I've found the best place to get moat carps is the Knightwell pond in west ronfaure.
I've tried the pond in Yhoator, Bastok, and Windurst, and my best results have been Knightwell.
90/96 of my bites were moat carp. I used Halcyon Rod + Insect Paste. The others generally returned 75% Carp. Still good, but nothing for me beat Knightwell.
Not a huge number to test on, but it's steady and good.
Edit: The past few times fishing at knightwell pond in west ronfaure I've gotten lower returns on carp. My 90/96 was probably a moon phase. What were the returns? About 80% Carp. Closer to the 75% you'll usually get.
Anyway, all up to whoever reads this to go where they want :) If you're hunting forest carp along with moats in Yhoator ponds you can also continue to skill up your fishing (at lower levels). Carp skill routes usually mention this as a place to skill while grabbing fish for your lu shang's.
Knightwell FTW! One thing to look out for (especially at popular holes such as this one), is what can be known as "fishing dry" a body of water. Thanks to other posters and some research of my own, I started this in regards to "Spot Fatigue", but you have to read down, the first part is my /panic.
Got "Carp Diem" 5-12-09, and as of right now, I was hoping it would make catching trout easier...
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Trading in 1 Moat Carp gives you the same amount of fame has handing in 8x12 Moat Carp. To maximize the fame gained from this quest (as well as San d'Orian) fame, simply trade 1 Moat Carp at a time.
Well, hello... I just started fishing for carp and such to begin me quest to Lu shangs, My fishing is at 68 and I would like to recommend if you are a high level, go to Yhoater Jungle and fish at (I-9). It is underground pond/waterfall thing, and you can pull up Moat and forest carp here ONLY with insect paste. I have caught about 30 non stop with only one "You did not catch..." and no Monster bites. So if you have tele-yhoat and a high level (prefferable 66+) come out here its great. Well thats all happy fishing ^^!
Can a Lv1 Fisherman break this rod on the ferry? or will my skill be soo weak that i wont. I'm lvl 73WoodWorking, and I would love to get it to 80 ASAP.
I'm Hales on the Odin server, and I sell moat carp in bulk. I also do other odd jobs, if you are interested send me a /tell. Average prices are: 10 stacks- 80,000 20 stacks- 150k 30 stacks- 210k Thanks and good luck to all!
that Kennethnoisewater at the top knows nothing I have the rod and the best place to fish is the Knigtswell pond in west Ronfaure... in Bastok Markets you catch alot of rusty stuf.... Knightwell you get moat Carp back to back... yo also catch other fish besides moats in bastol which makes u mad... the only fish in Knightswell are Moat Carps.... which makes IT the best place to fish on the game for moat carps.
Akasephiroth you are WRONG, you can catch Crayfish if you are fishing with Little worms and also… Rusty Buckets. So, it makes not the BEST place to fish after all. So maybe you're the one who knows nothing. Also get some spelling lessons. G'day.
Yes, you catch quite a few things with worms. Solution? Don't use worms. Insect paste by the barrel. Dirt cheap, and the only thing you can get from Knightswell with Insect paste is moat carp and the rare monster.
actually, opinions may vary on that. i fish in yhoator jungle catching moat and forest carp (which can be traded in for the carp quest as well). forest carp net you a few extra bucks, not much to really make it noticable, but a carp caught for this quest is a carp caught nonetheless.
fish in the underground tunnels in the pools there, cancel anything with !!! after it, it's a monster, anything that starts with the rod stand straight and has it's satmina go down, cancel that. no need to break your rod an arrowwood logs.
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ok, when fishing you get bored and your mind starts to wander (at least mine does). i decided i wanted to know some silly things other might be interested in. like how long could that crazy amount of fish take to obtain: there is 1440 mins in a day, it takes 17 game mins for a fast catch, that leaves you able to get a max of 85 moat carps in one earth hour (if you caught one every single catch. 10k divided by 85 will take you roughly 118 earth hours /gasp. so is it really worth it for the pole? on pandemonium moat carp sell for 8-10k per stack giving you 80,000,000+ gil for just one person to buy enough fish. hmmm do i want a fishing rod i may never be able repair? or do i want 80,000,000+ gil. not a hard question to answer.
Well i agree. i found that although moats are 3k a stack on Sylph atm, and the rod is 1mil, you can sell your 10k moats 10,000/12 = 833 Approx, So thats 833 stacks of fish. 833x3k = 2,499,000 there for and aproximate saving of 1 alot of time, 2 1milish gil! please correct me if my maths is wrong however, wouldn't it be easier to sell the fish buy the rod make the gil??
