Hototogisu  

This is a stingy NM. I finally gone mine. I'm 1/22 now. Actually 1/20 cause I died twice. Both deaths from links (my own fault for not clearing room). I solo'd every time as bst/whm. CC does great job. 85% of the times I killed it, it only took 1 jug pet. I had stopped leveling nin at 54 cause I was so frustrated about not getting drop. Anyways....2k til 55. Can't wait to equip it. I'll be using Sai and this katana for time being.

I had a bad Dynamis Sandy day.. saw 3 Koga Hakamas drop... Couldn't get a lot over 100 on any of them. Pissed off, I thought I'd take my chance with a tonberry rattle I had sitting in my MH.

75NIN/32WHM soro with some MP gear. Had 216 MP as Hume with 1 MP merit. Cleared half the room rested to full. Then I popped this guy and pulled him to a corner. I kept him debuffed at all times and Diaga'd his Utsusemi. Easy battle just like killing a normal Ninja Tonberry except with more HP and *Mijin Gakure*. I kept barfira up and at about 10% he Mijin Gakured for 119 Dmg.

Got the drop and I'm very pleased as I just picked up an Unji. Unji+Hototogisu is pretty fast and I'd like to parse it some day againts the usual Fudo+Senji combo. It's not quite Unji+Unsho but maybe one day :p

Well, as stated before,
this indeed is a very difficult drop.
Luck? You can have this...

After 3 solo kills as rdm/nin and no drop,
I read some posts here claiming that you have a much bigger chance on drop
if you kill it so fast that the Beryl-footed Molberry doesn't get the opportunity to mijin gakure.
I tested this on 4 other runs, in my last group we killed it in about 20 seconds
and even when it was actually supposed to be dead, he STILL forced a mijin gakure upon us.
We even had Thief in our party, but even then it didn't drop.

I finally got the the drop on my 9th run
(which was a solo-run), and this time he seemed a lot harder and faster than he usually had been.
Like the 8 runs before he mijin gakured when he had around 15 percent health left.

The hard part seems to get the ???,
since lots of people down there in the temple seem to click everything in sight just for kicks
when they're just passing through for ZM4, cleansing tonberry hate or killing wespes for the larvae.
Because there is a 2-hour timer on the repop of the ???, it's most likely that some person clicked it,
the stingy part is that you won't know if he clicked it 119 or 2 minutes ago.

So my best advice to you is to camp the ??? *^_^*, start the timer when you clicked it and
you know that from that moment on the ??? will reappear in one of the 8 rooms exaclty 2 hours later.
Meanwhile you can go and kill the Beryl-footed Molberry,
you will even have plenty of time to get some of your friends down there.
Just remember that the toberry rattle is rare/ex, so each person can only wear one rattle in his inventory.



Edited, Thu Sep 1 06:53:12 2005

Just got this 2-3 days ago. I love it, I can easily tell the difference in speed.

I was out camping the ??? in the 8 rooms as usual. Then, finally I found it, I couldn't believe it. It was in one of the hidden rooms not seen on the map. I had been camping for the full two hours, so, I assume I logged on right after someone had just found it or something.

So, I've heard about the low drop rate on this thing, and wanted to take a THF with me. None of my THF friends were online at the time, so, that sucked. I then just did some random /sea for a THF 70-75. I found a JP THF named Raidenex (74THF). I asked if he'd help, using strictly auto-translator. He was in Jeuno, and he agreed. Then, I got my usual crew from my LS Sparky (75BLM), Bubbz (60WHM), Demitel (66NIN), and myself (75RDM). I know we had way more power than needed, but, meh.

Well, we get there, and the plan was to spawn it, then run into the hallway after opening the door with the paintbrush. That's what one of our members had said they did on the fight previously. So, I was like, okay. Well, we open the door, then I spawn it. When I run into the hallway, THE DOOR CLOSED, ><. I was the only one in the hallway. Man, I was so pissed. I wanted to fight bad as hell. Then, they keep fighting, trying to open the door at the same time, by the time I got out, the NM was down to about 10% hp, >< >< ><. I was so upset. Then, the thf died and dlvled shortly afterwards, grrrrrrr ><. Demitel was the only other person with a paintbrush to get me out. So, he couldn't just stand there and tank (doing the good job he always does). I was going to play the TA partner, but, anyway, none of that happened, ><. Luckily my friend Bubbz could R2 him, and he got his lvl back. Also, because of him (I'm assuming TH2 was the factor and kicked in) the Hototogisu dropped for me (I'm 1/1 now). I thanked, bowed, saluted, kneeled, etc., to everyone, more so Raidenex for coming and helping someone he doesn't even know. Plus, I felt really bad for his death. I'm hoping to repay the favor whenever I get a chance to him. My LS peeps I help whenever I get a chance.

