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Finally got this...
# Jul 25 2008 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm now 1/33 on this after 2 weeks of doing nothing but... It's probably worth noting that I killed the NM rather slowly most of the time.
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0/8 now...
# Sep 02 2007 at 7:58 PM Rating: Decent
86 posts
0/8 now. Haven't been actively camping the thing, I'm sure I'd go crazy if I did.
# Aug 14 2007 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
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0/2 on him after tonight. Gonna keep on truckin', at least til my NIN gets beyond the point of me wanting this. It's 56 now.

Really, the NM itself is no problem - I've been duoing it with a 75BLM friend, with myself as 70DRG/WHM. It's getting the new pop item that's annoying.

Hope it's not like my Leaping Lizzy pattern...0/26, with at least TH every time. My husband ended up claiming her and getting me the boots while I was at work a while back...and he is now 1/1 because of it.

Good luck to anyone who attempts this...I hope your luck is better than mine. Because it can't be much worse. :P
# Jun 20 2007 at 7:41 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm now 0/24 on this NM... I've been fighting him on and off for 8+ months now, and this is COMPLETELY insane. There is no excuse for the randomness of drops of SO many "EX" items. I"m also 1/29 on LL for bounding boots, with TH2 on every kill! (50thf) However, I'm 1/2 on Empress hairpin, which makes no sense whatsoever. I'm also 1/18 on Moldavite earring... Once again, ridiculously random drops. They need to make SOME kind of consistency here - dont they realize how ABSURDLY ANNOYING and frustrating it is to work your @$$ off and go 0/30 on an nm, and then a friend goes 1/1 on it and had to do no work whatsoever to get the nm? I HATE this game for this reason! My second biggest pet peeve is probably how all lottery/timer pop NM's are ALWAYS claimed by the person with the fastest connection, which COMPLETELY ruins nm hunting for those of us who have less than stellar connections. They have fixed this a little with a FEW force pop nm's... which leads us back to the wonderful droprate of some of these :) Such as this NM...
COR rolls?
# Feb 26 2007 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
309 posts
I know melody earrings and orphic egg activate when you have bard songs on, and were later updated so that COR rolls work too. Does the same idea apply to this?
COR rolls?
# Feb 26 2007 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
309 posts
double post'd =/

Edited, Feb 27th 2007 3:07pm by Venlo
Isnt that hard
# Jan 03 2007 at 8:52 AM Rating: Decent
2 posts
Ok, so i dont know what ya'll are talking about. Myself as a 63Nin/Thf wit a 74Pld/Wardestroyed this thing. We cleared room and i popped it. I did die in the fight cuz i hit it with a Blade: Jin and got aggro when shadows were down. He was at 20% and used Throat Stab, then 2hrs to kill me. The PLD the switched from DD setup to full VIT/DEF+. He finished it in about 45secs.

Drop however, i did get lucky one. 1/1 Im just lucky like that i guess, cuz my NM record is...

LL 2/3 <both r/ex, one for me and one for friend>
VE 1/1
Spook 12/17
Beryl 1/1

Hoping this trend keeps up in my dyna runs with me getting high lots and god drops.
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# Dec 24 2006 at 9:29 AM Rating: Decent
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So, im in Uggalepih for over a day now to get my boyfriend the Katana. I had to go to Uggalepih around 7 times before i even got the ??? Item (Tonberry Rattle, spawns in the rooms of the first map, (when you enter Uggalepih) @ G-11, H-10, H-8 and K-5, 8 rooms total)The??? is in the paintings room, where you get to Den of Rancor. Clearing the room is always a good idea, and resetting hate. This NM is fairly easy, altho he loves to use Throat Stab sometimes, it brings you down to around 100hp if you dont have Stoneskin up, but also resets hate. I still like to go RDM/NIN for shadows. Mijin Gakure does almost no dmg, so no panic there. (because the nm normaly uses it around 10%hp).