Or even better! Forget this rod and get the Ebisu one, i am still to see somebody with it after 1year playing FF o.O
Note: Took off from game, cancelled the original Zaub, and lost inter alia my first Lu. Starting all over, and now fishing 21.9, 2350 carp turned in. Current market price for moaties on Cerberus: 3500 per stack, tending down to 3k from time to time. Fishing from the Sandy docks, and getting the occasional skillup from tri's and golds. Major advantage to bring a stack of little worms, distilled water, millioncorn and earth crystals to make 12 stacks of insect paste as needed. Only have about an hour a day to play now; getting in around 4-5 stacks a night now and buying another 5-6 stacks a day as crafted items sell on the AH. Going to head out tonight to the ferry to start on nebs for skillups and profits for a while to take a break (6k profit per neb stack these days, sell all overnight). Have noticed lots of alphabet players (names like "Ghijk") who fish moaties on the docks for 2 hours, and then are replaced by somebody else (named like "Lmnop") for two hours... gee, I wonder who they are and what they are doing??? How about gobbie wardens in the cities, only attacking level 1-10 fisherfolk with Lu'Shang rods?
1) LuShang's Rod quest in Port Sandy is repeatable, but getting a second rod is not (so you can fish for your second 10k moats and get your 10 gil each... grin).
2) Repairing broken rod is level 80 woodworking, so the absolute minimum level to be able to repair it would be WW65, using light crystal. Unlikely to have any success until you get to around to WW 72-73 though. Unless you are repairing the rod when you come into port on the ferry, you cannot lose the rod during synth for repair.
3) Probable best place to fish for moats is Lake Tepokalipuka in East Saruta. Use little worms, and moats are the only fish you will catch. If you can find it, an absolutely excellent guide by Scotthmarshall somewhere on the moat carp/LuShang threads. This is his recommendation, and I second it. Worth it to invest in a Little Worm Belt if you can find one, saves inventory slots for bait.
4) The brothers' messages about the number of fish they have is based on their own catches, your contributions and a certain bending of the truth. Only way to know your count is the gal on the dock after you speak with her a couple of times.
5) LuShang's is worth the effort IF you want to skill up fishing beyond the 50s, since it is one of two rods that can catch almost all fish without breaking (I think there are only 6 fish that can break it; Ebisu is unbreakable, but have never seen one). Btw, the fish that can break LuShangs rod: Sea Zombie; Cave Cherax; Giant Chirai; Ryugo Titan; Lik; and Gugrusaurus (last two are the final catches for the Ebisu in quest Indominable Spirit).
6) If you combine LuShang's, waders, fishing gear (and of course ultimately if you can, the Big Boy furnishing, mooching ability, etc.), you can make major gil quite easily. And the nice thing compared to other crafts is that you do not have the serious possiblity of a high-level break, costing you or your customer 3-5 million gil.
7) Cooking and wood are relatively cheap to skill up to high levels; having wood73, cooking83 is a nice combo for the serious fisherman. If you are Nin 57 (or over), you can raise that cooking 83 to an effective level of 92, and be a sushi king... even though it would cost you about the same for the Hocho as it would for the LuShang's!! All that aside, cooking 29 is a very nice level to have if you are going for the LuShang, since you can do your own insect paste (note: buy your millioncorn from regional vendor (@ 36 gil?), little worms from the guild (4 gil), water from the bars (11 gil). Assume you can get a stack of earth crystals for 800 gil. This calculates out to a cost for stack of paste of 117.6 gil. Major savings over AH prices of 500+, when you are talking about the paste needed for 10k moaties.
8) If you are a high enough level, the 90+ bonecrafters can be your steady customer for gavrail fish, armored pisces and titanictus, used in bone 100 recipes. Make a deal for some armor if you can use it...
Unless you are repairing the rod when you come into port on the ferry, you cannot lose the rod during synth for repair.
Thanks for clearing up some of my paranoia... I feel terrible if somebody's actually lost their rod by synthing on departure, though. >_<
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6300 carps left As of 100905. Kinda losing track on why I am catching these fish. getting nightmares about carp. TT I had a dream that I fell in the pond in Rabao and all the carps turned into "Hume-eating" carps. /sigh that 1k carps a week seemed pretty easy but when you have everything else going on with your life it's pretty tough. Almost tempted to buy it, but I feel like i would be cheating so I'm sticking it out. I was lvl 48 when I started in Rabao then got to 51 and left for windy. now Im 54. so for all who want to fish for da 'Shang', fish in Rabao till 51 (sandfish caps @ 51) then go to windy (gold carps cap @ 56) Tips for catching carps for da Shang: Watch TV while fishing: I never watch TV but since i started this quest it helps the time go by. Play other video games: I play texas hold em on my xbox to kill time also.
9715 left to go. Started Monday 091305. Make a reasonable goal if you want to get this rod. I make 12 stacks of paste a night and fish all them up. Im 45 and i can pull em up quite quickly, so 12 stacks go by pretty quick. 1k stacks of carp is a decent goal for me to attain a week. For all who are serious in this give me a /tell and I will tell you a great place to fish em up. Good luck!
well, one good thing about the bots of old days, there was always carp to buy in the AH,.... NOw there doesnt seem to be enough for me, let alone the rest of the server.
