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Vana'diel Bestiary: Roc  

Family:Greater Bird
Found in:Sauromugue Champaign
Job:White Mage
Secondary Job:Bard
Level:65
Grants Title:Roc Star
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  • Notorious Monster
  • Aggro
  • Not Linking
  • Based on Light
  • Weak against Ice
  • Strong against Wind
Drops:
Updated: Sun Nov 9 01:37:05 2008

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Roc in Sauromugue Champaign

Roc's Spawn Location
Roc's Spawn Location

    • Alternate method: Using the Cavernous Maw at (J-10) in Sauromugue Champaign (S) will teleport you to the maw in the present, which is located on the cliff near Roc's spawn point. This will require traveling through Garlaige Citadel (S), but this can be done solo, as opposed to needing three other individuals for Garlaige Citadel in the present.

  • Respawn is 21-24 hours after its last ToD.

  • Has a draw-in effect.

  • Will "Rage" twenty minutes after it is first engaged unless it is killed first or all players with hate are killed or leave the zone and Roc's hp regenerates.

  • Grants title: Roc Star

Roc Special Attacks

  • Feather Barrier: Self target Evasion boost. (Effect can be dispelled).

  • Scratch: Single target physical attack with additional Blind effect.

  • Triple Attack: Single target three hit physical attack.

  • Gliding Spike: Single target physical damage with additional Knockback effect.

  • Stormwind: AoE Wind based magic damage (Circle of effect originates from mob).

  • Massacre Elegy: Single target Elegy effect.

  • Horde Lullaby: AoE Sleep effect. (Circle of effect originates from spell target).

  • Benediction: Massive hp recovery and removal of status ailments.

    • Denoted by the characteristic mob two-hour animation.

Historical Information

The Roc, in Persian mythology, was a gargantuan white feathered bird of prey, with the size and strength needed to be able to carry off and consume elephants. It has been linked at times to another mythological bird, the Persian Simurgh.

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# Mar 18 2009 at 2:45 PM Rating: Good
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Just need to vent. Been fighting on and off for about 6 months maybe more.

Went 1/11 on staff - let a higher lvl WHM have it. Next one was mine!

0/21 on staff as of today -.-


0/23 now ; ;

1/25 - just got it today. I guess follow up then:

I've gone 2/36 total for the staff. 1/36 for the ingot. However my LS killed it for me at least another 15 times keeping ToD and for other LS members. None of those times did the staff or ingot drop. So its more like

2/51 staff, 1/51 ingot. And about 80% of those kills were with 75THF

crazy.

Edited, Sep 5th 2009 4:07pm by rikkuotaku
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# Feb 13 2008 at 9:13 PM Rating: Decent
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i am watching this ROC standing of me right now. But don't want to get killed as I will be de-leveled. =*(
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Solo'd
# Jan 25 2008 at 7:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Just watched a a Drg/Blu solo this. Name is Zenon on Pandy server! Way to go!
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ROC STAR
# Apr 04 2007 at 4:46 AM Rating: Decent
Beat this bird the other night. We weren't actually planning on it at all. It was me 75PLD and my other LS mates helping the 50DRK get her Bomb Coral for LB1. So we couldn't get out of Garliage through the gate since no one was on the other side. So I told them I know the back way to get out. We get out through Garliage and into Sauromugue Champaign and were going to make our way back to Jeuno, when we saw this guy just wondering around. We didn't by any means have the right people to kill so we sounded the alarm on the LS to get anyon who was on to Sauromugue Champaign right away. It was me the 75PLD, 75DRK, 75MNK, 72SAM, 66WHM, 60DRK, 56PLD, and the 50DRK. So we were doing really well against him and about 5mins into the fight he used Benediction. We were all like "WTF" Smiley: yikes I was praying that he didn't do that again. As the fight went on I couldn't keep this beast off of the MNK or DRK so I just mainly healed and Covered people when it was up. When the bird was down to about 25% health the MNK used hundred fists and went awol on him, I used invincible when she did that so I could keep him focused on me.

