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  • DEX +1
  • VIT +2
  • MND -1
  • Defense +25% (Cap is +90 Defense @ 360 base Defense)

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Sold by Merchants for about 993 gil:
Guild Level: Apprentice
Turned in for: 180 Guild Points
Max Guild Points obtained: 2800 (15.6x)

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# May 20 2006 at 2:41 PM Rating: Decent
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anyone know cap on this VS broiled crab?
i wanna know which i should use for 20 mini-avatar fight XD
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High lvl PLD friends that i have tell me to use these, now that i saw the stats i see "MND-1" and am thinking why do PLd's want this when MND affects how much HP you cure. Sure it is only 1 MND lost but at lower lvls when ppl told me to use it that 1 mnd ment alot because equipment isnt as Highly affecting as at higher lvls. (i.e. Sun Ring gives +3 Str VS. Courage Ring +2 Str) etc.
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# Dec 09 2006 at 8:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I must say: Are you new? -1MND means nothing to PLD you wont even see the change in your cures. These are good becuase they are cheap and increas DEF + Vit, use anything else at lower levels and you're throwing you gil away.
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woops didnt see the Def Base +25%
seeing that it seems worth it now >.<
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umm did u read all the stats this gives or just get to -1mnd and stop? take a look again

+1dex +2vit -1mnd +25% yes TWENTY FIVE PERCENT base defense.

vit and defense are extremely important to plds, much more so than mnd...
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This thread is now obsolete; with the CoP update, the introduction of the Tavnazian Taco has settled this. You old vets know this, but those who are new to PLD, may read this and think its still curent. Please refer to this page for Uber PLD food. Lord only knows what foods, 'Treasures' will introduce.
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# Oct 13 2005 at 6:51 AM Rating: Decent
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on Asura server

Shall Shellx2.........50000
Nebimonite............19000
Fire...................6000
Bastore Sardine........1500
Bluetail............+.11000
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......................87500


what they sell for..|..15000
....................|.x....6
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.......................90000

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bastore sardines = 1.5k per stack / 12 = 125 per synth
bluetail = 8k per stack / 12 = 667 per synth
nebimonite = 15kper stack / 12 = 1250 per synth
shall shell = 20k per stack / 12 = 1667 each x 2 = 3333 per synth
fire crystals = 4k per stack / 12 = 333 per synth
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5709 per synth

12 synths x 6 yield each = 72 mithkabobs
72 mithkabobs / 12 per stack = 6 stacks of mithkabobs
12 synths x 5709 each = 68,508g
current rate for stack of mithkabobs = ~10k
6 stacks x 10k each = 60,000

So, assuming prices are roughly similar to this, it costs about 68.5k to buy enough to make 12 synths (equals 6 stacks of kabobs), and 60k-68.5k = 8.5k loss per 12 synths. However, if mithkabobs were 11k/stack, it'd be 66k-68.5k = 2.5k loss per synth. If mithkabobs were 12k/stack, it'd be 72k/stack - 68.5k = 3.5k profit. This of course doesn't include HQ's, and it's really dependent upon the prices of materials on your server at any given time, but if you just plug in your #'s above, shouldn't be too hard to figure out =p. (I italicized anything that you'd need to change.)




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An NPC merchant in Kazham's Bed & Breakfast (Nuh Celodehki) sells these. They go for around 1k each (I got mine for 1036 gil with level 7 fame).

On Diabolos server, they go for 16k a stack in Jeuno. So, if you have some spare time, you can save yourself 4k by making a small trip to the island.
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Cool, good for penny pinchers like me.

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as a good taru cook on garuda, these are the prices as follow from the windy ah... (pretty cheap)

Stacks

Fire CrystaL-4.5K
Bastore Sardine-1.3k
Bluetail-5k
Nebimonite-9.5k
2x Shall Shell-26k

Total Costs= 46.3k

And after the nerf, the above will make 6 stacks...
Sell these at jeuno for 10k and thus get 60k(when all sell)

The profit is 60k-46.3k= 13.7k profit, not that bad...considering the really BIG nerf(heck we got some profit)
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ok... ive read this all and this is all bull$h1t!