If your going for Lu Sheng's you shouldn't sell it. It only breaks on a ferry and there is a quest where you give an npc the broken rod and she fixes it for you. It is totally worth the 10,000 carps because its the best rod in the game. You'll catch a fish every cast unlike comp rod youll see that too small message. Fishing is not "done for" in making money wise. I use a hume fishing rod and a minnow on the ferry and catch noble ladys and make a lot of gil that way. There are also shall shells and a whole bunch of other fish you can catch to make money. Moat carp isn't that great a way to make gil....there are a lot of ppl fishing them. I would suggest catching them for lu sheng's and raising your skill to eventually be able to catch giant squid. which is really good profit. my lv100 fishing friend on kujata makes 900k a day fishing giant squid W/ lu shengs because you cant catch them with any other rod. *Dont't sell the rod....its not worth it
oh. comon, 10k moat carps for this fishing rod? and the rod broke? money waste,i am a fisher with only level 8 fishing but i think is too much for that fishing rod, i dont undestand how much people have the fishing rod, if somebody is noob and sell a broken fishing rod, woodwoking and tara! money O_O!
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so, the econimics question, the skill up question, the repair question and the completion questions have all been answered (in a way) but what about the Break Rate question?
whats the rods average break rate? what does it tend to break most on? is there a higher chance of breakage the lower your fishing skill or vice versa?
That's not how it works. You obtain one by giving 10,000 moat carp to an NPC in Port San d'Oria. If you see someone who synthesized on, it was them repairing a broken Lu Shangs.
just a question, but would anyone consider sending lu to a trusted gamer to repair for skill ups in WW and have it sent back for no charge just supply the light crystal for the repair??
because of the new update... moat carp prices are WAY down in the AH... along with being very abundant... so dont be mad cause the guy gives you 10 gil for ur cap... be glad cause u can easilly buy your lu shangs now.
ok i thought hey no bots after update moat carp will rise alot. so i do quest get it done and was like woot 1 day done b4 update. update comes moat drop 3k a stack im out like 2ish mil and now running around with a lu rod that is decreasing daily in value and my mesly 10k gil.so needless to say this rod rulz i can get so much with it i cant w/o. but i was mad i wasted 1.5 months farming for nothing.
I'm afraid your not very smart if u think a script cant read a fish's life bar and tell the keyboard which way to push... fishing is simply ruined... its no longer for making money... btw the new bots were available the day after the update and real in a fish faster than any human could ^^ i sure hope u read this mr capslock...
I mean every 20 moat stacks u turn in u could have had 100k. Instead u essentially break even because of the cost of bait which is like 400-500 a stack of insect balls on my server. So ur 4 mil instead of 3.3 mil therory i dunno where u guys are geting that from cause 2 stacks of insect balls cost 1k. Also since the new update it is almost lik eu can catch the same fish with any rod if u fight it enough. So my question is should i finish lu rod quest or just turn in carps before the price falls on the craps cause its easier to catch them faster? Is Lu really worth it after update is my main question. And people who went through all the trouble in geting it dont say yes just because u already have it, and dont want to be kicking yourself. Whats an honest answer.
Archduke: damn i broke my lu's rod...lemme fix it XD Sephirotten: go for it ^^ Imanewbie: c4n i beatz 4 SEeeaEa HorR0ar!? Sephirotten: no, you can't fight a horror at lvl 7...plus ur a whm for cryin out loud Imanewbie: I'm teh kING! ChecK m4h l33t sk1llZ!!1! Imanewbie starts casting Protect. Imanewbie casts Protect. Imanewbie gains the effect of Protect. Synthesis failed. You lost the crystal you were using. You lost a [Green]Lu Shang's Rod.[/Gold] Archduke: DAMN IT!!!!!! Sephirotten: dude that blows... Imanewbie: r0flfl!!1! j00 suxx0rs!!!! The Water Elemental hits Imanewbie for 177 point of damage. Imanewbie was defeated by the Water Elemental.
they should do that as some kinda joke to get some people wrilled up...tell all those up-tight fisherman to relax...lol
Edited: had to make the chat log look better XD (i know i went overboard, but im at work...so im really bored)
My name is not meant to be from braveheart! if you would like to know the true origins of my name, i would be more than happy to go over it once again, until then, please dont harass about it^-^ thanks!
It's 80 or so in woodworking for this... but you could always keep trying a bunch since it's impossible to lose this in synthing unless you are interupted.
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No, it would not, I'm afraid. The skillcap assigned to a "repair a Broken Lu" synth is 80, so figure accordingly; most Lu-possessing fishermen eventually get their woodworking up to at least 73, 74 or so, to permit them a decent shot at repairing it.
Indeed, when my WW was 67 or so, an acquaintance trusted me with her broken Lu and gave me 8 Light Crystals for 8 tries at repairing it. I went oh for 8.
