, i had to stop in rabao to change to main job. while in there, they decide to engage before it despawns. So i'm like, "crap, can I get there before they all die?"
Anyway, I hop on a choco. I zone and look at the map and think "crap, i have a long way to go, I won't make it before they die" and at that time, my screen kinda flickers. I'm like, wtf? look at the map again, and I'm there! He drew me in from Rabao zone while on my chocobo. lol
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#gumytail, Posted: Sep 07 2005 at 10:53 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) so if what everyone is saying is true about the hnm, ur looking at major whm power, or med's, give or take around 30 people range close to 75, my advice is if u want it that bad have 2 alliances setup one to take it on and another backup, incase **** hits the fan, seeing as his hnm does alot of damage use nin tanks and have come pld's here incase u get someone tryin to steal, ou will need major dd's for this one, if u want to put a halt to the auto regen, i would say use manaburn style for after sc towards end so the thing cant recover. but hey im just alowly 70 whm, my job is the easy partkeeping u alive.
Level?
# Sep 07 2005 at 12:54 AM Rating: Default
What level is this NM? Could I solo it at all?
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# Sep 09 2005 at 1:09 AM Rating: Decent
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**** no you can't solo this. It's got massive regen capabilities and an extremely large HP pool. This is considered an HNM (High-level Notorious Monster)and will probably take hours to beat. I watched an alliance fight this guy for 2 hour and barely move his HP. maybe a 1/4 of the way. Then again this was way back when it first came out, so people maybe have better strategies now.

Drops multiple V. Claws, well worth the fight.

Edited, Fri Sep 9 02:29:24 2005
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RE: Level?
# Jul 14 2006 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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This is considered an HNM (High-level Notorious Monster)


LMAO! HAHAHA! Thank you for puting a much needed smile on my face HNM stands for Hyper Notorious Monster not High-Level, the lvl has nothing to do with it, take forinstance Serket, my grandma subing nin could solo him.
RE: Level?
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Actually, you're wrong.

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/675/detail.html

"In addition, a new type of high notorious monster (HNM) will be added to the beastman strongholds."
#kast, Posted: Jan 13 2006 at 10:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) HNM is honarary notorious monster, gives a title
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2 hours and only 1/4 health? lol, they must have sucked. i saw some people kill nidhogg in like... 20-30 minutes.
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RE: Level?
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i saw some people kill nidhogg in like... 20-30 minutes.


That's nothing, I saw some guy 1 hit kill a Wild Rarab solo. But none of that really matters, because this page is about King Vinegaroon.
RE: Level?
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<full attack!> killed it in like 5 min with hnm ls, 1 claw no helm ; ;
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# Sep 05 2005 at 6:28 PM Rating: Default
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The HNM ls, Feather, on pheonix beat this guy. If you wanna know what he drops, ask them.
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How?
# Aug 26 2005 at 10:02 AM Rating: Decent
If anyone has seriously beat this thing and is on the boards I'd love to know how you killed it. I've seen everything I could think of thrown at this guy from LS's. BLMs did roughly 500~ dmg per IV spell, not to many major resists but the Auto Regen is just ridiculously high on it. I've seen it taken to about 90% life dozens of times after a Light Skill chain and multiple MBs but it would regen to full before another SC went off. Also has anyone figured out if its preventable to stop the AoE draw in? That's really the only thing I can think of that would let the Alliance damage faster.
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# Aug 20 2005 at 9:08 PM Rating: Decent
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was walking through the area and saw that he was up. so i went and saw him being kited by a *** ninja. got a SS and then argoed a cacter near him charmed a tullwar and took him to a "Safe" area away from knig. midway though the fight in the chat box it says that king killed me. no dmg was delt it just said he killed me. just wanted to warn all of the people who would wana go get a look at him.

Edit: in the screanshots of him after my death i see a guy fall off a choco and die.

Edited, Sat Aug 20 22:21:14 2005
Doesn't Aggro
# Aug 19 2005 at 2:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I was quite surpised to discover that this NM doesn't aggro. Me and many others would around it and /poke it, but it didn't attack. I atempted to fight it with an alliance, we took down like 2% HP then wiped.
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King Vinegarroon
# Aug 18 2005 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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My brother try this with 16 lvl 75.
They where whipe out by his AoE. Almost 500+ a hit.
They should put down that he drops Heavy Shell too. He has seen JP running around with it after the battle.




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# Aug 17 2005 at 3:32 AM Rating: Decent
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I have a friend thats in an HNM linkshell on another server that has killed Vrtra and Jormungand

They couldnt even get this thing to 50%....

this is quite possibly the hardest monster in the game, and I have yet to hear of someone taking it down.



Edited, Wed Aug 17 04:46:00 2005
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# Aug 13 2005 at 1:10 PM Rating: Good
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it isn't listed on the dropped items but this HNM also drops the Heavy Shell. Everybody has been trying to find out how to get one and now we know. Hopefully they update it soon.
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# Aug 13 2005 at 12:04 AM Rating: Decent
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does this thing have placeholders?
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I dont know wtf is wrong with SE lately. Starting from several patches ago that SE introduced SAM JSE with a crap load of +STR, then the new torque that gives +5STR +7 GK skill, and now the hat that gives +4STR and 4% haste...
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I dont know wtf is wrong with SE lately. Starting from several patches ago that SE introduced SAM JSE with a crap load of +STR, then the new torque that gives +5STR +7 GK skill, and now the hat that gives +4STR and 4% haste...
Jealious?......Vuuu
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I think the poster was being sarcastic, as in, what is wrong with them that they're actually giving SAM good gear for once =P
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You're right, SE should give SAMs gear with loads of accuracy and introduce 3 new types of sushi, so you'll never miss but never do damage.
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SAMs need good end-game stuff with lots of STR, i think SE is doing a good job of giving that.

