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A Bastokan wrought darksteel desk.
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# Aug 04 2008 at 11:18 AM Rating: Decent
test it and see
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This does not give TH!!!
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Confirmed by the developer panel themselves.

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Do the "luck" items like the four-leaf mandragora bud, millionaire's desk, etc. actually have anything special about them?

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There are no hidden effects programmed into these items. However, there is no way to program "luck" in real life, either.


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This does not give TH!!!
# Jan 11 2008 at 5:26 PM Rating: Good
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it does however give....added aura to moghancement conquest points
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# Dec 23 2007 at 11:14 AM Rating: Default
its true its ads TH2
i have them i make them i craft them
they make more drops from nm from normal drops
and more hq in craft believe or not i tested and i hade 5x hq on goldsmith craft 80 at on row

i only dont now if you need 1 mil+ 2 activate because i never below that
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Millionaire items ...
# Apr 09 2007 at 6:28 PM Rating: Default
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you can tell this item is gona cost ya just from the word "Millionaire" on its name
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# Oct 27 2006 at 7:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I have always been weary about this desk and its "rumoured" treasure hunter, so many people swear by it yet so many other people are quick to call BS on it. Anyway the price on these has dropped from 1,000,000 to 300,000 on my server over the last few months, so I thought I would buy one to put it to the test.

Now I'm a goldsmither who farms, mines and grows his own materials and I am currently farming Tree cuttings in the Sanctuary of Zi'Tah, to grow into nuggets for crafting, and quite frankly the drop rate is crappy with out treasure hunter, but after going back with the desk in my MH the drops were insane I got 9 tree cuttings in a row, it was windsday at the time, (dunno what moonphase was) Windsdays probabally my best day for farming cuttings, but 9 in a row was in incredible drop rate, if felt like I had just wolfed down a lucky egg omlette, sprinkled with diced rabbit tail and chopped 4 leaf mandy bud.

Now was this the work of the desk, or was it just coincidence? We all have our lucky moments, I think to belive it was the desk it was too much of a coincidence. I cant wait to log onto tomorrow and run some more tests.
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TH?
# May 18 2006 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Someone once told me that this item gives you a TH bonus only if it is a certain spot and position in your mog house. Any verification on this?
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# Dec 15 2005 at 4:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Well ;x I thought it was a rumour about the desk giving th bonuses. But someone gave me the desk for christmas and Im wondering now if it will really work. Gonna keep it for CP points anyways but can anyone give me a link to the article where it was disproven Or I read someone here said they had screenshots where the effects were proven. Just curious and want to know one way or the other. ^^; would be nice to be able to get up to th6 ^^
th2 naturally
+ 2 on af gloves
+ 1 on knife
+ 1 on desk

^^ but its still a nice desk for conquest points I guess ^^ and itll make my mh look pretty lmao.

If anyone has solid confirmed info on desk pm here ^^ thanks
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proof?
# Jul 13 2006 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
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now, i cant tell u exactly how to do this, but im told u can use a windower, and watch ur code, TH im told gives u extra chances to roll high enough, but im told well watching ur code, this thing actualy just adds i think it was either 15 or 25 to ur roll on if u get an item, now this is just what i was told, and idk how to do it, if u figure it out, tell me :)
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RE: proof?
# May 19 2006 at 12:17 PM Rating: Decent
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"th2 naturally
+ 2 on af gloves
+ 1 on knife
+ 1 on desk "

Assassin's Armlets (NQ and +1) only give TH+1
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TH on the desk? Hah!!!
# Nov 27 2005 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I am afraid that I have to put in my two cents here. Saved up my gil as a lil thief (around 30), kept it until I was 50. Ran tests (lending to others for comparative testing also), did everything I could to see if there was any difference. Answer: none whatsoever. I will admit that it had 2 benefits: 1) I racked up a huge amount of CP, and 2) I sold it for a rather impressive profit just before the news came out that it did not help TH or HQ crafting.
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I think it's 96 Goldsmithing 51 Smithing 60 wood cap.
Ancient lumber is like a lvl 72 Wood synth but I think the cap for wood on this particular synth IS 60.
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Tried it
# Oct 10 2005 at 12:37 PM Rating: Decent
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I farm a lot, and perhaps it is all luck but since I bought this I have seen an increase in drops, when farming I rarely go without seeing a drop anymore. But like I said maybe all luck but until my drops go back to how they were before the desk, I am going to keep it.