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uhh yew rod completely blows ass, breaks to much, sh*tty ass stanima, lu shangs: the god of all rods, almost never breaks, so much stanima u almost always catch, and when u got this rod gill comes by so ez, example bastore breams, 20-30k a stack, thats like 300-400k a day, try catching a stack of breams with a yew rod
Instead of being snooty, you should answer the question. I thought we were here for answers, not to be put down. It's hard enough finding a straight answer online, I thought this was the place for them. Was I wrong?
BTW, i dont now what the difference is either. There are no stupid questions. Only stupid answers like:
Yew rods will break a lot and are basically only able to get small fish. Lu Shang's is the most durable rod in the game and can catch every possible fish quite consistently. Every serious 50-60+ fisher has a Lu's.
Well, what I am doing is getting my woodworkign skil up high enough to make a rod. Then i am going to finish the quest, and sell the rod. Then i will buy 2 broken ones and remake them. That will give meabout 6 million more gil. So then i will keep doing this untill i have about 20 million gil. Then i will just go happy with leveling my war pass 50. Of course, i did my own math.
2 stacks of moat carp a day and i will have to take 15 months to finish the quest. So on days that i can get about 10 stacks a day i will be much happier. This is what i think is the best long way to get money, but you could do the repeatable quest in rabao instead. But with that high skill i can also make +1 bows so i will make even more money
Good Luck finding broken rods on auction... not many people sell them broken (they just get them fixed... there's a quest to fix it too ya know).
15 months... way to long... I'm hoping to get mine in 3 months max... got 2000 carp in 2 weeks (yes, I had no life and fished all day, but luckily it was at the end of the semester and my exams were over.)
Currently at 2200, but I took a break and leveled cooking some. (still failed too much at lvl 29 with pastes).
I am working on Lu Shang and a friend who is taking a break has loaned me his to catch moats while he's away from the game (lucky me!)
I've been using the rod about a day now, and maybe I'm imagining things, but does this rod lessen the recast time for fishing? Seems like I can cast again noticeably quicker.
Would you really want to spend all that time and gil trying to get a second one when you could just make about the same amount of gil fishing with your first one? I mean isn't that why you did the quest, to get the rod so you could fish with it?
Alright, just to tell you.. If the Lu Shang's Rod ever does break.. take it to Rabao and do the quest and u will get it repaired for a small price... And its also repeatable. >=)
I am currently doing the quest in sandy to get this rod. When i talk to the brother that im helping, he says "I've got (X amount) of Moat Carps. How about you?" I know you have to get 10,000 Moat Carps to get the rod, but my question is can you decifer the number of carps you have given to him by the number he says? I would just like to know my progres up to this point.
10000 moat carp and lu shang rod which won would be better to sell? here ill do the math 10000 moat carp divide it by 12 (the amount of stacks you could get out of 10000 moat carp) then u get 833.333333(repeated decimal) times this number by 4000 (the price of a stack of moat carp) equals 3333333.333 strangly enough if u round all this up it comes to this conclusion 3,333,334 (10,000 moat carp) -3,000,000 (lu shang road price) ----------- 333,334 (profit of the fish instead of the lu shang road)
TOTAL CONCLUSION IS!!!!!!!!! LU SHANG ROAD IS BETTER FOR THE FISHER MEN AND!!!!!!!!!!! 10,000 MOAT CARP IS BETTER FOR THE BUSINESS MEN
Redo your math, because you neglected the fact that you get 100 gil for each moat carp you turn in.
10000/12 = 834 stacks (rounded) 834*4000 = 3,336,000 gil (selling all on AH) 834*1200 = 1,000,800 gil (turning all in NPC) Lu Shang = 3,000,000 gil (cost at AH ~post)
Quest Total = 4,000,800 gil
Therefore, the business man would complete the quest and sell the rod making a 664,800 gil profit over selling all the carp at AH.
Of course if you have the capital and Lu Shang sells on your server, you could always buy 834 stacks of carp and complete the quest for a profit. Much faster than fishing. Oops..did I let out a secret?
i am more evil than hitlers brain in the body of a great white shark on a jew only beatch fear me rrraaaaahhhhh!!! (ps no offence if ur jewish or german ^_-)
In your math, you forgot to add in the fact you get 100 gil for each MC traded in. 10,000 x 100gil = 1 mil gil + Lu Shang (3 mil) = 4 mil value from quest.
Better deal to trade the fish for the quest than sell it on AH if you're going for the rod. You get 666k more gil that way.
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Hmmm well has anyone thought of sellin the rod once they get it for 3mil, or selling the 10,000 Moatcarp. Which would be better. Or saving the rod and keep fishing -_- know that you just gave like 1.5mil away of fish and now have a rod worth 3mil and keep on fishing. Is it worth to keep fishing, if it is how much can you make in three days of fishing better be worth it anyone got the answers please reply im in desperate need of money. Looking fir Answers :)
yes, it does take a long time of non stop fishing, but it's worth it... you'll have the rod.
