Went in with a pt of 68mnk/war, 73rdm/blm, 61pld/war, 60rdm/whm. I was the 73 RDM and figured I would sub blm to chainspell + escape if something went awry. We got him down to about 1/4-1/3 of his life, then he hit us with a sleepga that caught everyone (the rdm/whm was too close). The MNK woke up after being hit and was taken down by a few shots and the spammed drain thing (maybe called terror touch). I was next up on his list so when I woke up I cured the pld and the rdm/whm. The paladin voked it off me so that I could convert as I had used a lot of mp healing and buffing. I converted and cure IV'd myself twice. Then it happened...
He opened up a can of kick azz on me... He was spamming drain on me while casting ancient magic. Everyone was healing me, including myself (spamming cure IV and cure III alternately) and we just couldn't keep up. I was curing so much I couldn't kick off my 2 hour. Then the AM hit me for 600 and the next drain and couple of hits finished me off. Others went quickly after that. When I checked him right before I died he had drained enough hp from me to fill himself back up to full ><
Maybe it was just a tough one for whatever reason, but I'll definately show him more respect in the future. I'll also sub nin next time for sure!
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Vana'diel Bestiary: Miser Murphy
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Soloed as a 75RDM/37NIN. Took him out without breaking a sweat, I think he got me once the entire fight for some small damage, never hit me again. Just have the RDM that needs it stand back with Stoneskin up at all times, and also toss you a Refresh or Haste, which would help conserve the RDM/NIN's lowered MP pool. Not too much strategies to give on this guy, if you're an RDM/NIN who has soloed some semi-tough stuff (avatar primes), you can definitely do this guy. I took a video of me doing it as well, I may post it soon ^^
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Edited, Thu Sep 8 23:52:57 2005
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So my rdm buddy just got 60 today and I wanted to help him get his hat till I looked this puppy up, everyone said its so hard but we went in as my 74brd/37nin and his 60 rdm, and I barely got hit once, except after a BlizzagaII which dropped me to 400 HP, but other then that is was easy. Now to go duo that Guardian Doll....
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Thief solo is definately possible, seeing as how I did this myself as 74thf/nin just a few days back. First two times I tried it went bad as I underestimated him, so I zoned and tried again. On my third attempt, I paid more attention to my shadows and eventually killed him leaving me with around 114 HP and was cursed (kept spamming stupid Blizzaga 2). He never once hit me on the try that I beat him. Was definately a fun fight, well worth trying it solo.
Just tore through us twice. Pty was 73 pld 64 thf 60 rdm <me> 58 rdm 61 whm 59 war. This guy drain touched our pld for about 250-350 a pop and would do it as many as 3 times back to back. After our pld deleved to 72 and then died again he said peace out. Sorry Aeoea >.> I think the smart thing to do is have a puller bring him to entrance and have pty fight him there. If he gets out of hand zone then come back and have another go at him. A nin tank would be nice to...in fact while were at it Id like say 4 75 blms casting ancient magic. Then I might feel safe.
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He'll normally hit for 20-45, no big deal, except for ...
his added effect to hitting is to occasionally drain up 500HP. So anyone without utsusemi can be fighting him and in 2 hits have a 1000HP difference all of a sudden. Like the added effects of our weapons, it doesn't always activate, so you still have a chance of taking him down before he gobbles up all your HP.
I have ~1500HP and fighting this guy is a problem if he en-suck-the-life-out-of-you attacks more than 2 times in a row.
Glx 74PLD Remora
his added effect to hitting is to occasionally drain up 500HP. So anyone without utsusemi can be fighting him and in 2 hits have a 1000HP difference all of a sudden. Like the added effects of our weapons, it doesn't always activate, so you still have a chance of taking him down before he gobbles up all your HP.
I have ~1500HP and fighting this guy is a problem if he en-suck-the-life-out-of-you attacks more than 2 times in a row.