THF65/NIN32

Edited, Mon Oct 10 13:46:03 2005
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# Oct 07 2005 at 2:00 PM Rating: Decent
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I would like to make one but the woodworking(--) and Smithing (--) has me worried. Does anyone know or crafted one successfully here that can tell me thier Smithing and Woodworking? Also two of my roommates have these and you get the Moghancement:Conquest, but apperantly you can't have anything in your mog house layout wise( No furniture or what have you).
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# Oct 02 2005 at 10:18 PM Rating: Default
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My friend, 75 rng/thf (all sj's are lvld btw) has 2 of these and they dont give TH and they dont stack TH so dont buy them if thats what your looking for. We camped LL, Jej, Cargo Crab Colin, and he fought Kirin...(im not high enuff for that yet) LL didnt drop after 2 kills, Jej of course didnt drop, We got the Nadrs off of CCC ^.^, but alas no osode drop from kirin ;;...and btw, since you have to have these in your Layout in your mog for moghancemet or ""Hidden Effects" to kick in, how could that guy have 60 in his mog...-.- you cant put that many in your layout...have you seen this thing? Its huge...Sorry just thought i would let you guys know b4 u camp for a month to buy this thing just to be disappointed.
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# Sep 22 2005 at 7:26 PM Rating: Default
the guy who said someone was making 100mil a day? that cant happen cause the most gil you can have is 99,999,999 the only way he could have that much is if he have more gil in his DB or he was buyin a whole lotta expensive stuff
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Actually, the most gil you can have is 999,999,999 ... however the most you can list an item in your bazaar for is 99,999,999 ... so the most gil you can have is enough to buy 10 maxed out priced bazaar items. Even the mention of making 100mil/day is enough reason to skip the rest of the post, and it's either a prank/joke or a really sad sad loser ... lol ... My THF is about to turn 40, and I was thinking about getting one, but at near a mil, I would like some proof that these actually do something .... hmmm ... dilemas...
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There is someone on Hades with 3 billion gil...
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# Sep 22 2005 at 7:25 PM Rating: Default
#xionxxxxx, Posted: Sep 17 2005 at 11:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OMG, you wouldn't believe me, but my Friend is a lvl 75 THF/RNG, he used to have 60 of these in his MH!, we were doing a Dynamis Run and 20 M. Silverpieces drop!. We went for a GOD run, and after Kirin died, 5 Kirin Osades Dropped!, I Was like WTF?! he made over 100 million gil a day! even after killing Serket, the same 5 Serket Rings came out each time, again and again. he got his Goldsmithing up to lvl 100+10, and he crafted 3 Vulcans Rings a day, sold them each for 100,000,000 gil to special people he knew. Well, after awhile he bought a website and quit FF11, and now hes got 800,000,000,000 gil to sell, he'll prolly buy a new house with the money hes making off gilbuyers.
RE: OMG my Friend is a Multi-Billionaire
# Sep 19 2005 at 8:16 AM Rating: Decent
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Interesting.
I am going to try his method to become Billionaire ! LMAO.

