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Noble's Bed
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Guild Level: Artisan
Made from Recipes
- Woodworking (78)
Clothcraft (56)
Goldsmithing (50)
Crystal: Earth
Yield: 1- Silk Cloth x 1
- Velvet Cloth x 1
- Gold Thread x 1
- Gold Ingot x 1
- Rosewood Lumber x 3
- Mahogany Lumber x 1
Used in Recipes:
- Blue Noble's Bed - Clothcraft (--), Alchemy (--)
- Green Noble's Bed - Clothcraft (--), Alchemy (--)
- White Noble's Bed - Clothcraft (81), Alchemy (--)
- Yellow Noble's Bed - Clothcraft (--), Alchemy (--)
Does the element of the bed ("experience", as it might be the case) have to prevail to get the exp loss reduction? As in, I have a lot of Moghancement: Fishing in my room, does that mean that upon dying my bed wont take effect since it's not the prevailing Moghancement? :S
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did someone try to increase there Lightning energy in their mog house to try if a "Strong" or "overwhelming" energy increase the exp saved when you die. -
I am having a tough time with the final mog house upgrade quest with the nobles bed. I ran into a problem where I was able to start the quest, got the cutscene, and got it in my quest log, but at the time there were no raptor mantles or wool hats in any auction houses, so I logged off in Jeuno.
I forgot about it later that week, and switched my mog house to Jeuno, when I was doing other things. Now the quest is stuck in my log, and I can't trade anything to the mog and it doesn't even acknowledge the quest.
I've tried placing the mog house again, removing it from the house and replacing it, then waiting for the next conquest update and doing it again. Still no cutscene. I've had no luck with this through a few updates. I have my mog in my hometown when I tried this too.
My fame in bastok goes like this:
" Oh, it's you, <Icefloe>
I've known you since you started off here in Bastok, but I never thought you'd come this far.
You've become a household name in these parts. You're even considered a hero by some... like me!
I pray that the Goddess Altana looks down upon you favorably in your journeys. "
Am I screwed out of the extra mog house spots now and will I never be able to complete the quest, or do you guys know of something I can do or something I'm not doing right. Thanks
I forgot about it later that week, and switched my mog house to Jeuno, when I was doing other things. Now the quest is stuck in my log, and I can't trade anything to the mog and it doesn't even acknowledge the quest.
I've tried placing the mog house again, removing it from the house and replacing it, then waiting for the next conquest update and doing it again. Still no cutscene. I've had no luck with this through a few updates. I have my mog in my hometown when I tried this too.
My fame in bastok goes like this:
" Oh, it's you, <Icefloe>
I've known you since you started off here in Bastok, but I never thought you'd come this far.
You've become a household name in these parts. You're even considered a hero by some... like me!
I pray that the Goddess Altana looks down upon you favorably in your journeys. "
Am I screwed out of the extra mog house spots now and will I never be able to complete the quest, or do you guys know of something I can do or something I'm not doing right. Thanks
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You need to be top fame. They should say you're a hero. The best way to get fame in bastok is the Boyoda* moss quest in Selbina.
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Hmmm I dont think it is the right recipe lev lol !
Thats what i should right the first time cause my last message was a bit stupid like i said in my reply of this recipies.
Edited, Mon Jan 23 04:01:44 2006
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{Unicorn sever}
(alchemy 58)
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(smithing 56)
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(cooking 9)
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{Unicorn sever}
WW - 78
GS - 50
CC - 59
according to ffxi.cannotlinkto.
Please don't scream at me if that one is wrong too.
Edited, Fri Jan 20 00:41:57 2006
GS - 50
CC - 59
according to ffxi.cannotlinkto.
Please don't scream at me if that one is wrong too.
Edited, Fri Jan 20 00:41:57 2006
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lol hmm im sorry for screaming like an idiot.....
I was piss off but now im cool.
I would like to apologies to anyone who read this stupid message of mine.
It wont happen again ^^ i love u all
all player of FFXI are my friend exept of
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Have fun everybody and take care ^^
I was piss off but now im cool.
I would like to apologies to anyone who read this stupid message of mine.
It wont happen again ^^ i love u all
all player of FFXI are my friend exept of
gilseller ofcorse lol
Have fun everybody and take care ^^
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You save 15% of your XP lost from a nobles bed.
