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Joyeuse
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DMG:35 DLY:224
+14
Occasionally Attacks Twice
Lv.70 WAR/RDM/PLD/BRD/DRG/COR/DNC

General Information

  • Has an approximate "occasionally attacks twice" rate of 45%

  • Normal melee swings deal piercing damage instead of slashing damage typical to most swords. Weapon skills utilizing the Joyeuse will still deal slashing damage.

  • The "occasionally attacks twice" effect will not activate if the user is level synched below level 70 or in a level-capped situation where their level is below 70.

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Oneiro
# May 08 2005 at 1:28 AM Rating: Excellent
I just wanted to thank Oneiro on the Shiva server. He's a badass. He is rdm75 and nin75 and has had his joyeuse for a while. He decided that he would make Charybdis his lil b**ch and that our LS should in his words 'have the coolest sh*t'. To that end he has camped Charybdis for almost 2 straight weeks, and has helped get several members this wonderful weapon. Thank you, Oneiro - you are the bomb king.
RE: Oneiro
# May 17 2005 at 9:08 AM Rating: Excellent
Quote:
I just wanted to thank Oneiro on the Shiva server. He's a badass. He is rdm75 and nin75 and has had his joyeuse for a while. He decided that he would make Charybdis his lil b**ch and that our LS should in his words 'have the coolest sh*t'. To that end he has camped Charybdis for almost 2 straight weeks, and has helped get several members this wonderful weapon. Thank you, Oneiro - you are the bomb king.


Incard is SOOOOOO right here, thank you for helping me to Oneiro ! Charybdis is so yours !!
RE: Oneiro
# May 17 2005 at 9:08 AM Rating: Excellent
Indeed a ninja and a brd can duo perfectly.

1) Can a Ninja solo Charybdis ?

I don't think that's possible.
Even with only one RDM helping him with debuffing and curing,it'll be practically impossible.
Since the fight will take very long and debuffs start to get resisted over time.

Charybdis hits hard and he hits fast,
but isn't a very accurate creature :-)
So like everyone stated before, EVASION is mostly what you need here and even @level 75
a ninja still gets hit a lot without the mambo evasion bard songs.

2) Can a RDM/NIN solo Charybdis?

if you keep in mind that a level 75 ninja has approximately 60 more evasion skill than a level 75 RDM/NIN,
you'll probaby realize that a rdm/nin won't evade very much :-)

Edited, Tue May 17 10:25:28 2005
RE: Oneiro
# May 17 2005 at 9:08 AM Rating: Decent


Edited, Tue May 17 10:10:39 2005
Info
# May 03 2005 at 4:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Camped this for 12 hours. As soon as I arived Chary poped and was killed by a party. I waited 12 hours and then he poped again and was taken from me by another party, which I ended up helping kill anyway and leaving without the Joyeuse (Even told them how long I was there for but they couldn't care less, they just wanted me to kill it with them and then leave). Nice.

I would say pops 8-12 hours after the last time it was killed, if someone says 20+ slap them because they don't know what they are talking about.
It's HP is closely around 34,000.
The Joyeuse always drops.
Keep killing the Devil Manta in the room and the one just outside until he pops.

This has been posted a few times already but this is just to clarify that if any posts say different than this ignore it because it's wrong. ^^; GL.

Update!

Waited 11 hours after he died and up he poped again. This time me and my friends killed him and I now have the Joyeuse! /hurray

Edited, Wed May 4 10:50:07 2005
a
# Apr 21 2005 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
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excellent guide, rate up
occasionaly? HA!
# Apr 12 2005 at 10:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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SE should really change the text on this to "Occasionaly attacks once" >_>
Any chance?
# Apr 01 2005 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Could a 75 RDM / 37 NIN Solo Charybdis? Just wondering ^^;
RE: Any chance?
# Apr 17 2005 at 3:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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No...

I tried to just *claim* him and stay alive for 30 seconds (75RDM/NIN) until my party could get there. I had to claim in order to keep another group that just barged in from claiming.