This look like an office joke I get daily ! :P
BUT ...
# Sep 07 2005 at 6:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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... it looks nice in mog, in front of your Noble's bed !
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# Sep 04 2005 at 12:21 AM Rating: Good
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I heard that the TH effect also works if you dont have thf main/sub can anyone confirm this for me?
meh
# Aug 16 2005 at 10:38 PM Rating: Default
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I have these items in my possession...
4Leaf-Mandra Bud
Wild Rabbit's Tail
Lucky Egg
Millionare's Desk

I am a 58Thf/Nin

Some would say i have TH2+5.
Some would say i have a pile of junk..

from what i have seen my drop% has improved greatly after obtaining all four of these items (within 2 days to get all)..
I farm spiderwebs in west altepa.. within a timespan of 2hours, i can get 15-20 webs. i have even had a few times where they'd drop consecutivly.. most i had drop was 4 in a row.

anyone who hunts spiders might notice that their droprate = jacksh*t, compared to this
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Conquest points
# Aug 16 2005 at 6:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Is there any other Furnatures give Conquest points ?
No TH No Guild support.
# Aug 12 2005 at 3:36 PM Rating: Default
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Description: Moogle-powered assistanced from your Mog House. Increases the number of individual conquest points received.

This is NOT for TH or Crafting. It's for Conquest points.
RE: No TH No Guild support.
# Aug 21 2005 at 4:18 AM Rating: Decent
Accautly i had a desk & sold it bc i thought there was no differance "There is". I re-aquired another desk & noticed a increase in drops & crafting HQ of alot of my items i normaly don't HQ alot of. "I am not telling everyone to go buy one", just ask some1 you trust that has TH2 & the Desk if they notice a increase of item drops if they say no ask them to send it to a mule while they farm & they willl notice less drops. this is just what i did & I noticed a large differance. Don't just take my word on it try it.

Edited, Sun Aug 21 05:17:54 2005
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# Aug 11 2005 at 8:39 PM Rating: Decent
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Bought mine in Shiva for 900K, read all the rumors and wanted to see for myself. Well I first heard about it from a high lvl friend of mine who decided to buy one and test it, While farming, which he hates since his drop rates were always horrible he noticed an increase in drops so he bought another desk to see if it stacks, which he soon found out it doesn't.

Lvling my RNG and NIN from 7-10 I had ok drop rates using signet and the aketons (which increase crystal drops). Drops were as follows from lvl 7-10 in Gustaberg Vomp Hill.

RNG: 12 Earth Crystals, 2 Wind, 3 Fire, 10 Random items (Ores, Bat wings, Sheepskin)

NIN: 6 Earth Crystals, 2 Fire, 1 Wind, 7 Random items (Bstseals, Bonechip, Sheepskin, Ores)

Now lvling my MNK from 7-10 with the desk, signet and no aketon drops were as follows.

MNK: 12 Earth Crystals, 12 Wind Crystals, 9 Fire Crystals, 3 Sheepskin, 6 Ores, 8 Beehive Chips, 10 Bstseals, 3 Insect Wings, 2 Goblin Masks, 3 Wild Onions, 4 Pots of Honey.

This difference made me really think it might actually be true or maybe my MNK was just lucky, Out of all the mobs I fought with MNK, only 4-5 didn't drop anything. I have yet to try an NM so I'll be back to update. Even if this was just a fluke the desk is still nice to have in your MH and that should count for something right?
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its bull
# Aug 04 2005 at 2:14 PM Rating: Decent
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it doesnt add TH+2 theres no way only THF AF could that is the only way you guys are so naive to buy into it. a crafter said it so you would buy it and give him more gil you ignorant little kids.

Edit: It would also be posted that it gives TH+2 on here but it's not true experiment for yourselves not from what a person says who is trying to **** you over for gil.

Edited, Thu Aug 4 15:27:38 2005
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RE: its bull
# Nov 22 2005 at 9:34 PM Rating: Default
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Wow!! that has to be one of the rudest things I've read on this site. The fact is this DOES work. It works well. My drop rate went up 50-70% since I bought this. I've even recieved the infamous Lantern Shield 1 out of 3 kills from the Orcish Barracader. Before I killed it at least 12 times and never got the drop. So please before you belittle people with your petty arrogance I suggest you do some research or try it yourself.
i need 1mil?
# Jul 25 2005 at 4:48 PM Rating: Decent
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do i need 1 mil on me to use TH+2? do i have to /thf to use it?
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# Jul 14 2005 at 12:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Use to have this for NM hunting sold it for 3 mil >.> made a 2650k profit from it ... but after wards my drops went down the hole >< I havent gotten a big time NM drop from any thing cept Rare/EX ones like the O. Cross bow thing in Gustav. I'd have to say this thing does boost your TH ability in my oppinion.
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# Jul 03 2005 at 10:26 AM Rating: Default
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WOW i need this (Bio)tch. a THF 45 with +2 TH would be a pretty nice NM camper^^ I better start mining tho. bet it costs quite alot on seraph... (/sigh)