Glx 74PLD Remora
This is true. We had a 72 MNK tanking for us (He said he was up for it! Wasn't my idea!!!) Party set-up was me, 63WHM/SMN, 2 x 71BLM/WHM, 60RDM/BLM, 66BST/NIN and the 72MNK/WAR. Head to Fei'yin, see Murphy (he killed some other poor bugger on his way to greet us >.>;) In we go. Monk brays him all over, BLMs nuke his ***, BST whacks him, I stand back and cure. MNK did hundred fists halfway through fight. Was over in a matter of seconds lol. ONCE the additional drain affect kicked in, draining around 408 HP from the MNK. We needed to do the fight again, one of the BLM's needed the coin for his RDM. We escaped out and zoned back into t make him spawn. Went back down, started fight (after buffs of course). This time was a LOT hairier lol. Without hundred fists, he was taking longer to kill, and his additional affect started to kick in lots more than the last fight >< I was spam curing the MNK, then my bro, the RDM, got hate and got smacked down to 19 or so health by a nicely aimed Quake. Good thing they had a good WHM^^ (/grin). Anyway we still got him, although it was close lol. My advice~ either get a ninja or a huge amount of DD lol :) (Monks with hundred fists available seems to work a treat^^)
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i've been told that a 75pld/37nin can take this thing easily with a rdm, friend of mine killed it in 20 seconds like this (not sure how though) luckily i have a 75pld/nin friend, so ill give it a try
You know what's better? A thf tanking him XD
Thf solo's Miser Murphy Worth the download ^^
Also, you'll need Divx to watch. Enjoy!
Last link added: 1 Aug, 2005
Edited, Mon Aug 1 02:21:03 2005
Thf solo's Miser Murphy Worth the download ^^
Also, you'll need Divx to watch. Enjoy!
Last link added: 1 Aug, 2005
Edited, Mon Aug 1 02:21:03 2005
Scholar
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Must have been an old video, Miser didn't drain the THF at all. >_>
The drain is an added effect to its melee attacks, not counting the TP drain attack, which may be blinkable. Basically, it has to hit to drain HP.
THF evasion ftw!
THF evasion ftw!
Double post, stupid computer ><
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We were in Fei'yin doing 5-1 and this SoB pops and aggroed me, i absorbed attack then a MNK with us chi blasted him next thing i see is the MNK hp drop 50% in 1 hit for like 200+ 450 drain is there any possible way to kill this w.o utsusemi?
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Fight isn't that hard as everyone is posting, i found the spawn myself and starting soloing as 70nin/war, then started asking a party of japanese if they wanted to team up, we formed a party of 6, 5 of them were 55 and below, and i was only 70, finshed the fight with ease, got antique coin drop.
i dont believe this guy is 62, he took an alliance with a hand full of 70's to take him down last time i helped my friend do it and we had 2 deaths, yet our LS took down Eastern Shadow who is supposed to be 63 with a lv70 sam and a 56whm with no problem at all.
level 62..., yah...Miser Murphy doesn't hit particularly hard...each hit is like 50-100 dmg tops....UNTIL you count the additional effect of 300+ HP drain >.<
A ninja or someone with utsu:ni at least is a very good and simple way of dealing with this mob, drk/blm for stun and whatever else to rain hell on it...definitely don't underestimate this thing.
A ninja or someone with utsu:ni at least is a very good and simple way of dealing with this mob, drk/blm for stun and whatever else to rain hell on it...definitely don't underestimate this thing.
Scholar
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Me (Gideun) and my brother (hyndrosa) Duo'd this little ghost and we are both RDM 75 I was rdm/drk and my bro was rdm/smn....
I will agree Smn will do Miser Murphy to test there limits and for excitment and fun..
the fight was quick but dont under estimate ths dude! he cast shizz load of spells
I will agree Smn will do Miser Murphy to test there limits and for excitment and fun..
the fight was quick but dont under estimate ths dude! he cast shizz load of spells
I have been successful in tanking this guy in the past with an alliance of 60's and I don't remember him hitting like sledgehammer. Maybe there was a change in a previous update.
