Hades Sainti Right, 75 Monk, have these and destroyers both.
Solo, destroyers and these do similar DoT, 6% crit vs 7acc i havent seen much difference. The eva and subtle blow on these make these superior to destroyers when solo.
In exp, personally i take hate a lot whatever weapon i use, Asuran Fists is a hate magnet. Again for pure dmg, these are comparable to destroyers, and allow you to drop some other +acc gear to add +att gear, overall outweighing destroyers. The subtle blow helps whatever. The eva is nice, and helps you to survive the inevitable hate taken. Taking hate as a pt member isnt always a bad thing, for example if your tank is shadowtanking (nin/ or /nin) then there are times when taking hate will allow the tank the chance to recast utsu: ichi or for the cast timers to recharge. A final note on taking hate, if we were'nt meant to take hate, why in gods name do we have the HP that we do...?
Merit is similar to exp so far, again i would argue these over destroyers, though carry both as everything is situational.
Salvage - mnk tanks <3 these. end of.
Mnk burn pts on skeles, your not gonna miss much whatever, so the +7 acc is slightly wasted, and skeles acc sucks ass anyhow, thus wasting the +7 eva. Emnity is irrelevant. In this case, the slightly faster strikes and the extra crits from destroyers is prefered.
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Designed for MNK tanks in mind, got my pair today since my mnk is a tank specifically for Salvage. Could probably be used in a good tp burn party as well, but wearing these along with going /war you should probably learn quick that it's a no no.
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People say monk cannot use these, and they are retarded.
In salvage and Nyzle Assualt, Mnk/nin tanks are Very much requested.
You can keep hate with these, Have massive subtle blow, Have accuracy to do more damage with Asuaran fists to keep hate again.
what did we learn here today kids.
- Monk has very high haste gear and +12 haste with blk belt.
-subbed with nin and these hades santi give you massive subtle blow
-Acc makes you hit more and WS harded, keeping your hate.
-You can't provoke, so you use enm from Arhats,Hades,and your damage.
- Evasion on these hades combined with the haste for your shadows is good.
-If your shadows are down, you still have -physical dmg taken gear, and a +15 genbu kubuto which lets you take even less damage, and Makes your chakra stronger, and with a merited chakra, you can regen.
-With Merited counters you can counter more, with a merited chi-blast, You can stop TP, which helps you when you tank, and with Mantra Merited, You can get more HP, which helps any tank.
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You wanna tank NQ HNMs, Do salvage, Tank faust, or do Nyzle isle or other assaults as a mnk tank. These are the weapon of choice, I've seen it.
If you just want to DD, and Exp party, Then destroyers are for you.
In salvage and Nyzle Assualt, Mnk/nin tanks are Very much requested.
You can keep hate with these, Have massive subtle blow, Have accuracy to do more damage with Asuaran fists to keep hate again.
what did we learn here today kids.
- Monk has very high haste gear and +12 haste with blk belt.
-subbed with nin and these hades santi give you massive subtle blow
-Acc makes you hit more and WS harded, keeping your hate.
-You can't provoke, so you use enm from Arhats,Hades,and your damage.
- Evasion on these hades combined with the haste for your shadows is good.
-If your shadows are down, you still have -physical dmg taken gear, and a +15 genbu kubuto which lets you take even less damage, and Makes your chakra stronger, and with a merited chakra, you can regen.
-With Merited counters you can counter more, with a merited chi-blast, You can stop TP, which helps you when you tank, and with Mantra Merited, You can get more HP, which helps any tank.
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You wanna tank NQ HNMs, Do salvage, Tank faust, or do Nyzle isle or other assaults as a mnk tank. These are the weapon of choice, I've seen it.
If you just want to DD, and Exp party, Then destroyers are for you.
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Whoever this deathcue person is going around saying these were designed with monk in mind.....obviously knows nothing about Monk OR Puppetmaster.... Anyone with half a brain can see that these were clearly designed with Puppetmaster in mind....not monk.....or warrior.....or beastmaster....maybe ninja.... But definately these are puppetmaster weapons.
I'll Clarify.
+7 enmity -> Keeps hate off puppet(85% of pups use Stormwaker w/whm or blm head)
+7 evasion -> dodge more = puppet needs to heal you less = [Conserve MP] with /nin or /thf(farming etc.) youll really see a difference.