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# Jul 03 2005 at 10:20 AM Rating: Default
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sorry, double post

Edited, Sun Jul 3 11:32:19 2005
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THF Knife
# Jun 30 2005 at 10:43 AM Rating: Decent
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So why would a Thief's Knife which gives TH +1 run for so much on some server's and be so rare on others it never sells or is even put on the AH yet this desk which supposedly gives TH+2 runs for so much less? Furthermore if it really did give TH+2 why would it be so much easier to obtain than an item that gives TH+2 that almost NEVER drops off of an NM that sometimes takes hours to pop? I don't believe this really gives TH+2.
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Because theifs knife is a very rare drop of a **** NM. Millionaires desk just needs to be synthed
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# Jun 09 2005 at 4:35 PM Rating: Default
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ahhh hmm, yeah post made on that "Hidden Secrets Uncovered" topic deal.. you sure did write alot of lies... where GM arent not allowed to give game infomation out to players.. so Bam, there goes your essay that you wrote... again, GM are NEVER, and they CAN NOT give out game infomation. post a screen shot of a GM chat tell you hidden things about the game, we all like to see that... get all the info on anything and everything then... geezes why do people lie like that....
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do this thing give th + or no
# Jun 08 2005 at 12:02 PM Rating: Default
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can any 1 say yes it give + TH or no

Edited, Wed Jun 8 13:04:59 2005
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Has the affects of this been proven at all?
millionaires desk
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funny how its a millionaires desk but never sells for less than 1.9 million on quetz server.

which in my opinion is outrageous.

im from qeutz server if anyone can make this for me ill buy items and give a handsome reward pls send me tell anytime after 9 pm eastern standard time on quetzalcoatl server thank you



Edited, Tue Jun 7 17:13:03 2005
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# Jun 05 2005 at 10:36 PM Rating: Default
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been reading the posts, i think i know a little...
The TH +2 makesthis ideal for a thf 45+ giving him a total of TH +4 then at level 70 when you get TH3 thats a total of TH5 and if you buy the (insert high amount of gil here) dagger that gives TH +1 for THF only (note this) you will get a total of TH6 which i would kill for if your main or sub is not THF, this anything TH+ is worthless because u have nothing to be added too. so if your a level 30 + job with a 15+thf sub you get a total of TH3 with this desk thats the equivalent to a THF lvl 70 with no TH+ items. Now the rumor of it having to be placed in a certain place in your mog... this should be investigated when i have the gil i will buy this, and test it out but if someone does test it out please post your results, they would be interesting to see.
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Quote:
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I had a little chat with Sqare Enix and some of the producers of the game and i also called a little chat with a GM for fun, they gave me a little helpful information on the Desk, that i am not in Libberty to say right now but i can tell you that the information that i have posted is very much so True.


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# Jun 04 2005 at 5:25 PM Rating: Decent
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judt bought the thing and just dinged 75 thf so im gonna be farming alot to save enough gill yo lvl rng. ill ler u know if its any change in my normal drops ill be farming cuttings if u guys r wondering. if this things sux its goin right back to the ah :P

Edited, Sat Jun 4 19:02:37 2005
HQ?
# Jun 01 2005 at 8:42 PM Rating: Decent
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This might sound really stupid but does anyone think it would be possible to HQ this item? I know Gold caps at 96 on it so you would have to be ungodly lucky and totally capped for gold but if anyone has been able to HQ it please post your findings. I'm interested to see if it would just be the same item or a new desk alltogether.
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Since there isn't a HQ 'output item' listed for the recipe, if you did happen to get an HQ all that would happen is you'd see the HQ animation but get the desk like normal.
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RE: HQ?
# Sep 30 2005 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
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joke:

hq1 = billionaires desk
hq2 = bajillionaires desk
hq3 = JP ONRY desk, gives all benefits of being JP
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meh
# Jun 01 2005 at 1:51 PM Rating: Excellent
The only difference I noticed after buying this desk was a lighter purse. On THF main and /THF no difference in drops. After shifting gil between mules to try with more and less than 1 million gil, nothing. No obvious changes in synth success or HQ or material loss rate.