All in all we smoked the bird and got some **** drop, looks like others have been getting the samethings (reraiser, vile elixir, and crimson blade). But the cool part was that now we are ROC STARS!!!!


O and good thing I said to take the back way or we never would have even seen this thing lol.




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Roc...
# Mar 23 2007 at 4:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Stupid bird is mocking us... We killed him 3 times, the past 3 days, and got exactly the same drops each time*... Still no Staff for our WHM~ >.<

(* Reraiser, Vile Elixir, Crimson Blade)

Edit: 0/6

Though on the 5th kill we got something new <.<
We're now
Reraise x6
Vile elixir x6
Crimson Sword x6
Damascus Ingot x1
Dryad Staff x0 ...

Edited, Mar 23rd 2007 8:22am by Livsenjel

Edited, Mar 23rd 2007 5:15pm by Livsenjel

Edited, Mar 25th 2007 8:26am by Livsenjel

Edited, Mar 25th 2007 1:50pm by Livsenjel
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# Sep 10 2006 at 3:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Does anyone know if I can take on this bird at lvl 52war/nin with a lvl 55mnk? i need the ingot to make the hauby.


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Lvl to beat
# Jul 18 2006 at 9:46 PM Rating: Decent
Does anyone know if I can take on this bird at lvl 52war/nin with a lvl 55mnk? i need the ingot to make the hauby.
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Lvl to beat
# Aug 07 2006 at 6:06 AM Rating: Decent
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i doubt it bro, im not sure on the levels and thier not always right but i read somewhere else that its a level 55 mob. but it can be killed by 12 lv 60s, or 6 lv 75s:

  • Spawns around I-10 from the back exit of Garlaige Citadel approximately every 21-24 hours.
  • and uses special attacks: Benediction



Edited, Aug 7th 2006 at 7:17am EDT by Ryusuko
Lvl to beat
# Jul 03 2007 at 10:36 PM Rating: Decent
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i killed with 166sam 1 55blm/rdm 1 75pld and 1 70brd
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But can he be slept?
# Jul 01 2006 at 4:48 AM Rating: Decent
Just wondering if the great ROC can be slept. Thanks
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d/c at Roc
# May 07 2006 at 11:29 AM Rating: Default
I had a group of people that werent doin anything...so my friend said hey Roc's tod is up...so we ran over there.
We get to spot and we got about a small alliance..and some of the Angles rollin wit us..
were camping and I start walkin around in circles around the area and I stop and just stay in a spot...next thing I know I d/c..I am like uhoh...
I relog back on and its quiet and empty...im like wtf..look to the right and my group is slappin it.I was like woot invite me back...at first they wouldnt becuz they had full party becuz my party got filled in so I joined the team that Angleguo was in..he was a nin lvl75 that was tanking very well..him and one of the blm angles...we beat it wit no prolems..no drop HNM's never drop when I am fightin them!
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# Apr 28 2006 at 5:32 PM Rating: Default
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"yea, i had my HNMLS ASURA VRTRAATLAST out there fighting, **** Bene'd for 21k and went into hard made and kicked our asses, we had 16 ppl out there. 65+ no healers, lol, maybe that was our mistake XD "

thats horribly sad

3-6 levle 75 without a healer can kill this

u had 18...
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# Jul 11 2006 at 1:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Roc was raged, according to that post. Good game dumbass.
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Roc in not "that" hard.
# Apr 17 2006 at 12:29 PM Rating: Default
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I did this fight with 2 PLD 70 ish 1 THF75 1 WHM 71 1 BLM 70 ish and me WAR72 with NIN sub-job.

Was not that hard a fight but I got killed because of too much hate. Rampage did roughtly 800 damage and axe swing about 70 ish. I got raised before he was down and engaged fight again and did the final blow.

