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I am a 63 WAR/NIN on Pandemonium and I recently decided to offhand this sword, I parsed my damage with two axes and then parsed my damage with main hand fransisca and offhand bloodsword, over a period of 10 fights each. then averaged the damage, and the bloodsword seemed to surpass the dual axes by a noticeable amount, and the +4 STR is also very attractive. This is an awesome sword, strongly recommend this for any WAR/NIN or DRK/NIN. and before anyone calls me a noob because I'm unconventional, why dont you go try it out... show me some results, then call me a noob.
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OMg ..geesus k rist another idiot that says dont speak until your 75.[DRKone] OK everyone you heard that,hes telling you not to post on this forum unless your a 75..pfft.There is so many scenarios as to why a player may not use the BEST possible option,and anyone with 4x 75 jobs and rank 10 SHOULD know this ,but obviously you do NOT.You can REALLY thank your LS for carrtying your noob ass through this game. You want one small example?Ever play with 2 melee rdm,smn 2x blm?what if there is no SC unless he uses the sword?let me guess the Magic burst from the summoner,2xblm's and the rdm isnt worth a crap right?pfft noob , experience my ass. once again thank your LS for carrying you,i pity them,your prolly one those players who parser every fight ,then go into your LS bragging about your damage.Prolly also bought gil to upgrade to the best possible option at every level.I play with players who cant barely afford a choco let alone always use the best option,so if they got a free weapon from a drop,they might very well use it,instead of listening to some gloating 75 like yourself.
did i mention anything about not posting till your 75? no. i said dont go throwing around your assumptions of what you think if drk/nin offhanding a sword when you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. numurous people have allready quoted you and basically said the same thing i did so maybe you should look at yourself and your knowledge of your own job and re-think things a little. did you even realize you are talking about drks skillchain options with a sword? why the hell would a drk mainhand a sword over scythe/greatsword/axe? if they duel weild anything it is axe/axe or axe/sword. the offhand weapon is used for its added stats and in this case for its superb damage for a sword and its lower delay then axes.
and saying i probably parse all my fights and wear the best gear optional is probably the worse come back i have ever heard lol. you said it yourself. you play with people who cant even afford a choco. and all it takes is 3minutes of farming crystals in any zone to get enough gil for a choco. so that shows alot of who you are by the people you hang out with.
DRK's do it Hard and Slow. MNK's do it with both hands. RNG's do it from across the room. THF's do it from behind. BST's do it with animals. DRG's do it just to get noticed. SAM's do it alot. NIN's do it with imaginary friends. PLD's flash you then do it. RDM's want to do it but no one lets them. WAR's do it then brag about it. BLM's do it then blame it on the tank.
IDK how many of you ppl actually know what you are talking about, drk cannot use 1 handed weps effectively, even if they do decent damage, their SCs are restricted, there are much better 2handed wep skkills to be used, and for those of you who say that this would be good for drk based on the dex and agi+ obviously arent melee or have never subbed thf, andthe fact that it would be meant for drk man thats just aninsult to all of use drks
please stop now. get drk to 75 before you speak. for one..if any drk does chooses to duel wield...they would not main hand a freaking sword, its skillchains do not matter. if a drk duel wields they main hand an axe, the sword would be in offhand..which its not a bad sword for. this is up there with company sword as the best offhand sword for drk
DRK's do it Hard and Slow. MNK's do it with both hands. RNG's do it from across the room. THF's do it from behind. BST's do it with animals. DRG's do it just to get noticed. SAM's do it alot. NIN's do it with imaginary friends. PLD's flash you then do it. RDM's want to do it but no one lets them. WAR's do it then brag about it. BLM's do it then blame it on the tank.