Please don't bother posting anything that "someone told you" if you can't personally back it up. One time my cat told me that I should run for Prime Minister, and the next day the PM was assassinated. It was really just my cat trying to knock me off so it could molest my dog.

Moral of the story: Buy this desk if you have alot of gil, it looks nice in your mog house. DON'T buy it if you're poor and trying to make more gil, because NO ONE has proven it has any indirect gil-enhancing effects by increasing drop rate/rarity or synth success rate. Do not listen to your cat, it's a liar. Do not leave your cat in the same room as your dog - it has ulterior motives.
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bought it last night.
have it in my MH.
go tested on Skink in S. Camp. 0/5 on Raptor Skins.
Tested on Death Jack in CN, 2/10 on Royal Jelly (which is almost super rare drop).
Confused.

However, I will keep trying. Funny to look at this thread make some people ****
Confirmation
# May 26 2005 at 9:49 AM Rating: Default
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Well, it sounds like most people are all mixed up on the enhanchments on the "Millionare's Desk" so i have ran many tests and studies on the Desk and how it does effect your drop rate's Synthesis and many other aspects of the game so here is what i have came up with:

TH +2:

The "Millionare Desk" Does have the enhanchment of TH, So what does this Mean? It means the following: You have to be lower than a lvl 45 Thf that already has TH2 to get the effect, So that confirms most of the information that people were saying that there was the possiblility of TH3 Because there isn't. The desk gives the effect of if you are a thf lower than lvl 45 you will get the added effect of TH, meaning that you will have another TH ontop of the TH you already have giving you TH2. It has also been said that it will give you better drop rate if you are over a lvl 45 thf this is true, but you have to have THF MAIN and you cannot sub thf and get away with it.

Synth effects:

Some things people do not know is that It "MIGHT" have a Synthesis effect rate to increase Synthesis, but has it been tested i have only seen it been tested on Cooking once and it didn't increase the rate at all, but at the same time what the kid didn't realize is the DAY and Moon phase that he was Synthing the item so that could have decreased his sucess rate and further more made his Information FALSE, nobody is sure that it will increase you Skill for synthing because it has not been tested on all Crafts but the information that one kid has on this fourm about 8-10 lvl's increase if False BLASPHEMY do not pay attention to his fourm post.

Gil for Effect:

People that say that you have to have 1 million gil for the effect for it to work there is NO Information to back up that Argument so WHY should we believe them? we have no reason too. for my testings i do not believe that you don't NEED or Should have a Million gil in you inv. for the effect to work its just false information to steer people away from Purchasing the Desk.

Now, i got the desk tested it with a lvl 40 Thf on many different mobs With And Without the Desk in my MH and the results were amazingly different i got alot more drops off of the mobs with the Desk in my MH so it does work. i also tested it out without the desk in my MH and the results were terrible compared to the ones with the Desk in my MH(Read the info on TH +2 before)

I also tested with a lvl 45 Thf and the drop rates were nearly the same

NM's:

The two fellows Theiry on the Leaping Lizzy drops are accurate in some way, but not at all so i'm gonna clear that up right now, a Notorious Monster has its own drop rates and it increases and decreases on the Day, and Moon phases and also on you effect of TH or TH2 so if you have TH and you have the "Millionare Desk" in you MH then you will have the effect of TH2, which will increase your Drop rate from the NM, but people that are already lvl 45 Thf and have the "Millionare's Desk in there MH will NOT get another TH+ to there TH2 You can't get higher than TH2 with the "Millionare's Desk", but the desk will increase drops rates to a certain Percentage.