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Can we sell our Bronze and Mahogany bed after having completed the previous mog house quests? Will we loose any moghancement experience advantage if we sell them? Thanks
Wontons, BLM 75, Ifrit Server
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Yes, you can sell a bed as soon as you're done with the quest (i.e. when your moogle returns and gives you the increased mog safe size). You will no longer receive moghancement: experience if you no longer have any beds around.
Question: Does your nation need to be in first for the quest to work? Or does your mog need to be back in your starting city the night of the tally? Anyone know? I have had a noble's bed in my MH for I think a month, and sandy has neither been in first nor have I had my mog in sandy before the tally (just found this idea out from a LS member this week).
Also, anyone know what a Noble bed is going for on Asura?
Also, anyone know what a Noble bed is going for on Asura?
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U only need more fame from ur nation thats it ^^
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not just to OP, but to anyone
no, trust me, i'm from bastok
tally is done on sunday morning (well, its japan monday 00:00)
and no, it doesnt.
go raise your fame. from testing i've done on my mule, or need L3/5/7 for the 3 bed/safe expansions.
you will only trigger the first cutscene when at home, (the moogle need to 'sit' on the bed)
but after that, you can turn in the requested items when/where ever you want (well no nomad moogles)
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Does your nation need to be in first for the quest to work?
no, trust me, i'm from bastok
Quote:
Or does your mog need to be back in your starting city the night of the tally?
tally is done on sunday morning (well, its japan monday 00:00)
and no, it doesnt.
go raise your fame. from testing i've done on my mule, or need L3/5/7 for the 3 bed/safe expansions.
you will only trigger the first cutscene when at home, (the moogle need to 'sit' on the bed)
but after that, you can turn in the requested items when/where ever you want (well no nomad moogles)
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Last I knew about 200k on Asura.
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200k!?!? Man you guys are lucky. Over here on Garuda they go for up to 2mil >_<
do you mean the royal bed cause this is the nobles bed
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If you have done the two previous mog house quests, then you must home point in your home nation on friday. Do not change your home point until you get the cutscene, which should be sometime on sunday. Good luck with that. ^^
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well i just finish this quest
AFter you put your bed in your MG, you need to wait to the following Sunday.
After that you can go to your OWN nation MG then you will have the cutscene
After the cutscene you can trade the items to your moogle in ANY MG(you can do it in jeuno)
And after few days you can get your safe to 80 from your moogle in ANY MG(you can also do it in jeuno).
Hope this helps
AFter you put your bed in your MG, you need to wait to the following Sunday.
After that you can go to your OWN nation MG then you will have the cutscene
After the cutscene you can trade the items to your moogle in ANY MG(you can do it in jeuno)
And after few days you can get your safe to 80 from your moogle in ANY MG(you can also do it in jeuno).
Hope this helps
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First, I assume that you have done the previous two mog house quests.
Second, in order to activate the quest from your moogle you have to be in your home city mog house. You can get the quest from him as soon as the conquest Tally is done on Sunday morning. So just go to your mog in your home city and when you click on moogle he will automatically launch in to the cutscene for the quest.
I hope this helps.
Second, in order to activate the quest from your moogle you have to be in your home city mog house. You can get the quest from him as soon as the conquest Tally is done on Sunday morning. So just go to your mog in your home city and when you click on moogle he will automatically launch in to the cutscene for the quest.
I hope this helps.
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Forgive me if this was mentioned before, but if I have 2 different beds (i.e. Noble's and Mahogany) in my Mog House at the same time, do the effects stack, or does just the better bed count?
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If you have an oak bed and a mahogany bed with a faint wind aura in your moghouse, then only the oak bed (=wind) will work.
The power of moghancements is dictated by the power of the aura. More beds will increase the aura, but you can still only have 1 moghancement active at a time.
Faint < powerfull < overwhelming
The power of moghancements is dictated by the power of the aura. More beds will increase the aura, but you can still only have 1 moghancement active at a time.
Faint < powerfull < overwhelming
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Posted: Dec 09 2004 at 2:15 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If anybody was having trouble with their bed, you have to do the quest with your moogle:
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After seeing so much conjecture about the xp saved by beds, and various Raise spells at various levels, I decided to do a little testing myself this weekend.
I have always accepted the belief that Raise II only benefits someone if they are level 50 or above; but people argue about it and I wanted to make sure.
So I took a level 30 job with a 3542 xp buffer and died several times.
At level 30, your TNL is 5800 -- therefore the loss of xp with death should be 580.