OMg ..geesus k rist another idiot that says dont speak until your 75.[DRKone] OK everyone you heard that,hes telling you not to post on this forum unless your a 75..pfft.There is so many scenarios as to why a player may not use the BEST possible option,and anyone with 4x 75 jobs and rank 10 SHOULD know this ,but obviously you do NOT.You can REALLY thank your LS for carrtying your noob ass through this game. You want one small example?Ever play with 2 melee rdm,smn 2x blm?what if there is no SC unless he uses the sword?let me guess the Magic burst from the summoner,2xblm's and the rdm isnt worth a crap right?pfft noob , experience my ass. once again thank your LS for carrying you,i pity them,your prolly one those players who parser every fight ,then go into your LS bragging about your damage.Prolly also bought gil to upgrade to the best possible option at every level.I play with players who cant barely afford a choco let alone always use the best option,so if they got a free weapon from a drop,they might very well use it,instead of listening to some gloating 75 like yourself.
/cheer and cooldown sometimes the student teaches the master
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Not much to say about the item, but for the record, for the first time in probably 8 years for me, I got a bloody nose while reading this page. The irony is killing me. XD
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I have this sword on my 60 war/nin and i`ve noticed the INT help w/ elemental WS such as Red Lotus Blade, and its an awsome sword to boot. BTW for some reason the hp drain goes off every time on too weak crawlers in rollanberry fields for me.
i was a lv 63war/nin i used to dual weild the gluttony sword with the blood sword.its kind of conter acted its stats in a way but for some reason it seemed to make the 2 swords hit harder and the bloodsword would steal hp more often.to top it off they look awesome together
Recently paid 7mil for this but its worth it in my oppinion. On Quetz server this weapon goes up about 1mil per sale on Auction House. The stats are very nice for my WAR, 4STR on a weapon at a lower lvl provides a great deal. The HP Drain kicks in about 1/20 hits at times, and sometimes its 1/5. HP Drain isnt consistent, but provides about 20-50HP on IT+ mobs. Very nice sword for off hand and can be used until end game depending on your choice of weapons. I will most likely use it till i get my Joyeuse.
I wield this at 69war/nin. It is a very nice sub piece.. im only missing out on 1dmg if I use this as compared to the axe that I would be using at this level. Very smart for all War/nin because the biggest modifier for Rampage is +Str. Viola, +4str. Throw this in with Enks. Bracelets >> Haubergeon >> and Amemit+1 with sushi and you suddenly find yourself at +25str. With the badass look and occasional HP drain to boot XD. Found also great for farming.
if you didn't notice, all those minus stats are to skills that don't matter to a drk. so really, its a great sword. drk's don't need vit, they shouldn't be tanking, and they don't need mnd, because there should be no way they are casting cure spells.
Good sub weapon for WAR/NIN imo. esp at lvl 55. I have one. Probably keep it till I get Ridil (as if) or Juggernaut. Haven't seen enough in action or been able to test out company sword in XP yet. Axe will always have better WSs, even for DRK/NINs, but this makes a nice sub weapon and the best sub weapon at its lvl and for many lvls for either job. At 55-60 my off hand with sword did an average of 10%(lvl55)-8%(lvl56-60 Darksteel+1) more dmg than my main axe with accuracy being unnoticeably different, so the skill lvl difference doesnt count for much. Str adds WS dmg either way, and the dex doesnt hurt because crits can be a big part of dmg to mobs that buff or are a little above usual xp range. Theres my 2 cents.
IDK how many of you ppl actually know what you are talking about, drk cannot use 1 handed weps effectively, even if they do decent damage, their SCs are restricted, there are much better 2handed wep skkills to be used, and for those of you who say that this would be good for drk based on the dex and agi+ obviously arent melee or have never subbed thf, andthe fact that it would be meant for drk man thats just aninsult to all of use drks
Not sure how many DRK/NINs you seen, but they're wicked.
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even if they do decent damage, their SCs are restricted, there are much better 2handed wep skkills to be used
How many level 3 skillchains have you been apart of? Cause i'm not sure if you noticed, but Scythe can only open/close one of them, whereas sword can open/close both, leading to a much more dynamic skillchain system, if you have the skills for it.
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DRK doesn't get swift blade, so no dark skillchains. It can only use savage blade, which is in the same position as ground strike, sharkbite and dragon kick, so it'll never be a good opener. DRK can use g.sword too, so can close both light and dark skillchains.
hmm i definatly think THF should be able to hold this sword, its stats are lovely for THF plus it has the "i look cool" pimp factor going off.... well one day maybe.