Enhancemnts:

Not everybody that has a desk does not know if it has hidden effects because they have not been tested at all but the one i know for sure is the information on TH+ adding to your current TH and the increase of the drop rate Percentage! So i suggest that you test the desk and Hidden effects for yourself and let us know how it works out, also pay attention to the Job/Subjob you are using because that also could effect the Results, keep all Days, times and moon phases so you know How that might effect the Results also.

FYI(For Your Information)
I had a little chat with Sqare Enix and some of the producers of the game and i also called a little chat with a GM for fun, they gave me a little helpful information on the Desk, that i am not in Libberty to say right now but i can tell you that the information that i have posted is very much so True.

Thanks
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Oh, so YOU wanted to WRITE every other WORD in CAPS...

anywho... Nothing you say can be backed up by what little info you've given us here, so we can't believe you any more than we can belive anyone else.
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I was told online [Kujata] that you have to have it in the right spot in your MH for hidden affect to work. lower right or left side. i forget but will find out where and how my info man knows this.
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Ok this is what i do,

First of all i got the desk cuz the "ENHANCES SYNTESIS SUCCESS" Hiden effect... i noticed that allakazam removed the hiden effects from this item...

Well im level 94 Cook, and i tried whit sole sushi, iceday moon... i dont recall

Made 21 Synts for sole sushi whit no desk, result

12 NQ
5 HQ
4 Lost

Then i rush into the ah get the 2 million gil desk and go a again

21 Synts for sole sushi.. and this is the change

14 NQ
4 HQ
3 Lost

So if its there a a hidden skill should be a major change not 1 less fail.

Now for the drop rate TH thing, i have a level 74blm and did the test i dont rememeber how many trains i made but was enough to get like 3 items from 12 mobs and nothing changed whit desk or whitout it.

So i rush again to the ah to sell the desk, for my luck price rised a little so i ended whit 100 more than what i paid for....

My 2 cents... if you have a way to make gil out of the dumbs go ahead be a high level crafter, start a rumor on a site like this one, and walaa you are rich...

by the way sole sushi gives hiden effect of looser -75% go buy mine... ROFL

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The hidden effects were submitted to Haggan and so he added them.

However, I bought a desk myself and tested it out with my husband's 65DRK/30THF and saw absolutely no evidence that it enhanced his TH at all, so I removed it. I added the Mog: Conquest because that is what the desk gave.
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Most interesting Pikko, thank you. Could you do us a tremendous favor and post the data of your test? I hold no bias toward either side, but with some actual hard data we might finally put the rumors to rest and expose the truths. Thank you. :)

Edited, Fri Aug 26 17:57:04 2005
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oooo nm they are gone lol

Edited, Tue May 17 22:23:05 2005
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I don't believe there is a hidden effect. People probably think there is a hidden effect because it says "Millionare Desk" that this desk would MAKE you rich, but I think it's just that you have to be rich to get this desk. And any hidden effect would probably be to increase success on dark crystal synths.
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Here are some stats on this desk... I guess you can decide if the testing was valid enough or further testing is required. I figured the best thing to do was to test in the same manner most individuals would actually play the game.
So I took two mid level jobs and farmed 100 low level mobs with and without the desk in my mog. Smiley: snore It should be noted that the enhancement for the desk is Conquest points and I have high lightning energy in mine for Experience. But you would think if Thief 2 is a side effect of the desk it would make no difference.
However, I also took two entry level jobs and leveled them to five and had only the desk in my mog. Ok enough talk, here are the stats:

Moon phase: Waning Crescent
Day: Darksday
Job: 49 BST/WHM
Desk in Moghouse: NO
Mob: One hundred Rabbits
Area: West Ronfaure
# Dropped Items: 16

Moon phase: Waning Crescent
Day: Firesday
Job: 49 BST/WHM
Desk in Moghouse: Yes
Mob: One hundred Rabbits
Area: West Ronfaure
# Dropped Items: 14