Well... I was fighting the NM 10 times now, and got no Drop. (1x mugwort, all the time coats ; ;) and from 1,2k gil to 3k gil (i was in PT with 5 ppl who helped with Carby mitts nm and anytime else with the Char of my boyfriend). Ive spent so 20hrs in there, because the rattle spawns every 2hrs, sadly, i missed the last pop of the ??? for the rattle and its gone now ; ; *sigh* will take a few more days to get it I guess

edit: I'm up to 0/15... yay

edit#2: 1/17 on it, yay! finally, Temple of Uggalepih already was my second home by now XD

Edited, Dec 26th 2006 1:03pm by VampireFaith

Edited, Dec 27th 2006 2:31am by VampireFaith
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Got mine today ^^
# Dec 17 2006 at 8:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Went this morning to get the NM it was: my sister (75Whm), My mom (75 Bst), and me (75 RDM). He did MG and got my sister down to 35 HP but rest of us only took 200 dmg or so. We killed and i'm not 1/1 on Hototogisu. I didn't think I was going to get it because the bst camped it before and is 0/8 on it. I got lucky :]
# Dec 11 2006 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Got this hototogisu katana today 1/1 with help of ls friends. Thanks Rolanddeschain, Darthpanda, Oguras for the help

Edited, Dec 12th 2006 10:05am by Zanzoni
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# Nov 27 2006 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
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1 hour to find rattle
First solo try -75bst/whm- got drop

Im a happy 48 Nin ! 7 lvl to equip it ^@^
# Oct 30 2006 at 9:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually decided to give this thing a go after successfully getting the Offering for Carby Mitts, Prelate Key, and Den of Rancor Coffer Key and Map. Thought luck was good so sure enough got rattle and boom katana dropped. 74NIN/37WAR took me 2 tries but it was pretty easy. If this helps dropped on Windsday.
How active the Latent effect?
# Oct 17 2006 at 7:06 AM Rating: Decent
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1/1 with 75Nin/War
I have taken Mijin Gakure to 17% of life of the NM, I have killed it with much facility.
How active the Latent effect?
# Oct 10 2006 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
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ok so im a 75 thf on the shiva server i have camp this guy for the past day and half i have killed him 10x and he has not dropped the katana once everytime i have th2 and one time i have th3 does anyone know if the moon/% moon / type of moon plays any roll in the drop cause Treasure hunter does not play a roll i'll tell u that
Drop rate is rediculous
# Oct 08 2006 at 1:56 AM Rating: Decent
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This guy is frusterating and almost not worth the effort. To date, I'm 0/20 on him. I fight him every waking moment I have, camping the Rattle spawn every two hours I can.

I'm beginning to think it'll never drop. I wish they wouldn't nerf the drop rates. I really don't understand why SE has to be so stingy with Rare/Ex items. Its not like you can sell them and you still have to work to get them.

Here's to hoping that each "next time" that rolls around I'll see "You find a Hotogisu on the Meryl-footed Molberry."
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# Jul 19 2006 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Well.. I went into the temple to day to kill the Hocho NM with some friends and got the Rattle and said what the heck. We go to kill it and it drops the Hototogisu and the Dried Mugwart so I'm 1/1 w/o any TH in the party (MNK75/WAR37 NIN75/WAR37 WHM75/BLM37)
# Jul 12 2006 at 6:01 AM Rating: Decent
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When I got to level 50 with my ninja I thought it would be good to get the gear required 50-60, it makes the leveling much simpler. I saw this katana on cannotlinkto and decided to try to get it. I ended up reading about it here and started to loose confident in getting it, especially when I read the "I'm 0/44 on this" post ;_: I thought to myself it will just be another frustating drop to get like the Vilma's Ring (wich I havn't got yet, but I helped my friend getting it "¤#¤%"¤%"#).

Well yesterday I started to get all NIN AF pieces. I needed 4 coffer keys for that (bohyada tree, sea serpent grotto, ifrit's cauldron and kuftal tunnel). I thought to myself; 'Ok, I guess this whole day is booked hunting keys and coffers'. But guess what.. I killed totally 12 mobs for the four keys. So I thought, heck, I'll get the Hototogisu today too.

I went to the temple as RDM75/NIN37 and brought two friends (WHM75/BLM37 and THF70/NIN35). I found the ??? for the rattle and we headed to the "paintbrush room" got tp and popped the NM thinking 'atleast it's fun to kill NM's', not hoping too much on the katana.

We killed him and I got the drop, simple as that :) My THF friend who's a taru got killed by Mijin Gakure.. but hey.. he's a taru ;)

So that makes me 1/1 on it.