I had the following things going for me:
Chainspell-Utsusemi
Chainspell-Stoneskin
Bind
Gravity

The first hit he did was a 6-hit and I died instantly, not only did I die, but I died and then he hit me 3 more times. I took like 1700 dmg in a blink of an eye.

Just...no...hehe You need evasion for this.
INFO on CAMPING
# Mar 01 2005 at 8:33 AM Rating: Excellent
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All you need to know.


How to get to spawn Location "Don't forget to bring a Gold Beastcoin (this is retradeable with the door)"

From Sea Serpent Gotto zone (from Yhutunga Jungle)w/o a Map:

1) Hug Left Wall

2) You will go down 3 big steps (not holes, just steps)

3) You will see a Large Yellow Door (this is NOT the gold coin door). Make a LEFT when you see this door and Keep hugging Left Wall.

4) You will come to an opening with many Shagins and a large pool in the middle (You will need Sneak if your level is low), head straight, barring to the Left going Under the bridge (beware of mobs above they can agro to level 75's).

5) After you pass under the Bridge, hug Left Wall and you will come to a dead end and you will be able to Tab to an unmarked spot in the wall.

6) Cast Sneak before trading Gold Coin to door (beware Water Elements, can be behind door)

7) Keep tabbing and hitting Enter several times on the door until you get the message, "...you can insert a gold beastcoin..."

8) Trade Gold Beastcoin (you will still have coin after trade) and you can reopen from inside.

9) With Sneak on Hug Left Wall. You will pass two Cliffs (you can fall off these so careful).

10) Drop down the 2nd Cliff

11) Hug Left Wall till you see another Cliff.

12) Drop Down 1st Cliff (you should see Devil Mantas now).

13) Hug Left Wall untill you come to another dead end with a unmarked door.

14) Open door by just hitting enter.

15) You will come to a circular room with treasure chests all around and a NPC shagin in the back. Now you have found NM Charybdis spawn point.

Overview:

Just the main thing is, always HUG the LEFT WALL drop on 2nd Cliff and drop again on 1st Cliff.


How to get your Joyeuse:


1) Charybdis (NM) is a 8-12 hr. lottery spawn (he is NOT a 24hr spawn as posted from below) if you know ToD then your very lucky if not then it's just a matter of time.

2) In the NM spawn room there will always be 2 place holders named "Devil Mantas" (sea monk type). Sometimes one will respawn behind the door behind the room, kill it. These do LINK.

3) Kill the 2 place holders (Devil Mantas) these will respawn every 15-16 mins so get a Stopwatch (I'm Serious). Time the pops so you know when to get ready for them.

4) Devil Mantas can be soloed by RDM's or NIN's I am unsure of subed/NIN's.

5) Water Elements can spawn behind door and agro by magic through door if too close. So becareful, they are very nasty and con Easy Prey as lvl 75.

6) Keep killing the 2 Devil Mantas until Charybdis Spawns.

7) When Charybdis has poped call your LS or friends to get down there quick. If you have your LS or friends there already, then you're a lucky guy.

8) If you see a stranger walking in and see's your NM, quicky /sea all "Name" and see if that person is in a group. If he is not in a group, he won't claim it, because this NM is NOT soloable and very hard to sleep. If he is in a party and you search how many people are in S. Serpents Grotto, and there's a lot. Pray that they are not there for Joyeuse too.

9) The usual rule with camping this NM is, if you took the time to pop it, it should be your claim. But, if you don't have enough people to gather and help you in time, then you shouldn't have been popping it. Let someone else who is capable of killing it and just get the TOD.


Fight Setup

1) NIN/WAR is highly recommended because Charybdis can hit up to 2-6 times. He has a high amount of HP so expect a long fight if done with a small group. AOE;s will wipeout shadows so get ready to Stun or Heal.

NIN combos:
NIN & rdm & brd
NIN & war & rdm
NIN & nin & rdm
NIN etc... you get the idea. A 6 PT is always better. ^^

2) WAR/NIN refer to NIN up above, same thing but might want to get another Shadow Provoker.