Moon phase: Waning Crescent
Day: Firesday
Job: 46 THF/RNG
Desk in Moghouse: No
Mob: One hundred Rabbits
Area: West Ronfaure
# Dropped Items: 22

Moon phase: Waning Crescent
Day: Firesday
Job: 46 THF/RNG
Desk in Moghouse: Yes
Mob: One hundred Rabbits
Area: West Ronfaure
# Dropped Items: 24

Moon phase: Waning Crescent
Day: Darksday
Job: 01-05 THF/RDM
Desk in Moghouse: Yes
Mob:
16 Pugils
17 Rabbits
16 Worms
2 Orcs
3 Gob

Area: East Ronfaure
# Dropped Items: 14
# Dropped Crystals: 19

Moon phase: Waning Crescent
Day: Darksday
Job: 01-05 RDM/WHM
Desk in Moghouse: No

Mob:
16 Pugils
17 Rabbits
16 Worms
4 Orcs
1 Gob

Area: East Ronfaure
# Dropped Items: 13
# Dropped Crystals: 13


One major item of note. You can see how when I switched to the 46 Thief that the drops went up significantly. Obviously this is because of Thief 2. Now if the desk gave you Thief 2... you would think when I did the Beastmaster that there would have been a fairly significant change in dropped items.

Anyway I hope this helps some. I guess I could test all the days and different moon phases especially the full moon but for a 1 million gil item I believe I have the answers I need. I still have to test the crystal breaking theory but I'm wore out from testing. Smiley: grin Take care.

Edited, Sat May 14 15:23:18 2005
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If you would like to know why the desk probably didn't work out for you, check this website
http://ffxi.cannotlinkto/itemdb/furniture.php . I make the no claims but if there had been a hidden effect, your high lightning element in mog wouldn't have permitted you to get the bonus anyhow so your tests are invalid.

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This desk only has a 2 darkness elemental strength and could easily be overpowered by other elements. Even alone, its only 2 darkness and may not even be strong enough to get a noticible increase in droprate. I'm currently trying trying to get a "<i>powerful<i> darkness energy" to make a more accurate test of this item. And no, I personally do not believe it has a hidden effect but if it does, I'm one to try and take full advantage of it.

Edited, Tue May 17 08:57:28 2005
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RE: Thief 2 Testing phase
# May 15 2005 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
It doesnt give you TH2 it gives you TH+2
so if ur main or sub isnt thf and high enough to get TH this desk will not benefit you
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Okay so Treasure Hunter +2 versus Thief 2 (which is Treasure Hunter 2). Ok so thats +2 to My "Thief 2" then right? Actually that was part of the question I was trying to prove or disprove.
So maybe I need to do a longer test with my thief. I did 100 mobs with and without the desk in the moghouse. I got two more items. Thats a 0.83 % increase in drops. Not sure that is beneficial at a million gil....
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# May 17 2005 at 12:56 AM Rating: Decent
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The ingredients doesnt cost more than 200-250k on ragnarok so i just bought those and had a highlvl goldsmith make it for me. It's hardly worth a million gil and its unneccesary to pay that much for one, imo, when its much cheaper to make.
I havent noticed any huge increase in drops while farming on thf since i got it, but thats not the reason i had it made either since the +th is very hard to prove.
I do however feel that i lose less materials on failed synths now.
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Correction
appearently granite has gone from 4k to to 250k during this last month o_o; and the price for the desk itself is climbing everyday and up to 2mil atm
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Ok I read somewhere in a recent post that it gives you TH+2 if you don't already have it, i.e. it doesn't stack for TH IV if your a lvl 45 THF

So I could be a war/nin and have TH2?

Seems very doubtful
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EDIT: Let me prep my post by saying this: I'm lvl45 THF with the Desk as my only furniture in MH. I have the Moghancement:Conquest.

Three reasons:

1) Somepage doesn't have it listed.

2) <Treasure Hunter> is a Light based trait. This desk gives a Dark aura.

3) Personal experience—I'm on a 0/11 streak on Leaping Lizzy. My total record is something like 7/32.

