it's the second most beautiful sword in the game after sanguine sword
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Macuahuitl +1 [Main] All Races DPS: 978 DMG:37 Delay:227 Accuracy-4 Attack+11 Enmity+4 LV 65 WAR RDM PLD DRK BLU COR
Save The Queen [Main] All Races DPS: 1000 DMG:40 Delay:240 "Cover"+1 Latent effect: Accuracy+20 LV 65 PLD
Obviously, the Attack +11 and the Enmity +4 on Macahuitl +1 is like *drewlz* to a PLD, when attacking normally... But using Save the Queen during a Vorpal Blade would be effing sweet... But unequipping and re-equipping a weapon kills all your TP...
*sobs into her Gallant Gauntlets* WHAT DO I DO?!?!?!?
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so many people have problems thinking outside the box. I just recently purchased this sword for 90k on unicorn. from my understanding its said the latent effect is during cover. If that is true, why not 'keep the sword equipped' cover's cool down is very short. build tp to 100+ use an equip macro for acc/str/mnd gear. then cover someone before you WS? O_o seeings how both vorpal blade and swift blade are multiple hits, i see this sword eliminating spirits within and bringing in more hate with a 300-450dmg hit per every 100tp as opposed to 500-700dmg every 300tp. the cover+1 effect would also make this easier to do.
Moreover, The nin sub is a good idea for some situations, but in exp party i stick to the ways pld was meant to tank. war sub also offers an str boost and berserk, much more suitable for the modifiers. =)
when to cover and ws (example: before your first voke in battle) after all, i don't know about other plds but I personally gain atleast 100tp per battle as is. =) (65PLD/32WAR)
This sword isnt useless. I can see it used in macro for cover, or something along thos line's. But I know there are some better weapons out there that probably would be more useful for PLD.
However I hear a lot of people bashing Cover when they should'nt. Cover is an useful tool if the PLD uses it, and uses it corectly, at the right time. If I ever heared a PLD say that Cover is an useless abbility, I would have left that PT the moment I heared it, cus I can't tell you how meny time's its saved mine (main WHM) or the BLM's ass, and if a PLD cant see the use of Cover, then that PLD does not know how to use his job properly.
ok there are 2 conditions here im not sure of for the latent obviously cover must be active, so here are my questions
1: do you need to be in front of the person your covering for the latent
and 2: does the other person need to have hate for the latent
#1 doesnt bother me too much cause i usually have someone behind me. if you dont need the #2 condition to be met, this sword would be excellent for vorpal blade. +20 ACC means i can take out some acc and add more str to my vorpals.
Oh! So they did accept it. ^^ That's me, Eufrasi of Kujata server. I must say that this sword was worth the 150k I payed for it, even if I only used it for a single level before I upgraded to an Espadon.
this swords rly that great at all 20+ acc would be great but latent effects dont rly work when u want them and a good pld doesnt need cover+1 u should be able to keep hate no matter what
Also fyi (just in case nobody said this) this item's latent effect activates when you use cover. A very fitting name to the latent effect's trigger. Although a more accurate name would b "Save the Black/White mage" or somethin along those lines lol.
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this swords rly that great at all 20+ acc would be great but latent effects dont rly work when u want them and a good pld doesnt need cover+1 u should be able to keep hate no matter what
No offense, but you have obviously never played a tank job, or if you have, have been unfortunate to do so with very underpar DD's.
Hate managment is the entire PT's responsibility, and noone can keep hate if someone decides that they absolutely want it right then.
Please do yourself a favor, and read some of the posts on Hate control, before making broad (and incorrect) statements on a public forum.
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Does anyone know what the duration increase is for cover? I figure if anything you could Dual Wield 2 of these subbing Ninja during an HNM fight when you aren't the main tank. Put up your shadows then run in and cover occasionally to give the main tank a breather. Once your shadows run out or cover duration is over, move out of the way again.
And I'll say it again, the vast majority of the community firmly believes that +20 Accuracy is only in effect when Cover is active. They're probably correct :/
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It is a long sword, and it does improve Acc, by a good noticeable amount. It certainly is not a peice of crap, it has its uses just like any other weapon... as they say, one mans junk is another mans treasure. I am a 75 pld and I've used this sword from 65, alternating with Durandal when I need the def boost.
This sword sucks, it doesn't provide any use for pld, it could work if you macros to equip it when cover is active, but kind of worthless in my opinion.
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I disagree, I think that although the sword is only good when covor is active, it's a great sword to use in EXPing while switching Company Sword in for the times you are not planning on using covor, or the times you don't.
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let's see... Beatrix had this sword in FFIX and Quitis in FFVIII had a whip named Save the Queen. I also think that you can make this sword in FFX... but whatever, this is a great sword :)
how is this really expensive!? lol its like somewhere around 150-250k on siren... not really very expensive...
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Carbuncle PLDs are Gluttony happy until they can equip the Durandal which i think is around 3-5million (not too sure)... I got my Save the Queen for 70k :/
NOw wouldn't you do a PLD/NIN with this just like you said, but then add + enmity gear so you get hate more. YOu would hit harder getting for hate that way and then there are the + enmity gera you could have as well. I would like to see PLD without the WAR sub more often, but then again you could just not be tank. . .
apperantly, a friend of mine went to an exp party as pld53/whm26 (forgot to change sub) and was able to control hate without difficulty, and was actually complimented on his tanking by other party members.
not that most people would ever try that, just saying that it's possible to NOT sub warrior and do well. therefore, the possible uses of this weapon increases, yes?