3) PLD/WAR I really don't reccomend a PLD tank this UNLESS, you have an alliance or a lot of healers. PLD have Earth Staff on at all times.


***My 1st killing on this NM was***
18 Alliance with PLD tank

***My 2nd killing on this NM was***
PLD - DRK - RDM(me) - RDM - WHM - BRD
I know, it looks like only one DD, but we did it, we had infinate mana to cure so it was no problem for the PLD tanking, it was just a longer fight but more exciting.


4) PLD/NIN I would only recommend this if you have a THF SATA in PT, but you would only do PLD/NIN if you have a low amount people to help. Hate will be and issue if it is a long fight.


How Charybdis Attacks

1. Hits 1-6 times
2. Water AOE (damage 400-500)
3. Oil AOE (damage 200-300) blindness
4. Tenticle Slash (damage +500)
5. HP Regen
6. Bubble Shield (I thinks it's a DEF boost or Shell)
7. AOE -str



Things to know during fight


1) Kill off Devil Mantas 1st if they pop near NM, you don't want aggro during battle. I am 90% you can carbuncle pull and NM won't Link.

2) Fight NM in the ramp area where the land touches the water.

3) Mages always have Stoneskin and BarWatera on. Becareful of the Water Element popping behind the door.

4) Always have Paralyze on NM, this will pwn his multi attacks.

5) The only negative effects Charybidis casts are, Blind and -STR and one more I forgot. Blind will last a verrrrry long time.

6) Tentical Slash is a hard hitter and AOE water spin is a hard hitter too.

7) Try NOT to get Hate MAGES!!! If Charybdis is charging at you, he will blow through your Stoneskin/Blink/Phanlanx with his 6 hits. I (elvaan) died with 3 hits and he kept hitting my body for 3 more times while I was still dead (funny lag).

8) Joyeuse is a 100% drop ^^ the sword will occasionally hit twice about 70-80%!




Goodluck to everyone I hope this helps. I have killed him 4 times so I hope this can be very informative.

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Edited, Thu Aug 11 08:11:39 2005
Solo?
# Jun 12 2005 at 1:11 AM Rating: Decent
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is it possible to solo him?
RE: INFO on CAMPING
# Apr 06 2005 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Great guide, rate up! I've been planning on doing a SSG run with my LS, Novv and Charybids, and this will help out a lot. One question though, on ur experience, what do u think bout the 1 Manta, no window open, 2 mantas window open thing? Is it true? No?

Thx
RE: INFO on CAMPING
# Mar 05 2005 at 12:09 AM Rating: Decent
Damn man, that definetly deserves a rate up. I have a question for you though. In your experience with this NM would you think a 74-75 THF would be able to tank this with a RDM and possibly a DRK? I don't know too many NINs myself, especially one who would come at the drop of a hat. Either way, thanks for the awesome info man.
RE: INFO on CAMPING
# Mar 09 2005 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
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THF/NIN can tank this.

THF/NIN + BRD + RDM
NIN/WAR + BRD + RDM

best combos to fight this imo.

any of those jobs can solo Devil Mantas.
<pos> {Can I Have it}
# Feb 15 2005 at 1:47 PM Rating: Default
Whats the exact poss for this sword ?
Mine^^
# Jan 26 2005 at 1:47 AM Rating: Decent
Got this bad boy last night. Thank you PaiMei, you guys rock^^.
bah!
# Jan 21 2005 at 11:30 PM Rating: Decent
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anyone who laughs at someone who has this sword is stupid.. cause this sword is awesome!!
Whoa!
# Jan 19 2005 at 1:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow, this thing is friggin sweet. Anyone know what it looks like in game? I'm guessing a blue tuck-type weapon?
why ?
# Jan 07 2005 at 3:38 AM Rating: Default
Why are you all dreaming with this kraken club , its a club !!!!

To look good ? Feel rich and powerful ?

If i see a melee using this in a XP party i laugh at him .
RE: why ?
# Jan 18 2005 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
I fart in your Gen'ral direction.

<laugh all you want>
RE: why ?
# Jan 18 2005 at 8:43 PM Rating: Decent
By the way....that's Monty Python. The Black Knight uses a Joyeuse, that's good enough for me.


