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Vana'diel Bestiary: Ash Dragon  

Family:Dragon
Found in:Ifrit's Cauldron
Found at Location:F - 8
Level:85
Grants Title:Dragon Asher
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  • Notorious Monster
  • Aggro
  • Not Linking
  • Detects by Low HP
  • Based on Dark
  • Weak against Light
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Updated: Fri Dec 28 10:26:12 2007

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Ash Dragon fight strategy
# Jul 01 2007 at 3:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Ive recently come back to FFXI since I was hacked, I started my friends 75NIN, problem was that the equipment isn't the greatest, anyway...

My linkshell has been fooling around in Ifrit's Cauldron lately and they decided they didn't want this NM alive anymore.

Attempt one: We got to the camp with me, 75nin/pld, a 75rdm/whm, 75brd/whm, 75drk/nin.

Cleared the area and the Bard pulled, I began to build hate using damage.
The Dark knight was the leader of our HNMLS and just happened to have insanely godly equipment and next to my sh*tty gear we were duo tanking. It was going well, at about 50% I took a double attack then breath and died, at this time we were sleeping 2 bomb aggros, they raised me and we held it till weakened was gone, then continued to attack. With four members this ted playing mywas a very long fight, unfortunately at 40% HP I was killed once again, and we held it again. When I was raised he used body slam and hit nearly everyone and we wiped.

With no mistakes he is very possible with 4 or even less people, although more would greatly help the bomb aggro problem.


Attempt two: This time we had the same set-up with the addition of a 75blm/whm.

Began fight same as last time(remember to bring tons of food as he dispels it very often but it's nearly a nessesity to be using it at all times for maximum damage potential) we got him to about 80% in 5 minutes this time, and he killed me with breath, this time the DRK was unable to hold him solo because of a tiny mistake and everyone except one person died, this person raised the DRK and then died. The DRK then, weakened, kited the Ash dragon around a lava pond for nearly 10 minutes while everyone got raised... then he died because of a random wyvern aggro... and we eventually wiped once more.

Although we were unable to defeat him this time, we learnt a lot and I hope you can learn using my information.


-Bard and Red mage combination greatly increases chance of survival
-Melee must have blink in some form, as his Body Slam Job ability will deal in excess to 1 000 damage if no shadows absorb damage
-Voidsong removes every buff on everyone within a large range and removes any debuffs currently on the Ash Dragon
-Not a lot of damage is required if you are prepared to fight for a very long period of time
-Not significantly immune to gravity or any other form of magic with the exception of sleep, neither Sleep nor Lullaby will effect this NM, although the bomb aggros are very succeptable to lullaby and will sleep without gaining a resistance for a reasonable length of time
-Be prepared to hold this mob, I highly recommend a secondary shield player or melee with NIN sub job to tank the NM if the main shield is killed, simply raise, and hold it without giving it TP for it's Body Slam ability and let the main shield recover, then resume
-Barfira does greatly reduce the damage dealt from the Flame Breath ability so in order to save MP, and possibly lives, attempt to keep this spell on at all times

Rewards:
Although I haven't yet defeated the Ash dragon...
-Dragon talon(100% of the time)
-Dragon blood
-Dragon scales
-Dragon heart
-Murasame(very low drop rate Great katana)
-And the wonderfully original title: Dragon Asher


Edited, Jul 1st 2007 8:08am by xspyrox

Edited, Jul 1st 2007 8:11am by xspyrox
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# Feb 19 2007 at 6:34 AM Rating: Decent
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My LS was doing ZM5 last night (I know, that's one of the only reasons anyone sees this monster -_-) and someone wanted to kill it. Everyone in our alliance, of 12, was 65+ with half being 75. Hesitantly, we all decided to give this guy a go.

It was horrendous...

I think we got it down to 90% health, but the puller managed to grab 3 bombs and had to be slept very often, as bombs seem to have a high magic resist (for me at least). The dragon used the Dispelga move twice and literaly a second later, our main NIN dies. Seconds after that our backup PLD/NIN dies. The only thing left for me to do was Escape. So 4/12 survived and took a decent amount of time from missions.