I tried to tank him last night and he took me from full health to death in 3-4 hits.
True we didn't have a WHM but we had 8 people and I think 4 of us were over 70, including a 75 Summoner. I was dead in 30 seconds, and was like omg! Luckily after the shock of my almost instant death the mages brought out the big guns and killed it before it killed anyone else.
Make sure you know who is going to be responsible for curing the tank when you take Miser on. I know I will think twice before I underestimate him again.
Thanks to Kewitt for making the trip out to Raise me with Raise III!
I tried to tank him last night and he took me from full health to death in 3-4 hits.
True we didn't have a WHM but we had 8 people and I think 4 of us were over 70, including a 75 Summoner. I was dead in 30 seconds, and was like omg! Luckily after the shock of my almost instant death the mages brought out the big guns and killed it before it killed anyone else.
Make sure you know who is going to be responsible for curing the tank when you take Miser on. I know I will think twice before I underestimate him again.
Thanks to Kewitt for making the trip out to Raise me with Raise III!
I had bad luck with him. The 75 WHM and 75 THF/NIN who were helping me along with my 61 PLD boyfriend werent' with us yet (they arrived maybe 2 minutes later) and he killed us both ... I feel kinda dumb about that :P But he spammed AM on us (Tornado X2 on PLD and Burst) and drained 410+ each time he hit. Killed me in two hits >_> But the THF showed up and soloed him - but I counted 6 AM spells absorbed by her shadows. I always heard he was super easy - did he get altered in a patch? Maybe we just had bad luck :P
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Yeah i hear ya. Another rdm 75 and I (58) went to kill this thing thinking it would be a piece of cake from the description. Ya know I thought the doll was the hard part. Keep in mind that this particular rdm who took me can easily solo all the prime avatars, Ose, and the statue doll for this quest, easily, just to name a few. I've seen him do all those many times. But this thing? Omg we got our asses handed to us. No links or anything. Miser is not silencable, not sleepable, and basically all rdm enfeeble spells are worthless on him. With bar-element spells + blink + skin, the ancient magic wasn't so annoying; it was the 500+hp drain that hurt. You can't recast stoneskin while it's still up and renew it, like you can with utsusemi. My friend hit the dirt, and i did not even have time to chainspell+ecape before i was stunned, slept, and dead. I had full buffs. This guy is nuts. Today we're going to gather all the rdm's we know and maybe a pld/nin for blink tanking/cover and unload chainspell on him. When my 75 friend got his hat he had whm's curing it to death, which i'm sure is a valid option. I do not recommend meleeing this guy, go manaburn. A nin tank MIGHT be able to handle it if he can keep hate, but if utsusemi is down for more than 2 hits, you're dead. Don't try to save money on shadows just spam it. Also casts some nasty AoE spells.
A good trick for stoneskin is to start casting it, and then around 50-60% cancel your current stoneskin if it's still active. It may be harder to time because of fast cast, but that's also going to make it harder for the enemy to hit you between the time you cancel and the time the new one comes up.
Ninja do this trick a lot to cancel utsusemi ni when they cast ichi and still have a shadow left.
Ninja do this trick a lot to cancel utsusemi ni when they cast ichi and still have a shadow left.
wow,
aramaru has some guts just staring at him like that
i know if that was me id crap my pants, hit flee, and never look back
i /salute you.
aramaru has some guts just staring at him like that
i know if that was me id crap my pants, hit flee, and never look back
i /salute you.
Scholar
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Okay, was Miser Murphy changed in one of the updates? I recall just bulldozing over this guy with party of 60+ when I got my hat like 5 months ago. Now, I'm coming back and he is taking down 75 paladins in 3-4 hits. He took me down in 2 hits. (Not only is he killing so fast, he getting 400+ hp per hit back) So, now I've come to the simple conclusion this guy HAS to be blink tanked. How come I didnt even know this before is because I think he was changed with the drain additional effect (or changed to happen a lot more often).