If its black magic, its INT based defense. If its white magic, its MND based defense. INT helps you resist most nukes, MND helps against the majority of enfeebles (Slow, Paralyze etc) as well as Divine Spells like Banish or Holy.
MND helps you resist enfeeblements. INT helps you resist spell damage, as well as (rumoured) certain black magic "enfeeblements" such as Bind... hence why some of the Ranger AF has +int gear on it... helps resistance to a spell a ranger does not want to get stuck with.
Everyone that I have seen use this sword is a war/nin using it as a second weapon and they are never a tank. I kinda don't understand the whole idea of a drk/nin(cauz that's just odd to me) but oh well, anyways... 2 mil on Shiva server atm, have fun and later days
Everyone that I have seen use this sword is a war/nin using it as a second weapon and they are never a tank. I kinda don't understand the whole idea of a drk/nin(cauz that's just odd to me) but oh well, anyways... 2 mil on Shiva server atm, have fun and later days
Come now people drk would so not need this at their lvl. I am a war55/nin27 skill up sword then use viking axe main hand and this in off hand for the great stats. Oh and the what about tanking thing? Well for one the war/nin isnt much of a tank at this lvl espically w/o utsusemi ni. What about the matter of the missed out acc from other viking? Who needs tha much acc even as elvaan one axe and the life belt should be plenty. Plus look at the stats this has, it has as much damage as the darksteel axe +1 that you get at lvl 56 ,and has +4 agil, +4 dex, +4 str, and the every now and then hp drain to boot! So all I have to say is some of the best 700k i ever spent.
This sword is best used if your a DRK/THF with SATA and you can start off a SATA off the tank for more hate and den switch to scythe or other gs.
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Posted:Feb 01 2005 at 4:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) SATA only works for THF main to transfer hate at any time. Subbing THF will transfer hate only during WS. I could see this as an off hand weapon, but its stats lack when compared to dual axes. Farming purposed only, if the HP fires off often enough. More of a toy than anything. But thats just my two cents. Take it as you will.
The purpose of Trick Attack is to trick the mob into thinking the person you're hiding behind is the one that hit it, thus giving hate to the person. If you have Trick Attack, it works. If you're a DRK60+/THF30+, you have Trick Attack, and SATA transfers hate just as it does for a THF main. I'm not even going to try to understand why you don't think it works with THF sub, because there is no logic to it whatsoever. Rate down p^.~q
Ok so on n on about the sword what about the NM anyone ever fought it or know about the spawn time or how bout if its overly camped.also how hard is this fight.
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Main problem is that the WAR/NIN may be tanking and if using this sword, then the VIT-8 wouldn't be too pretty. If the VIT could be made up, though, lowering the -VIT, then it would be okay but not too practical. I'd find it good for a WAR/NIN, though, if they are DD or need a quick break from tanking to recast or something, then using the sword would be nice for regaining some HP if the effect kicks in. It'd also be a nice idea of there's a SC that the pt wants to do but no one else has a sword on them so it'd be okay, still, but then, not a good idea for the WAR/NIN tanking.
Drk's would not use this sword for exp party, this is for soloing/showing off/blah. Once people get to level 66 exp parties, jobs are meant to use certain weapons in a way. Dark Knights are meant to use Scythe's and Greatswords for exp parties because they are able to use Cross Reaper and Spinning Slash, which make light/darkness skillchains. Parties probably won't invite a drk that uses a sword, due to the fact that SATA Cross Reaper/Spinning Slash does roughly 1000+ plus the light/darkness chain damage. Drk/nin is a job more for solo/HNM w/ spirits within... you'll get faster invites subbing war or thf XD
I could seriously see this being more useful for a Warrior. Why? DRK/NIN misses out on Berserk and Double Attack. Warriors have much better abilities than DRK, they could easily get away with subbing Ninja. You don't have to go /NIN to use this, but I personally feel that Rampage is much more useful in an XP party than Spirits Within. The HP drain may look nice for stacking with Soul Eater, but it doesn't drain enough. DRK/NIN is only good for soloing HNMs and doing a quick 30 seconds of hell towards the mob with Blood Weapon+Soul Eater+Ridill and Kraken Club combo.
