For those who still asking how long it takes to grow, and think 20 days means 20 hours, that is incorrect. Gardening takes lots of time for many plants to grow especially plants you do not use crystals to feed, such as when you are trying to grow saplings.
In Gardening 20 days means 20 EARTH days!
As a matter of protocol when I am gardning, especially with saplings or cuttings, when I log in for the first time in the day, I check my plants, and before I log out for the last time during the "Examine". You can attribute this to watering and pruning a plant on a daily basis.
Just like real life plants you HAVE to care for them, if you want them to grow. For various seeds that you would feed crystals, this is like adding a special kind of plant foow, to yield the kind of crop you want.
Please refer to Pikko's website listed in this thread, for recipes and hints and tips.
I heard u can grow Orichalcum Ores from Tree Saplings. Can any1 confirm?
Edit 01.07.06 I did an experiment planting 10 saplings in 10 porcelin pots (not sure of elemental day of planting). What i know for sure that i didn't feed any crystal and i never examined on a perticular day but very random (examined on every elemental day). Harvest results were: 9xgold leafs, 10xreishi mushrooms, 2xlights ore. And in case you are wondering I harvested on Firesday???!!! O.o
Hops thats info helps and still hoping to know if its posible to grow orichalcum ores from saplings.
Ok I hope this post helps all of you new sapling growers out there.
First and most important, saplings can only be grown from tree cuttings which are dropped off Gobbues in various areas. Getting these drops can require some patience even with TH2, so be patient and eventually you will get lucky. I struggle with the argument of it being quicker to farm other things for gil and then just buy the cuttings to plant. By this argument, it would also be quicker to skip the cutting stage and move right into saplings (if you plan to grow ores). Decide which is best for you. I personally enjoy being self sufficient.
Now then my experience has shown that the day on which the sapling is planted makes very little difference. Remember, in planting a cutting, you are guaranteed a sapling result. As for pot, porcelain will decrease the grow time by a little. As for whether or not you should run out and buy all porcelain when your MH is already full of a different type of pot? Unless you plan to become a full time grower, don't bother. The time shortened is only about a day, and doesn't effect the results. I initially bought 4 porcelains replacing 4 of my bronze pots. I had a good string of drops getting 6 cuttings in one day (about 2 hours). I decided to go ahead and plant in my bronze to compare the difference in yield. There was none. I acquired 2 saplings from each pot. Of note, not all the plants were planted at the same time. I waited to see if I could find more porcelain pots for superstition sake. Eventually I went ahead and planted them.
Eventually you will be prompted to feed a crystal. DO NOT FEED CRYSTALS IF YOU WANT SAPLINGS!! No crystals are required for saplings, just time. After about 20 days, your harvest will be ready. Before harvesting, examine the plants! There are two different messages that can be generated. "Kupo! This plant is ready to be picked, kupo!" "This plant has grown so big and is ready to be harvested, kupo!" (These are para-phrases as I can't remember the exact wording, but this is close enough to recognize the correct message you're looking for)
I have never received less than 2 (yes 2!!) sapling when harvesting after the the moogle says the first message. Remember you can examine the plants more than once to get the right message.
Well, there it is folks, the secret to hq harvest is out.
you mean game days right? so about 20hours...? just verifying ^^
also, does your mog have to be in your house? in other words, can i have my residence in jeuno and just call back my moogle whenever i want to check my saplings or do i have to have my residence in my home town the whole time? thanks. ^^
You can be in either your home countries MH (ie can access storage items) or can be in a rent-a-room. It doesn't really matter. Though I have read somewhere that being in the country from where the pot originates increases chance of a hq yield. And, no I'm sorry it's 20 real life days. It's a long time investment. But very worth it. It will effectively double your money put in every harvest even if you only get one sapling per pot. Getting more than one is just a welcome bonus.
Okay I read all the posts. Just to make it perrrfectly clear~ what am I supposed to plant to get tree saplings? And what crystals am I to feed them to make them grow? is there a particular day i should plant them? Oh, and do I need a special flower pot? should I be a Taru to garden? should I garden with my gear on, or should I strip all my armor and garden all natural? any help on this subject would be kind. >^-^<
I planted the tree cuttings and every time I go to check them, it says "These Plants aren't doing so well" when it has the option to feed it a crystal, and I constantly check them about 2-3 times a day. Am I doing something wrong? Are my trees going to die? Help me out here please.
will oak table give me a bosti have 7 maple and 3 wokbenches in my mh and i am gonig ot try to grow them and i know oak is alot better then the maple and workbench will that help my odds of a better harvest? ps i have mogchant ment gardening already
One main thing to keep in mind if anyone is trying to get an elemental ore. It is NOT 100% success rate. Some people have said it's about 50% but I think it's even lower than that. You could do all the planting and feeding and harvesting all according to the recipe and still end up with no Elemental Ore. All you can do is follow the guidelines and hope it all works out.
Anyone know where to find recipes for the elemental ores? I'm working on getting goldsmithing up and will one day be making the gems and I REALLY dont want to have to shell out 100k+ for EACH SYNTH. And in response to the last post about erasing the recipe list that was on here earlier, this won't be stealing anyone else's profits...if I can't grow the ore, I won't be using it in synths until I can and I'm not going to be selling these.
I'm sorry :P some people wern't so happy i had posted exactly how to grow ores ( i guess i putting them out of business lol) but yeah sorry i erased it
Okay everybody I'm going to post this only because I got tired of reading the same thing over and over again.