GL on drop.

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# Jul 03 2006 at 9:13 AM Rating: Decent
90 posts
Just thought I would post here to say im 0/44 so far on this...

Hototogisu: O
# May 12 2006 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent
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I was determined to get this and camped it every day after coming home from work. I can attest to the rest of the claims here, that he is indeed stingy. My record is 1/9 and I used the posts here as a guide. Indeed, the Rattle "???" is a 2 hour pop and the NM "???" is 15 minutes. As a matter of record. I did infact get the katana during his Mijin Gakure. I went solo as 75RDM/37BLM and decided @ around 15% health I'd chainspell and Thunder III what was left of his life bar. Well he still managed to get MG off, however, funny thing was he died as he was on the floor(before he gets back up) lol. Dropped the katana /joy

Edited, Fri May 12 09:06:46 2006
# May 04 2006 at 9:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I got it today 1/3 solo as 75THF.

Laten effect works only when you have BRD's song on you (any song).

GL on drop guys.

Edited, Thu May 4 09:58:47 2006
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I hate this guy...
# Apr 05 2006 at 7:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm 0/7 on this *******... He makes me ****.
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# Feb 08 2006 at 6:33 AM Rating: Decent
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So I've been farming in the Temple for a about 3 days camping Sozu Sarberry for Hocho, 0/13 on that >.>

I run around getting pop items cuz i'm bored and i get the rattle, i look it up, its for a nin wpn. I have 67 nin now and figured, why not, we were on our way to den of rancor through the paintbrush room and cleared the room, i popped, we easily killed and behold.... 1/1.

Then again i'm 75THF with a thf knife that i was 1/22 on. So this may help u guys.

Havent had a chance at using it yet, just got it yesterday and i'm still lfp x.x but just to bump the info up...

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# Feb 08 2006 at 1:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Got it first kill. Killed as BST75/WHM37 with the help of my lady on her BLM75/RDM37. Just a note: it will get back up after Mijin Gakure and keep attacking you. We found it hilarious.
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# Jan 31 2006 at 3:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, on January 29th and 30th, 2006 I did this 3 times as a NIN 50/WHM (hey, it works for soloing).

I would Tonko and run around to the doors, cancel invisible, hide behind the doors, tab around inside the room, and re-Tonko when there wasn't a ???.

So, did this cat-n-mouse dance every couple of hours or so, and did manage to find the ??? 3 times.

Temple of Ugly Lantern Midgits is a good place for high 70's to solo for farming and some exp, so there were always plenty of people who wanted to help out with a spawned NM fight (i.e. Fun fight, without waiting).

First time, level 75 ninja, the Tonberry Mijin-Gakured, but amazingly, even my level 50 self didn't die (did about 400 damage). No drop. 0/1

Second time, level 63 thief and myself and level 55 paladin from my linkshell, and a JP 75 monk killed it so quickly that it didn't have time to Mijin Gakure. No drop. >.<

Third time, level 74 Summoner with Garuda, predator clawed a few times, and the Tonberry Mijin Gakure (with Barfira up) and did 1100 damage to me, one shotted. One last predator claw, and Tonberry bit the dust. No drop. >.<

So there has been a 2 ninja party (scratch that theory), 1 TH2 party + ninja (TH2 worthless), and Summoner BP kill (no drop either).

Any thoughts on who got kill, moon phase, day of week, party setup which resulted in a drop?

Any help appreciated.. I want this Katana.
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# Jan 03 2006 at 12:42 PM Rating: Default
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I got this on new years, call it a New years present.

I was bored and went to look for the coffer in temple for my map. When i pass by i see the ??? for the rattle is up but i couldnt take it cause its rare/ex. rattle was in storage but you cant fool SE.

I went as RDM/NIN just to work on my dagger trials and i found a THF competing for the THF knife NM with gil sellers. (The yukine gang)

He came along to help we picked up a rattle from the ??? and when clearing the room i got a Ugalephi key (I was sure the **** coffer was in the locked door)and i got it there.

We killed the mob easily i finshed him with a savage blade and no drop.

I warped back home to get my rattle and this time when he was 5% i just turned to let the thf kill it with his THF knife. He did a dancing edge with THF knife to kill him and i got my katana.