LOL funny actually I did same thing on Serket (the final blow thing) so have now both titles.
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# Mar 01 2006 at 7:35 PM Rating: Decent
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yea, i had my HNMLS ASURA VRTRAATLAST out there fighting, **** Bene'd for 21k and went into hard made and kicked our asses, we had 16 ppl out there. 65+ no healers, lol, maybe that was our mistake XD
HNM "super-power mode"
# Nov 17 2005 at 12:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I've noticed a couple of people mentioning a "super-powered mode" that roc suddenly went into after a time. After quitting the game for a year or so, I came back and was talking to a friend. He said that SE had implemented a stronger mode that HNMs(normal ones, not Kirin and stuff) would go into after a certain period (usually 30 mins-1 hr), to prevent extended "time-killing claims". Can anyone confirm this? I'm sorry if this has already been discussed and im acting like a n00b, like i said, its been awhile since I've played, just tryin to catch up.
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HNM "super-power mode"
# Aug 15 2006 at 9:57 PM Rating: Decent
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The H in HNM stands for Hyper. If the mob is a HNM it has a Hyper mode that it goes into after a exteneded period of time.
HNM "super-power mode"
# Apr 05 2007 at 3:35 AM Rating: Decent
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They were called HNM's long before rage-mode was added, and afaik, even now not all HNM's have a rage-mode. Lumber Jack for instance is an HNM with no rage-mode timer, iirc.
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# Dec 25 2005 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
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If you grab a mob and don't attack it, it'll slowly get stronger until it's insanely tough. This was partially done to fight fishing bots, and partially so people wouldn't grab a heavily camped NM and hog it just to be mean.
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# Sep 17 2005 at 3:07 PM Rating: Default
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Ok so were campn the NM with my LS no tank.
Its us RMT and A brd whm n Nin trying to trio it. pops the trio getm. I have to say that was one talented nin. He took Roc rfom full to 3/4. In about 20min. Then his other LS mates came out to help. They came and began fighting. They took his HP down to 1/3 then he went INSANE the Blm Blizzardaga3 did only 50dmg the melee hit ~10. Then NIN shadows fell Roc gotm with a Double attack hitm 600 and 550 and tank dead. Then he moves on other Nin. Gets a criticle for 900dmg then does lulluby hitsm agian both takns dead. Now unclaim I cast dia hits me 700. Tank vokes we beigin fighting b/c we thought his Bersker mode resets after hes unclaied. 72 Samarui TAchiKasha 30Dmg to him... We commenced to get raped and zone. Then RMT finish him off ><.
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# Sep 14 2005 at 2:44 PM Rating: Default
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We are fighting right now, all I have to say is kill him fast because Super Sayan mode = 500 a hit we hit for 10-20.
# Sep 11 2005 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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He's a HNM That means he's incredibly tough to beat compaired to other notorious monsters... the great bird class is already hard to fight.... but this bird is really tough specially if he has powered up .. the staff is incredibly rare drop ... but the blade drops almost every time
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# Sep 06 2005 at 10:08 PM Rating: Decent
What is the respawn time for Roc?
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# Aug 31 2005 at 1:20 PM Rating: Decent
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This **** bird **** me off for the last time... My LS has killed him 6 times with a healing staff drop... we got D ignot once but beyond that.. nothin... the drop rate for the healing staff sux...

Edit: just so everyone knows... we had 4 thfs on the last 1... all 65+ and 1 with a thf's knife...
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main drops...
# Jul 05 2005 at 9:41 PM Rating: Decent
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what are his main drops?like the ones ppl ame to get
RE: main drops...
# Aug 14 2005 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Healing Staff
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# Jun 27 2005 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't get it...the listing says he is level 55, yet many of the entries here say that it's a tough battle with a party of lvl 70's.

{I don't understand}

Is he or is he not level 55?
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# Jul 14 2005 at 6:37 PM Rating: Good
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Alot of NM's have Stats considerably higher then a normal monster of the same lvl. For instance, Roc here is a lvl 55 Greater Bird in that he will give EXP to a party as though he was a normal lvl 55 enemy. However, his STR/VIT/HP/MP etc are considerably higher then a normal lvl 55 enemy and thus making him much harder to kill.
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#jumpjunk, Posted: May 29 2005 at 5:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i know this is a long shot but any chance some one can give me a TOD for this guy on odin server????
Roc
# May 20 2005 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
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my ls took Roc down three times last week. he is not very hard. he will bene everytime healing an average of 17k exp(most ive seen is 21k). out of the three times we fought him, the healing staff(worth 3 mil on bahamut) dropped once
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# May 09 2005 at 6:12 AM Rating: Decent
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this is just funny in my opinion. . . I get a pt invite, ok no worries I think. we head off on our chocobo's (pt of about lvl 66-68?) we are all scattared on our own path.