Nevertheless, it was pretty exciting to think we could kill this bastage and get some money out of it. :P
#Lushen, Posted: Jan 29 2007 at 10:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yea well... my friend trioed this bish... funny eh? THF,WHM,BRD i think it was... this is after he got his Mandau
Idiots.
# Aug 20 2006 at 11:29 PM Rating: Default
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Okay, most of you are idiots. "I ran by doing ZM blah blah blah Sneak Invis no aggro". YOU RAN BY, YOU DID NOT STAY INFRONT OF IT. ITS AGGRO DEPENDS ON THE DAY. I HAD A CHANCE TO PERSONALLY TEST IT MYSELF, WHICH I DID. Here was the result.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4259/ashdragonrf4.jpg

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# Oct 06 2006 at 7:33 PM Rating: Good
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Actually, you are wrong. Ash Dragon has true sight and true sound AT NIGHT TIME. I like how your post title is "Idiots" when YOU are the one giving out misinformation. Do yourself a favor and don't waste any more time "testing" anything else.
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# Oct 31 2006 at 8:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Garuda's right.... my LS did ZM5 run. ran past it first time during the day, no true sight or true sound aggro. they finished the run, went back past this as night fell, and got truesight/truesound aggro. so it's obviously a night thing for it. gotta love when ppl try to be Vyers, and scream at ppl for being wrong when they cant get their facts straight... and if i get flamed on this....i know vyers saw it...and i can laugh in his nubish face.
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# Jul 04 2006 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
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# Mar 20 2007 at 6:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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lol, yeah, I saw his video.

Very smart of him to think to use a knife that hits for 0, so that it doesnt feed the dragon any TP.
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# Jun 26 2006 at 12:23 PM Rating: Default
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the drops are crap? dragon talon is worth 4mil on cerberus... easy gil from this too weak *******
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Ash Dragon
# Jun 14 2006 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Went to farm for wyvern skull one day and this guy was there.

Didn't bother to make a big deal about it, as it drops crap anyway, which is why it was probably up.

However, there was only one wyvern up while Ash Dragon was up. No one else was there but me. So does Ash Dragon take like 5-6 wyvern's spawn places when it pops or something?
Ash Dragon
# Jul 05 2006 at 6:40 AM Rating: Decent
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nope there's only one wyvern poping where Ash pops too
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# Jun 13 2006 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Short version of the aggro situation:

Night: True Sight, possibly sound as well (can walk behind)
Day: Sound aggro

Can be killed with 7-8 people in about 50min-1hr with the right strategy. It not a difficult per se, but you have to watch how much TP you give him (I'll leave the rest up to you to figure out).

Incidentally, he's not undead and doesn't aggro on low HPs.

The bombs in question are Decent Challenge to a 75. These are easily killed by 1 or more BLMs w/o risk of Self Destruct.

As for drops, the Dragon Talon (BLM JSE body main synth) is 100%, which may explain any RMT taru LSs hording him. The Murasame seems pretty rare (haven't seen it in 10 or so kills).

Edited, Tue Jun 13 09:08:50 2006
easy ZM5 strat
# Apr 19 2006 at 12:39 PM Rating: Decent
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i hear alot of ppl still get trouble passing this guy on ZM5... easy strat i always use when helping is have a expericned BLM and WHM or w/e go thorugh IC and rest of PT stay at clif edge in jungle. ppl at cliff all trin mobs and succide then the goup that went in IC comes out and tractors and raise ppl up the clif. very minimal EXP loss over a potental diaster for those groups that dont feel confident going all together pas the dragon ( newbs .. j/k) hope this helps some
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# Mar 13 2006 at 8:22 AM Rating: Decent
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My LS got bored one day and attempted to kill this dragon. Not wise i warned, but hey! It was a fun exp. loss.... sigh
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he has true sight.
# Feb 22 2006 at 7:49 AM Rating: Decent
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he has true sight.


Saw that also doing ZM5.

