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the math?
# Jun 09 2008 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
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ok ok ok ... let me get this straight... 1 double attack is 2 swings per round right? So if AN attack could be 3 hits with a ridill AND you double attack does that open the possiblity of 6 swings in a round? and if that applies and you sub joy toy does that mean you could have 10 swings in a round? and if those apply and its not a joy but a krak could you get 22 swings in one round? What if you got a triple attack piece and its 33 swings in one round...

NOW. if you miss a round cuz yer still swinging from the prior round you end up not getten as many opportunities for the weapon to attack which in turn limits total attacks because you missed an round entirely. Wouldnt you rather have 2 attacks like joy toy so that you get fresh rounds on time with more opportunities to "Occassionally attack twice?" Is ridill better than kraken because of this?

Or is it all just about getten tp asap and unloading a SWORD or CLUB ws?? lol which means too weak in the first place doesnt it? im pretty sure a good war/thf with a Gaxe can deal out twice as much dmg as those ws in half the time. making them about the same. one being entirely possible for everyone and the other being VERY HARD for most to accomplish...

right ok its all clear now.



PS im not in school anymore and dont care about whats capitilized and where a period goes. so save yerself the replies... and while yer at it, save yer replys too cuz i wont be readin this again, just saw the **** on this item so far and had to add to it lol have a nice day
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the math?
# Jun 20 2008 at 4:34 PM Rating: Decent
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There is a cap on how many swing you can achieve per "round". I believe it is 14 max. Someone out there correct me if I am wrong on the exact number; but no, it is not possible for 22 swings/round.
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the math?
# Jul 11 2008 at 12:48 AM Rating: Default
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The cap is 8. You will never swing more the 8 times in a round. And you cant get more then 3 hits in with a Ridill or 8 hits in with a KC. If you double attack with a Ridill or KC you will only attack twice. The double attack over rights the occassionlly attacks x amount of times.

Even if your still swinging when a new attack round starts, you still do the dmg and get the TP for the new attack round. you just dont see the anamation for it. trust me, i have a Ridill, i know how this stuff work. Gaxe war suck compared to Ridill wars only if the Ridill war knows how to make the Ridill do its job to its fullest posabilities.

Also, Vorpal Blade doesnt suck, I do 1k+ ws all the time with it, and trust me, you dont see gaxe wars doing 2k WS very often. If people tell you that, then they are lieing. I outparse Sams, and BB mnks pretty easy, and those jobs own Gaxe wars. so get your facts stright on how they work.
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# Sep 07 2007 at 11:10 PM Rating: Decent
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In the uh, Volsung Saga/Nibelungenlied or whatever ridiil and hrotti were the sacred treasure swords kept by the dragon fafnir...makes sense...faffy drops them both. I'm sort of wonder though - has anyone tried to dual wield them?
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# Jul 12 2007 at 12:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Quote: "WARNING: THE FOLLOWING IS A RANT FROM AN ANGRY BLUE MAGE

seriously, why doesn't SE let us use any of the good swords? We're falchion and scimitar users, and they don't let us use ridill or seiryu's sword, which are the best from both classes of sword. What's goin on here, SE? Help us out a little on our melee abilities, they're a bit lacking at the moment."



Blue M A G E....implies caster....you should be thankful of the fact that your even as decent at melee as you are....be grateful that /nin is a viable sub job for the class and be thankful that SE didnt pidgeonhole you as a caster hybrid class subbing whm or blm,like RDM.

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# Jun 15 2009 at 4:00 AM Rating: Decent
This may be necro bump but I felt it was a good time to elaborate on SE's decision on this. At the time Bluemage was released and enhanced SE was entrenched in an RMT war, added to this was the growing evidence (proof) that HNM shells were botting Fafhog and selling rare ex drops for profit or rmt purposes. SE felt that to limit rmt's hold on the game that bluemage be left off certain items dropped from HNM's choosing instead to equip Bluemage primarily through ToAU area's and quests. SE was unable to create an equal/better sword for fear of making HNM's which they felt were operating as intended though abused, into undesired content.