"Roc sighted!" . . .
"Its a NM. . should we kill it". . .
"Its lvl 55 I think" .. .
(I look it up online as I'm hearing this). .

Due to the lack of knowledge of my pt of this NM . . I will not reveal their names due to I'm not trying to make fun of them. but as soon as I come back to FFXI screen . .

"Dude NO!" . . .
(I come close enough to see 2 of them running away and I'm still on choco)
**** . ."
"Why didn't you wait for the pt?"
"you said it was lvl 55"

. . . PT disbands

<lvl 70+ rng with uber gear attacks it> <dead>
<lvl65+ ninja attacks it> <dead>
. . (there is about 12 more people) it was a mass death pool, kinda funny no?
roc is a bastard
# Apr 24 2005 at 1:25 AM Rating: Decent
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My linkshell was going to go open the banishing gate for lower level AF so our 75s were all level 50s getting there AF thats when i hear Rocs up Rocs up so me and my whitemage friend told them to bring it down by the time the got it down the cliff they were all dead... finally I arrived 67 rdm i was about to start fighting when a PLD 75 saw me comin he provokes gettin hit hard uses 2hr dies i laughed and tryed sleepin resits 4 times with chainspell i die delvl finallly a ninja came to get him ... while they were fighting my linkshell went to go camp serket... serket popped the searches were down so me and my whitemage had outside cure my linkshell kills him and we got both drops claw & ring my whitemage throws an alliance invite the party leader accepted and both drops were lost 11,000,000 gone ;;

Edited, Sun Apr 24 02:26:48 2005
RE: roc is a bastard
# Aug 31 2005 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
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omg... thats gotta suck..... /point /laugh
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I kill Roc...a Roc kill me..Roc is not friendry..
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# Apr 13 2005 at 4:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Hehe, I have to go kill this guy just for title sometime. True, it`ll be a while...50 lvls, give or take.
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# Apr 12 2005 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Our LS just took Roc down this morning. We hurried it and were disorganized (we got it better towards the end), and still kicked its ass. No good drops though :\ (It used Bene once during the fight, and I dont see anyone else sayiong this, but it is a BRD type mob (We got Foe lullaby all the freaking time ><) Anyway, congratulations to The Rune LS of Ramuh, (good job!) (~.0)b
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Fried Chicken
# Mar 28 2005 at 11:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Fought him 2 days in a row now. Roc is a pansy. We killed him with 10 people both times. 1st time, party was between 60-73, and the 2nd time we had some 75s. There's 2 real hard parts 2 him - 1.) He has very high evasion, and 2.) he uses Benediction and recovers full HP near death. 1st day, he used Bene at 45-50% HP, this morning he used it around 25-30% HP which was really annoying. Both times recovered 100% HP. I can't really advise what to avoid since I never really got hate. I just kept my shadows up which absorbed most of his AoEs. He does a scream attack which is more-or-less Sleepga, putting everyone in the area to sleep. Just have a mage cast cure to wake you up. My best advice - have lots of ACC+ equipment (or RACC if you're RNG) and foods. That'll help things go faster. My sidewinder only hit once at the very begging of the fight, with 300% TP and Sharpshot active (No PPA Arrow). Also, fight it at the zone. When mages get hate, zone hate, have tank voke, then come back out. We did that for the second battle and things went a lot smoother. Killed him in roughly 15 minutes the first time, and 9-10 this morning. Anywho, got drop on 2nd kill. Healing Staff, no Damascus Ingot. Here's a couple screens from our fights (I have about 10-15 more pics if you care to see them. These are just my favs.):

http://img161.exs.cx/img161/2811/sou050328065704a4ly.jpg
http://img202.exs.cx/img202/2055/sou050327073625a3uj.jpg
http://img162.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img162&image=drop0038hp.jpg