To get Tree Saplings: Plant Tree cuttings in a porcelain pot on ice day. DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT feed them any crystals at all. About 2-3 weeks after you planted them you will yield 1-2 Tree Saplings Note: This is the only way, and I do mean the only way to get Tree Saplings
What are tree saplings used for?? Tree Saplings are used in the growth of elemental ore, elemental clusters, and leafs. Other stuff is manageable however I haven't gotten anything else from these yet. I hope this helps everybody out.
I planted 1 tree cuttings on Firesday and 3 on Iceday.Harvested on Windsday with the moon at 98%.I harvested 2 tree saplings from each plant.They were ready to harvest when the moon was 50% or so but I waited for the Full Moon.So 4 cuttings produced 8 sapplings in 2-3 weeks.I think the day you plant isn't so important.How many ways have you tried?
I went to that website about gardening, that had the spreadsheet, pretty nice stuff
anywayz, I got ice ore in a rather odd way
i planted some saplings in a Brass pot, no idea which day, then I fed no crystal the 1st time, then i fed it a ice crystal on iceday the 2nd time, then I harvested on iceday and got ice ore :D
i also had another saplings growing, which I gave no crystal, then 1 fire crystal on firesday, then harvested on the same day as above, and got 3x reishi mushrooms out of it
I've been tring to harvest Ice Ores for 2 months now and none yet. I plant on Darksday,fertilize on Iceday and i end up with 9-12 Platum Leafs. Can anybody please tell me what i'm doing rong.
i planted 10 tree saplings im not sure about the days i have brass a cyrmaic pots and i used fire crystals and i checked them 2-3 times a day and i got 25 stacks of cinnamon sticks and "1" fire ore i was pissed wtf am i doing wrong
if you are trying to get the saplings, then you should NOT have fed it crystals
He's obviously going for the ore, which he said he got one. So you're post is as useless as half the ones on this site.
Now to help you out, I was told the following which has worked for me perfectly. Plant on darksday regardless what ore you want, but plant in porcelain pots. Feed it the crystal of the ore you want on that elements day, (i.e. Feed fire crystal on firesday for fire ore). Then again when possible on the next firesday.
Also you need to keep in mind you can't always get an ore because gardening is not an exact science, but by doing it that way I've have some good success with it.
you can grow these in almost any kind of pot ( i'm refering to cuttings) jsut leave them there and check em 2 or 3 times a day and grows saplings, then you can sell for small profit or garden with the saplings.
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If i plant the cuttings on Iceday should i feed them ice crystals on iceday as well...? i am very interested in gardening and have started taking notes on what i do. If anyone has any suggestions on what i should do to get the best results, please send me a response or e mail me at crimzendeth@verizon.net thanks ^^
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Nothing drops tree saplings, you have to grow them from tree cuttings and the best day to sew them is on ice day. you harvest 1 to 2 saplings per 1 tree cutting. The reason that people spend so much money on tree saplings is because you can grow high end ore and other high end items from it. For more info on these two seeds check out this site. http://cannotlinkto/ffxi/gardening/
I don't know about what drops Tree Saplings, only Tree Cuttings (Goobues). As far as why Tree Saplings are valuable? You can use Ice Crystals + Tree Saplings and grow Ice Ore. It takes a VERY, VERY long time but check your local AH under Goldsmith for Ice Ore and see the price. Well worth if to me.
You grow Tree Saplings from Tree Cuttings. Put a Tree Cutting in to a pot and don't feed it any crystals. Also Ice Ore while very valueable is a RARE result and it can take almost a month of earthtime to grow them.
I found out today that there is a maximum of 10 pots you can grow at a time, I did not know this, and thought it useful information for all that were wondering.(Information attained on another thread and may be incorrect. I have not tested this information yet.)
Here are some results for you guys to chew on for Tree Saplings:
I wake up in the morning, check pots, go to work, come home, check pots, Play, check pots, sleep...
Results: From the six pots, after about two weeks or so I got 9 Tree saplings. NO FAILURES. And I picked em on random days at random times and all kinds of moon phases.
Strangely, I have one still growing... It's been growing for a little under a month now... I am tempted to call a GM on it...
I now have a wall lined with Maple Tables and 9 pots. Going to get one more pot and grow Tree Cuttings in four, and Tree Saplings in four.
I'm sortta bragging, but I think this information would be relevant in the future for any one thats going to plant and try to attain the same result as me.
Mogahancement goes from Faint, to Powerfull to Overwhelming Earth energy. I put 14 workbenches and 3 or four maple tables (yes they fit) to crank up the energy to overwhelming.
Waiting on two cutting to (hope) give me sappling, after feeding crystals by mistake on my first two tries. /d'oh
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I don't know of any mobs that drop sapplings, though it's entirely possible that something does, as I'm only level 40 and haven't yet fought everything =P.
You don't necessarily have to buy sapplings, just grow your own from Tree Cuttings, which go for about 4k/per on Caitsith. Plant and harvest on Iceday, the day that's strong to the seed (Cuttings). This works in brass pots as well as porcelain. I'm currently attempting to grow one in an earthen pot just to see what happens. Should work though.
It also needs to be noted that the best results seem to happen when you check the pot at least once per RL day. The cuttings should take somewhere between 14-16 RL days to grow, at least that's been my experience. Time of month planted seems to affect the rate of growth, so try to plant as close to a new/full moon as you can. Also, it wouldn't hurt to harvest as close to a full moon as you can. They seem to grow faster by a day or so if grown in a porcelain pot as well.
So recap: Plant Cuttings on Iceday, harvest on Iceday, no crystal.