SE later unsuccessfully attempted to remedy their bumbling handling of that situation by adding Zeni NM's to the game, along with Einherjar. Neither of which has any items that surpass Ridill in ability or potential. Although these issues could clearly and easily be mopped up in one sweeping simple change SE chooses to ignore the problem not out of Sociopathia but out of the need to save face. They will not admit they are wrong until something becomes a public relations problem ie. the problem makes a major internet or real world publication and gains international attention.
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# Jun 23 2007 at 11:51 PM Rating: Decent
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What the **** is a BLU complaining about? Last time I checked you were basically the most overpowered job in the game. Get bent.
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no ridill from assault proof, as of yet.
# Apr 16 2007 at 7:43 AM Rating: Decent
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there is no confirmation that Ridill drops from Nyzl Isle. It was proved to be a fake SS.
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# Mar 28 2007 at 4:59 AM Rating: Default
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Ridill been confirmed to drop in the Nyzule Isle Assault by the ??? item.
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# Mar 07 2007 at 5:11 PM Rating: Decent
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well ive seen the best of pretty much every job and id have 2 say the most impressive thing ive seen to date is a DRK/NIN ridill/kraken using blood weapon + souleater in ballista and killing 6 ppl, Ridill is the **** would love one hopefully with the new update of Fafnir being in that assault Ridill will be easier to get^^
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# Mar 03 2007 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
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Wraith it's people like you (Scholar status too LOL) that make thousands of people make fun of this site and it's ridiculous amount of pathetic trashy noob players.

It will be a COLD DAY IN **** before a Blu would ever get a ridill even if SE did make it equippable by BLU.

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# Feb 03 2007 at 2:44 AM Rating: Decent
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# Feb 02 2007 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
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They get into parties poorly equiped and are immensely slow with the tp gain. Get it through your heads, DD's are there to compliment one another, not to compete. Its nice if you want to know which can do the best dmg but if you go about it bashing other jobs then you're just feeding your own ego through a **** game.


lol, have you ever been in a WAR X4 party where they all try to outparse each other... there is no complimenting each other, its who can increase their e-peen+10 during the EXP session :P

lol, that jumped out at me, just had to.
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# Jan 17 2007 at 1:56 PM Rating: Default
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WARNING: THE FOLLOWING IS A RANT FROM AN ANGRY BLUE MAGE

seriously, why doesn't SE let us use any of the good swords? We're falchion and scimitar users, and they don't let us use ridill or seiryu's sword, which are the best from both classes of sword. What's goin on here, SE? Help us out a little on our melee abilities, they're a bit lacking at the moment.
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# Apr 22 2007 at 5:50 AM Rating: Decent
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hey atleast you get to use infrits sword, thats more then pld and rdm can use
Ninja's are pissing themsleves...
# Nov 26 2006 at 7:45 AM Rating: Decent
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If i was a WAR/NIN with Ridill and Joyuse, Utuesemi would last for about a sec. on the mob, letting the DD to use a WS and end <t>'s pathetic life U.U

This is great for fighting the hume Ark Angel, **** YOU WON'T NEED A MNK I YOUR PARTY FOR A LOOOONG TIME WITH JOYUSE AND RIDILL!
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# Oct 30 2006 at 1:36 AM Rating: Default
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Please delete this entire thread, there is nothing in here worth reading about this sword. i spent 30 minutes reading all of the posts there is nothing but job forum type of **** in here , ur all useless.
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# Oct 21 2006 at 4:23 PM Rating: Decent
there's a lot of silly people in here... this is supposed to be about ridill... which i'm almost sure i'll never possess, as most of you never will either. stop bickering about jobs. go look for a fight in "JOB PWNAGE" forums already.
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# Aug 24 2006 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Faf, will soon become my **** till this sword drops off his dead carcase. Fafnir bewarned, your days are numbered.
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# Jul 17 2006 at 11:45 PM Rating: Decent
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can any of you stop talkin about the sword and say how dmn i get it?
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# Aug 08 2006 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
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you will never have this, its like a 5% drop
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# Jul 18 2006 at 12:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Dude, look just above your post, it says it's dropped by Fafnir. Don't hold your breath though, I mean, no offence, but if you don't no where it comes from then you won't be getting one for a long time. Even myself, a MNK, knows the rarity of this item and the fierce competition for who gets the drop on the rare occurance you find it in the treasure pool. Well, good luck.
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# Jun 01 2006 at 12:48 AM Rating: Decent
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I was going over the weapons list, and realized just how overpowered this weapon is! So what kind of damage increase would this do for a WAR? 30%+ maybe? Something huge like that I would bet considering probably a doubled rate of WS's or so. You would think it would have signifigantly lower damag since it hits 2-3 damage (like kraken's club, and mercurial weapons) but it's 40 dmg is on par with other swords of equal level! SE usually balances everything out nicely, but I think Ridill is an exception.