Edited, Mon Mar 28 23:28:09 2005
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Looks like you held a camera to the screen lol >.<

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Probably cause he did XD
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# Mar 15 2005 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
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My ls went through garlage to get the stone tablet for the selbina clay quest. When we made it outside Roc was there and we knew he was only a lvl 55. What we didnt know is that he is a HNM :( So with me a 43 Mnk a 46 Rdm a 50 War/Mnk a 55 War/Nin a 57 Whm and a 60 Blm we jumped this guy. The whm was the first to die and it didnt take long. The rest of us were rarely hitting it and doing almost no damage. The only noticeable damage was from the Blm but we made him zone after his second spell so he could come out and raise us (we didnt get the tablet yet) after we all died horribly. We are all going back after we are 65+ to get our revenge.

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# Jan 28 2005 at 6:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Funny story actually (happened no more than a few minutes ago)

Me and my LS went to go fight Roc.

We enter Garliage and in the first room behind the first banishing gate, we see Old Two-eyes. Wow a NM already! We fought it quickly, but alas there was no drop.

We take a right and Skewer Sam was right there in our faces. We kill him, but no drop.

We make it out and Roc is sitting there just for us. We claim and after a long battle, we kill him. We got no good drops hahahah. Bad night.
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Video of Fight
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http://TheBlackRoses-LS.com

Well just posted our last HNM fight today for that want want to see it die check us out.

The Clip is the last few min of the fight, we first started with 6 ppl the 2nd pt came when i started this clip =P so its really easy win just take your time.

All our Videos in Divx format so please D/L each video and update your Player =P hope you like it.

Edited, Wed Jan 26 00:19:03 2005
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RE: Video of Fight
# Jan 27 2005 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Heh CP, can't view video without registering or see the link to the video library anyway. Oo
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oh **** thanks for the heads up going to try and fix that so non registered ppl can see videos =P
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RE: Video of Fight
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Just noticed your sig says BlackRoses Started 12/25/2005<p> Just figured you might want to know ^^
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# Dec 29 2004 at 4:45 PM Rating: Decent
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me and my LS killed Roc a few times this week, not too hard of a fight, had enough people there so no deaths. HNM? yes, but not like the others
RE: roc
# Dec 30 2004 at 12:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Do you know its spawn rate, is it ramdom??
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# Dec 10 2004 at 6:08 AM Rating: Good
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Grants title: Roc Star

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gratz
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# Dec 06 2004 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I have fought it a few times and its is easy. I have done it with 6 people 70+ and Horde lul. is easy cause you can Silence it. and the Roc doesnt have 60k hp. It only has like 35k total. Cause I have seen when it uses Benedection it always heals a bit over 15k hp and it will only have like 5k left.
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# Dec 03 2004 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
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This annoying HNM also drops reraiser potion, and 2 more items I forget the name on. ><
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# Dec 02 2004 at 11:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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yes, it does spawn outside of the citadel in an area where you must go through the citadel first.

it is a 21-24 hour spawn

damascus ingot drops and healing staff drops are extremely rare.

this fight isnt very easy.. even if you have 70+
he has high evasion, defense, and he can be nasty with the bard songs... dont take him lightly because he is level 55.. at the time i fought him i was 61 and i barely hit him with +28 accuracy.

make sure your rdm's dispel his evasion bonus, and be prepared for curaga on horde lullaby. Bring more than one tank, he hits decently fast and he hits **** hard.. i pulled him and i died with defense gear, and defender on within 6-7 hits.. 200 a pop on me.

overall, he isnt too bad just be prepared.. a single group of prepared 75 can take this imo.. really prepared.. and it might take a while.

he does not hesitate to use benediction when his life is dangerously low the first time!

