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Ifrit AH Pricing
# Oct 25 2009 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Currently going for around 1.2-1.4 million on Ifrit.
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# Sep 24 2007 at 12:30 PM Rating: Decent
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**** I read lots of stupid *** posts here lol.....

-You can't equip two avenger's earring, they are rare.
- You can't tank and keep hate with monk using "boost". (dumbass)
- Spartans are not better then these.
- You couldnt have seen a guy in ballista use berserk,sneak attack, and soul eater. (dumbass)
- -10 evasion helps with counters, that is not a downside to this weapon.
- "MNK is an EXTREMELY equipment oriented job, WHM can skimp by and do just fine" ( ever seen RMT white mages? Thats is the #1 job in your party as well as your tank, that needs good gear... its very noticeable, We couldnt get a chain 2 on lesser colibres cause of rest time, I look at the whm and boom, he has level 5 gear at lvl 58, he was also a taru and couldnt chain.

- Theres more stupid post, but hey, I'll save those for next week's episode of "dumbass Alla posts"
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# Oct 05 2007 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
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I agree with most of what you said, though I don't know partying.

However, I know for certain that you can wear two Avenger's Earrings. I am doing so in Unicorn right now. They are not rare. Thanks to them, I have a total of +11 counter after a latent effect.
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cross-counters
# May 24 2007 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Its only 1.2 - 1.5 mil on leviathan server, and can i get a yes or no to if this drops from a nm or in this BCNM.
CC performance and the new update
# Apr 05 2007 at 9:41 AM Rating: Good
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Just a quick review for those below questioning CC. Yes, there is a very substantial amount of increase in DMG when using CC's vs. TM hooks+2. However, that only remains untill level 70+. As you get closer to 75 TMhooks and your Martial Arts traits make TM's start to pull ahead in raw DoT. But CC will always net the higher WS dmg. I used CC and moved right into destroyers, I only felt weaker parse-wise from 70->73 when against my WAR/nin static friend. (and 55->63 was difficult too, **** that rampage!)


As far as the new update goes, does anyone know where these drop now? Are they even available in the game anymore? Most likely the CC's moved to a BCNM/KSNM drop and the shadow only drops the Rare/ex version. I spoke with a thief out in fei'yin he's seen 2 pairs of the rare/ex version (retaliators) in 6 claims. So the drop rate isnt too bad, but then again, thats with TH2.
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# Sep 25 2006 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
nice photoshop skills Gassynth
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# Nov 16 2006 at 6:16 AM Rating: Default
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RepeatingYesterday wrote:
nice photoshop skills Gassynth


You noticed that too?

Lmao, what a complete looser to take someone else's mug and slap his name over his in a very poor artistic manner. Gassynth fails.

What the h-ell is Pikko thinking about posting it to begin with? Give me a couple of months and I'll give him a legit pic.
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# Feb 19 2007 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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It's about the Item, not the player. Too bad you don't understand. You are probally too young to understand. Oh well, back to looking for more nms to camp, for me.
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# Sep 13 2006 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
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very nice. For solo the - evasion isnt bad since the +5 counter makes up for it.
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# Sep 08 2006 at 8:22 AM Rating: Decent
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I just bought these little secksies yeseterday, down to 3.5M on Ifrit, they ARE worth the hype
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Cross Counters
# Apr 12 2006 at 9:07 AM Rating: Decent
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These are nice, no doubt.

But really, a MNK can live without them.
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# Sep 13 2006 at 1:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Awesome equip.. The - evasion really doesnt hurt since the + 5 Counter is amazing for solo..
Just an question...
# Feb 02 2006 at 9:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Just looking for an honest answer, which im pretty sure i already know the answer to but it never hurts to ask.
On an elvaan monk with decent acc gear and sushi as food, in EXP PT'S, do these truely show up the TM Hooks +2? I only mean in EXP pt's, not for PVP.
Just an question...
# Jul 05 2006 at 7:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I was borrowing a pair of TM+2 hooks, to do my own conclusive study, and found my damage to be almost exactly the same with CCs or with TM+2 hooks. It was merely 20 rounds each, but they parsed almost exactly the same. I might do another section of more rounds each and post the parsed results. The difference was in favour of the CCs by .4 in average, but the main thing was that the differences between low and high were a bit better on the CCs...

With Counterstance up, these really shine though, as I used to get one or two counters when I'd take hate in a fight, now I frequently get double that. I've gone 9/10 and 13/15 for countered attacks against IT mobs (mostly in KRT though)...