My first trial: Dying and going back to my Homepoint. In my Mog House was a Noble's Bed, a Mahogany Bed, a Bronze Bed, and a Simple Bed my total xp loss was 440 (approx. 75% of 580) - The beds saved me 25%.
My second trial: Dying and going back to my Homepoint. In my Mog House was just a Noble's Bed and my total xp loss was 440 (approx. 75% of 580) - The Noble's Bed alone saved me 25%. I do not, therefore, believe the beds stack.
My third trial: Dying and getting a Raise I, while I had a Noble's Bed in my Mog House. My total xp loss was 330 (75% of 440, which is 75% of the 10% 580 I should have lost). Even not going to the Homepoint, the bed saved me an initial 25% with my death, then I received an additional 25% of the modified death penalty when I got raised. You do not need to return to Homepoint for the beds to take effect.
My fourth and final trial: Dying and getting a Raise II, while I had a Noble's Bed in my Mog House. My total xp loss was 330 (75%of 440, which is 75% of the 10% 580 I should have lost). Once again the bed saved me 25% right off the top, and Raise II added no benefit because I was under level 50, as expected.
I would like to try once more, and receive a Raise III, but I couldn't find a WHM70+ willing to help at the time. I believe Raise III give the benefit regardless of level, as I received a Raise II when I was around level 40 and got back nearly all my xp. But I would like to test it to be sure, when I have the exact xp amount written down before and after my death.
Incidentally, twice while I died I had my status window open and saw the xp drop -- with the bed(s) in place, each time it was a loss of 440. This was before I returned to Homepoint or was Raised.
I have always accepted the belief that Raise II only benefits someone if they are level 50 or above; but people argue about it and I wanted to make sure.
So I took a level 30 job with a 3542 xp buffer and died several times.
At level 30, your TNL is 5800 -- therefore the loss of xp with death should be 580.
My first trial: Dying and going back to my Homepoint. In my Mog House was a Noble's Bed, a Mahogany Bed, a Bronze Bed, and a Simple Bed my total xp loss was 440 (approx. 75% of 580) - The beds saved me 25%.
My second trial: Dying and going back to my Homepoint. In my Mog House was just a Noble's Bed and my total xp loss was 440 (approx. 75% of 580) - The Noble's Bed alone saved me 25%. I do not, therefore, believe the beds stack.
My third trial: Dying and getting a Raise I, while I had a Noble's Bed in my Mog House. My total xp loss was 330 (75% of 440, which is 75% of the 10% 580 I should have lost). Even not going to the Homepoint, the bed saved me an initial 25% with my death, then I received an additional 25% of the modified death penalty when I got raised. You do not need to return to Homepoint for the beds to take effect.
My fourth and final trial: Dying and getting a Raise II, while I had a Noble's Bed in my Mog House. My total xp loss was 330 (75%of 440, which is 75% of the 10% 580 I should have lost). Once again the bed saved me 25% right off the top, and Raise II added no benefit because I was under level 50, as expected.
I would like to try once more, and receive a Raise III, but I couldn't find a WHM70+ willing to help at the time. I believe Raise III give the benefit regardless of level, as I received a Raise II when I was around level 40 and got back nearly all my xp. But I would like to test it to be sure, when I have the exact xp amount written down before and after my death.
Incidentally, twice while I died I had my status window open and saw the xp drop -- with the bed(s) in place, each time it was a loss of 440. This was before I returned to Homepoint or was Raised.
Scholar
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Any chance you could do experiments with each bed to judge the loss?
I'd just like some kind of proof (in the form of testing is fine) that one bed saves you more exp than another.
I'd just like some kind of proof (in the form of testing is fine) that one bed saves you more exp than another.
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I have done a little, a friend offered to die a few times for me and she found she still saved the 25% even with a Mahogany Bed. We haven't tried any of the other beds.
This was in the course of testing the Experience saved with a Raise III at various levels. I still need to work on those tests more, because I haven't figured out Raise III yet. On a level 15 character, it did give back more than Raise I, but it was a minimal gain... so perhaps Raise III works on levels below 50 - but the benefit is based on a curve?
I have all the bed lower than Noble's still, so I will try to do some testing soon and update this.
This was in the course of testing the Experience saved with a Raise III at various levels. I still need to work on those tests more, because I haven't figured out Raise III yet. On a level 15 character, it did give back more than Raise I, but it was a minimal gain... so perhaps Raise III works on levels below 50 - but the benefit is based on a curve?