Does it outparse relic weapons? Even with the massive crit damage capabilities of things like excalibur and guttler, I still think this would do better or at least on paper it sure looks that way (40 x 2-3 vs 50-55) O.O;

As you can tell i'm really jealous of you war/nin's that get this overpowered weapon, me being a mnk. I hear that nothing can beat a haste built ridill war's damage; i'd like to see one in action some day. Closest thing mnk gets to something like this would be faith baghnakhs, which are actually balanced - having a much lower base damage, only attacking up to 2x, and costing a crapload of virtue stones.

...Nerf Ridill! /flee
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overpowered!
# Nov 19 2006 at 8:13 PM Rating: Decent
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As you can tell i'm really jealous of you war/nin's that get this overpowered weapon, me being a mnk. I hear that nothing can beat a haste built ridill war's damage; i'd like to see one in action some day. Closest thing mnk gets to something like this would be faith baghnakhs, which are actually balanced - having a much lower base damage, only attacking up to 2x, and costing a crapload of virtue stones.


Lol did i just hear that coming from a Mnk? lol
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# Jul 21 2006 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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I can say Ridill > Kikou for sure.
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# May 12 2006 at 7:20 PM Rating: Default
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anyone know if blu can use this sword?
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# Jun 28 2006 at 11:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Nope, BLU can't use this. Least not right now.
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# May 08 2006 at 10:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow this thing is amazing, in the right hands >.>
I saw a BST with NIN sub (odd) using this and switching between Kclub and this.....anyway to whoever said that DRK doesn't gain TP fast, after 4 hits with a scythe my friends can usually get off a Guillotine.
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# Jun 04 2006 at 9:55 PM Rating: Decent
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whoever said that DRK doesn't gain TP fast, after 4 hits with a scythe my friends can usually get off a Guillotine.


that would mean he gets 25 TP a hit. which even for samurai with all their store TP gear is impossible. unless you meant while using a ridill. in that case ur still an idiot because you cant dual wield a ridill and a scythe (2 handed weapon) and if you meant that they used ridill for TP gain then switched to scythe for WS your still an idiot because you lose TP switching weapons




Edited, Jul 20th 2006 at 11:43pm EDT by SynergyFFXI
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Actually, he'd only have to get about 19% TP per hit, since his previous Guillotine would give him a full hit's worth of TP and 1% for each of the 3 addition hits in the WS (if they all connect). But yeah, even that amount of TP is probably impossible for a DRK (and probably a SAM too). 500 delay only gives about 13% TP, so with such a high delay weapon as a scythe you'd probably need more store TP gear than there is available in the game to get 19%. There's always the chance of double attacking, though.
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# Mar 10 2007 at 10:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually using a Death Scythe on a regular I get 14-15tp a smack, my best friend and roomate being said Sam with full Store TP build gets 20-21 a smack...obviously pwning me in dmg but are u figuring in said drk might actually have the spell Absorb TP and use it. On a side note, since this friggin forum is about Ridill, I can confirm Ridill + Joytoy pwns mnks, my other roomate has said combo... /cry why do I have to have the **** gear of the house?
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# Apr 23 2006 at 10:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Have people actually seen this happen, or is it just speculation? I was under the impression that there was a cap of 8 hits per round. I know for sure there is such a restriction on weapon skills, but I haven't heard people talk about normal attacks as much.
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# May 13 2006 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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There was a video of a thf dualing ridill and k.club and getting off 15 hits in one round. 3 from ridill + 2 for triple attack + 8 with club + 2 from triple.
OMG
# Mar 20 2006 at 7:32 PM Rating: Default
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omg this sword owns so bad. i can gain so much tp so fast wen i do tp burn pts and i use drk/nin. this is also very good for ballista, the dmg on it is very very high for a multihit weapon and i deal much more dmg then i would normally do with a normal axe plus the faster tp gain which results in chaos [which is good for me :P]