How did your 75 pld friend tank it? I know he doesn't do the drain effect every hit, but he only needs to do it a couple times to change the entire pace of the fight.
How did your 75 pld friend tank it? I know he doesn't do the drain effect every hit, but he only needs to do it a couple times to change the entire pace of the fight.
did this with a 60rdm/blm(me) 60 whm/brd and a 67-69 blm/whm (i forget the blm exact lvl). used the zone DoT method with high lvl nukes while whm cured if need be banished holied (lol most it did was 40) and ballad while i refreshed self and blm. it only took about 10-20 min. i forget how long it took cause i did this a while ago
Its is possible to solo this NM when you are 58+ RDM - the Tabard is very good for this. ^^
Simply put, you keep blink, refresh and shell 3 up at all times, and run the mob to the zone. You then run in and out of the zone casting DoT spells (use Poison 2, Burn, and Dia2). Use only one spell each time you zone in, and rest for one tick between casting Dia 2 and poison2.
It takes around 45 mins to solo as long as you don't rest too long for it to regain HP back.
That's it in a nutshell, theres a much more comprehensive guide on the RDM forum.
Simply put, you keep blink, refresh and shell 3 up at all times, and run the mob to the zone. You then run in and out of the zone casting DoT spells (use Poison 2, Burn, and Dia2). Use only one spell each time you zone in, and rest for one tick between casting Dia 2 and poison2.
It takes around 45 mins to solo as long as you don't rest too long for it to regain HP back.
That's it in a nutshell, theres a much more comprehensive guide on the RDM forum.
A 75 pld friend of mine on quetz tanked this guy for a rdm friend while we were there to get my AF body. We just kept cures and cursnas and blindnas or whatever he needed handy and after alot of slashing and spirits within he went down. Pld dint get below 50%, and neither mage had to rest, nor rdm convert. Kurei is {Incredibly Tough} though. So maybe it wasnt as easy as he made it look.
The first time I went up against this guy, it was as a LS event to get the coin for several RDMs that needed it. I wasn't anywhere near the level for the hat, but I decided to tag along, just in case I could get a coin anyway. We had a full alliance of 12 people, most at 60, and a few above 70.
That was probably our downfall. Everyone mobbed Miser trying to kill him quickly, and he started spamming AoE drains. With that many melee folk surrounding him, he would recharge back up to full health over and over again. Add some unforutnate agro from nearby mobs, and we had ourselves a mostly dead alliance and no kill.
The second time I encountered Murphy was by accident. My static (all at 61) was en route to the Cloister of Ice to fight Shiva. We randomly ran into Murphy near the zone and my static was like, "Ooh! Let's fight it and get your hat!" Party was a nice balanced : MNK, NIN, THF, RDM, BLM, WHM. We killed him very quickly and neatly with no trouble.
Moral of the story : sometimes less is more, especially when fighting a monster that spams AoE drains! (I'm sure many of you have seen similar mass deaths in Qufim when someone calls for help for a wight, only to have it surrounded by over-eager fighters who quickly give it the HP it needs.)
Gaudium - RDM71, Rank 9 Windurst
That was probably our downfall. Everyone mobbed Miser trying to kill him quickly, and he started spamming AoE drains. With that many melee folk surrounding him, he would recharge back up to full health over and over again. Add some unforutnate agro from nearby mobs, and we had ourselves a mostly dead alliance and no kill.
The second time I encountered Murphy was by accident. My static (all at 61) was en route to the Cloister of Ice to fight Shiva. We randomly ran into Murphy near the zone and my static was like, "Ooh! Let's fight it and get your hat!" Party was a nice balanced : MNK, NIN, THF, RDM, BLM, WHM. We killed him very quickly and neatly with no trouble.
Moral of the story : sometimes less is more, especially when fighting a monster that spams AoE drains! (I'm sure many of you have seen similar mass deaths in Qufim when someone calls for help for a wight, only to have it surrounded by over-eager fighters who quickly give it the HP it needs.)