I have all the bed lower than Noble's still, so I will try to do some testing soon and update this.
Thank you very much for this work. I would love to know about Mahogany bed myself.
Edited, Mon Mar 28 11:12:59 2005
Edited, Mon Mar 28 11:12:59 2005
Raise III doesn't work below level 50... I was actually doing G1 quest at level 50 and died in beaucedin glacier... got a R3 from a nice whm... still lost a crapload of xp.
thats because the loss of exp is not based solely off of the beds. Stacking your mog house with items with holy attributes will lessen your exp loss regardless of whether they are beds or not
this is funny reading, cause every single one of u say opposite things, LOL. I find thats the problem with forums, who really knows who knows the truth ><
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Regarding the issue of moghancement experience:
After checking out Popsi's moghancement guide, of the three main beds(Bronze, Mahogany, and Noble,) bronze has the least "aura". However, the difference is so slight that two bronze beds equal one noble bed and more than one mahogany bed. And it is a lot cheaper too.
That is my belief on why people notice a difference on experience between the beds. It is not the bed but the aura it admits that affects it.
So if you placed 17 bronze beds you would have overwhelming mog experience compared to 9 noble beds or 10 mahogany beds. However the price of 17 bronze beds equals maybe one and half noble beds, if that. I believe that bronze bed is your most affective per your dollar.
Hope this helps some.
After checking out Popsi's moghancement guide, of the three main beds(Bronze, Mahogany, and Noble,) bronze has the least "aura". However, the difference is so slight that two bronze beds equal one noble bed and more than one mahogany bed. And it is a lot cheaper too.
That is my belief on why people notice a difference on experience between the beds. It is not the bed but the aura it admits that affects it.
So if you placed 17 bronze beds you would have overwhelming mog experience compared to 9 noble beds or 10 mahogany beds. However the price of 17 bronze beds equals maybe one and half noble beds, if that. I believe that bronze bed is your most affective per your dollar.
Hope this helps some.
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althought a good theory, it really needs solid numbers to prove wether it's right or wrong.
i just bought a noble bed and came into this section to see if having more then one bed would makd the exp gained back percentage higher.
it would be nice to spend less money on putting in 10 bronze beds instead of one 100k noble bed, but the theory's need to be squashed by some solid numbers.
:)
cheers!
-Jeff
i just bought a noble bed and came into this section to see if having more then one bed would makd the exp gained back percentage higher.
it would be nice to spend less money on putting in 10 bronze beds instead of one 100k noble bed, but the theory's need to be squashed by some solid numbers.
:)
cheers!
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I have a nobles bed placed in my mog house and have moghancement experience. I noticed something disturbing, I wasn't paying exact attention to my exp loss but it didn't seem I was saving anything. Well tonight I checked it accuratly for once and here it is:
My over all exp to level 13 was 3000 exp. When I died
I lost 285 exp, the bed saved me 15 exp. 15/300 <300 is the 10% I should have lost with no bed> Its .05 or as we all know from school 5% of the exp loss saved. Needless to say I was bummed out when I saw, so maybe ya'll can explain why I got so little back.
My over all exp to level 13 was 3000 exp. When I died
I lost 285 exp, the bed saved me 15 exp. 15/300 <300 is the 10% I should have lost with no bed> Its .05 or as we all know from school 5% of the exp loss saved. Needless to say I was bummed out when I saw, so maybe ya'll can explain why I got so little back.
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Read up in the forums about how moghancements work. Having one bed does little for you. Your moogle will say "your house is aglow with faint <elemental> energy."
The more energy you have (i.e. the more furniture you have with the same elemental type) the stronger the effect. As a gardener, I put tons of maple tables in my MH, bumping my energy up to overwhelming. My plants don't wither so soon and it would seem like my harvesting yields better results.
The more energy you have (i.e. the more furniture you have with the same elemental type) the stronger the effect. As a gardener, I put tons of maple tables in my MH, bumping my energy up to overwhelming. My plants don't wither so soon and it would seem like my harvesting yields better results.
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Ok - to clear up some BS info I am making this post.
If you get Raised or Reraised the beds do NOTHING for your EXP loss. That saving is based on the level of the spell (ie Raise vs Raise II).
The bed saves about 25% of what you would have lost.
For Example at level 40 (6800 total tnl) I went from 1117 experience to 601. Some basic arithmetic yields a loss of 516. I should have lost 680 (10% of your level).