... everyone is ******* about nothing, only crabs vs. mithkabob... or other random stuff... y doesnt nebody talk about what this does and how much to synth it?
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um.. maybe because all that information is listed at the top of this page beside the item?
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This item gives 180 GP out of 2800.
For those who don't want to do the maths that means u need 16 of them to cap the day's GP limit. That's 3 normal synths and u have 2 over.
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Just got asked this for cooking guild points (guess it's one of the changes in the February patch..)

Limit was 2800, and each kabob is worth 180 points. You need 16 of them to max guild points.
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well in nerfing this.. they nerfed the crabs
crabs too are only vit+2 so now there is no question fish are better..
the real food is black curry.. VIT+5
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Why does SE find it appropriate to change what needs not changed? I see no problem with the getting x12 per synth, and now, being a pld myself, it will cost me more to make x6 than what it use to cost to BUY x12. I feel really bad for those who make mithkabobs for themselves, Cocatrice meat is over 25k on Asura for a stack right now, that was the price before the update... can't wait to see what it will be at.

What does this mean?

More gil sellers camping Cockatrice for the meat, normal players trying to collect ingredients not being able to because of the number of people camping cockatrice meat.

What does this mean for Fish Mithkabobs, however?

Well, with the new fishing code, good luck fishing up a stack's worth of shall shells without getting booted, or having to change areas.(that's if you're collecting your own supplies, much like myself)

From a cook, who cooks mostly for himself, collects his own ingredients, SE has really hurt the player who cooks these for personal use.

Yes there always is boiled crab, but this item is Fish Mithkabob, let's stick to that discussion.

All I say, again, why change something that had no problem to begin with?
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/cheer to SE for nefing this. It had gotten to the point that game ****'s would yell at people who weren't using the "proper" foodin party's. The only food that used to sell at all was meat and fish kabobs, mushrooms, and pies. this has opened up profits on a lot of other foods, forced us to explore different types of food, and made it acceptable to use alternate foods. I think this was one of the smartest things SE did. I haven't bought fishkabobs since.

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im play devils advocite on this. Its called economy, and each server varies. I hate when people ***** about prices, yes i dont like them either but its how it works and as far as gil farmers go, when they removed the 800, prices WENT UP, thats correct why? because demand is the same and rising and supply is now lower. so please dont ***** about gil farmers affecting the exconomy, you can ***** anout monster PK-ing or the annonace of the /tell or /em if you got the mob they were camping but as far as econimoy went they maximized supply because they camped stuff 24/7
silver and zink ore skyrocked as well
it all comes down to inflation, allt he money you get from npcs for quest or rank missions, NEVER LEAVES circulation, yeah you pay 112 gil to put something on auction but thats not enought to counter the influx, and when they implimented the % tax on AH people ******** i have to pay 40k to put up a 1/5 mil item boo hoo.
its the only way they can even begin to remove some of the money. btw prices will only go up ^^, so its better to invest than save gil, buy up some morion talums or emp pins and wait until you need something else then sell them.
not to sound like an ***-hole but please read up on inflation or economics before you reply ^^
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How about the the 1,000,000 gil you have to pay get a timeless hourglass to go into dynamis, or the 1000+ choco prices.
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I agree with you 100%. I wish SE would read this, there was no need to change meat or fish kabobs. Also, if they are so against gil sellers, why give them an opportunity to shine? Doesn't make any sense
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# Nov 02 2004 at 9:53 AM Rating: Decent
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This is all in my opinion but not what to use as a PLD but what to Synth if you are a PLD with a level 62 cooking skill. Since the chances of getting HQ synth on Boiled Crab are much higher (half the time for me) because the Boiled Crabs lv cap is 27 I would go with the Boiled Crab, but if you are buying Def Food from AH then I would buy Fish Mithkabob because they cost less.