I've started recently (3 days ago... heh... but I'm working at it). Right now I'm pulling in 180 carp per day on average (I've gotten 549 Moat Carp in 3 days). at 180 carp a day, you get about... 1260 carp a week, at that rate, it would take me 8 weeks to finish the quest. And... in that 8 Weeks, I will get 1 million gil (minus the cost of bait, but I can make my own pastes, so it's not too bad), Hero lvl fame in sandy, and the lu shang's rod.
180 carp a day right now is my going rate, but my goal over all is to pull in 1000 carp a week on average.
Hmmm well has anyone thought of sellin the rod once they get it for 3mil, or selling the 10,000 Moatcarp. Which would be better. Or saving the rod and keep fishing -_- know that you just gave like 1.5mil away of fish and now have a rod worth 3mil and keep on fishing. Is it worth to keep fishing, if it is how much can you make in three days of fishing better be worth it anyone got the answers please reply im in desperate need of money. Looking fir Answers :)
After hitting the 10,000 mark on the nose, he makes a comment that you have given him over 10,000 fish. He then says you deserve something to certify your accomplishment. You then recieve a Key Item called "Testimonial", along with the rod. After inspecting the key item, it reads:
"This certifies that you have gathered no less than ten thousand moat carp. Please spend your time in a manner more beneficial to society. Your achievement is noteworthy for its utter lack of meaning."
With heartfelt disapproval, Gallijaux and Joulet
I was kinda upset at the lack of respect above...but I have the rod and have gotten 3 skill levels in a night from it, along with quite a few stacks of some expensive fish! Now to get woodworking higher.....*frown*
As far as i know there is a second way to fix your broken Lu Shang Rod...less complicated and time consuming then having lvl 80 woodworking. In rabao a person named irmilant is willing to fix your broken Lu Shang, if you can get him the supplies....which are 2 Light Crystals, The Broken Lu Shang, and a piece of Anicent Lumber (synthed with a wind crystal and a pertified log)....but maybe i am wrong....if you have one and break it check this option out might be worth something.
wat is the best fish to catch and wat rod and/or lure/bair wil i need to catch him and whom do i sell it to make the best amount of profit? a NPC or at AH if a NPC which one? and were may i find him? and which rod is the best rod that will rarely break and best lure? overall. this is important to me
I've found the best place to get moat carps is the Knightwell pond in west ronfaure.
I've tried the pond in Yhoator, Bastok, and Windurst, and my best results have been Knightwell.
90/96 of my bites were moat carp. I used Halcyon Rod + Insect Paste. The others generally returned 75% Carp. Still good, but nothing for me beat Knightwell.
Not a huge number to test on, but it's steady and good.
Edit: The past few times fishing at knightwell pond in west ronfaure I've gotten lower returns on carp. My 90/96 was probably a moon phase. What were the returns? About 80% Carp. Closer to the 75% you'll usually get.
Anyway, all up to whoever reads this to go where they want :) If you're hunting forest carp along with moats in Yhoator ponds you can also continue to skill up your fishing (at lower levels). Carp skill routes usually mention this as a place to skill while grabbing fish for your lu shang's.
Edited, Jan 10th 2009 8:54am by TelephotoBat
Got "Carp Diem" 5-12-09, and as of right now, I was hoping it would make catching trout easier...
Gremloc of Diabolos
like if you had 0 fame in sandy, and then torned in all 10k carp, etc. I'm trying to gague how worthwhile the quest would be in regard to fame alone.
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fish in the underground tunnels in the pools there, cancel anything with !!! after it, it's a monster, anything that starts with the rod stand straight and has it's satmina go down, cancel that. no need to break your rod an arrowwood logs.
there is 1440 mins in a day,
it takes 17 game mins for a fast catch,
that leaves you able to get a max of 85 moat carps in one earth hour (if you caught one every single catch. 10k divided by 85 will take you roughly 118 earth hours /gasp. so is it really worth it for the pole? on pandemonium moat carp sell for 8-10k per stack giving you 80,000,000+ gil for just one person to buy enough fish. hmmm do i want a fishing rod i may never be able repair? or do i want 80,000,000+ gil. not a hard question to answer.
Or even better! Forget this rod and get the Ebisu one, i am still to see somebody with it after 1year playing FF o.O
10,000 fish needed for the quest
8-10k per STACK of moat carp, 12 fish per stack
Therefore: 834 stacks required
834 x 8-10k = 6,672,000-8,340,000 gil
so ask yourself, do you feel lucky... punk
as for the repairing just find yourself a nice woodworker to do it.
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1) LuShang's Rod quest in Port Sandy is repeatable, but getting a second rod is not (so you can fish for your second 10k moats and get your 10 gil each... grin).
2) Repairing broken rod is level 80 woodworking, so the absolute minimum level to be able to repair it would be WW65, using light crystal. Unlikely to have any success until you get to around to WW 72-73 though. Unless you are repairing the rod when you come into port on the ferry, you cannot lose the rod during synth for repair.
