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Better than +1's
# Dec 16 2007 at 11:50 PM Rating: Decent
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I myself use TH hooks +1 because I suck at getting money (however due to some amazing luck and generous friends I have a Brown belt and scorpion harness).

I mainly didn't think the +2 hooks were neccessary compared to the extrodinarily cheaper +1's, however, I do plan on upgrading to Spartans as soon as i can. What sucks is that even though I can afford them AND equip them, there are none on the auction house... -_-;

Anyway, while TH Hooks +2 may contend with the cesti, +1 users should upgrade, because (at least on ifrit) the cesti are only about 70k...
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# Oct 19 2006 at 10:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm getting a pair today so I'll finally get some elite weapons.
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#seanythechavslayer, Posted: Feb 24 2006 at 1:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) well ive read some of the threads nd seen how much you are payin for them, havent read them all, so dont no if this has been said, but in Asura these sell for about 5 million, we got hit hard by the gilsellers, scorpion harness has hit 20-30 million
Hmm...
# Dec 31 2005 at 6:37 AM Rating: Decent
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I am indeed, impressed by these over TM Hooks+2, but only for: Soloing (Icky -10 def), I can do over 1k with Raging Fists, and they have some acc on 'em. TM hooks are great, too, but Spartans are making me feel all DRKish since I can bust out pretty groovy RF numbers. I'm keeping both, however....
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Spartans Vs Detroyers
# Nov 08 2005 at 5:40 PM Rating: Decent
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you know i've ptied along side mnks that use these and i wasnt impressed at all. my per punch damage was in the same range as these. i use TM+2 btw.
but i wonder if you guys have looked at the destroyers. the latent effect of these is removed just like the trail weapons. and a 6% increase in critical hit rate is very noticeable. not to mention only giving up +2 damage and dropping +70 off your delay makes these better than spartans by far imo.
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# Sep 23 2005 at 12:56 AM Rating: Default
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Nah... just nah. T.M. Hooks+2 owns these IMO. 4 DMG for -40 delay and 10 ATT, awesome. I take T.M.+2 over these anyday. Also on Kujata, last time I checked, Spartans were about 600k-1000k more than T.M.+2.
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patience
# Sep 04 2005 at 11:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Spartans 2.3 mil. Okote 2.9 mil on Ifrit. Now lets hear all that complaining of 600k equips...
600k equips!! we should all be so lucky
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RE: patience
# Feb 25 2006 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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Okote 4-6mil on Siren last time i checked. prices have dropped drasticaly tho (used to be 10-12 mil).
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# Jul 08 2005 at 10:57 PM Rating: Decent
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BS
# Jun 30 2005 at 2:33 PM Rating: Default
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Spartan Cestis suck the big one ^^.
You need fuma kayhan, brown belt, and a whm to haste you 100% of the time your fighting for these to even match my claws. 1.5mil wasted. And anyone who uses these without all the +haste equip should be drug out into Bastok and /slapped to death.
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# Jun 13 2005 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
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I have these and TM Hooks+2... I'm selling Spartan's back. I'm not impressed >.> I'd rather have slightly less damage and faster attack.
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# Jun 04 2005 at 3:30 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm up to 1,000,000/1,400,000 for spartans now (b'.')b

Now just 400k more, and 2 more levels and I can put these bad **** knucks on!
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# May 21 2005 at 4:55 AM Rating: Default
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Spartans are great to have, noone that is a true mnk should say otherwise, i do not own a pair myself, yet, and i am currently at 68 since 50 i have been using Cross-Counters and i love em they costed me 3 mil, and yesterday i decided to sell them so i can fund rng, sold them for 6mil O_O;;
but i will be picking up a pair of spartans whether i bcnm them or buy which is currently @ 3mil on garuda -_- , shivas claws really are not the great i think, i have a pair and they dont perform for what a mnk is, however if i do not buy spartans i'll be using feral fangs, im not big on GOD/HNM so i will most likely never own a pair of indras, i think i will go for the Destroyers once i get into the 70's if not ill pick up spartans for sure, i dislike seeing mnks using 0 delay cestis, i mean for farming is one thing, and sure you can get tp faster, perfect example had 2 friends in a bone PT in king ranps tomb, one using indras the other using 0 delay cestis, (Vishnus i think) sure he would gain tp fast but average Asuran Fists DMG was 400, as to the other mnk using indras was doin 1000-1200 Asuran do the math low delay delay low dmg cannot match high delay hi dmg in any way, my mnk setup is nothing great 2 mermans earring 2 snipers ring spike necklace, brown belt and life belt amemit +1 all AF and up until yesterday cross-counters,

mnk is my second highest job and i love it to death, but i just like to xp so i will never go hardcore on a single job maybe once i get all my favorable jobs to 75, mnk would be a 1st pick to stack with the best gear ... well GL to all
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# Jan 11 2007 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
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if you don't have a pair, how can you say that no true monk should be w/o them? you have no idea of what they are like, so until you own them keep your "you NEED them" to yourself
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# May 03 2005 at 7:05 AM Rating: Decent
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http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=11&mid=1114539786572225737&num=36