Needless to say the mob was facing me the whole fight. (Its funny seeing melee trying to get hate from a mage)

Martial anelance + Joyeuse + Haste + barfire + Enthunder + Utsusemi + Stoneskin + Phalanx +Ice spikes = {Imposible to gauge} RDM/NIN

I was full HP all the time except on Mijin Gakure which he took about 20% on my HP only.

Im not sure how good this katana is now that my NIN is 61 and i use the dmg:30 katanas. GUess ill try it out
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    # Dec 20 2005 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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    Tarutaru BLM 71 with 50% MP at start and Tarutaru NIN 72 just duod it in under 10 minutes (we were against the maint timer. XD) It didnt mijin gakure, and didnt resist any spells. I let off a couple nukes, then manafont and did stone4 then flare ftw. ^^

    Easy fight, NIN didnt lose shadows once.
    stingy NM
    # Sep 21 2005 at 1:40 AM Rating: Decent
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    This is a stingy NM. I finally gone mine. I'm 1/22 now. Actually 1/20 cause I died twice. Both deaths from links (my own fault for not clearing room). I solo'd every time as bst/whm. CC does great job. 85% of the times I killed it, it only took 1 jug pet. I had stopped leveling nin at 54 cause I was so frustrated about not getting drop. Anyways....2k til 55. Can't wait to equip it. I'll be using Sai and this katana for time being.
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    # Oct 10 2006 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
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    i feel for you man i am a 75 THF and i have killed this 10x and got nothing out of the deal i was wondering what plays a roll in the drop for this NM all 9 of 10 x i had th2 being a thf and the other time i have th3 and yet to suprise still no Katana/... i have a feel th2 doesnt play a roll in the drop perhaps moon or anything else?
    Got one today =)
    # Sep 18 2005 at 11:24 PM Rating: Good
    294 posts
    I had a bad Dynamis Sandy day.. saw 3 Koga Hakamas drop... Couldn't get a lot over 100 on any of them. ****** off, I thought I'd take my chance with a tonberry rattle I had sitting in my MH.

    75NIN/32WHM soro with some MP gear. Had 216 MP as Hume with 1 MP merit. Cleared half the room rested to full. Then I popped this guy and pulled him to a corner. I kept him debuffed at all times and Diaga'd his Utsusemi. Easy battle just like killing a normal Ninja Tonberry except with more HP and *Mijin Gakure*. I kept barfira up and at about 10% he Mijin Gakured for 119 Dmg.

    Got the drop and I'm very pleased as I just picked up an Unji. Unji+Hototogisu is pretty fast and I'd like to parse it some day againts the usual Fudo+Senji combo. It's not quite Unji+Unsho but maybe one day :p
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    # Sep 17 2005 at 1:29 AM Rating: Decent
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    Just killed this guy twice, both times dropped katana, coat, and a crystal. First time he mijined at around 1/4 hp, second time I took the last third of his life off with a slug.
    # Sep 01 2005 at 5:35 AM Rating: Good
    56 posts
    Well, as stated before,
    this indeed is a very difficult drop.
    Luck? You can have this...

    After 3 solo kills as rdm/nin and no drop,
    I read some posts here claiming that you have a much bigger chance on drop
    if you kill it so fast that the Beryl-footed Molberry doesn't get the opportunity to mijin gakure.
    I tested this on 4 other runs, in my last group we killed it in about 20 seconds
    and even when it was actually supposed to be dead, he STILL forced a mijin gakure upon us.
    We even had Thief in our party, but even then it didn't drop.

    I finally got the the drop on my 9th run
    (which was a solo-run), and this time he seemed a lot harder and faster than he usually had been.
    Like the 8 runs before he mijin gakured when he had around 15 percent health left.

    The hard part seems to get the ???,
    since lots of people down there in the temple seem to click everything in sight just for kicks
    when they're just passing through for ZM4, cleansing tonberry hate or killing wespes for the larvae.
    Because there is a 2-hour timer on the repop of the ???, it's most likely that some person clicked it,
    the stingy part is that you won't know if he clicked it 119 or 2 minutes ago.