Hope that helps.
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# Jan 16 2006 at 2:21 AM Rating: Decent
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that way i can either retire and then have the necessary time to camp this monkey,



Edited, Oct 22nd 2006 at 2:58am PDT by IamsoBob
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# Dec 20 2005 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
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you cant counter if the mob misses you
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# Oct 27 2005 at 5:21 PM Rating: Default
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These are definatly better in ballista and in hnm fights then kraken club, kraken club is so expensive because of its cool to hit a mob 8x. ok even if a mnk has subtle blow it still builds the mob ur hitting's tp alot. and as we all know a mobs ws is more painful then yours most of the time, for ballista which i do often mnk seems to get picked on to build tp so if you return those blows to your enemy its very nice and chances are they will back off attacking you as much for the rest of the fight, however they are both extremly beastly weapons. mnk is just made for hand 2 hand and not club, counterattack doesnt help in hnm that much unless your tank(s) die and you ahve to tank while they are being raised/laughed at by party members/random on lookers hope this helps. Oh and this is also alot cheaper then k. club. k.club is 60m on lakshimi and this is only a couple mill
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# Dec 12 2005 at 5:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Cheap server. These are going for 13-15mil on Kujata. I think Kraken broke 100m lately. think it was somewhere around 130.
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RE: weapons
# Dec 27 2005 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Cross Counters have gone from 5-13 mil in 4 months. I addition your guys servers are rediculously cheap with the kraken club... Alexander is at least 300,000,000 for it >.<
RE: weapons
# Aug 29 2006 at 2:18 PM Rating: Decent
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umm...correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't max gil only 99,999,999...so how is it 300,000,000 on alexander???
RE: weapons
# Nov 05 2006 at 3:10 AM Rating: Decent
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No, max gil is higher than 99.9mil
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RE: weapons
# Jan 15 2006 at 3:16 PM Rating: Default
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One of my past acquaintences who plays the AH game, where you buy things from bazaars and sell on ah for more(for ppl who had no idea what that was), offered me 18mil for mine, when he was there when i bought em last jan for 5.7. They are now resting at about 25mil on the waay inflated Kujata server. And btw these things rock for me in my situation. I run around with a 75whm (i am 74mnk/war) and i have these and Avengers earrings. I counterstance zerk focus dodge and tank the living crap outta things. my gf likes to brag that i beat Sea Horror nearly solo(whm para slow it and haste me) 3 times in 2 hours only getting hit like 10-15 times total. Haha look at that and say they are useless or that Spartans are better... Btw all you lower level monks, i used these up til 74 and still use them in ptys now and again. Just waiting to unlock my destroyers. But, and this is to Zemariah, I AM NOT SELLING EM....EVER. Lol happy reading kiddies.
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# Sep 27 2005 at 10:25 PM Rating: Default
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pardon me... he had Blood Greaves and Blood Cuisses. And i know he has the best gear money can possibly buy... because his gil is limitless... (no joke... i mean, i'm sure it has a limit, but no one's ever seen it, a guy in his LS stole 45,000,000 gil from him, and a kraken club, and the next day he pops up with another kraken club <_<) and pointing out he had Utsusemi Ni/Ichi shows that he had copy images to defend himself (just saying he wasnt defenseless) and no... he never used anything... i saw him drain maybe twice, and he never used an ability (not souleater, not last resort, not anything) he used stun only to hit ppl running from him... and he would just stare at them (ok <_<)... the mnk... well he deserves way more credit than i give him, and ppl use provoke in ballista bud... believe it or not, it ails a stat (not sure, which, but it does) and... maybe it was the reifer but i could swear it stopped a blm's casting... and he did use berserk (i was just too amazed that he gave a dude, who's credably one of the best DRKs on the server a beating)... so... before you spout off at someone before even taking a look into anything, back off, think about it, then speak... and if he has gear worth more than your account... i'm pretty **** sure it's goddly but who knows... maybe Shprai is what you would classify as goddly... and if that's the case, this DRK has the 3/4 form of his relic weapon... so there ya go he has goddly gear
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Cross Counters vs. Kraken
# Sep 26 2005 at 9:34 AM Rating: Decent
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To the person who said that a Kraken club beats cross counters, I would like to kindly disagree, at least from a ballista point of view. If you tried to use a Kraken club against a monk with Cross Counters + Counterstance on, I think that plenty of your hits would come right back to your face.
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# Aug 31 2005 at 8:41 PM Rating: Decent
To the little noob who posted about his ''friend'' having all this so called godly gear. I think you should know that Bloody Boots and Bloody Greaves are actually the same thing.