3) Probable best place to fish for moats is Lake Tepokalipuka in East Saruta. Use little worms, and moats are the only fish you will catch. If you can find it, an absolutely excellent guide by Scotthmarshall somewhere on the moat carp/LuShang threads. This is his recommendation, and I second it. Worth it to invest in a Little Worm Belt if you can find one, saves inventory slots for bait.
4) The brothers' messages about the number of fish they have is based on their own catches, your contributions and a certain bending of the truth. Only way to know your count is the gal on the dock after you speak with her a couple of times.
5) LuShang's is worth the effort IF you want to skill up fishing beyond the 50s, since it is one of two rods that can catch almost all fish without breaking (I think there are only 6 fish that can break it; Ebisu is unbreakable, but have never seen one). Btw, the fish that can break LuShangs rod: Sea Zombie; Cave Cherax; Giant Chirai; Ryugo Titan; Lik; and Gugrusaurus (last two are the final catches for the Ebisu in quest Indominable Spirit).
6) If you combine LuShang's, waders, fishing gear (and of course ultimately if you can, the Big Boy furnishing, mooching ability, etc.), you can make major gil quite easily. And the nice thing compared to other crafts is that you do not have the serious possiblity of a high-level break, costing you or your customer 3-5 million gil.
7) Cooking and wood are relatively cheap to skill up to high levels; having wood73, cooking83 is a nice combo for the serious fisherman. If you are Nin 57 (or over), you can raise that cooking 83 to an effective level of 92, and be a sushi king... even though it would cost you about the same for the Hocho as it would for the LuShang's!! All that aside, cooking 29 is a very nice level to have if you are going for the LuShang, since you can do your own insect paste (note: buy your millioncorn from regional vendor (@ 36 gil?), little worms from the guild (4 gil), water from the bars (11 gil). Assume you can get a stack of earth crystals for 800 gil. This calculates out to a cost for stack of paste of 117.6 gil. Major savings over AH prices of 500+, when you are talking about the paste needed for 10k moaties.
8) If you are a high enough level, the 90+ bonecrafters can be your steady customer for gavrail fish, armored pisces and titanictus, used in bone 100 recipes. Make a deal for some armor if you can use it...
Edited, Jul 30th 2007 9:27pm by CRJR
Taru, Rank 10. Hellsangels LS.
CoP, ZM, ToAU done.
Thf,Brd,Blm,Rdm75/Whm60/Sam,Mnk45
Pld,War,Nin,Drk43/Drg42/Blu40
Sch,Dnc37/Smn,Bst32
Bone 100+4 Leather 60+1
Alch/Wood/Cook/Cloth 60
GS 51/Smith 53/Fishing 29
Thanks for clearing up some of my paranoia... I feel terrible if somebody's actually lost their rod by synthing on departure, though. >_<
Hiro: Hello, I am about to persue the infamous Dread Dragon, is there no adventurer brave enough to aid me in my quest?
Speech the gamers use:
Hirox: Hay every1, i'm gunna go kill dread dragon, anybody wna cum with?
Here is the link:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=24&mid=112318774319370546&num=3
This write-up has some of the strategies I used when completing the quest to get this rod...hopefully it helps! :-)
Mingo | Asura Server | Rank 8.2
75 RDM \ 40 BLM \ 15 THF \ 18 WAR \ 28 NIN
Fishing 57 Lu Shangs Obtained! | Cooking 92
Title: "Final Balli*****Star"
WAR:75|RNG:75|NIN:75|WHM:62|RDM:37|THF:35|COR:34|BLM:31|PLD:20|BST:20|BRD:18|SAM:18| Others below 10.
WOOD:74|GOLD:26|FISH:16
Nation: Rank 10 Bastok, Rank 10 Windurst, Rank 9 San d'Oria
Me and Info: http://freewebs.com/celebis/k.jpg
As of 100905.
Kinda losing track on why I am catching these fish.
getting nightmares about carp. TT
I had a dream that I fell in the pond in Rabao and all the carps turned into "Hume-eating" carps. /sigh
that 1k carps a week seemed pretty easy but when you have everything else going on with your life it's pretty tough.
Almost tempted to buy it, but I feel like i would be cheating so I'm sticking it out.
I was lvl 48 when I started in Rabao then got to 51 and left for windy. now Im 54.
so for all who want to fish for da 'Shang', fish in Rabao till 51 (sandfish caps @ 51) then go to windy (gold carps cap @ 56)
Tips for catching carps for da Shang:
Watch TV while fishing: I never watch TV but since i started this quest it helps the time go by.
Play other video games: I play texas hold em on my xbox to kill time also.
Good luck to all
Romy @ Seraph
Charm gear: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?3151
Attack gear: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?149316
TP gear: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?149317
Started Monday 091305.