516/680=~75% loss
Therefor, the Noble Bed saves you 2.5% if your level.
Since you lose 10% of your level when you die and respawn...
The Noble Bed Saves 25% of what you would have lost from a death without a raise!
That means if you die 4 times, only 3 end up counting... well worth the investment of about 85k gil!
If you get Raised or Reraised the beds do NOTHING for your EXP loss. That saving is based on the level of the spell (ie Raise vs Raise II).
The bed saves about 25% of what you would have lost.
For Example at level 40 (6800 total tnl) I went from 1117 experience to 601. Some basic arithmetic yields a loss of 516. I should have lost 680 (10% of your level).
516/680=~75% loss
Therefor, the Noble Bed saves you 2.5% if your level.
Since you lose 10% of your level when you die and respawn...
The Noble Bed Saves 25% of what you would have lost from a death without a raise!
That means if you die 4 times, only 3 end up counting... well worth the investment of about 85k gil!
I think it's funny that your title is "Dont be Dumb" but your post proves that you are. You charged in the forum and flamed without doing research and you made yourself look stupid. Please do research before you post. As you will see below, someone actually researched before flaming people on the forums, and you are completely wrong...
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After seeing so much conjecture about the xp saved by beds, and various Raise spells at various levels, I decided to do a little testing myself this weekend.
I have always accepted the belief that Raise II only benefits someone if they are level 50 or above; but people argue about it and I wanted to make sure.
So I took a level 30 job with a 3542 xp buffer and died several times.
At level 30, your TNL is 5800 -- therefore the loss of xp with death should be 580.
My first trial: Dying and going back to my Homepoint. In my Mog House was a Noble's Bed, a Mahogany Bed, a Bronze Bed, and a Simple Bed my total xp loss was 440 (approx. 75% of 580) - The beds saved me 25%.
My second trial: Dying and going back to my Homepoint. In my Mog House was just a Noble's Bed and my total xp loss was 440 (approx. 75% of 580) - The Noble's Bed alone saved me 25%. I do not, therefore, believe the beds stack.
My third trial: Dying and getting a Raise I, while I had a Noble's Bed in my Mog House. My total xp loss was 330 (75% of 440, which is 75% of the 10% 580 I should have lost). Even not going to the Homepoint, the bed saved me an initial 25% with my death, then I received an additional 25% of the modified death penalty when I got raised. You do not need to return to Homepoint for the beds to take effect.
My fourth and final trial: Dying and getting a Raise II, while I had a Noble's Bed in my Mog House. My total xp loss was 330 (75%of 440, which is 75% of the 10% 580 I should have lost). Once again the bed saved me 25% right off the top, and Raise II added no benefit because I was under level 50, as expected.
I would like to try once more, and receive a Raise III, but I couldn't find a WHM70+ willing to help at the time. I believe Raise III give the benefit regardless of level, as I received a Raise II when I was around level 40 and got back nearly all my xp. But I would like to test it to be sure, when I have the exact xp amount written down before and after my death.
Incidentally, twice while I died I had my status window open and saw the xp drop -- with the bed(s) in place, each time it was a loss of 440. This was before I returned to Homepoint or was Raised.
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Thankyou, have a nice day. ~.^
Edit: Credit for the quote above goes to TheShmoo. Thanks for taking one (or several) for the team!
Edited, Thu Feb 17 11:15:54 2005
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After seeing so much conjecture about the xp saved by beds, and various Raise spells at various levels, I decided to do a little testing myself this weekend.
I have always accepted the belief that Raise II only benefits someone if they are level 50 or above; but people argue about it and I wanted to make sure.
So I took a level 30 job with a 3542 xp buffer and died several times.
At level 30, your TNL is 5800 -- therefore the loss of xp with death should be 580.
My first trial: Dying and going back to my Homepoint. In my Mog House was a Noble's Bed, a Mahogany Bed, a Bronze Bed, and a Simple Bed my total xp loss was 440 (approx. 75% of 580) - The beds saved me 25%.
My second trial: Dying and going back to my Homepoint. In my Mog House was just a Noble's Bed and my total xp loss was 440 (approx. 75% of 580) - The Noble's Bed alone saved me 25%. I do not, therefore, believe the beds stack.