If I ever got a kraken and ridill, I would JUST use the kraken when dealing damage to HNMs ect, I have seen DRK/NINs solo Adaman Torise with Souleater and blood weapon with a kraken. When it comes to soloing, Ridill+Kraken fits easyer. With Souleater merited, and club merited, DRKs can deal out DMG like crazy, yes giving TP to the mob, but the over all DMG weighs out the factor. I agree, WAR/NIN over DRK/NIN in most cases.
That's because the weapon is more ideal for a "DRK/NIN". A job or DD thats not gonna be tanking usually. When I say "Ideal" im not saying exclusive. Generally the pro to using DRK/NIN is it's dual weilding and awesome damage with SoulEater. The con is the major hitpoint drain, more so than DRK/WAR. Bloodsword helps to offset the hp loss.
ok, i got one of these swords, for 800k at the time, and had to try out the drk/nin combo. This is definatly a viable job combo for dmg from my experience. I am equiped with a full suit of royal knights gear and i broke down and bough a sarashi also. The advandage of this combo is that u dont draw near as much hate because your attack is more spread out. the total dmg of my two weapons combined out dmged what my scythe or great sword would have done. I was using a vikings axe in my off hand for the +10 acc bonus, and with the sarashi my delay was 25% less so that really helps out. I was hitting for the same damage as the sam's in my ptys with only one weapon, about 40-60 at lvl 55. The only down side to this combo is partys may want drks to backup voke so u may lose out on ptys that way, and souleater becomes less valuable because of the 2 weapons hitting a round. all in all its a very good combo if you use the right accesories, but people tend to frown on it because "all drk use 2 hand weapons, everyone know that." /sigh
Well I am trying out the drk/nin combo, and this is one thing i want for the combo, but since i'm 50 and still 1.5mil short, (i want 2x snipers too) its gunna take me a while.
Your right the stats are set up for a Drk/nin but like I said a war/nin DD could do the same dmg if not more then a drk/nin because of extra attack. Yes I know drks have all those attack bonuses at that lvl but usually you see a drk with a Skythe more then a sword or a great sword. Being that their relic if I remember correctly is a Skythe.
I've seen a couple wars at lvl 55 carrying this sword on my server. Usually its coupled with an Axe or another sword rarely they use two of them. Also the person is usually wearing rings and what not to negate the negative modifiers. Also some of the AF gear for a War will negate the modifiers this sword gives. I want to try out two of them just to see how it will handle.
Also for every 2 vit I believe you use 1 def so its not that much of a pain. Though I could be wrong. Been a while since I had vit rings and earrings.
Rare means you can only have one of such in your inventory. Ex is short for "Exclusive" or as the word implies, only that person may possess it. So it can't be sold or traded.
To test the Rare attribute out, try using 2 Beestingers as a Ninja. You'll see what I mean.
I'm not trying to imply this would be a viable job combo (it may be, but I'm not one to argue either way, as I don't have any experience with Ninja as a subjob), but it would appear that a DRK/NIN would be able to best take advantage of this sword.
Personally if your DD war/nin your not really tanking at that lvl because either a pal/war or a nin/war is the primary. Meaning your usually the back up. This with Duel wield would pwn all with the HP drain as a backup tank. You would save your WHM a truck load of MP.
As for this being a good sword for DRK. Who here has seen a DRK using a single-hand sword at that lvl?
its more then likely ment to be used by DRK which means that the player has chosen not to be a tank becasue of the naturaly low vit of the job but high str.
mind is healing vitality is def, meaning this would really be good for a dark knight not having the def to tank in the first place nor the healing magic
Has anyone used this sword, I want to know what the stats do to you when you fight. I mean -8vit and -8mnd doesnt that make you weak against physical attack and magic attack? Doesnt that defeat the purpose most jobs with swords are used as the tank.