Make a reasonable goal if you want to get this rod.
I make 12 stacks of paste a night and fish all them up.
Im 45 and i can pull em up quite quickly, so 12 stacks go by pretty quick.
1k stacks of carp is a decent goal for me to attain a week.
For all who are serious in this give me a /tell and I will tell you a great place to fish em up.
Good luck!
Romy @ Seraph
Charm gear: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?3151
Attack gear: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?149316
TP gear: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?149317
I bought the last 5k fish. Had my mules logged at the AH in each city. Took me about 3-4 weeks considering the lack of moats for sale.
I fished early in the game, probably could have had two Lu Shangs by now but Moats are how I made my money (and "got rich") early in the game.
Now I have the two things I was in total awe of when I saw them as an utter-and-100%-knowledgeless n00b... my pimp hat and my Lu Shang. ^^
37 DRK-NIN-BST-WAR-THF
TheStormingForce (family linkshell)
Equilibrium (endgame)
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Seraph Server ~ San d’Oria Rank 10
Cooking 100+2, Fishing 95.9 ~ Ebisu Rod
RoZ/CoP/ToAU/ACP Complete, WotG 08/??
FL Wildcat Badge 34/50, Merits 412
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lv56 fishing
Kujata
Romy @ Seraph
Charm gear: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?3151
Attack gear: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?149316
TP gear: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?149317
and the rod broke? money waste,i am a fisher with only level 8 fishing but i think is too much for that fishing rod, i dont undestand how much people have the fishing rod, if somebody is noob and sell a broken fishing rod, woodwoking and tara! money O_O!
Mithra (THF/WAR)
Stingin sophie 2/6
stray mary 0/0, lol i only try one time but no pop
Cooking 39.
You want to start in the world of cooking? then enter me guide http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=24;mid=11530294962397120;num=4;page=1
whats the rods average break rate? what does it tend to break most on? is there a higher chance of breakage the lower your fishing skill or vice versa?
Tavo
Seraph
30thf /15mnk/12smn/3blm/21rdm/8whm/2bst/5rng
... one of the biggest obstacles in MMOs: getting us to play with others and cooperate against a mutual enemy-including other players. Jeff Green
THe moat carp sold for about 4.5k per stack on (unicorn) but now they are 4k so its a major loss to our server hehe
Job LVL'S: 62THF~~51Rng--37Nin--37War
Server: Unicorn
Currently working on building up 2million gil before i start to lvl my RNG to 75
After the update, you only get 10 GIL for each carp you turn in ><; That's not even enough to cover the cost of bait.
NIN37/ WAR37/ SAM37/ RDM37/ RNG37 / WHM37
Triple Attack +5% | Quick Draw Accuracy +2 | Quick Draw Recast +5
Dagger Skill +16 | Marksmanship Skill +4 | Critical Hit +4%
Beast Affinity +1 | Assassin's Charge +1 | Feint +3 | Aura Steal +1 | Snake Eyes +1 | Fold +1 | Loaded Deck +1
Edited, Wed Feb 23 17:57:36 2005
Sephirotten: go for it ^^
Imanewbie: c4n i beatz 4 SEeeaEa HorR0ar!?
Sephirotten: no, you can't fight a horror at lvl 7...plus ur a whm for cryin out loud
Imanewbie: I'm teh kING! ChecK m4h l33t sk1llZ!!1!
Imanewbie starts casting Protect.
Imanewbie casts Protect.
Imanewbie gains the effect of Protect.
Synthesis failed. You lost the crystal you were using.
You lost a [Green]Lu Shang's Rod.[/Gold]
Archduke: DAMN IT!!!!!!
Sephirotten: dude that blows...
Imanewbie: r0flfl!!1! j00 suxx0rs!!!!
The Water Elemental hits Imanewbie for 177 point of damage.
Imanewbie was defeated by the Water Elemental.
they should do that as some kinda joke to get some people wrilled up...tell all those up-tight fisherman to relax...lol
Edited: had to make the chat log look better XD (i know i went overboard, but im at work...so im really bored)
Edited, Wed Feb 2 09:01:52 2005
╪═══════════════════════╪ .∙°:( Tranquility ):°∙. /¯’ --- ‘¯\ ~Domicron ╪═══════════════════════╪RDM45, DRK25, WHM16, BLM20, THF15 :D, WAR15
Woodworking = 60, Fishing = 16 Xb
[I can speak a little] [Chocobo] ~kweh~
My name is not meant to be from braveheart! if you would like to know the true origins of my name, i would be more than happy to go over it once again, until then, please dont harass about it^-^ thanks!
-Pearlsack Holder of the DevilzWings
75Rng/67Pld/51Sam/47Blm/40Thf/37Nin/29Rdm
Woodworking72.3+1/Goldsmithing40/Alchemy60
Total Merit points spent:26 Archery=2 Flashy Shot=1 Unlimited Shot=1 Snapshot =1 MP=3 HP=3 STR=1 Critical rate=+1%
Indeed, when my WW was 67 or so, an acquaintance trusted me with her broken Lu and gave me 8 Light Crystals for 8 tries at repairing it. I went oh for 8.