My third trial: Dying and getting a Raise I, while I had a Noble's Bed in my Mog House. My total xp loss was 330 (75% of 440, which is 75% of the 10% 580 I should have lost). Even not going to the Homepoint, the bed saved me an initial 25% with my death, then I received an additional 25% of the modified death penalty when I got raised. You do not need to return to Homepoint for the beds to take effect.
My fourth and final trial: Dying and getting a Raise II, while I had a Noble's Bed in my Mog House. My total xp loss was 330 (75%of 440, which is 75% of the 10% 580 I should have lost). Once again the bed saved me 25% right off the top, and Raise II added no benefit because I was under level 50, as expected.
I would like to try once more, and receive a Raise III, but I couldn't find a WHM70+ willing to help at the time. I believe Raise III give the benefit regardless of level, as I received a Raise II when I was around level 40 and got back nearly all my xp. But I would like to test it to be sure, when I have the exact xp amount written down before and after my death.
Incidentally, twice while I died I had my status window open and saw the xp drop -- with the bed(s) in place, each time it was a loss of 440. This was before I returned to Homepoint or was Raised.
______________________________________
Thankyou, have a nice day. ~.^
Edit: Credit for the quote above goes to TheShmoo. Thanks for taking one (or several) for the team!
Edited, Thu Feb 17 11:15:54 2005
Sekaidragon | Bastokan | Male | Elvaan | Fenrir | Rank 6
67-WHM|55-NIN|34-BLM|32-WAR|32-DRK|21-DRG|21-THF
99 Cooking | 43 Fishing | 50 Woodworking
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A wiseman once said "Better to keep quiet and have people think you're a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
Okay, I get asked almost daily ... Sekai means "to laugh" in Afrikaans... so my name means "Laughing Dragon."
67-WHM|55-NIN|34-BLM|32-WAR|32-DRK|21-DRG|21-THF
99 Cooking | 43 Fishing | 50 Woodworking
[sm]
A wiseman once said "Better to keep quiet and have people think you're a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
Okay, I get asked almost daily ... Sekai means "to laugh" in Afrikaans... so my name means "Laughing Dragon."
off course they dont stack they give diferent elements for your mog house.
So you will allways have Faint Thunder(noble bed element) energy.
Add many more Thunder furniture and when its overwhelming Thunder energy.
The experience saved should be increased.
Allthough this is only a theory.
So you will allways have Faint Thunder(noble bed element) energy.
Add many more Thunder furniture and when its overwhelming Thunder energy.
The experience saved should be increased.
Allthough this is only a theory.
I wish this wasn't so expensive. :(
I'm pissed! I'm a level 80 in woodworking. Bought all the materials and with advanced woodworking imagery, I attempt to synth this and I get the message, "That formula is beyond your current craft skill level."
Well it appears that I also need to be level 49 in both goldcraft and clothcraft. :(
Edited, Sat Jul 3 00:02:43 2004
Well it appears that I also need to be level 49 in both goldcraft and clothcraft. :(
Edited, Sat Jul 3 00:02:43 2004
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I store sheep's teeth in my bed in hopes that the tooth fairy moogle will come and deposit 1 million gil under my pillow.
Really? I use bat fangs. XD
Ok here is the figure i just got today(Aquarious NM killed 3 of us =P)
I was 46 exp. into lvl 60...I died and got a raise 2(75% exp back). I then had 19,872 exp. So the bed saved me 326 exp.
The bed saved me 1.6% of my TNL, or 16% of the amount I should have lost.
Mahogany Bed = Saving aproximately 10% of the amount of exp. you should have lost.
Nobles bed = Saving aproximately 15% of the amount of exp. you should have lost.
Edited, Mon Jun 21 14:05:55 2004
I was 46 exp. into lvl 60...I died and got a raise 2(75% exp back). I then had 19,872 exp. So the bed saved me 326 exp.
The bed saved me 1.6% of my TNL, or 16% of the amount I should have lost.
Mahogany Bed = Saving aproximately 10% of the amount of exp. you should have lost.
Nobles bed = Saving aproximately 15% of the amount of exp. you should have lost.
Edited, Mon Jun 21 14:05:55 2004
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Does anyone know how much EXP these will save you when you die?
How much XP saving during a KO can one expect with a Noble's Bed in their room?
Scholar
21 posts
10% is the savings
SandyWizard - just my experience (no pun)
7 posts
Not sure...
Quite a bit, from what I heard, though.
Edited, Fri Jun 4 18:40:24 2004
Quite a bit, from what I heard, though.
Edited, Fri Jun 4 18:40:24 2004