    So my best advice to you is to camp the ??? *^_^*, start the timer when you clicked it and
    you know that from that moment on the ??? will reappear in one of the 8 rooms exaclty 2 hours later.
    Meanwhile you can go and kill the Beryl-footed Molberry,
    you will even have plenty of time to get some of your friends down there.
    Just remember that the toberry rattle is rare/ex, so each person can only wear one rattle in his inventory.

    Edited, Thu Sep 1 06:53:12 2005
    # Jul 23 2005 at 2:57 AM Rating: Decent
    1/11 lol nin is 55, took me forever to get this thing to drop, reason to lvl nin again (oh and GD SE gimped my rng)
    Woot, lucky me, 1/1, ^^
    # Jul 12 2005 at 11:09 AM Rating: Good
    909 posts
    Just got this 2-3 days ago. I love it, I can easily tell the difference in speed.

    I was out camping the ??? in the 8 rooms as usual. Then, finally I found it, I couldn't believe it. It was in one of the hidden rooms not seen on the map. I had been camping for the full two hours, so, I assume I logged on right after someone had just found it or something.

    So, I've heard about the low drop rate on this thing, and wanted to take a THF with me. None of my THF friends were online at the time, so, that sucked. I then just did some random /sea for a THF 70-75. I found a JP THF named Raidenex (74THF). I asked if he'd help, using strictly auto-translator. He was in Jeuno, and he agreed. Then, I got my usual crew from my LS Sparky (75BLM), Bubbz (60WHM), Demitel (66NIN), and myself (75RDM). I know we had way more power than needed, but, meh.

    Well, we get there, and the plan was to spawn it, then run into the hallway after opening the door with the paintbrush. That's what one of our members had said they did on the fight previously. So, I was like, okay. Well, we open the door, then I spawn it. When I run into the hallway, THE DOOR CLOSED, ><. I was the only one in the hallway. Man, I was so ******* I wanted to fight bad as ****. Then, they keep fighting, trying to open the door at the same time, by the time I got out, the NM was down to about 10% hp, >< >< ><. I was so upset. Then, the thf died and dlvled shortly afterwards, grrrrrrr ><. Demitel was the only other person with a paintbrush to get me out. So, he couldn't just stand there and tank (doing the good job he always does). I was going to play the TA partner, but, anyway, none of that happened, ><. Luckily my friend Bubbz could R2 him, and he got his lvl back. Also, because of him (I'm assuming TH2 was the factor and kicked in) the Hototogisu dropped for me (I'm 1/1 now). I thanked, bowed, saluted, kneeled, etc., to everyone, more so Raidenex for coming and helping someone he doesn't even know. Plus, I felt really bad for his death. I'm hoping to repay the favor whenever I get a chance to him. My LS peeps I help whenever I get a chance.

    Thanks again, this weapon is awesome! My nin is very happy, ^^.

    Edited, Tue Jul 12 12:33:34 2005
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    # May 31 2005 at 12:44 AM Rating: Decent
    A few days back I (62NIN) and a friend (75RDM) went to Temple of Uggalepih for some items. He wanted a Hototogisu for his 55NIN and I wanted a Hornetneedle and, if possible, a Hototogisu.

    We got a larva on the first Wespe. W00t! Went to Death From Above spawn room, killed him with ease.

    He already had a rattle, but we didn't spawn the NM.

    He told me the next day he got the Hototogisu and it was his fifth spawn of Beryl-Footed Molberry. So he was 1/5.

    Then a few days later we went to get another friend a Hornetneedle. My Rdm friend told me he had already gotten another rattle. So we went and spawned him again. Katana dropped to our surprise.

    I went there with no expectations of getting it.

    We fought it with 75 Rng, 75 Rdm, 60 Whm (also a 55 Thf and Rdm, wanted Hornetneedle), and myself. Molberry did Mijin Gakure and dropped our Whm friend like a brick, I escaped with only 96 HP. O.O;

    Oh, we got her her Hornetneedle too, and the Rng a Charging Shield (Also a 68 Drk).