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OMG
# Mar 20 2006 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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wtf, triple post, my bad

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OMG
# Mar 20 2006 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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oops double post >.<

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bst cant use sword.. i didnt think
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wtf? bst can use this?
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RE: bst cant use sword.. i didnt think
# Apr 02 2006 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent
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They can, I have seen a BST in Rabao with this and a Kraken.
RE: bst cant use sword.. i didnt think
# Apr 17 2006 at 10:39 PM Rating: Decent
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lol that must have been funny to see him fight
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wats drop rate on this beast of a sword?
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# Apr 01 2006 at 1:49 AM Rating: Decent
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WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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# Feb 07 2006 at 8:08 PM Rating: Decent
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I was heading out to do CN escort quest with my 2 buddies. As we are getting on airship to Bastok we see an ex-LS member, and ask her if she wants to join and she does. Meanwhile my drk buddy DC's and isn't seen again. Well when we get to CN we are killing everything super fast, this is with 2 thfs and a RNG, I noticed the rng (person at airship) was hitting insane amounts of time. I check her and she is using Ridill and Kclub. It was insane she could slugshot like every 10 seconds... I was like :O
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OMG i saw a video somewhere with a war/nin or drk/nin (not sure) using ridill/kclub, and he pwned the sh*t outa some guy in ballista, all u saw was him swinging at him, it was ridiculous. plus the tp gain would be amazing, if this hits 3 times then the kclub hits 8 times that is like 55% tp up right there, that is phucking amazing! u could use savage blade soooooo much. if i ever got the chance i would definitely try to get these two.


hehe first gotta get 70 though.
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# Feb 22 2006 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
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And get the most expensive buyable item in the game. And then win the lot on this sword, which isnt a very common drop. Yea other than that the big problem is getting to 70.
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if i ever got the chance i would definitely try to get these two.


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And get the most expensive buyable item in the game. And then win the lot on this sword, which isnt a very common drop. Yea other than that the big problem is getting to 70.


wow, i know u were trying to make me look like an idiot there, but look at my quote real quick and look what i highlighted, i said if i ever got to try and get this i would.whos the idiot now. one can always dream, but there are also ppl who go for their dreams and succeed in them, which i intend to do.


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nice come back lol :P
#Pulse, Posted: Jan 20 2006 at 10:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Warriors own with this... flat out. You can offhand in a WAR burn PT and tear things apart. I mean with one axe swing and up to 3 sword swinds your TP goes up by alot... and quickly!
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My eyes bled and then exploded trying to read that. >:(
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#jihadJordan, Posted: Jan 01 2006 at 1:20 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lvl 71 thf on alexander, was in dioambja dsfhskdfj- gheslba, u know the thing im talking abt, im not even gonna try to spell it. anyway, i was owning alot of ppl cuz they couldnt hit me =D i totally maxed out my evasion equip it, was pretty amazing to own lvl 75 drks and wars as a lvl 71 thf lol, my LS now offically lives in fear of my soloing abilites. lol there was one drk who rushed me when i had like 100 HP left, so i just spammed sleep bolts at him till he died lmao, **** bolts **** ppl off too. anyway, i was doing great, the only thing that gave me any problem were the WARs and thier **** Rampage. but since ppl couldnt hit me, TP gain was alot slower than my Dancing edge. all was gonig well until a War shows up with a juggernaut subbing this lol, everyone told him to take me one-on-one and he was HARD. it attacks 3 times so dam often, and his acc. was amazing so everytime his axe would swing, either miss or take one shadow, then this thing comes around and takes 2-3 shadows and then axe comes back around >.< owieee.
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RE: damn him
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hahaha, holey muther of jeebster! This guy can't type, give him a job!