Yay for Tractor and R3.
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# Apr 03 2006 at 3:01 PM Rating: Default
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doesn't have true sight, i ran past him sneak/invis at lvl 30 and he didn't give 2 *****.
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RE: he has true sight.
# May 12 2006 at 11:33 AM Rating: Decent
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You have to run directly in front of his line of sight for him to aggro. that's probably why he didnt aggro you.
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# Feb 18 2006 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
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he definitely doesn't aggro while in sneak, 8 of us passed the only one of us died cause he ran out of oils and he got blasted so we left him there and later tractored him, we had a laugh he took 3 hits, lol, but we did the rest of the zm successfully, lol what a trip through the Cauldron

Edited, Sat Feb 18 15:37:29 2006
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# Feb 16 2006 at 2:31 AM Rating: Decent
My Ls just tried Ash Dragon, and we got ^@#$ed. First bad thing was we had to wait like an hour becuase no one knew how to get there. We had 2 nins but one died becuase of Ash Dragon. So we raise them, then we pulled it. we were doing ok, but then a bomb poped, and thats when it got bad. It used Self-destruct and killed most of us. The mages that lived started rasing but then another bomb poped and killed them. We just werent ready for him. One thing that made me feel a bit better was another LS tried him, but they wiped also lol.
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# Feb 08 2006 at 5:19 PM Rating: Decent
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rdm soloing it, kinda bored to look at it XD but yeah nice achievement
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# Jan 18 2006 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Well since nobody has really posted their fight expierence /w this NM I thought I'd post our fight (which didn't go so well ><)

To start I'd say do not underestimate the Ash Dragon. We did and it was our downfall. We attempted to try and pull it back a bit to the zone tunnel - which we soon gave up on b/c it kept drawing the puller in over and over :S.

WS + Abilities I saw it use:

Voidsong: Used this frequently - mages must stand far away. It stripped up to 5 buffs from everyone in the alliance inculeding the WHMS reraise :(

Body Slam: I only saw it use this once, but it did heavy AOE damage to everyone (at least 1k to surrounding melees)

Flame Breath: Heavy fire damage. Undetermined if it was AOE or frontal cone damage. (it was facing the mages when it used it and we were pretty much instantly KOed.

Curse: Typical Black Dragon type WS. Is a real killer combined /w flame breath.

To concluede we found out why this HNM is always up >.>. Maybe one day we'll give it another shot.

Edited, Mon Mar 27 00:21:15 2006
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# Dec 21 2005 at 10:16 PM Rating: Decent
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roughly 72 hr repop
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Solo!
# Dec 15 2005 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
RE: Solo!
# Jun 10 2006 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
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i would like to know how he avoided the 6 or so bombs that pop in that room and didnt get magic agro. seems pretty much impossible and i dont really consider it solo if you have ppl killing adds for you. i watch that movie and did not see one bomb....
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# Mar 29 2007 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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i dont really consider it solo if you have ppl killing adds for you


Thats about stupid. If you kill a mob by yourself, you have killed it SOLO. If you kill the entire zone by yourself, then you have also solod the zone. Having peeps kep links off of you doesn't discount the fact the he killed the mob SOLO. Don't be a lame jealous fool. You start killing badass mobs solo then you can talk.
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# Apr 19 2006 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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great video. His gear looks tricked out and im sure maxed merits etc... is that AF2 hat he has on? cant make out the digets for his MP to see his refresh rate.
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# Aug 01 2006 at 1:18 AM Rating: Decent
I dont read JP but it looks like he's doing 0DMG with his sword and about 2-20DMG from his Enspell and u never see avesta do a weapon skill either-- which is why the Ash dragon never does a TP move since he's gaining none i guess. So basically he DoT'ed it to death. It looked like at times he got 10-30MP a tick?o.o
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RE: Solo!
# Feb 12 2006 at 9:37 PM Rating: Default
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Yes, he is soloable by a 75RDM/37NIN, but, not many would stand a chance, even being 75RDM/37NIN, you would need a lot of gear and items that I'm not going to go into :-P

Avesta also solo'd KSNM "Operation Desert Swarm" as blackmage I believe.