Edited, Tue Aug 9 17:19:57 2005
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# Aug 08 2005 at 3:48 PM Rating: Default
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Wow Vexxx... never thought someone could be such a stupid racist
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RE: /sigh
# Aug 29 2005 at 1:30 AM Rating: Default
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wow i didnt know there was such freakin ******
*points at them*
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And you're dumb for not having anything intellegent to say.
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# Aug 08 2005 at 3:45 PM Rating: Decent
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this HNM has about 20,000hp he regens faster than aspid while inside the shell from what is said seems like an all out zerg is needed to kill him.
dot dot dot
# Aug 08 2005 at 3:06 PM Rating: Default
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if a group of "gilsellers", are that big.. are you sure theyre just not a japanese HNM? what.. theyre gilsellers because they wont talk to you? i'll translate what they're saying when the do say something : "you stupid american fu*k"
RE: dot dot dot
# Aug 12 2005 at 4:25 AM Rating: Default
I believe that only what they say to YOU, my friend. Apparently you are, a "stupid fu*k" and a racist as well.
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RE: dot dot dot
# Feb 16 2006 at 5:37 AM Rating: Default
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wtf does this and all these post have to do with the HNM. stupid crapy dragoon. You do know that Dragoon sucks as a job right? DD: riiiight
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# Aug 08 2005 at 2:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a couple friends who attempted to fight this monster as part of an alliance. From what I heard, it was not a pretty fight... but at least it was quick. Supposedly it's a standard 21-24 hour spawn, with the additional condition that there needs to be a sandstorm/duststorm.

It opens with a devastating attack that Draws In the entire alliance from anywhere on the map + a 300-500 dmg AoE + stun. One of my friends then got hit with a Poison Stinger move which in addition to several hundred dmg, used a poison that took about 10 hp/ tick (he didn't have to wait long for his end). Other sources say that he has an attack (not clear whether it's his standard attack or another special move) that has an additional Petrification effect. I'm guessing that in addition to a full alliance, this HNM will require some substantial outside alliance healing help, probably several WHMs who are quick on the draw with their Stonas, Poisonas, and Erases.

The main drop for this mob is the Ace's Helm, the stats for which are found on the earliest/last post. Happy hunting!
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this HNM will require some substantial outside alliance healing help, probably several WHMs who are quick on the draw with their Stonas, Poisonas, and Erases.


Erase is pt onry :P
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My guess is that AoE is prolly the same AoE that other scorps do i.e. KS30 and it stuns, and if an alliance was actually prepared to take this out they would bring meds.
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Flood the market with V claws!
# Aug 08 2005 at 12:53 PM Rating: Decent
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That's what,4 or 5 NMs that drop the V claw now?(including suzaku and genbu)Plus the KSNM30..

Maybe they are trying to get more V claws into the market to lower the price? :p
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I don't think the intent is to flood the market to lower the cost, but i think that SE definitely wants it to be more available than it was originally. Back in the day i heard that only serket dropped the Vclaw. I'm not sure if that's true, but that would put the rate of claws entering the market at a maximum of one every 24 hours, even if it was 100% drop rate.

By keeping the drop rate low, they still expect us to work for it. They just give us more ways to challenge ourselves. It also keeps one person/group from monopolizing on all the drops, especially in the case of the KSNM.
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If they really wanted to flood the market with them, they'd up the drop rate. V Claw drop rate is pretty mediocre for everything that drops it, including vinegar boy here.
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Doesn't "always" appear
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Only appears if it's window is open during a sandstorm. I have a couple picks of him but I'm too lazy to uplaod >.>
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This thing is 10x Amikiri, its same range as dragon hnms so yea gil sellers on this, not a chance.
Huh?!
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You're telling me an HNM that strong appears that often? It says "during dust storms/sandstorms". Those are quite common in west altep. O.o
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If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
gilsellers wont touch him ^^
# Aug 08 2005 at 6:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Well i havent had a chance to fight it yet.. but i hear it makes serket look like a doom scorpion =o but then again serket isnt much harder then a doom scorpion is he ;p
SE keeping gil sellers busy
# Aug 08 2005 at 6:16 AM Rating: Default
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great now the gil sellers can camp this NM just like they do amikiri in gustav and serket, maybe this is SE's way of keeping gil sellers in business take away peacock charm and such give em another Vclaw.
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RE: SE keeping gil sellers busy
# Aug 08 2005 at 7:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Gilsellers can't camp this one. Requires a full alliance of 75s...I've yet to see a gilseller group that big.
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RE: SE keeping gil sellers busy
# Aug 08 2005 at 11:22 AM Rating: Decent
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You need to come to Asura then you'll see a group bigger then 18 75 gil sellers =P
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RE: SE keeping gil sellers busy
# Sep 28 2005 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
meh, on Asura I have seen Gilsellers fight all the sky gods, including Kirin, all the ground HNM's including the HQ kings aspid, nidd & KB, aswell as there NQ forms ...

They will try to take anything and everything on our server .....
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RE: SE keeping gil sellers busy
# Sep 04 2005 at 2:19 AM Rating: Default
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gil sellers will NEVER kill this. Ever. end of story. lol
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RE: SE keeping gil sellers busy
# Oct 01 2005 at 3:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Thats what they said before Nidhogg or w/e his name is and Vrtra but **** these guys on Asura are cunning and smarter then they look
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RE: SE keeping gil sellers busy
# Sep 20 2005 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
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dunno about "never" they'll just copy what they see like always, but cut a few "Monetary corners" like instead of SH, narasihma vest, etc...seen gilsellers take on quite a few HNMs on ramuh, or they can just steal the claim like they've done so many times...
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# Aug 08 2005 at 3:53 AM Rating: Decent
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