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# Dec 24 2005 at 7:40 AM Rating: Default
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These l337 drk post are really annoying. I come on to read about this sword and all I get is this job bashing and l337 drk's preaching. Yeah drk's are great but how often do you see a great drk or party with one? Most of them read these posts and think its justified that they are the best DD jobs in the game. They get into parties poorly equiped and are immensely slow with the tp gain. Get it through your heads, DD's are there to compliment one another, not to compete. Its nice if you want to know which can do the best dmg but if you go about it bashing other jobs then you're just feeding your own ego through a **** game. Now lets get back on topic and talk about the Radill. Nice link to the Norse mythology info ^^.
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# Dec 24 2005 at 9:50 AM Rating: Default
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These l337 drk post are really annoying. I come on to read about this sword and all I get is this job bashing and l337 drk's preaching. Yeah drk's are great but how often do you see a great drk or party with one? Most of them read these posts and think its justified that they are the best DD jobs in the game. They get into parties poorly equiped and are immensely slow with the tp gain. Get it through your heads, DD's are there to compliment one another, not to compete. Its nice if you want to know which can do the best dmg but if you go about it bashing other jobs then you're just feeding your own ego through a **** game. Now lets get back on topic and talk about the Radill. Nice link to the Norse mythology info ^^.


well said. Yes the ridill is a nice sword, of course having to kill Fafnir might be a problem, but not those who know what there doing.
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# Nov 11 2005 at 3:05 AM Rating: Default
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How long is it gonna take for allakhazam to fix the info on this? "Occassionally attacks twice" is wrong as the picture clearly stats. <_<;
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Yeah, why should they spend their time adding hundreds of items a week when they *could* be fixing typos on a page where the correct information is clearly displayed anyway?
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# Oct 27 2005 at 1:53 PM Rating: Excellent
Interesting stuff. http://www.timelessmyths.com/norse/objects.html
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# Oct 28 2005 at 8:44 AM Rating: Decent
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# Oct 18 2005 at 1:49 PM Rating: Default
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68 thf, almost there, now just to get in on the big game hunts and win a lot, my understanding is War and Thf have first go's in most groups on this super weapon, primarily for the double and triple attacks on the jobs respectivly to couple with the 2-3 attacks of the sword. That could mean the hope of idk ~12 attacks a round if all fire at the same time. Now if I can just get my hands on a Kraken (j/k but i have capped club just in case ^^)....

PS Drks do nice damage on the WS as well as RNG WAR and SAM, but the whole thing is time, how long does it take you to build TP. If you can SC 2x in a xp pt/mob for 600-1000 + SC 100-1000 vs 1x for 1400dmg + SC 300-600 it all equals out about the same.
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# Oct 17 2005 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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lol first off i think most people forgot that this post was for Ridill and not job comparisons. i think it would be a great sword for wars as well even more so with some merits. It has decent dmg and with hitting 2 to 3 times allows you to build your tp much quicker to slap em with rampage that more often. the only other job i can really see putting this to good use in exp pts is thf considering rngs use +rng acc drks Scythe or GS sams GK and bsts solo with axes. its a fun sword for anyone that can use it to have but for actual use only i think only wars and thfs could fully tap its potential.

as for comparing DD capabilities for all you drks braggin about your ws hitting so high just think of a war using SATA Steel Cyclone can outdo anything you got. ^^

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RE: ridill
# Mar 06 2006 at 3:54 PM Rating: Default
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as for comparing DD capabilities for all you drks braggin about your ws hitting so high just think of a war using SATA Steel Cyclone can outdo anything you got. ^^


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lol first off i think most people forgot that this post was for Ridill and not job comparisons.


wat a jackass
RE: ridill
# Apr 02 2006 at 6:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Steel Cyclone is VIT50% STR50% and has a large modifer at 300%.
Sprial of **** is INT50% STR50% has has the same modifer at 300%.
DRK with Souleater, and WAR with Zerk.
Hmm, I'm sorry, I argee this guy is an idoit, those 2 wapon skills can both be 2K+ neither is better.
RE: ridill
# Oct 18 2006 at 5:06 AM Rating: Decent
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DRK with Souleater, and WAR with Zerk.
Hmm, I'm sorry, I argee this guy is an idoit, those 2 wapon skills can both be 2K+ neither is better.