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RE: Solo!
# Dec 23 2005 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
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this is impressive. i started rdm about 3 weeks ago to be my main job and this is why i chose to do so.. because of the versatility depending on the situation and sub

Edited, Fri Dec 23 16:38:15 2005
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# Oct 27 2005 at 10:05 PM Rating: Decent
my party for ZM5 and i were walking past this as another party was fighting it and all of a sudden, all of our hp go to 0. i was stunned for a second trying to figure out what happend. then i read the chat log and i saw that everyone took 1100+ dmg from his fire ws or w/e it was called. I had filters on but i still saw all of our dmg. About 30 min later, its still not dead and my party and i are waiting for them to kill it so we could get raise 3's. Well, we see the nin tank fall, then, it went after the mages. But it didn't move alot or i just didn't see it moving since i was sorta of far away from it. But anyways, the rest of the mages dropped and good thing one blm casted bio2 on it. i think thats what killed it since it was so close to being dead. luckily the whm survived and it took a few mins for her to raise all of her party memebers and then i got raise 3from another whm in their party. MAJOR delay but i have my fire fragment now and i'm happy ^^ only need wind, ice, and earth now.

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# Sep 24 2005 at 11:29 PM Rating: Decent
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I have no doubt that he is TRUE sight or at least aggros sneak and he does "Pull" you in.. if he sees/hears you! I have to say ZM5 isn't hard until you have to get passed this guy >.<!
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# Sep 27 2005 at 8:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Hellz yeah Zm5 was goin all good until we ran into this guy the worst part was raisin all the dead with those bombs everywhere
Indeed he has true sight and aggros sneak
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# Oct 04 2005 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
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he has true sight, and i believe true sound as well... but only at night, so sneak/invis during the day and... well, good luck during the night, this guy made me hate zm5... cuz i had to raise everyone -.-
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# Oct 18 2005 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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This is no doubts sound aggro too. I had invis on and ran behind it just after it turned. It went straight for me and raped over half the alliance that also were invis only even though they ran behind it.
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# Aug 24 2005 at 3:58 PM Rating: Decent
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There's a lot of controversy posted here on Alla and other forums about whether or not this guy has true sight, and if maybe it's at night only. It's also unclear exactly WHAT he aggro's to, since it almost appears to be random. Also, it's speculated that he "blood aggro's", in other words, aggro's to Low HP, similar to what you get from any undead, even though he's not undead.

About the only thing I've seen regarding this beast that IS agreed on is that you can't run away from him if he DOES aggro you ... he "sucks you in". Best advice I've seen on this beast is to hug a wall as far away from him as you can get, and make sure he's facing the other way. It's really not worth dying so close to your goal of completing ZM5.

And, now that I've researched the mobs in Ifrit's Cauldron a bit, I'm beginning to wonder if maybe, just maybe, the reason for all this confusion and seeming randomness is ... Deodorize. Not once in any of the posts advising how to do ZM5 has ANYONE mentioned using Deoderize of any kind. Well guess what, there are at least 3 types of Goblins in Ifrit's that only detect AND aggro by SCENT!! At least, according to the Beastiary. And, it's not just Allakhazam's Beastiary. I'm not sure, but I strongly suspect they got their info directly from SE.

Detect and aggro by Scent (yes, SCENT!)
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# Aug 27 2005 at 6:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I've led alot of groups through ZM5 and honestly doesn't matter what he aggros to best to put both sneak/invis up (though been alittle bit since I've been there) but I think there are also bats in that room but I think he is both. I can tell you this guy is 1. annoying and 2. loses his True sight with the day and gains it at night. I've tried to run past him at night and get aggro during the day your good.

Now fighting this thing is annoying. This thing has a crazy AoE Dispelling move that removed just about every buff I had on me... I figured he would be like the dragons from Dynamis runs only bad things they do is that AoE jump move and breaths but no he has a AoE dispeling and I believe a AoE cursing move don't remember exactly but I sure as **** know he curses you.
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# Aug 24 2005 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
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No, they detect and aggro by sight, they track you by scent, don't always believe alla, go test it for yourself if you must, but trust me, those goblins are sight.

As for ash dragon, He's sight for sure, he has a very narrow field of vision like most of the NM dragons do, and He does have true sight, go play with him too if you don't believe me.
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# Sep 14 2005 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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No he is not true sight I stood in his face with Sneak+Invis up w/o aggro Not sure if its sight or sound though...
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# Sep 19 2005 at 2:39 AM Rating: Good
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And my ZM5 run we ran behind it with sneak and invis up but he turned (unluckily) and started to feed on the 64(?) SAM.