+7 subtle blow -> give the mob less TP *gasp* you take less dmg from specials = [Conserve MP] /nin or /mnk this will only reduce the amount of tp you give the mob even more(Always good).
+7 accuracy = raging fists lands more hits making a stronger WS.
+18dmg = highest dmg HTH weapon available to PUP(The +1 will only be slightly more DPS due to the lower delay)
+51 delay = makes up for lack of Martial Arts job trait if you arent subbing monk(Which you really shouldnt..../war or /nin is suggested). IE faster attacks.
Granted all of these attribute can be put to use by all the jobs listed on the weapon itself,the one job that would get the most use out of them is puppetmaster. Yes ninja could use them for a huge boost to enmity which they sorely need and the eva,acc,sb always helps,they would do more dmg with katana's(Seeing as thats how nin is even able to tank,through DPS,thats all that matters). Only way i can see monk using these in a sensible way is mnk/nin in a tp burn party where the hades monk is the intended tank,and even then the +7 enmity isnt gonna make that much of a difference unless the other monks gear really stinks.
/endclarification
Edited, Oct 19th 2007 1:45pm by rottloverr
I'll Clarify.
+7 enmity -> Keeps hate off puppet(85% of pups use Stormwaker w/whm or blm head)
+7 evasion -> dodge more = puppet needs to heal you less = [Conserve MP] with /nin or /thf(farming etc.) youll really see a difference.
+7 subtle blow -> give the mob less TP *gasp* you take less dmg from specials = [Conserve MP] /nin or /mnk this will only reduce the amount of tp you give the mob even more(Always good).
+7 accuracy = raging fists lands more hits making a stronger WS.
+18dmg = highest dmg HTH weapon available to PUP(The +1 will only be slightly more DPS due to the lower delay)
+51 delay = makes up for lack of Martial Arts job trait if you arent subbing monk(Which you really shouldnt..../war or /nin is suggested). IE faster attacks.
Granted all of these attribute can be put to use by all the jobs listed on the weapon itself,the one job that would get the most use out of them is puppetmaster. Yes ninja could use them for a huge boost to enmity which they sorely need and the eva,acc,sb always helps,they would do more dmg with katana's(Seeing as thats how nin is even able to tank,through DPS,thats all that matters). Only way i can see monk using these in a sensible way is mnk/nin in a tp burn party where the hades monk is the intended tank,and even then the +7 enmity isnt gonna make that much of a difference unless the other monks gear really stinks.
/endclarification
Edited, Oct 19th 2007 1:45pm by rottloverr
very nice, I have these for my pup and I love them. As if pup didn't have enough evasion and enough ways to foil enemy attacks, these just make it less likely that an enemy will be able to hit you or retaliate much against you. especially good if you are soloing /nin to keep hate off the puppet and use with Ventriloquy (enmity swap merit).
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-Kairos lvl300 petmaster Caitsith
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hidden effect gives u +10 enmity
so thats a total of 17
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so thats a total of 17
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These do not give you +10 enmity on top of the 7.
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+7 enmity blows, i have gear that lowers enmity because hate comes quickly
and isnt good for the pt, mages and tanks wont be happy with these, think ill
stick to solo with these other than that ~>Destroyers are the key to good dmg
and a smoother pt IMO
and isnt good for the pt, mages and tanks wont be happy with these, think ill
stick to solo with these other than that ~>Destroyers are the key to good dmg
and a smoother pt IMO
30 posts
1st what job are you mainly? you're not a monk/
then where released specially for monk. Better you stick to Destroyers because you'll give Hades. bad name. These are too complicated for you to use.
good means we true effectively in party.
then where released specially for monk. Better you stick to Destroyers because you'll give Hades. bad name. These are too complicated for you to use.
good means we true effectively in party.
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Quote:
These are too complicated for you to use.
what kind of lame-ass trash-talk is that?
since MNK hit for a lot of dmg they draw a lot of hate, wich is NOT good.
Enmity gives you more hate, wich equals in even more trouble. I'd go with Destroyers over these, at least while in exp pt. Acc really shouldn't be a problem at 75 and the low delay is really good for fast TP building.