Thanks again, this weapon is awesome! My nin is very happy, ^^.

Edited, Tue Jul 12 12:33:34 2005

Hototogisu translates as Cuckoo, as in the bird. Since this is a song bird it makes sense that the latent effect is triggered by songs.

Yes any brd song on you will trigger latent.. and with low delay you should be using this for a while in your sub hand.. along with a +1 weapon in the main hand to bring your delay down... It's actually a great weapon and you'll see your dual wield after 65 will fly... add any haste gear/spell/double atk... you shouldn't stop swinging barely!!!

@67

Kororito+1 Del223
Hototogisu Del185

~combined delay reduced by 20%.. Dual Wield after lv65~ job trait...

~slash the comments I had before about how it sucks.. that was out of anger for not being able to beat that damn NM.. anyways 1/21 now!! It's great and still useful at lv67!!

Edited, Sun May 8 15:26:12 2005

nice info too bad the drop rates suck

Mis matched information can be very confusing. I'm a 75nin on Midgardsomr and I've took it as a challenge to camp and solo this NM. As far as information goes, this is 100% accurate. Yes, there are 8 rooms on the first map. The 6 rooms are seen on the map of the greater hallway area. Each room holds a tonberry inside and a sort of ruin within. However, there is also 2 rooms hidden off the map. When you zone into the first map, open the door to your left and follow the path off the map towards the back. The 2 rooms are previous to the zone line of where you go camp the maledictors for lanterns for zm4. The actual "Tonberry Lantern" [Rare Ex] is a 2hr pop once the ??? has been selected. It can pop in any of the 8 rooms and has "no" connection the ??? for the Offering of Uggalepih, or the ??? for the Uggalepih Whistle. So selecting the other two ??? not even on the ma won't help the spawn rate of the ??? Tonberry Rattle. That said, and rattle in hand, head over the 2nd map and to the room where you enter the Den of Rancor via paintbrush, also known as a the ZM4 entrance of the Levithan Prime entrance. Just before the room is a Doll Guard, which I soloed, even with him preformign Melt down on me for 200dmg. Once the guard is down, the door behind opens, and hang a left to the paitning room. 4 Tonberry inside, 2 ninja, 2 smns. At 75, soloing was fairly simple, but you must be quick about it. If you go with a group, you should be fine, minus the area of effect dmg of Mjijin Gakure. I went 5/1 on this NM. Do not underestimate Everyone's Grudge or Mijin Gakure. I had to pay 2500gil to reset my hate, which means I had a total of x20 Everyone's Grudeg against me, so it hurt. At 75, prior to reseting hate, the Beryl-footed Mogberry [popped NM] did Everyone's grudge, then throat stab, and then 2hred, thus killing me. Once I reseted hate, and came back restocked, I owned him. He's a lv 60 version of the Maat fight, for those of you ninja who are lv 70-75 and have completed Genki 5. I suggest using Hojo: Ni, Dokumuri: Ichi, and Jubaku: Ichi [as far as ninja tools]. For food and meds, I brought hi-potions, antidotes, and x3 persikos au leit [hp recovery drink for a good 600-700 hp. I used the persikos drink to cut my down time in half after kiling the 4 easy prey tonberry in the room. A substitute for this would be the lv 70 war shinobi gi. The Hototogisu is a nice ninja wpn despite it's lvl and dmg. It has a small delay, and the acc+3 doesn't hurt. Paired with a bard song [unsure which atm] the latent parry skill becomes active. This added parrying skill is useful against God HNM's [whom, imo, should not be fought w/o a brd in the alliance]. The NM is worth camping for, and is a nice show and tell to other lazy ninja. Hope the information can help you out.

I'm sorry I don't know the pos.. but I'll try my best. in the first map of the temple, there is 8 rooms. ??? will spawn in one of the rooms, click on it and you'll get a Tonberry Rattle (rare/ex). now find your way to a second map (which you'll first exit to yuhu. jungle but on the second floor of the temple and enter it there) in a room with a picture on the wall (you can target the picure) and trade the rattle to it. NM will pop~ and becareful... this NM use Mijin gakure! good luck.. hope this info will help a little

can some one post where this drops

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