Gaudium - RDM71, Rank 9 Windurst
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Just finished this quest yesterday with the help of some of my LS and friends of some friends, and after killing good ole Murphy here four times in a row( we had four rdms with us and that drop is not a key item) I can tell you about this NM. This thing is in someways even more tough that the statue NM, depending on much it likes to drain.(it took out our lv 74 blm/rdm with 2 hits and an drain aoe when he had stoneskin on). You can either drop this guy with a load of lv 55+ (like 2 party alliance) or a party of about 65+. A high lv paladin and blm is absolutely needed when fighting it(blm casting flare and the pld covering). Oh yeah, its not a forced pop, it spawns like a regular nm.I found this out the hard way when when everyone resting next to the fountain, it popped right on top of us. still killed it though :)
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How weird. PT of 6 tore him apart last night with Rdm tanking. I think the pt was 62/60/70/56 Rdm and then 60ish Drk and a 60ish War. I got in one Spirit's Within hit for 345 before he went down, though that might have been the secret- pt of rdms with 300% TP doing Spirit's all with Stoneskin and Phalanx up ^_^;;
myself (42 whm), a level 54 whm and a level 75 whm found him while we were gettign two key'schest for teleprot vhazl, he tore us a new a-hole -.-
This thing is incredible. I was farming there after helping someone with an AF. I see Miser Murphy, so I figure I'd see what he's made of. 72BST/36WHM. Call jug Courier Carrie(roughly 5000 HPs). Pet attack. Carrie's hitting him for roughly 60. Miser Murphy's hitting Carrie for around 50. So I join in. I'm hitting it for 30 or so.
Miser Murphy spams Ancient Magic like it's going out of style. Surprisingly Tornado has a 1 second cast time. I reward Carrie with pet food. Carrie is down to 50%. Miser Murphy is down to about 60%. Then things go bad. Within 5 seconds, Carrie is almost dead and Miser Murphy is back up to 80% HP. He turns to me, hits me twice, casts Ancient Magic and before I can figure out what's going on, I'm taking a dirt nap.
I scroll back to the logs. He hit me for 40 dmg, but the additional effect did 400+. Then of course the 1-sec Ancient Magic finished me off.
This is one tough SOB. You definitely need a NIN tank.
Miser Murphy spams Ancient Magic like it's going out of style. Surprisingly Tornado has a 1 second cast time. I reward Carrie with pet food. Carrie is down to 50%. Miser Murphy is down to about 60%. Then things go bad. Within 5 seconds, Carrie is almost dead and Miser Murphy is back up to 80% HP. He turns to me, hits me twice, casts Ancient Magic and before I can figure out what's going on, I'm taking a dirt nap.
I scroll back to the logs. He hit me for 40 dmg, but the additional effect did 400+. Then of course the 1-sec Ancient Magic finished me off.
This is one tough SOB. You definitely need a NIN tank.
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I scroll back to the logs. He hit me for 40 dmg, but the additional effect did 400+. Then of course the 1-sec Ancient Magic finished me off.
This is no exaggeration... His hits are very random but I saw a high of 580 "Additional Effect: Drain" damage. That just truly sucks.
best phrase in there was :
....thats moving stuff
i lauged so hard when i read that!
thank u for that breef molment of joy.....OFF TO TRY TO KILL HIM :P
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Miser Murphy spams Ancient Magic like it's going out of style.
....thats moving stuff
i lauged so hard when i read that!
thank u for that breef molment of joy.....OFF TO TRY TO KILL HIM :P
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This is gonna be interseting to see how it goes when i need to fight him for my AF hat. From all the posts in here, it sounds like he makes everyone his chew toy O_O. id like to see how this all works out in the end. If he does resist Dispel that well, i might try and bring a Brd for theyre version of Dispel. might have a different effect from a song then a spell, (just a theory ;p).
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