    No more Rare/Ex weapons needed in the Temple of Unpronouncable. ^^
    What the name means in English
    # May 30 2005 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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    Hototogisu translates as Cuckoo, as in the bird. Since this is a song bird it makes sense that the latent effect is triggered by songs.
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    # May 18 2005 at 9:42 AM Rating: Decent
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    a year ago someone told me about this NM and i mess around in the temple a lot now that i have 75 SMN.

    so i was there today, hitting TAB compulsively as i do to find things like coffers, and i found the ???. so i got the rattle and thought it would be interesting to solo the monster. i had just soloed manipulator (for fun) so why not.

    i cleared the room (very easy for 75 SMN with good gear), popped the NM. 2 eclipse bites got him down to about 1/3, i let fenrir hit him a couple more times. then i desummoned and spawned garuda to give him a quick predator claws to kill him before he mijin gakure, because i heard that if he does MG that lowers the drop rate (i was about 0/5 from helping other people).

    anyway claws easily took off the last 1/4 HP and he dropped the katana... which i didn't even really want :( i should have done /sea NIN and invited a ninja but to be honest i didn't think it would drop. i did also get a little xp and 6k gil so it was worthwhile.
    Brd Song
    # May 08 2005 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
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    Yes any brd song on you will trigger latent.. and with low delay you should be using this for a while in your sub hand.. along with a +1 weapon in the main hand to bring your delay down... It's actually a great weapon and you'll see your dual wield after 65 will fly... add any haste gear/spell/double atk... you shouldn't stop swinging barely!!!


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    ~combined delay reduced by 20%.. Dual Wield after lv65~ job trait...

    ~slash the comments I had before about how it sucks.. that was out of anger for not being able to beat that **** NM.. anyways 1/21 now!! It's great and still useful at lv67!!

    Edited, Sun May 8 15:26:12 2005
    rattle spawn time..
    # Mar 08 2005 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
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    The Rattle only spawns every 2 hrs.. the actual NM can be popped every 15mins if you have another rattle... we've gone at various points throughout the week and grabbed extra rattles when we were bored.. that way you can wait the 15mins and pop the ??? NM and fight it a few times without waiting for the 2hr ??? spawn time for the rattle... But only ONE rattle per person...
    As for this stupid NM... he has THE WORST drop rate ever!!!!! Going on 0/20 to date on Migardsormr.. ive heard rumors that the faster you kill him or killing him before he mijin gakure's will increase the chance of him dropping the katana... so stupid considering the katana isnt all that good anyways... I'll go with Sairen katana over that for the dmg.. if i have to rely on a brd for my weapon to be useful... then no thanks!!!
    Let's negotiate!!!
    # Feb 04 2005 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
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    nice info too bad the drop rates suck

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    # Dec 27 2004 at 2:44 AM Rating: Decent
    6 posts
    There's a mistake, rather then "The actual 'Tonberry Lantern' " that should read, The actual Tonberry Rattle [Rare Ex] = ???
    Beryl-footed Mogberry
    # Dec 27 2004 at 2:41 AM Rating: Excellent
    6 posts
    Mis matched information can be very confusing. I'm a 75nin on Midgardsomr and I've took it as a challenge to camp and solo this NM. As far as information goes, this is 100% accurate. Yes, there are 8 rooms on the first map. The 6 rooms are seen on the map of the greater hallway area. Each room holds a tonberry inside and a sort of ruin within. However, there is also 2 rooms hidden off the map. When you zone into the first map, open the door to your left and follow the path off the map towards the back. The 2 rooms are previous to the zone line of where you go camp the maledictors for lanterns for zm4. The actual "Tonberry Lantern" [Rare Ex] is a 2hr pop once the ??? has been selected. It can pop in any of the 8 rooms and has "no" connection the ??? for the Offering of Uggalepih, or the ??? for the Uggalepih Whistle. So selecting the other two ??? not even on the ma won't help the spawn rate of the ??? Tonberry Rattle. That said, and rattle in hand, head over the 2nd map and to the room where you enter the Den of Rancor via paintbrush, also known as a the ZM4 entrance of the Levithan Prime entrance. Just before the room is a Doll Guard, which I soloed, even with him preformign Melt down on me for 200dmg. Once the guard is down, the door behind opens, and hang a left to the paitning room. 4 Tonberry inside, 2 ninja, 2 smns. At 75, soloing was fairly simple, but you must be quick about it. If you go with a group, you should be fine, minus the area of effect dmg of Mjijin Gakure. I went 5/1 on this NM. Do not underestimate Everyone's Grudge or Mijin Gakure. I had to pay 2500gil to reset my hate, which means I had a total of x20 Everyone's Grudeg against me, so it hurt. At 75, prior to reseting hate, the Beryl-footed Mogberry [popped NM] did Everyone's grudge, then throat stab, and then 2hred, thus killing me. Once I reseted hate, and came back restocked, I owned him. He's a lv 60 version of the Maat fight, for those of you ninja who are lv 70-75 and have completed Genki 5. I suggest using Hojo: Ni, Dokumuri: Ichi, and Jubaku: Ichi [as far as ninja tools]. For food and meds, I brought hi-potions, antidotes, and x3 persikos au leit [hp recovery drink for a good 600-700 hp. I used the persikos drink to cut my down time in half after kiling the 4 easy prey tonberry in the room. A substitute for this would be the lv 70 war shinobi gi. The Hototogisu is a nice ninja wpn despite it's lvl and dmg. It has a small delay, and the acc+3 doesn't hurt. Paired with a bard song [unsure which atm] the latent parry skill becomes active. This added parrying skill is useful against God HNM's [whom, imo, should not be fought w/o a brd in the alliance]. The NM is worth camping for, and is a nice show and tell to other lazy ninja. Hope the information can help you out.
    latent effect trigger?
    # Dec 05 2004 at 2:31 AM Rating: Decent
    20 posts
    If anyone is aware of what triggers the latent effect, would you please post?