As for pointing out that he has ni and ichi it makes you even more of a noob. Also, I don't know who would use provoke in Ballista. You should have watched abilities like Berserk or Souleater to notice which sub he had on.

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# Feb 15 2006 at 4:38 PM Rating: Default
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Also, I don't know who would use provoke in Ballista.


Maybe someone who wanted to paralyze him? Provoke is like a paralyze effect in ballista, but as a monk with these I would rather not paralyze him and let his kraken club own the **** outta him from counterstance and these weapons.
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#shukaku, Posted: Aug 16 2005 at 12:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) LOL!!!! this has nothing to do with Cross counters... but i'd just like to laugh in the guy's face that made the Kraken club statement... i have a friend, he's DRK/NIN (with Utsusemi Ni/Ichi), and has a Kraken Club, Bloody Sword, Bloody Greaves, Bloody Boots, Peacock Charm, Hauberk +1, Thick Mufflers +1, and... Wyvern helm, and Bomb Core... pretty goddly eh? wellllllll.....
RE: kraken club! dont make me 'LOL'
# Mar 16 2006 at 3:22 PM Rating: Good
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Dayum, joo is teh uber n00b
drop rate
# Jul 16 2005 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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These things are 6-8mil on my server and I was wondering what the drop rate was.
Cross-counters Vs. Spartans
# Jul 11 2005 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I dunno I don't see how thier can be a debate on which set of knuckles is better, IMO Hands down Cross-counters take it. From a mathmatical standpoint atleast, think about it For every damage in cross-counters comes 5.05 delay(roughly) Meaning add 1 more damage to Cross-counters(19+1) and thier delay would still be(101.5) 11 delay shorter with the same damage as spartans, then take ino consideration the 1 more accuracy nad 5 counter. I may be wrong in looking at it that way but that makes me cme to the conclusion in my head Cross-counters are better. Please someone oppose me so Ihave more to think about^^?
#Pifuaa, Posted: Jul 05 2005 at 2:16 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Unfortunately Cross-Counters do not beat Monk/Nin 75 with Kraken in off-hand, so you can use your melee skills instead of club skills. And since Kraken hits so much you build god TP.
RE: Cross-Counters NOT the best...
# Dec 07 2005 at 3:17 AM Rating: Default
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Err... what? You can't equip something in your offhand without a main hand weapon. Hand to Hand can't be used with anything except a shield.
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# Jul 01 2005 at 3:02 AM Rating: Decent
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theres totally no way i'm going to get this, 7 mil on my server, i i'm 0/40+ on all NM's that drop anything remotely valuable. I cant solo this and theres noway imma get 7mil i never even seen 2 mil >_< i hate this NM garrr
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**** it all get a spharai :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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# Jun 16 2005 at 10:45 PM Rating: Decent
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bastien eat **** and die, and burn in ****
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# Jun 16 2005 at 10:43 PM Rating: Good
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im from caitsith and there is someone named BAstien on this server he is a ******* **** you i hate u go suck **** ******* eat **** and die.
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# Mar 30 2005 at 10:21 AM Rating: Decent
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5 Million on gilgamesh.

Talk about the monk "ouch"

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Geared up.
# Feb 12 2005 at 5:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Lvl 30.. Berserk! Ochidos's Kote!
Lvl 40.. Jujistu-Gi!
Lvl 41.. Avenger's Earings x 2!
Lvl 50.. omg I hope these.
Lvl 61.. Carapace Armor & Helm..
Lvl 62.. Muscle Belt+1 Macro..

Oh and the Latent Effect: Counter + 2 ring is nice on swap.

And those cool boots! Kung-fu, Wulong, or Dune XD

Yeah, heh, dreams are nice ;)

P.S. I love every point of -evasion I have. It helps to get more Guard skil ups. I hope to someday cap Guard T-T
RE: Geared up.
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RE: Geared up.
# Apr 03 2005 at 10:24 PM Rating: Decent
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are you even a monk? carapace armor wtf lol
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RE: Geared up.
# May 28 2005 at 1:23 AM Rating: Decent
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lol hes talking about the carapace armor that has LE attack + and def +... its good for soloing cuz LE activates in yellow HP. somewhat hmmm crap? for PT tho lol
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RE: Geared up.
# Jun 11 2005 at 3:00 PM Rating: Decent
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only the hands go off on yellow hp.
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