"Tis only a flesh wound!"

Edited, Tue Jan 18 20:46:39 2005
RE: why ?
# Jan 15 2005 at 6:20 AM Rating: Decent
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sam/rng with kraken club is undefeateable!!! trust me!! spammin sidewinder every minute..theres just no stoppin
RE: why ?
# Feb 04 2005 at 1:11 PM Rating: Decent
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To bad he wont be able to hit XP mobs.
RE: why ?
# Jan 13 2005 at 12:37 AM Rating: Default
If you laugh at people using this sword, I will laugh at you too.
...
# Dec 08 2004 at 8:39 PM Rating: Default
What the min # of people you would need if you took it on at 70 with Nin tank?
RE: ...
# Jan 07 2005 at 11:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Went to SSG to find location of spawn and found Charybdis unclaim. Then a 75Ninja 70Rdm and a 75 bard came in and claimed it.
The Ninja tanked Charybdis while bard double mambo and rdm cured and haste. Took 10 minutes but they killed Charybdis with little problems. Ninja did get her HP down to half but never lost control of fight. The rdm did get sword and I got time of death.

Next day, I brought my LS and we popped Charybdis. I brought a ninja, bard, 2 rangers, 2 drk, war, rdm/blm and myself(rdm/whm). We took down Charybdis with no problems. And I have my sword >^.^<

Oh and the time of death, I have to say its a 21-24 spawn with lottery. 24 hrs before I headed out to SSG, few of my LS members saw Charybdis die. I came 24hrs later and found the 3 members take it on. Then yesterday (24 hrs later) I came with my LS and got him to pop. We're going again tonight, I'll see if this pop is normal.

edit - spelling & grammer

Edited, Fri Jan 7 11:03:23 2005
A wise, but unfair choice
# Dec 08 2004 at 9:58 AM Rating: Default
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Could you imagine a Galkan or Elvaan Thief/Ninja, decked out in HP+ gear, with this in the main and the club in the sub slot? The possibility of 2x attack + 2-8 attack + {Triple Attack}, capped off with the damage of {Spirits Within} would make a the well equipped Thief a necessary member in any HNM Linkshell.

Square knew exactly what they were doing when they chose not to allow Thieves to equip this piece of heaven with a blade.
RE: A wise, but unfair choice
# Dec 30 2004 at 11:54 PM Rating: Default
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kraken base damage to low, you'll hit 0 damage
RE: A wise, but unfair choice
# Dec 29 2004 at 2:03 AM Rating: Default
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capped off with the damage of {Spirits Within} would make a the well equipped Thief a necessary member in any HNM Linkshell.

Yea. Sure.
Giving the mobs thousands of 0-3dmg hits to let it gain TP to smack your alliance. =) Really necessary.
Well I wouldn't want a mob to spam it's WS...you know, or would YOU want a dragon to nonstop spam Fangrush(3hit multi hit WS, hits good equipped PLD for 500-1000)
RE: A wise, but unfair choice
# Dec 09 2004 at 3:54 PM Rating: Default
Uh yeah buddy, that's why THF can equip Ridill, which is an even better sword than this is.
Double Attack..
# Nov 25 2004 at 9:40 AM Rating: Default
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From what my HK friends have told me, it does stack & yes, yes it is very crazy with Kraken club and a NIN sub. (It gets to the point of insanity there) Fortunately, the guy decided to demonstrate how quickly he (WAR) could get off an Savage Blade vs. a higher lv mob.. took nearly 5 seconds for him to regain full TP to another ws.. totally insane. I want one of these and a Kraken club ; ;
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Hm...
# Nov 10 2004 at 8:34 PM Rating: Default
I've been excited for this weapon since level 62, and I'm growing ever closer to 70. Problem is, I don't know how to get people to help me get it without too much people that will want it themselves (I'm not going to get the sword if I bring 5-6 people that want it when it's a 21 hour+ relottery start...). My linkshell is not quite a HNM shell, we have a couple people at 75 and a lot of mages in the 60's, but our melee count is low (well, if I count the 3-4 67 BSTs in my ls that static together. But our ls really consists of rangers and mages), so I might have to get a bit of help...I'm a Paladin tank in addition, I can't really tank this without dying simply because this mo-fo hits too much. And if I wanted to get people to help when it's supposed to be for them, what's their reason for coming, lol? A lot of people won't help unless it benefits themself. Maybe it'll be skillup...or something...