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# Oct 31 2004 at 3:40 AM Rating: Good
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If my calculations are correct, unless I get HQ synths on fishkabobs, the items always seem to cost more to buy then the end product is worth. I guess the money is in the HQs =(
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# Oct 19 2004 at 8:05 AM Rating: Decent
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One of the biggest myths out there and the basic argument for Steamed Crab VS. Fish Chiefkabob AND ALSO Phalanx vs. Verve/Chrysoberyl Rings for PLD is "2 VIT = 1 DEF". Although adding 2 VIT does add 1 DEF to your total defense, keep in mind you're still adding 2 VIT AND 1 DEF, not just 1 DEF.

To better understand the difference between VIT & Defense and avoid getting into the formulas for damage calculation, I'm going to explain in terms that I'm sure EVERYONE is familiar with:

Scenario A:
Party VS. Incredibly Tough
Most monsters that con only Incredibly Tough will usually not have a STR stat that overwhelms your VIT stat. There are some exceptions obviously, but for the most part it's pretty much a pure Attack vs. Defense battle. Go with the fish kabobs.

Scenario B:
Party VS. Icredibly Tough / High Def & Evasion
In these cases, often times the monsters will have a STR stat that is significantly higher than your VIT. When this happens, it doesn't matter what the difference is between attack & defense because an extra 1 VIT CAN mean a difference of 10-20 points damage taken PER HIT, so go with the Steamed Crab all the way.

If you're like me, you like to put together good, solid EXP parties that chain 5 IT++ mobs for 200+ EXP a pop. Most people that prefer fighting higher leveled IT++ mobs in better parties to gain EXP faster will swear by Steamed Crab. Most people that prefer the "safe" route by fighting VTs and ITs because they have a hard time finding good parties will swear by fish kabobs.

YOUR level means precisely diddly squat when it comes to choosing your food wisely. Choose your food based on the type of mobs you're fighting. In fact, as an Elvaan PLD, when I fight quick hitting mobs with very high DEX compared to my uber-low Paladin AGI (like a Torama in Labyrinth of Onzozo), I sacrifice a little defense AND VIT for AGI so I don't take critical hits every shot. I hope this cleared up some of the confusion.
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This is the complete opposite from what everyone else says. I would have to say if you fight regular IT's and not the IT+++ types, then go for crab as more def won't reduce dmg any longer. You may notice if you are a pld that when you basically double your def during these fights you are still taking about the same dmg. This means you need more vit for the weaker mobs to reduce the dmg you take, not def.

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for those of u who dont craft alot of items u craft there is an offchance u pull a +1 version of the item, hence ur wax sword +1 or whatever. some food has this as well, boiled crab becomes steamed crab instead and fish mithkabobs become fish chiefkabobs. when ur skill is 50+ over the cap of the item your makin u have a 50% chance to craft the +1 form, also day and moon affects chances. so someone with a 78 cookin skill will make steamed crab 50% of the time depending on the day and moon, more or less. steamed crab is the most popular food for high lvl plds, also runs consistant 17.5k a stack. fish chiefkabobs i havent really looked at so i dunno if it would be considered better than steamed crab i just know all the post 60 plds use steamed crab.
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# May 07 2004 at 6:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Fish Kabobs rock for ninja food! Aside the the bonus to vitality which is important to a solo ninja before utsusemi, the +1 to Dex made a noticable difference. I hate starting new jobs over, but now that "popeye has his spinach" by level 10 i have 21 DEX and 18 AGI and 15 VIT. Im not sure what the Def bonus is, but im tanking without utsusemi cause my defense is in the 80's much higher than the level 10s I was PT'n with.

I havent had much experience with using Fish Kabobs at higher levels on a "Melee" based character, but at lower levels it makes a huge difference.
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this food is actually cheaper when sold in AH! but those ingredients are much more expensive than making a boiled crab. how can this be ?
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# Apr 24 2004 at 4:40 PM Rating: Decent
This makes 12 at a time. Crab makes 1 at a time.
Fishkabobs win.
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I got my pali friend (lv 53) and my Japanese friend (lv 69) to try out both the crab and the fishkabob. Fishkabob reduced dmg more on both levels.
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# Mar 23 2004 at 1:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Going to get all stat-geeky here, so please bear with me.