You forgot to add Warcry and Warriors Charge. Which w/ Warriors Charge you might as well double the damage from SATA Steel Cyclone.
nice sword
# Oct 10 2005 at 5:04 AM Rating: Decent
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But why can't Plds equip it..../fume
Pld we never get anything good.... /cry

What a waste of a good weapond all the jobs that can equip. It wouldn't be there first choice as far as weaponds go, and thats my option... Meaning if, I was a War, Drk, Sam, Thf, Bst or Rng I wouldn't be using a sword, because you have A+ skill using other weaponds (axes, daggers, great katanas great swords, and scythes)....lol Plds and Rdms are the only jobs that have A+ skill using swords and we can't even equip it....
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RE: nice sword
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PLD's can't equip this because its a falchion/scimitar type sword.
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RE: nice sword
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Plds and Rdms are the only jobs that have A+ skill using swords and we can't even equip it....


rdm have A+ sword? since when?

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RE: nice sword
# Oct 16 2005 at 8:03 PM Rating: Default
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yeah good call on that one. rdm would own with this sword. maybe ridill + joyuce (sp), but i heard the "occasionally attacks extra times" doesn't work in off-hand. if it did though, then that would rock
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RE: nice sword
# Nov 26 2005 at 4:06 AM Rating: Decent
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It does too, that's why so many warriors look forward to eventually having a ridill/joyeuese{sp?} combo. And why redmages sometimes offhand kraken club while farming. Just to clear that up.
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what happened to this thread
# Sep 06 2005 at 2:19 PM Rating: Good
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correct me if im wrong, but this thread is supposed to be about the ridill sword, not about which jobs are better DD than others. its like most people forgot what page they were on when they posted. now as for the sword, i would like to get this sword someday, but im only level 38 so its a long way off. im a war and both my subs are a little under level, however ive been playing for a year and a half, and spent a considerable (most of that) amout of time farming to make sure i have the best equipment i can get, and i do a pretty good job of being a tank and a DD at the same time, this may change at later levels, but only time will tell. i want this sword not for the power of the hits, but for the simple fact that it helps build TP alot faster without doing too little damage, and WS will do quite abit of damage, and the amount of hits and WS will also help hold hate leading to a better tank. wars arent ment to be either DD or Tank in my opinion, they were ment to be the even balance of the two, again this may change at higher levels, but this is my observations so far. i may get rated down for this post by all the people in love with their own character type, but thats ok with me, it just goes to prove how single minded some people can become.

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Here is the simple fact about every DD in a party if there wasnt another job there to back them up make a distraction things of that sort they wouldnt have a chance to do damage they'd just die, so to say that one job is better than another is just stupid. Like lets take a blm yeah they can spam there spells and sleep the mob but that takes forever and the other party members wouldnt be able to attack because if they did the mob would just wake up run over to the blm and kill him/her hella fast. So stop saying one job is better than another in DD because its just stupid if you dont have someone there to make this possible you are as good as dead.
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# Aug 07 2005 at 10:52 AM Rating: Default
These posts are so funny mostly everyones opinion is biased by the job they are.