Edited, Wed Nov 10 20:36:17 2004
Charlemagne
# Nov 09 2004 at 3:26 AM Rating: Excellent
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In the realm of reality, this was the sword of the French Emperor Charlemagne. Interestingly enough, the historical weapon was not a rapier, but a traditional cross-hilted design with a rather large pommel.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 14 2005 at 4:44 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If you write about historical facts research them better plz. Charlemagne=Karl der Grosse was the Emperor of Germany.
RE: Charlemagne
# Jan 18 2005 at 10:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_charlemagne.html
How to get to the camp??
# Oct 27 2004 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Can you guys tell me how to get there from Norg or the entrance of Sea Serpent Grotto please???
It is 100% drop rate right??? NICE >=D
i guess i will camp there for weeks til i get this sword.... please help me out!!!!!
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RE: How to get to the camp??
# Nov 10 2004 at 11:09 AM Rating: Default
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It's not 100% drop. - -;
RE: How to get to the camp??
# Dec 02 2004 at 1:20 AM Rating: Decent
Yes it IS 100% drop. Absolutely 100% drop.
sword and club
# Oct 25 2004 at 7:33 PM Rating: Decent
man this sword would own wiht krakken club
spawn time
# Oct 03 2004 at 4:27 PM Rating: Excellent
pop time is either 8-12 hr or 12hr +/- 2, it died once at almost exactly 1am and was up to be murdered again at 2pm, ^^ fight was fun, and now i have my sword.
4x hits...
# Sep 28 2004 at 9:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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wars double attack and this double attack do not stack. I saw whren say that along with a video i watched that comfirmed it. So no 4x hit, o well this sword still rocks

Is wrong because...
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I was on my way to Tu'lia and snagged this video to demonstrate the Joyeuse's double attack. I was pld/whm when I took this.

As you can see, Whren was pld/whm in the video. So 4x hits are a possibility.[Black][/Black]
RE: 4x hits...
# Oct 25 2004 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
Unfortunately, the occasionaly double attack of the sword and the double attack from the war sub job don't stack.

I got this sword a couple of weeks ago and I'm using it for XP party right now. What you will notice is an 70%-80% of the time double hit.

But no quad hit.
stacking
# Sep 14 2004 at 1:09 AM Rating: Default
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wars double attack and this double attack do not stack. I saw whren say that along with a video i watched that comfirmed it. So no 4x hit, o well this sword still rocks
RE: stacking
# Sep 29 2004 at 2:37 AM Rating: Decent
It stacks just fine.
RE: stacking
# Oct 19 2004 at 10:49 AM Rating: Good
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It stacks as in you can either have the Joyeuse attack twice or Double Attack attack twice, but it does NOT stack in the sense that you can attack up to 4 times per round.
where? <pos>
# Sep 12 2004 at 4:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Im interested in giving this sword a try as opposed to my espandon +1, see which I like better. Can someone give me some directions on where to find him?
=0
# Aug 26 2004 at 10:51 AM Rating: Decent
Can you imagine a war/nin with this with a krakken club as a sub weapon. drool.
RE: =0
# Oct 14 2004 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
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a WAR/NIN would be better off with Ridill.
war
# Aug 14 2004 at 12:43 AM Rating: Decent
if a warrior was to ever use this would double attack make you hit 4 times (less often than 2 because youd need double attack and hit two times)
occasionally? i suppose the timing would have to be good..so double attack would be now be about a 90% chance and quad would be whatever chance you have of doing double attack (the ability)


o.O confusing but once you understand please reply what you think

if you could do quad that would be cool
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 28 2004 at 5:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) with war subed u will attack pretty fast
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