He does have true sight. I didn't pay 100% attention to time, I know we started at 17:00 ingame time, but don't know if we didn't pass it until 18:00 and if it is by then he would gain true sight.

Of course I wasn't the SAM so he *could* have been running without sneak and getting aggro.

The only thing safe to do is keep both up and run behind it, and as I said, not even that seem to be 100% safe.
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Just been reading the other posts about agro and being drawn in etc...

My experiance, During ZM5

I had not looked up the dragon and was told and assumed it was just True Sight.
So I had Invis up and ran past him when he had his back turned, as did 12 other people.

So from this we can assume he dosent agro sound at least.
You can almost guarentee him to be true sight, and will draw in when you are just within visual range so u must be careful not to run to close before he has his back turned.

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# Jul 22 2005 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Was in mid ZM-5 trying to run behind him sneaked and, invisd. He turned around and beat me to a pulp in one hit.
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I just did zm5. Had sneak and vis on. Did NOT aggro. Went up to it and slapped it.
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ne1 knows about the respawn time?
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I had invis on. It attacked me for 0 reason. I was just looking for Hurricane Wyverns for my item for Opo-opo crown and this monster killed me. Later it sucked in a RDM from my alliance from far away for "no reason." It either aggro's or PMS's really bad.
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# Jun 23 2005 at 9:57 PM Rating: Decent
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anyone made a strat for this?
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i know theres alot of talk about what this guy agros too... ive heard it agros at night. has true sight. etc etc. well i was just mining here, get to his room to check the point there. as im leaving he agroed from across the room (: was not night time, and i had invis on. so definatly true sight onry. i dont know about the undead thing, but you can easily see that the reason ppl are able to stand next to it is cause... well its true sight.. you have to be infront of it. simply put. give me a screen shot of someone standing directly infront of the ******* during the day or somthin and no agro? then ill believe it ;p
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no offense, I think drg's are cool and fine for exp pties and solo.. But probably are the least useful of all jobs for endgame HNM and gods. Main reason is they cant stun, tank, or use a ranged weapon.. thf/rng (culverin owns), mnk/whm (chi), sam/rng...
Undead
# Jun 03 2005 at 2:49 PM Rating: Default
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Remember, this mob is an undead mob. This means he will aggro to yellow HP. He was not there when I did ZM5. Instead, there was a hurricane wyvern.
night agro false
# Jun 03 2005 at 4:00 AM Rating: Decent
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while on way through here for a zm5 mission we got agro with sneak invis up. it was about 7 gametime, well within the daytime hours.

Edited, Fri Jun 3 05:02:35 2005
Ash Dragon
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Who has guts enough to test this? Ash Dragon only have truesight at night is what Im told.
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This whole true sight debate has kinda got me interested. I agree with the earlier poster who said that some special aggro conditions seem to exist.

I have never been aggro'd by this dragon and have passed across his line of sight with sneak and invis on. However, a blm in a party I was leading through here got munched and he was positive that he had sneak and invis on. I'll probably do some testing on this if I'm in the area and my 2hr is up, kinda curious.

The possibility of a time conditional true sight sounds interesting. And my personal theory (far fetched as it may be) is that if you go close to him there is a chance of one of your buffs (sneak) being dispelled. Although this screenie doesn't seem to support that ;;

Chillin with Ash.

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# May 17 2005 at 3:53 AM Rating: Good
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This nm isnt too hard. A blink tank is suggested. I tanked it fine as a 75 thf/nin.

Voidsong - Dispelga, removes buffs, shadows and food. Oh and it also does Cursega, so everyone around it will be cursed. Tank should be immediatly given cursan and a cure. Once Voidsong is used, he should be stunned so shadow can be put back up.

Fire Breath - 100-400, so Ash Dragon should be turned away from mages.

Addson - Meele should build TP on addons and use on Ash Dragon. IT might be a good idea to let a blink tank solo tank it while meele build TP on addons. This will give less TP too ash dragon.