From my experience, the latent trigger is indeed yellow hp. I came to this conclusion by comparing hit rates with Gluttony Sword, Espadon and Save the Queen. I kept a "steep" DEX penalty on, so that the effect of Accuracy+20 would be more noticeable. Simply put, staying around yellow HP and fighting VT->IT mobs, the Save the Queen had a higher hit rate by about 15% over the course of an hour vs. an hour each for the other two swords. Cover was never used.
The Save the Queen's hit rate should be higher than Gluttony, because of the DEX penalty (albeit only DEX-1). However, the Espadon and Save the Queen both have no DEX penalty. And the hit rate for the Save the Queen was still better.
I pack the Save the Queen with me myself and am grateful that I bought it cheap from a PLD that thought it was a piece of crap.
I prefer Gluttony anyday over Save the Queen, latent effect is close if not already worthless, especially for a PLD that has to have HP up in case of an special attack that might kill when life is on yellow.
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Yeah this sword is my dream sword, its worth 500k in Midgardsormr in Jeuno. This Sword is off of, FF9 (Beatrix) FF8 (Qustis) FFT (Med, and her family carry it)
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Posted:Feb 15 2004 at 11:43 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Latent effect means when your HP is down a certain range in percent, the effect will kick in. IN other words, You need to watch your HP, and when it changes color due to taking a certain amount of damage, the latent effect will kick in.
Latent effect means when your HP is down a certain range in percent, the effect will kick in. IN other words, You need to watch your HP, and when it changes color due to taking a certain amount of damage, the latent effect will kick in.
Wrong. There are many different ways that latent effects are triggered. <Yellow HP is just one of those and mainly applies to the lv50 Job-specific rings, not this sword.
All latent effect means is that a certain condition has to be met before it will work.
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Posted:Feb 14 2004 at 9:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I bought this on Alexander for 280k, it sold for about 1mil+ like a month ago.
I really want to know what latent effect is. I have seen it on the treat staff with latent effect "warp" so it would be nice to know. Thanks in advance.
it was in a number of final fantasy games, however, it's origin is Final Fantasy Tactics, it was one of Orlandu(Thunder God Cid)'s weapons, with his all-swordskill ability
Save the queen and save the king are final fantasy classic weapons. SE puts them in a lot of there games. They are the "Ultimate" weapons for donald and goofy in kingdom hearts as well
Save The Queen was also a whip used by Quistis in FFVIII if I'm correct. Guess it might be a tradition, like the Enhancing Sword goes back to FFVI, Leviathan goes back to FFV, and there's been a "Cid" in every Final Fantasy game
sorry i couldnt help myself.. i never even go back to posts but ff1 had no cid he was in every game 2 and up
and i think biggs and wedge (starwars fans know these names >.>) were started in ff3/6
i believe meteor and the "ultima/omega" weapons whether actuall weapons or named mobs have been around forever i think
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Latent pretty much means hidden. Hence the fact that people have to find out how to activate the effect.
Blatent, being the opposite of latent, is obvious. Like this is a blatently crappy sword, since everyone knows PLD don't do dmg outside of spirits within.
well thats not technically true...the other day i did a 426 swift blade + 566 darkness off a distortion...the party coudlnt believe it and neither could i.
and no i had no DD gear at all i had normal tank stuff
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this should be in Off-Topic fourm. You posted this in wrong fourm. It has nothing to do with FFXIgeneral discussion.
The OOT's official standpoint is that it doesn't belong in the OOT either.
this sword says latent effect accuracy +20 what does that mean? is it a proced effect or is it a worn effect? (sorry EQ nut here looking at moving over) dont really know much about effects and such yet. anyone have a Screen cap of this wep btw? email me one if ya do ^_^ Otakuman523@msn.com
God I want this sword so bad. Just the name sends quivers up my spine. It sells for less than a million @ CaitSith. = D
Does anybody know if this is a longsword, shortsword, gladius, bastard, or none of the above? If it is a longsword (and I bet it is, but just wanna be sure), and somebody could confirm it, that would be great. =)
You get this By killing Antican Praefectus, but he aint all that easy. You will at least need a well trusted party of 70+, With the new lvl Cap a good lvl 75 might be able to solo it.
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Posted:Dec 21 2003 at 8:20 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) A lv 67 Nin/War is duel wielding two in bastok,Sylph....WTF did he get that much money
God i want this blade so bad! Please post if u find out how i can get one, tell me where i can find it or off of whatever monster drops it, if u can't do that tell me how much it was in AH if u see it has been sold there.
This is the first "unique" sword that I have noticed in the game that is sorta nostalgic for the series. I'm sure there are other weapons in this game that have been in the series, but I'm referring to the more powerful "unique" weapons like the Masamune, Holy Lance, Excalibur, Atma/Ultima Weapon... Its good to find that the game is grasping on to some of the nostalgia that helps make the series as great as it is. I hope to see more of these pop up!