Edited, Thu Dec 2 11:15:20 2004
RE: confirmation
# Feb 10 2006 at 9:10 PM Rating: Decent
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... he hits me for 70.
maybe a lil more. PLD armor ftw
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Dont Do This
# Dec 01 2004 at 9:52 PM Rating: Good
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Roc was called for help on Fairy once... Really funny watching 5 HNM LS (JP and NA) yell at each other while random people are attacking it... Wound up dead still called for help... Moral of the story is, it gets laggy when 100 people come to watch...
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how to get to spawn area?
# Nov 18 2004 at 1:58 AM Rating: Decent
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i heard you have to go through Garliage Citadael to get to this NM. Is this true? i have never tried fighting this thing and was wondering if it wwas tru. IF you do have to go through garliage citadael, can someone tell me the exit to his spawn point? Thakn in advance.
RE: how to get to spawn area?
# Nov 19 2004 at 4:14 PM Rating: Default
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Respawn is 21-24 hrs and yes you have to go through garlaige citadel to fight this thing. Best way to do this is to have a few ls members camp the top for the 3 hr spawn while others wait down the cliff below. Then you can just pull roc down the cliff.
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Re-spawn
# Nov 16 2004 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Re-spawn time? 21-24 hours right? i'd like to know ^^
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# Oct 25 2004 at 7:34 PM Rating: Decent
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It also drops Vile Elixer and Reraiser.

Killed him today with LS and got both the Damascus Ingot and Healing Staff! ^^;
Nice easy fight too. Hehe Roc rocks. XD
#joesaiditstrue, Posted: Sep 24 2004 at 3:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) also drops venomous claw (weird, figuring those are typically found on the Scorpion NM's (Amikiri and Serket). I think Simurgh might occasionally drop the claw also
RE: claw
# Sep 26 2004 at 5:35 PM Rating: Default
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No... no it doesn't drop venemous claw. Wtf are you thinking.
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Roc
# Sep 09 2004 at 8:10 PM Rating: Default
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I fought this a couple weeks ago. We had 12 person alliance between lvl 60-67 mostly lvl 60s.

I tanked it as a 63war/nin. We had 4 RDM an 1 WHM healer so all i really had to do was voke it and atempt to get shadows up ^^;.

It took us roughly 30 minutes. We had one death where our THF SATA onto a MNK by accident for 700 -_-. I lost hate for 20 seconds and he died ><.

I was able to parry some of his attacks but at least 95% of the time he either hit shadows or me.

His best attack is giga scream which did 300-500 DMG but he didnt do it very much. The only thing to really worry about is Horde Lullaby. Just have curaga ready and you'll be fine.
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# Aug 18 2004 at 2:24 AM Rating: Decent
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No offense but for all the people who said it looks like a normal mob... wtf?

anyways Roc is like 2 times as tall as an elvaan and technically a bard. his 2 hr is benediction though. He has around 40k hitpoints and uses benediction somewhere near half life. So essentially he has ~60k hitpoints.

Yes he is a HNM so 55 means nothing. You could feasibly take him in a party of 65's but I wouldnt try anything less than that for a single party in fact I am not entirely sure I would evne try that. We have killed him 4 nights in a row and gotten the crimson blade everytimes as the best drop... so 20k gil.

Possibly just bad luck but doesnt seem the staff or ingot drop much (had 60+ thf each time also)
RE: Roc
# Sep 09 2004 at 8:01 PM Rating: Default
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Roc looks like every other greater bird. He's a 21-24 hour NM, or mid-level NM as I like to call them. I don't consider Roc, Serket, Behemoth etc... to be HNM being 3 lvl 75s could take them out.

Roc is simple. He doesn't hit hard, not nearly as hard as Serket and can easily be paladin tanked. The Healing Staff is a very rare drop rate. Like all NMs, its best if you let your thief kill it to improve the drop rate.

Roc's 2hr is benediction, although he can cast Horde Lullaby, so have your curaga ready. He can also cast Massacre Elegy, so if you take more than one party, have at least one Erase in each party.

The only problem you may have, if your melee are not 75 or have optical hats, is Roc evading a lot of attacks. Other than that, it seems like Light does a decent amount of damage on him, although we haven't tried Darkness on him yet. Sharkbite from a lvl 68 Thief was severely hurting him.