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he kill me too couple time ; ;
It is true hearing/sight
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PLEASE BE WARNED...This mob is definitely true hearing/sight. Our 75PLD helping on ZM5 run decided to test the theory and as soon as he was in the range of this mob he was "Drawn in". This happened to 4 more alliance members as they tried to pass. All of which were sneaked and invisible. His range isn't very large, but as soon as you cross that threshold, you will be drawn in and taken down fast. He took our PLD out in about 10 hits, and the 71DRK in 3-4 hits with a critical for 486, not pretty....but pretty funny.

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# May 03 2005 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
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this guy 2 hit me when sneak wore off right behind him while i was doing ZM5
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He is not true sight. However he DOES aggro *LOW HP* like undead do and sound...and I think he has special aggro maybe if you walk directly behind him? Not sure about that one...But yeah...all of us walked right past him with sneak on no problem.
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Was with Speerit (speeritcarby). This Dragoon. Wasn't very difficult, more of a pain in the ***, when he dispelled everyone, over and over again. The Cursna wasn't to hard, to deal with, just Cursna'ed the main tank and CureV.

Meh, took longer getting everyone there than actually killing him.
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This dragon is very, very difficult.

First off, i do beleve he has a large HP regen rate.

He uses AoE dispel which removes ALL buffs(if i remember correctly).

He uses a TP move called "Body Slam" which has about a 3 second charge time(i.e. impossible to stun) Kills unbuffed mages instantly - absorbed by 2 shadows.

He is in a room with 4 bombs and 1 wyvern, the 2 tunnels to the side each have 2 bombs.

He hits HARD and FAST.

Strategy:

Do NOT have anyone without blink melee him... rangers stay back, everyone stay back.

Have AT LEAST 2 PT 70+ of the right jobs fighting him and at least 1 PT with good stunners killing bomb links <-- VERY important

His accuracy isnt too great... our 75thf/nin had fun being the last person alive... about 50% accuracy.(no mambo no blind etc.)

If you're a melee without blinks you're probably better off killing bomb links

He has lots of HP - i'd say about 65k ?

After our LS' encounter with him... well...

We call it ash's lair from now on.
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He's not that bad with the right setup. We had a ninja tank and if you have good whm's ready with cursna and rebuffing/healing what he dispels, he's not bad. What had a pld pull the bomb adds away from the dragon way back behind us and the blm manaburned them while we took out the dragon so they wouldn't explode and near us and kill us all.

Full alliance with no crowd control party and we took him down in about 20-25 minutes. I don't think he has regen at all...probably around 60-65k hp or so. It's alot better to use a ninja tank for him with double mambo from a bard + haste. The AOE curse can be avoided by mages and rng by sitting back in the tunnel a little away from him while the tank is the only one that gets cursed...maybe the bard. Body slam was doing about 4-600 dmg to our NIN tank. But YES his WS CAN be stunned. Our BLM are pros like that.

Wouldn't recommend using much other melee on him other than a coouple of tanks. They would sponge too much MP from the WHM's. RNG, a tank or two, and some mages nuking works fine. Melee can also do this if you have them there...Melee the bomb adds and go and WS only on the dragon. That works good. Dropped a dragon talon only first kill. Meh. 36-43 exp for full alliance and like 220 or so gil and a cool title. Killed him 3 times now. Also drops dragon scales, Murasame (haven't got this drop yet) and Dragon Talon for sure. We have not had a heart or blood drop yet.

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You could also use any smn's u have to pull out the bombs and kill them off the same way that smn's always solo bombs.
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This dragon aggros sound, and only sound. Toss up a sneak and you'll be fine. well...you'll need sneak + invis for the bombs and wyverns in the area, so use both.
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Also aggros low HP like I said in the above post. He's not undead necessarily because you can aspir and drain him, but aggros the same as undead.
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I think I figured out the deal with Ash Dragon's aggro method, actually.

An expirienced IC miner told me it only has true sight at night. It would explain the "I DANCED ON IT'S FACE" storied versus the "Killed me in two hits while invisble" stories.