And from what i have seen Monks Darks and Rangers all seem to deal about the same dmg per fight just in different ways. (Monk and Dark may be just a tiny bit ahead of rng in dmg/fight). But this is not to say that the other DD jobs suck... i have just not seen them in exp parties very often at higher lvls.
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# Jul 07 2005 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
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DOT
# Jun 19 2005 at 2:58 PM Rating: Default
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Ranger is not DOT.
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lol burned
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RE: DOT
# Jun 25 2005 at 2:24 AM Rating: Default
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All jobs are "DOT", even BLM. -_- It's damage, and in a certain period of time. Actually, if we want to get technical, none of them are. Only spells like Bio II and Poison are DOT. I have 95% of the gear the guy a few posts below posted about and I do indeed put any RNG to shame in a Lv.75 EXP party, but that's because they are forced to sub NIN, while I have the option of subbing WAR. A RNG/WAR would do just as good as me, or perhaps cream me in damage. Either way, somehow I don't think everyone would agree that popping 700 damage in one round of fists (which is all instant damage, even if it looks like the fists take 4-5 seconds to go off) is "DOT". Usually around 250 damage per attack round without a Triple Attack from my Indra Katars. If I used Destroyers for the critical hits, I'd be a machine. =P
DRK BLM RNG... blah blah blah
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I heavily agree SAM DRK WAR RNG BLM THF all do great dmg. But over time the run outa steam. Guys, ur missing the real job that does most damage given time. MNK is the DoT of the game. Sure all the other jobs have MP or ability's to max out damage every other fight. But a well equiped MNK can put any one of these to shame at 75. Given Black Belt, Destroyers, Kirins Osode, Optical Hat, Shura Haidate or Byakkos Haidate, Spectacles, Foragers Mantle, Dune Boots, Atk earings, Kotes or Melee Gloves, and STR rings, a MNK can out WS and out DoT any job in the game.
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RE: DRK BLM RNG... blah blah blah
# Jun 19 2005 at 8:59 AM Rating: Default
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OMG...what the **** are u all talking about? DRK, MNK, better DoT than RNG??? UM...NO!!! RNG is best DoT in the game, if we talking about conventional jobs...I have heard that NIN/BLM and NIN/RNG can do some massive DoT. But for as far as "normal damage dealing jobs" RNG is best DoT. MNK would probably be a close second, if they are insanely pimped out.
RE: DRK BLM RNG... blah blah blah
# Aug 20 2005 at 2:38 PM Rating: Default
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I'd just like to say that you are wrong... How often do you see a RNG do 1.4k DMG to a TW monster in 18secounds? Not very often....But BLM can do that...SO BLM is a better DoT...Enough said.
RE: DRK BLM RNG... blah blah blah
# Jun 19 2005 at 9:04 AM Rating: Default
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Sorry, forgot to add it matters on what type of mobs u talking about. MNK best dmg on bones, hands down. A good drk MAY!!! be able to keep up with rng on mobs with high def, like crabs. But rng will do higher DoT on most mobs.
RE: DRK BLM RNG... blah blah blah
# Jul 18 2005 at 1:58 AM Rating: Default
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have u considered the delay on a mnks weapon, to the delay of a rng's. Rng's may look like they lay out a big number, but look at its delay compare to a mnks. a mnks gunna spam hella fists inbetween for what a rng will in one gun shot, not to mention kick attacks and double attack. Parse the two next to eachother, u'll see.
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RE: DRK BLM RNG... blah blah blah
# Aug 22 2005 at 4:20 PM Rating: Decent
if you compare the delay of mnks and rngs its not that much greater if a rng uses a Ebow and Demon Arrows. With knuckles and base HTH delay a mnk's delay is about 450+ where a rng's delay is 580, and in xp pts i (a rng) deal the about 5-10 dmg on average more than a mnk's two hits and about 20-30 more when i berserk and 100 more on weapsonkills without berserk and 200-300 more with. So mnks delays arent much greater that a well equiped rng and a rng's dmg is much greater per hit and on weaponskills.
RE: DRK BLM RNG... blah blah blah
# Jun 18 2005 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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Using equipment that would take a year to amass as an argument that a job is thereby the best DD, isn't the best argument. This is because you are far from likely to find any MNK with that equip, and it leaves room to say "all MNK who don't have this equip are bad." Franky ANY melee job with that calibur of equipment will incredible.
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RE: DRK BLM RNG... blah blah blah
# Feb 02 2006 at 3:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Um.. i have black belt/byakkos haidtate for haste+17% i outdamge rng,s easily.. lol and drk's /laugh they hit way too slow...
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RE: DRK BLM RNG... blah blah blah
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RE: DRK BLM RNG... blah blah blah
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lol i disagree on that one , Monks couldnt out WS a Drk or a RNG I think.

Chi Blast is another story tho :\. Chi blast is Fecking awsome.
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RE: DRK BLM RNG... blah blah blah
# Aug 22 2005 at 4:23 PM Rating: Decent
Rangers still have Barage ^^. chi blast feels like a little prick to a mob when compared to a rangers barrage.
RE: DRK BLM RNG... blah blah blah
# Aug 22 2005 at 4:23 PM Rating: Default
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