Edited, Thu Sep 9 21:01:49 2004
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RE: Roc
# Nov 16 2004 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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Like all NMs, its best if you let your thief kill it to improve the drop rate.


It has been confirmed that the Thief does NOT have to be the final killing hit to "activate" his treasure hunter ability. He simply needs to be within the immediate area.
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RE: Roc
# Sep 07 2004 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
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Go to Cape Terrigan, you'll find regular mobs that look like him. So he does look like a normal mob.
RE: Roc
# Dec 30 2004 at 2:18 PM Rating: Decent
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you mean valley of sorrows ....
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lvl 55
# Jul 20 2004 at 5:11 PM Rating: Default
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If this was lvl 55 i'd be able to solo it...
but no... it solo's me!

there should be a nice warning like "55-55 (but really feels like 70)"

PS - Benediction is hilarious!

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RE: lvl 55
# Aug 10 2004 at 8:05 AM Rating: Decent
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umm yeah, its a HNM good luck trying to solo it at 55... only way you might be able to solo it is if you were 70+
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#NickZivs, Posted: Aug 16 2004 at 7:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nah you're not gonna be soloing this thing any time soon. First of all it horde's so any utsusemi buff is gone. So this means you can't melee it or it gets tp uses horde take care utsusemi. Then you're asleep and if you're some type of rdm it hits through your buffs and you're dead.
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# Jul 19 2004 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Meh, whoever said a nin can't tank this is wrong, just took Roc out the other day pt had

nin(me), whm, rdm, blm, mnk, rng

hate was a small issue since both the mnk and rng knew how to control what they were doing, Hoarde lullaby does take away shadows, and Roc does not hit 99% of the time, i could both parry and evade his attacks, blm would stun if i needed a sec to get Utsusemi up, except for me and the mnk the rest were 70+ i was 63 at the time and the monk was 66, fight lasted a half hour, and in the end the ranger did slug shot for 18-- and Eagle Eye Shot for another 17-- to kill it

btw got Healing Staff off of em too

Edited, Tue Jul 27 16:35:58 2004
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# Jul 13 2004 at 8:53 PM Rating: Decent
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I... Want... A... Crimson Blade... ;_; *is only lvl 46*
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Level ...
# Jul 01 2004 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
Level is the level of the monster, not the level required to kill the monster.

The level is determined by the exp that is gained after killing it, not by how hard it is to kill. By looking at the exp gained after killing a monster, one can use the exp charts found at http://www.geocities.com/bside_ffxi/index.html to develop a formula to determine the "level" of the monster.

So, for example, while Roc may be a level 55 monster (I haven't confirmed it, but I wouldn't write it off), it may still take a full LV 70 party to kill him.
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yes level 55
# Jun 30 2004 at 10:00 AM Rating: Default
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yes it is level 55, for those of you who do not know level 55 HNMs are as tough as level 75+ mobs. The two HNM rams in la thine and highlands are 55 also i think.
Not too bad
# Jun 21 2004 at 5:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Killed it a few times now with a small PT of 75s (meaning 4 to 6 people). It's best to have a PLD tank it, since a ninja will have some trouble keeping shadows up as Roc is a bard (even though it uses Benediction) and will do Horde Lullaby quite a bit, which kills all your shadows instantly. Roc's hits also seem to connect around 99% of the time, so trying to recast Utsusemi: Ichi after it kills your Ni shadows with Horde Lullaby is practically impossible unless you get lucky and paralyze stops an attack.
RE: Not too bad
# Nov 10 2004 at 3:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Roc is a WHM, hence Benediction. All greater birds can sing, it's like a built in subjob or something. Simurgh is a WAR, and he sings also.

And BTW... Just about any smart level 74+ with a fully leveled ninja subjob can solo these, but it would take quite some time, several stacks of shihei, (in this case also a few poison potions), and maybe a Hi-potion ro 2 for those melee jobs, but it is by all means soloable at 74 if you are a smart and determined player.
Roc...
# Jun 15 2004 at 6:16 AM Rating: Decent
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I have seen Roc a lot of times and i never knwe it was a NM.....it just looks and sounds like a generic mob....did any1 have this problem?
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