I suppose I should test it, though. That'll be productive. -.-;
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Doing ZM5 with Linkshell, going though to get to the monument on the other side. This guy is up, which is a real pain. We get close and he turns around, we all know he is true sight, so we run past him keeping as close to the wall as possible. However, one RDM ran right in front of him (I think, didn't see) two hits and he was down. Worst part though, he died in the only place he could not be raised as there were bombs to close ><.
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Again, as it's been said many times, the Ash Dragon is NOT TRUE SIGHT. On my ZM5 run I ran in front of this dragon with Sneak and Invis up and lived to tell the tale, and so did 17 other friends, linkshell members, and random pickups.

NOT TRUE SIGHT.

Still, it would be wise to keep your distance anyway. Making him mad in any way is a good way to get yourself owned, and you're so dang close to the end too!
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edit- nvm

Edited, Tue Mar 29 05:20:10 2005
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Killed this yesterday, we had 15 people and used a war/nin and pld tank. My ls was bored so we decided to try something new, it took us two tries to win.
Our first try, we got wiped as its nasty aoe and a bomb exploding on us eventually was just too much for us to handle.

Our second attempt we used better placement and were able to win fairly easily, although this probably would've been better with a ninja tank. Dropped only the dragon talon.

P.S. THIS IS NOT TRUE SIGHT. Use sneak and invis and it will NOT aggro. I did this and danced around it and survived.
Haha..WRONG
# Feb 05 2005 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
Wyvern's ignore defense and hit for 30-45 damage every 3 seconds which is more than any melee does to an HNM.
Dragoon with AF helm and +wyvern HP gear can backup heal and spam Cure IV heal breaths for 7 MP and throw a few curaga II +divine seal bombs and super jump hate.

Lets also not forget that a SATA wheeling thrust ignores defense and with +25-30 STR can do 600-700.

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Quote:
Wyvern's ignore defense and hit for 30-45 damage every 3 seconds which is more than any melee does to an HNM.


>.>

Samurai can do 1000+ damage to the HNM wyrms (excluding Vtra, haven't seen any screenshots against Vtra) with 300TP and SATA, there are screen shots out there of it.

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RE: Haha..WRONG
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Um... actually he is right moron (well... mostly)... Try actually doing some research before telling us DRG about our job.

Pet Wyverns DO ignore defence.

Pet Wyverns DO attack fast.

DRG ARE amazing backup healers.

They CAN heal for 300 to 400+ for 6MP and nearly zero hate using their Wyverns.

They CAN Super Jump hate away.

Weeling Thrust DOES ignore defence.


I know no DRG will be tanking HNM Dragons/Wyverns anytime soon... but they can get a potential of -33% Breathe Damage with HQ gear (26% with NQ gear), have Dragon Killer, and Ancient Circle, which would be nice for soloing some of the lower level, normal mob type Dragons/Wyverns.

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#speeritcarby, Posted: Apr 30 2005 at 6:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hate to burst your bubble, but no DRG is going to be soloing Hurricane or Typhoon Wyverns any time soon. There are really no other "lower level" wyvern/wyrm type mob except for shadow dragon in Xarcabard which is lvl 50ish if that. The rest of the "lower level" wyverns are around lvl 77-80. Those mobs are only soloable by RDM/NIN (I have done it), NIN/WHM and maybe an UBER WHM/NIN like this guy I know named Lyramion who has a Kraken Club and fully merited club skill.
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shouldnt flame the drg job.. thf's suck also unless they have great gear. i see sharkbite do 300-400 more then i see it do 700-800. i see drk's do 500-600 only alot =/ does anybody know how often this thing drops dragon talon?
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#merpes, Posted: Jan 30 2005 at 1:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) End game is level 75. Lvl 50 has 0 to do with endgame whatsoever. Despite being famed dragon killers, dragoons do jack in an end game HNM/god fight. DRKs have stun and SATA 300% Cross Reaper. Samurai have Meditate and their 2 hr. Warriors can kite and sometimes blink tank. Thiefs have the yummy TH2(or higher). Rangers - always rock. But DRGs... have nothing. You build TP to 300% before fight on a sword, use spirits within at start then sit out for rest of fight. That's it. They are fine in exp parties, but if you ARE looking to end game, DRG is useless.
#Imonesexybeast, Posted: Jan 24 2005 at 5:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) http://www.crashpattern.com/darknight420.html
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