Taru male San d'Orian
75WHM,BRD,RNG,BLM/64WAR/56SMN/52DRK/42SAM/39THF/37RDM,DNC,NIN/34SCH
100 Woodworking and Fishing
60 in all other crafts
(Updated Aug. 13, 2009)
BTW, i dont now what the difference is either. There are no stupid questions. Only stupid answers like:
and
Yew rods will break a lot and are basically only able to get small fish. Lu Shang's is the most durable rod in the game and can catch every possible fish quite consistently. Every serious 50-60+ fisher has a Lu's.
Jobs:
75 BRD
75 MNK
75 WHM
"ill tank white mage style. dying in two hits and causing a horrendous party wipeout."
2 stacks of moat carp a day and i will have to take 15 months to finish the quest. So on days that i can get about 10 stacks a day i will be much happier. This is what i think is the best long way to get money, but you could do the repeatable quest in rabao instead. But with that high skill i can also make +1 bows so i will make even more money
15 months... way to long... I'm hoping to get mine in 3 months max... got 2000 carp in 2 weeks (yes, I had no life and fished all day, but luckily it was at the end of the semester and my exams were over.)
Currently at 2200, but I took a break and leveled cooking some. (still failed too much at lvl 29 with pastes).
I've been using the rod about a day now, and maybe I'm imagining things, but does this rod lessen the recast time for fishing? Seems like I can cast again noticeably quicker.
Anyone know about this?
This is me: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?24753
1181/10000 moat carps turned in as of today ^^
Edited, Mon Dec 13 17:03:21 2004
37 DRK-NIN-BST-WAR-THF
TheStormingForce (family linkshell)
Equilibrium (endgame)
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Seraph Server ~ San d’Oria Rank 10
Cooking 100+2, Fishing 95.9 ~ Ebisu Rod
RoZ/CoP/ToAU/ACP Complete, WotG 08/??
FL Wildcat Badge 34/50, Merits 412
lvl 55
Phoenix
and lu shang rod
which won would be better to sell? here ill do the math
10000 moat carp divide it by 12 (the amount of stacks you could get out of 10000 moat carp) then u get 833.333333(repeated decimal) times this number by 4000 (the price of a stack of moat carp) equals 3333333.333 strangly enough if u round all this up it comes to this conclusion
3,333,334 (10,000 moat carp)
-3,000,000 (lu shang road price)
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333,334 (profit of the fish instead of the lu shang road)
TOTAL CONCLUSION IS!!!!!!!!! LU SHANG ROAD IS BETTER FOR THE FISHER MEN
AND!!!!!!!!!!! 10,000 MOAT CARP IS BETTER FOR THE BUSINESS MEN
---crazy
Redo your math, because you neglected the fact that you get 100 gil for each moat carp you turn in.
10000/12 = 834 stacks (rounded)
834*4000 = 3,336,000 gil (selling all on AH)
834*1200 = 1,000,800 gil (turning all in NPC)
Lu Shang = 3,000,000 gil (cost at AH ~post)
Quest Total = 4,000,800 gil
Therefore, the business man would complete the quest and sell the rod making a 664,800 gil profit over selling all the carp at AH.
Of course if you have the capital and Lu Shang sells on your server, you could always buy 834 stacks of carp and complete the quest for a profit. Much faster than fishing. Oops..did I let out a secret?
75 Drg/War Rank 10
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(ps no offence if ur jewish or german ^_-)
Better deal to trade the fish for the quest than sell it on AH if you're going for the rod. You get 666k more gil that way.
75BLU/75BST/75THF/75WHM/63RNG/60SCH
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I've started recently (3 days ago... heh... but I'm working at it). Right now I'm pulling in 180 carp per day on average (I've gotten 549 Moat Carp in 3 days). at 180 carp a day, you get about... 1260 carp a week, at that rate, it would take me 8 weeks to finish the quest. And... in that 8 Weeks, I will get 1 million gil (minus the cost of bait, but I can make my own pastes, so it's not too bad), Hero lvl fame in sandy, and the lu shang's rod.
180 carp a day right now is my going rate, but my goal over all is to pull in 1000 carp a week on average.
Will post completion chat dialog once I get to it.
Killxor 30 RDM 15 WHM
Ifrit Server
"This certifies that you have gathered no less than ten thousand moat carp. Please spend your time in a manner more beneficial to society. Your achievement is noteworthy for its utter lack of meaning."
With heartfelt disapproval,
Gallijaux and Joulet
I was kinda upset at the lack of respect above...but I have the rod and have gotten 3 skill levels in a night from it, along with quite a few stacks of some expensive fish! Now to get woodworking higher.....*frown*
Edited, Thu Jul 8 16:13:37 2004
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