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you know nothing about monk stick to being a bard.
my average punches go for 60-110 each without Uber gear.
l know monk way better then you.
to any monks go for accuracy and eat attack food but mix in strength and attack, be balanced.
for every 4-5 attack factor 1 strength and get your accuracy above 30
Get Hades all purpose weapon - trust me.
my average punches go for 60-110 each without Uber gear.
l know monk way better then you.
to any monks go for accuracy and eat attack food but mix in strength and attack, be balanced.
for every 4-5 attack factor 1 strength and get your accuracy above 30
Get Hades all purpose weapon - trust me.
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After all these years you never learned how to play the game, eh deathcue? God your so @#%^ing retarded. I hope the reason you haven't posted is because you were hit by a bus so the rest of the world doesn't have to experience your stupidity on such a grand scale.
I'm sorry, but I can't seem to make out what you are saying...
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Hades > Destroyers
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Hades
DMG: 18
+7acc -> Asuran Fists acc + TP gain
+7eva -> Shadows/Third Eye
+7enmity -> Counter
+7"Subtle Blow" -> helps overall defense
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Destroyers
Dmg: 18
6% criticals
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I have a friend with these and it has nothing to do with MNK. These Are great for ninja. My friend has these with tons of other Enmity gear. They are just great for stuff that you wouldn't do much damage on anyways but need all the enmity you can get. I need to find some Gil to buy these for my ninja.
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[quote][/quote]nothing to do with MNK
LOL, seriously LOL
note: I have these
Shiva
LOL, seriously LOL
note: I have these
Shiva
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[quote][/quote]nothing to do with MNK
LOL
LOL
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"nothing to do with MNK"
LOL
Added fashion shot.
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Destroyers period for mnk.
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God gear 5/5
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30 posts
Hades > Destroyers
+7acc -> Asuran + TP gain
+7eva -> Shadows
+7enmity -> Counter
+7 "Subtle Blow" -> helps defense
you will not find these many stats on any other weapon, made for mnk.
Don't be discouraged by people who try and tell you what to do.
These are entremely hard to get and put together.
x2 Cerberus Claws
dropped by HNM CERBERUS spawns every 3-5 Days
in mount zyaohlm
x1 Bloodwood Lumber
by synthing x3 very rare Bloodwood Logs, logged in Mamook
by 90Woodworker
then ull need
Bonecraft 101
woodworking??
Smithing??
Yield:
x1Wind crystals
x1Bloowood Log
x2Cerberus Claws
x2Iron Ignots
-> Hades Sainti
Destroyers are nice, u can always fight easy prey get 30 kindreds seal and do the ksnm for the drop, a common drop.
+7acc -> Asuran + TP gain
+7eva -> Shadows
+7enmity -> Counter
+7 "Subtle Blow" -> helps defense
you will not find these many stats on any other weapon, made for mnk.
Don't be discouraged by people who try and tell you what to do.
These are entremely hard to get and put together.
x2 Cerberus Claws
dropped by HNM CERBERUS spawns every 3-5 Days
in mount zyaohlm
x1 Bloodwood Lumber
by synthing x3 very rare Bloodwood Logs, logged in Mamook
by 90Woodworker
then ull need
Bonecraft 101
woodworking??
Smithing??
Yield:
x1Wind crystals
x1Bloowood Log
x2Cerberus Claws
x2Iron Ignots
-> Hades Sainti
Destroyers are nice, u can always fight easy prey get 30 kindreds seal and do the ksnm for the drop, a common drop.
14 posts
That's right, and Monks can only sub war and kill skeletons. WE NEED MOAR DAMAGE CAPTAIN!!!!!!
30 posts
well hope some1 clears this up for me...
1. is d destroyers latent always on after u unlock at 500 sc points or does it lock back up? n how often r d criticals?
- it would seem to me a latent is not always active
because right now i have
hades > destroyers > vishnus
1. is d destroyers latent always on after u unlock at 500 sc points or does it lock back up? n how often r d criticals?
- it would seem to me a latent is not always active
because right now i have
hades > destroyers > vishnus
14 posts
Don't get me wrong, Destroyers are much better than these for XP, or any situation where someone else is expected to tank. I just didn't want the gear Nazi over here to discourage newbies from trying these out for themself.