    To date: 5 kills, 0 drop.
    RE: latent effect trigger?
    # Dec 06 2004 at 6:11 AM Rating: Decent
    125 posts
    It is triggered when having a song on you. Goes good with Melody earrings if you have a BRD.
    ??? Rattle
    # Jun 11 2004 at 6:49 AM Rating: Decent
    22 posts
    Anyone know the spawn time for the Tonberry Rattle? we got it once, and then we waited more than 1 hour after killing the NM and the ?? never spawned back.
    RE: ??? Rattle
    # Oct 17 2004 at 12:35 AM Rating: Decent
    2 posts
    My LS has camped this every friday for the last month now. It mostly took so long because no one wants to get the rattle but I finally got the drop. The respawn time is 2 hours, as in the previous post it spawns behind one of the 6 doors so tab around and you can do it while invised.
    Sever: Bismarck
    75 Nin 65 Thf 52 Smn 54 Rng 37 War
    Very easy to find ??? for the pop
    # May 30 2004 at 1:14 AM Rating: Decent
    79 posts
    The ??? is in the same room as the picture frames to get into Rancor Den. Anyone who has fought Leviathan know how to get to the monster. The information posted by the anonymous poster below is correct.

    Sadly, I couldn't get help to kill the monster and I couldn't get the katana. Sat in the room for an hour or so with Tonko, three alliances passed me by and none would spare the 2 minutes needed to take out the Tonberry, even with a commensurate reward. It's also hard to recruit help for this as nobody likes the Temple and nobody has heard of this Katana.
    got it~
    # Apr 18 2004 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
    I'm sorry I don't know the pos.. but I'll try my best. in the first map of the temple, there is 8 rooms. ??? will spawn in one of the rooms, click on it and you'll get a Tonberry Rattle (rare/ex). now find your way to a second map (which you'll first exit to yuhu. jungle but on the second floor of the temple and enter it there) in a room with a picture on the wall (you can target the picure) and trade the rattle to it. NM will pop~ and becareful... this NM use Mijin gakure! good luck.. hope this info will help a little
    RE: got it~
    # Apr 18 2004 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
    ok... got the pos~ there is actually 6 small room in the first map, and you can get the Tonberry Rattle there. then you'll need to find a large room with the picture AND ??? (I-8) of map3 trade the rattle to ??? not the picture....
    I have a lvl75 thief and a lvl75 whm with me to kill this NM, I'm a lvl52 Nin... and they tell me to stay far away... so you do the math. this is a hard tonberry....
    drop where
    # Feb 27 2004 at 11:27 PM Rating: Default
    can some one post where this drops
    #Anonymous, Posted: Feb 21 2004 at 8:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Astral Flow.... NOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo
    mmm balfee
    # Feb 21 2004 at 8:37 PM Rating: Default
    7 posts
    help us help us
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