When a monster attacks you, four checks are made.

1. ACC vs. EVA. If you get out of the way, nothing else matters.
2. DEX vs. AGI. For parrying and blocking attacks. If your AGI is greatly overmatched by the enemy's DEX, you take more crits. Ow.
3. ATK vs. DEF. This is an exponential relationship. Think of it as a curve, or a "diminishing returns" relationship. Once your DEF equals the enemy's ATK, adding more DEF won't do you much good.
4. STR vs. VIT. As stated before, this will determine how much damage you take, up to maximum. This is a linear, not an exponential, relationship. In other words, more VIT is *always* useful.

The practical upshot of all this? It's easier to "cap" your DEF the higher level you are. When this happens, Boiled/Steamed Crab is the superior choice. At lower (pre-30) levels, when your DEF isn't all *that* much higher than a well-equipped WAR, it's all about the Fish Mithkabobs.

Hope this was helpful, and many thanks to the PLD who patiently explained all this to me, complete with logs of damage taken.
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This info has gotten me confused now. according to this information, about if my def and enemy attack being equal, this is how I see it then. If I am lv 30, fighting a goblin and my def is the same as it's attack, does this mean that at lv 70, with the higher defense I will still be taking the same damage as I was at lv 30? If not then I completely misread the post. If so then it doesn't seem right.
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can you repeat explaining it again ? im a PLD and im quite confused bout how att and def and str and vit works!

is 10 DEF more important or 3 VIT ?

the difference between the DEF between fish chief and steam crab is 1 % according to this site but there is 3 VIT difference, so which do u think is more worth it ?

i know steamed crab is more expensive in AH than fish chief!

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If I understood this correctly, he's saying that at low levels your defense is low compared to mobs attack, so defense is more important. As you go up in level, your defense rating gets closer to the mob's attack rating and defense starts to make less and less of a difference (diminishing return). However, regardless of level, the effects of a Vitality boost are consistant (linear).

So at low levels, DEF is more important than VIT, at high levels the opposite is true (provided you are wearing up to date armor as any good paladin should)
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Yes, at low levels, defense is pretty much the important stat for every up and comming paladins. At the higher levels, since you're going to be facing mobs that has more ATK and STR than you, having more defense won't mean jack squat. And that is why VIT becomes an important stat. Remember, 1 hitters will kill anyone in the game, even with you having more defense, it wouldn't matter. The damage will still be the same since the mobs STR and ATK is higher than you at this point now. But having more VIT, it will lessen the damage that you will take from those 1 hitters.

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vit plays an very important role in tank's life. the more vit u have, the less likely u will get hit for max dmg by the mob. your def decide what is the max dmg the mob hit u for , and ur vit decide the actual dmg u take each hit.

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fish kabob
# Feb 25 2004 at 9:51 PM Rating: Default
Everyone i think fish kabob is the best paladin food.Becuase i have 200 def with now def ups and it gives me plus 50 def which is a huge diference and the and 2 vit is 1 def and +1 health regen. So the boiled crab isnt better you want as highest percent up as you can to give you more def.
#dgreebon, Posted: Feb 17 2004 at 10:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You can tell which are better simply by looking at the skill required to make them. Steamed crab is the best (82 skill), Fish Mithkabobs (49 skill), and Boiled crab (21 skill). However the better question is which is a better value, cost gets higher as you go up the ladder, and duration does make a difference. Steamed crab costs more but lasts twice as long, may well be worth the money if you can find someone high enough in skill to make it.
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Too bad you're wrong. Steam crab is just a HQ version of boiled crab, and can be made MUCH lower than 82. I was making them at 30, and regularly by 50.
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Not sure where the 82 cooking skill came from -Steamed Crab is the +1 HQ synth of Boiled Crab. I've made several. You can tell by the white background is a HQ synth.
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