- No, once you unlock Destroyers they are unlocked forever.
- I crit about 15% of the time with merits.
- I only mention that these are a great MNK -toy- for soloing or doing other specific things with. If you exp with these on MNK the healer might let you die because he/she is sick of you taking hate.
Get yourself a pair of Destroyers and break them, you will fall in love. (If you haven't already)
- No, once you unlock Destroyers they are unlocked forever.
- I crit about 15% of the time with merits.
- I only mention that these are a great MNK -toy- for soloing or doing other specific things with. If you exp with these on MNK the healer might let you die because he/she is sick of you taking hate.
Get yourself a pair of Destroyers and break them, you will fall in love. (If you haven't already)
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could someone put down what are the materials needed for this and how to get them.
i know someone put down d list of materials but ide like to know how to get each. thanks for any help.
i know someone put down d list of materials but ide like to know how to get each. thanks for any help.
odd posted picture weeks ago but it never got posted how sad.
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This is just a fantastic weapon for PUPs. . . I can't wait to own my own set.
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I just made 3 of these babies, and I wanted to correct the previous poster its bonecraft lvl 101 wood 60 and smithing ?? (most likely less than 30 smithing due to the iron ingot)
A friend of mine tried making this with bone 100 wood 50 smithing 60 and failed twice ; ; but after that i made the first 3 on the server!
picture should show on alla soon
PS: big thanks goes to general for providing me with the materials ^_^
A friend of mine tried making this with bone 100 wood 50 smithing 60 and failed twice ; ; but after that i made the first 3 on the server!
picture should show on alla soon
PS: big thanks goes to general for providing me with the materials ^_^
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DRG75 RNG75 MNK75 NIN75 BLM75 SAM75 THF75 BLU75 DNC64 And another BLM75 THF75
Bonecraft 100+3
Cooking 100+1
Woodworking 91
Lu shang's Rod Quest Completed: 01/03/05
It takes 43 muscles to frown and only 17 to smile, but it takes none to sit there with a dumb look on your face
DRG75 RNG75 MNK75 NIN75 BLM75 SAM75 THF75 BLU75 DNC64 And another BLM75 THF75
Bonecraft 100+3
Cooking 100+1
Woodworking 91
Lu shang's Rod Quest Completed: 01/03/05
It takes 43 muscles to frown and only 17 to smile, but it takes none to sit there with a dumb look on your face
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This takes Bonecrafting 100, ingredients are Cerebus clawsX2, bloodwood lumberX1, Iron IgnotsX2. about 10 of these have sold on Fenrir, about 3M each. I want these so bad. but I am tapped for gil. almost thought about pawning my scorp harness and potent belt>.<. Nice set of knucks anyway.
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75 monk 75 Rng 75 Thf 75 War 37 Nin 37 whm 55 bst
75 monk 75 Rng 75 Thf 75 War 37 Nin 37 whm 55 bst
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how do i get a pair of these?? are they dropped, crafted, quested, etc???
2 posts
MNK can use them I have a pair on :P
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So far, 2/2 on these... No HQ though... I will be submitting a pic as soon as I get a signed pair!
Good luck getting the Mat's if you wanna wear a pair! :P
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these are definately better than adamans, if you solo a lot too. they also have low delay:damage ratio and they have third best damage i think. for not being a monk PUP sure have a wide viriety of H2H weapons to choose from.
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Quote:
These are pretty cool.....exept...monk cant use em...
(-_-; )
Unless its a mistake-
(-_-; )
Unless its a mistake-
saw a monk with them today -.-' SMARTS
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when they were uploaded into the database it said nothing about monk.
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Jobs: Beastmaster, Monk, Ninja, Puppetmaster, Warrior
Edited, Oct 19th 2006 at 12:12am PDT by nlxhaze
Edited, Oct 19th 2006 at 12:12am PDT by nlxhaze
These are pretty cool.....exept...monk cant use em...
(-_-; )
Unless its a mistake-
(-_-; )
Unless its a mistake-
Server: Gilgamesh
Jobs: MNK 75,WAR 46,DRG 43,SAM 48,THF 42,BLU 36,NIN 35,BLM 18, RNG 17, WHM 11
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