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# Apr 25 2005 at 9:22 AM Rating: Decent
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right now, 1.5 million on Cait Sith T-T

as for all the discussion on the 'huge delay' of the Spartans, it's not really noticable, considering with Martial Arts IV you get at level 46, your base H2H delay is 340. Tack on +113 from the Spartan's you have 453. Then lets say you have Brown Belt, which is Haste +8%. 453*0.92= 416. AND THEN, when you hit 61, you get another Martial Arts upgrade, which reduces your base H2H delay to 320. Redoing the forementioned calculation, 320+113= 433*0.92= 398. So, with that 'huge delay' you get from Spartan Cesti, your total delay pre-level 61 is 416, and post-level 61, your total delay is 398. Not too shabby for one of the best knuckles in the game with 'huge delay' ~_^

Edited, Mon Apr 25 17:47:13 2005
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# Mar 26 2005 at 3:01 AM Rating: Default
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For the nice and common monk that is.. Till the gilsellers hit us hard, like a hurricane the Zoe's upmarched. Suddenly spartans hit 900k (were like 500k when I started) O Kote were 450k when I started, 1 mil now, and Juji gi? When I was 40 I bought that for 150k! Now they're 500k! My brown belt I got at level 48 was 300 someodd K, now its 900k
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# Mar 23 2005 at 7:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Damn! You guys are LUCKY! Spartans cost around 2 million, and O.Kotes cost about 1 mil on Gilgamesh. Blah. After reading up on some stuff, I think I'll prob try my hardest saving up for these bad boys. I would also love to have Avengers, but the change of getting them is slim. Wish me luck....
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# Feb 16 2005 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
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i'm lvl32mnk and looking up the higher lvled weapons...anyway i think that the spartan is the best weapon for 58 till about 72 if i saw the right lvl for the higher weapons that is but i'm not sure i'd have to re-check

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Spartan
# Dec 23 2004 at 6:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hello, I'm a 69 (70 tonight) MNK on Ramuh. I'm quite good at my job and try hard to have the best equipment available.

Now, Spartan Cesti V.S. Shiva's Claws/Feral Patas/Stun Jamhadrs.

I've used all 3 in xp parties, and being an elvaan MNK you would think I would go with Shiva, but Shiva really aren't that great. Hitting IT mobs with a low DMG weapon like Shiva claws is really horrible ^^; Spartan on the hand, although the delay hurts a little, the DMG makes up for it (especially considering WHM and RDM are good about hasting MNK). Also lets not forget that Spartan will give you 6%tp per hit, as oppossed to 4% from Shiva, and 5% from Stun and Feral Patas (extrememly nice, and helps you keep your WS coming as often as those with Shiva). Then WS wise, you will do a good 100-350 (from what I've experimented with) DMG more than Shiva (200 more than stun, and 100-200 more than feral).

So, if you want to be the best MNK, Spartan is the way to go. If you don't have snipers or other ACC gear, then go with Shiva.

Personally, I'm using Spartan till Indra Katars, and I may play with Avengers a bit if I get my LS to take me (although I have more than enough ATT+ as it is ^-^/). Well, hope I helped, just wanted to throw my 2 cents in from a MNK who loves his job~

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RE: Spartan
# Mar 02 2005 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
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What's your opinion on Spartans vs. Cross-Counters? Just curious.
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RE: Spartan
# Feb 02 2005 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Yay a MNK who knows his stuff! Rate up! I totaly agree Spartans are the best till Indras. Alota people look at the Delay and are disgusted but what they dont understand is, is that H2H delay IS NOT like a sword or axe's Delay. 113 delay is lke a second slower than say a 96 delay at 60+. and at 71+ u wont even see a noticible difference. Alota people think Vishnus with +0 delay must be godly... I can guarantee its not .. even at 75... u would still need like a ton of haste gear (worth millions) to come close to perma hundred fist. Any good mnk worth there salt will know the weapon upgrade should ALWAYS go tct.hooks > Spartans/Bone Patas+1 > Spartans/Feral Fangs > Spartans/Avengers/Indras/Spharai (end game). Spartans last for 15 levels... and are end game weapons.
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Prices on Fairy
# Dec 04 2004 at 10:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi i just want to know what r the prices of this on fairy. I plan to get hese when i hit 58 and keep them until Sphara(yeah right). So anyone plz let me know the prices so i can buy ahead of time
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# Nov 20 2004 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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1.2 mil for these right now = /
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# Sep 30 2004 at 12:05 AM Rating: Decent
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Spartan Cesti's is the best weapon I've bought so far in the game ... 600k ... So much farming spent .. Ahh well... The reactions I get from people are worth it... "Seeing you in action ...Makes me want to play as Monk" ^^ Great weapon ...
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/wait mishap
# Sep 24 2004 at 8:17 PM Rating: Decent
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[quote][/quote]