Edited, Sat May 14 03:18:45 2005
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TH does not effect NM Drops or Rare/EX Drops just so u know


The devs have said otherwise, I'll think I'll take their word over yours seeing as they would be in a much better position to know.
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
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YA far as I know TH2 has said effects (not TH1). What TH has no affect on is BCNM "drops" since your are opening a chest and nothing is dropped.
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There have been a lot of posts surrounding the claim "Hidden Effect" Treasure Hunter +2", but very little discussion regarding the "Hidden Effect: Synthesis Success Up." Does anyone have any information, hypotheses, theories, or suspicions surrounding the crafting aspect?

Is the Synthesis Success Up helpful for skilling up, preventing breaks, HQing?

I'm a 72 Alchemist and just curious. I don't have the desk myself, but just wondering. {Take care}!
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I notice with this desk in place that i am able to craft things 8-10 lvls above me, with a very nice success rate; around 70%. When i get within 5 lvls of the synth, i succeed 80-90%.

The Mil Desk is the only mog furniture i have RN, and i crafted before i had one. However i did notice a huge boost in success once i got it.

Take it or leave it

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Seems less likely then the TH +2.

Honestly places like Somepage and Mysterytour do not mention anything about "hidden effects" and both of those sites are very creadible sources.
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would that only work if you have thf on or would it work for a rdm/blm?
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Do you guys know any statistics at all.. do you also know the power of positive thinking??

Just b/c you had "amazing dropz0rs" 1-2 times after getting the desk, means about Jack and **** Try farming 1,000 or more of something with it, then 1,000 more of the SAME thing under the SAME conditions.. THEN you can make a half-decent valid argument.

Until somebody does that, I claim **** It's a crafting and CP item, and that's that.
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Dear God a hidden and untested effects should never be allowed to be reported. The Mods really need to remove those.


As someone else said

Thiefs Knife: 20 Million
Millionares Desk: 600k to 1 Million

I can't see this actually having TH +2 on it.

BTW if you put a gold bed in your MH it has the hidden effect of increasing the amount of gold ores you can mine if you have a gold ingot in your inventory...

The above makes about as much scense to me as the TH +2 effect on the Millionares Desk.


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Wow... never looked at it that way, you are right, thanks you saved me about 600k-1 mil o.O
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BTW if you put a gold bed in your MH it has the hidden effect of increasing the amount of gold ores you can mine if you have a gold ingot in your inventory...


OMG!!1 Now for every one of those I get i'ma sell it in the Auction House for 1 million more than its worth!!!1 ;D

...Kidding of course... (._.)
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I'm an avid camper of Leaping Lizzy. I averaged 1 drop in 7 kills before I got this desk. After I got it, I started getting a drop in 2-4 kills, reliably. I hadn't thought of it, but needing 1mil+ on you for it to have effect -might- be true, because the last drop I got was after 7 kills again and I only had about 500K on me. Of course, my luck could've just fluctuated too.

I've noticed this helping in other places too.. Took a group of 5 people into Phomiuna Aquaducts to go after JSE subligars. 4 of the 5 people had been trying a long time to get theirs and we got all 5, plus 2 extras in about 1.5 hours. With me getting the last hit on everything, our worst drop rate was 1/2. It was a lot worse before we started letting me get the last hit, so I now believe in this rumour too. I was THF/WHM at the time, btw. Lol. :p

I've noticed the effect when farming a lot of other random things too, and I'd also add that the bonus from the desk does -not- come into effect unless you're THF. THF sub might work. I dunno because I'm never THF sub. It's either all or nothing. :P

Btw, Millionaire Desk is the -only- furniture in my MH. Been debating getting a 2nd desk, but I don't know if they stack and dunno if I wanna waste money to find out. :p

Please rate up if this was useful, and please don't rate down if you think I'm wrong. It's just my educated guessing and could very well be wrong. In my opinion, it is definitely worth having this desk if you're a THF. :)
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wtf? TH does effect drops you're just a stupid newb.
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