/wait only goes up to 20 so it would have to be
/wait 20
/wait 20
/wait 20
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RE: /wait mishap
# Oct 10 2004 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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No, they changed this a long time ago. I think wait can go up to 90 now... My sister's Tele-shout macro has /wait 60 in it...
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nvm
# Sep 15 2004 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
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nvm, didnt notice too much of a difference between these and bone patas+1
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# Sep 15 2004 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
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how much more dmg does +1 dmg do?
not nearly
# Sep 08 2004 at 6:32 PM Rating: Decent
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there are two higher dmg/better H2H weapons and that is indra katars and spharai (lol gl EVER getting spharai the cost of weapon and the upgrades it needs is some where around 100mil =P)

Edited, Wed Sep 8 19:32:52 2004
RE: not nearly
# Oct 18 2004 at 2:59 AM Rating: Decent
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AFII weapons are always a pain to get, and they all include Weapon Specific WS that only that weapon can use. I think having AFII is more bragging rights and enjoyment of the game and its end-game content.
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RE: not nearly
# Oct 05 2004 at 1:51 PM Rating: Good
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RE: not nearly
# Oct 05 2004 at 1:51 PM Rating: Good
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Quote:
there are two higher dmg/better H2H weapons and that is indra katars and spharai (lol gl EVER getting spharai the cost of weapon and the upgrades it needs is some where around 100mil =P)
Over Rated IMO
# Aug 23 2004 at 3:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Im a 69 monk on Odin and i currently use shivas claws. After going out and leveling in bone parties with other monks i just have to comment on these weapons. The high delay on these cesti is very apparent. To make up for low damage i use two str rings, and given the fact that im elvaan having the highest str in class Shivas claws low damage does not sacrafice much in this area for me. The acc bonus on the claws is SICK! These were made for elvaan monks. Not too mention they were free, and with haste I hit two times faster than a monk using sparten cesti. Ive always felt its better to be smart than rich. well thats it!
gods hand
# Aug 08 2004 at 6:46 PM Rating: Decent
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these's are gods hands in the making i mean till ya get the other one's that have +23 dmg and other plus stats, but still these are hard to get for all i know
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Expense
# Aug 04 2004 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent
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I think Cerberus just might be the most expensive server. >< lol Ochiudo's Kote are 600k+ and these Cesti are about 900k.
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RE: Expense
# Jan 12 2005 at 7:47 PM Rating: Good
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800k for kote and 1.4 million for spartans on kujata...
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RE: Expense
# Mar 07 2005 at 12:27 AM Rating: Decent
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1m on ochiudo's kote and the same for spartans. 450k for jujitsu gi......<3 valefor.
Lv. 60 Martial Arts III?
# Jul 06 2004 at 9:48 PM Rating: Decent
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A fellow MNK friend of mine was telling why Spartan Cesti are great. I told him i disliked the delay time. He sed that at lv. 60 or 61 there is supposed to be a Martial Arts III wich basicly makes that huge Delay non aparent. This is also the reason why lots of MNK like these cesti for xp pt. I check the Abilities section of the MNK job to confirm. But it seems its not there. But then again... it coulda been eronius. Im currently timing my atk's with a stop watch on my current weapons (Bone Patas +1 Delay +78). By the time i hit 61 i will buy myself a pair of Spartans (450k on Carbuncle) and see if it comes close or surpasses my old H2H Weps. IM a MNK58 right now so ill know soon.
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Hmm
# Jun 18 2004 at 3:34 PM Rating: Decent
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This is a really strong Cestus weapon. The +20 to damage means you can deliver strong hits, but the +113 delay means there will be a large amount of time between attacks - similar to Dual-Wielding Axes.

I think I saw a Monk with these and he said his 2-hour Macro was

/equip weapon "Spartan Cesti"
/ja "Hundred Fists" <me>
/wait 60
/equip weapon "Stun Jamadhars" (his current weapon)
Spartan
# Feb 12 2004 at 7:50 PM Rating: Default
i think these have amongst the highest damage available, high delay too but you also get some ACC, i asked a monk about where he got them cause i want them myself (in 6 levels) i think it sounded like he said BCNM60 Giddeus but im not sure if he meant it dropped from there or if he was going there cause he left in a hurry and sent this tell afterwards, gotta ask someone else but no-one understands me (>_<)
RE: Spartan
# Feb 28 2004 at 4:26 AM Rating: Default
yep, they are a bcnm60 giddeus drop. or you can pay 600k (ifrit) for them
Might be the most "powerful"
# Jan 28 2004 at 2:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Saw a Lvl 75/37 MNK/WAR using a pair of these... but they have high delay and no special benefits... i guess the raw damage makes up for that?
Might be the most "powerful"
# Jan 28 2004 at 2:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Saw a Lvl 75/37 MNK/WAR using a pair of these... but they have high delay and no special benefits... i guess the raw damage makes up for that?
Most Powerful?
# Jan 21 2004 at 10:38 PM Rating: Default
Is this the most powerful hand-to-hand weapon out there for now?
RE: Most Powerful?
# Mar 26 2005 at 3:02 AM Rating: Default
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Maybe for now... 58-69 or so, but Avengers would outdamage these, and Indras are pretty kickass as well.. Spharai though, +23DMG is the best weapon.
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