This is what my results have been and think I got fire ores down to a predictable state now. I used Porcilen pots. I always used the full set of mining/gardening/harvesting gear. I always checked my plants on watersday, never ever once did I check on firesday (every plant I checked on thier day never once gave me an ore.) I feed my plants fire crystals both times. At harvest time, I waited till new moon 0% or as close as possible to it on firesday. I waited all day on firesday not entering it all day till time was 12:01 game time, and then enterd, and checked and harvested my plants all right in a row. 66% fireores and 33% cinnimon. So far it isnt huge cash, 130k an ore now on my server but something none the less. I posted this here because I see alot of misleading info on this subject. I just dont really care if people know this, I can make 250k in a day easy with my two accounts and crafting. But have at it, hope this helps someone.
lol if moggle says they are ready to be picked, just harvest em! I think you would get a better harvest result if you harvest during full moon. About letting them die, DON'T DO THAT! You'll lose all!!
from 4 plants i harvested 41 sticks of cininnomin 3 ice clusters and 2 fire ores. Although it might be a bad harvest in most eyes, the 2 ores netted me 1.2 million gil combined on asura.
yes. fire ore do you need it 600k
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PATIENCE ALL U NEED IS PATIENCE!!! FFXI plants are like ral life plant if u gave them too much water they die if u gave them little water they dry. Same here u just need to be patience and ull get all u need.
Last Harvest :
5 Fire Ores 4 Wind Ores 4 Ice Ores 2 Dark Ores 6 Water Ores
Total profit = wtf i dont care im rich!!!!! around 10,000k
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ok i heard from a friend this is VERY profitable. but he wasnt sure if you wore the harvesting gear when you harvested if it would make a difference would it? also he said check like twice every real day once on firesday n feed it fire crystals. Also he said in his MH alone he has like 4 maple tabels with porc. pots goin all makin fire ore so do u really need mules for this?
Brass pots are associated with fire, are they not? Why use Porcelain pots (which are supposedly related to wind) over Brass? Specifically I am asking Ariah, if she is still involved with gardening. I would love to know what you think about this.
I have 10 plants on each of my 4 mules, so i pretty much harvest every week. The recipe mentioned is correct, i average 3/10 and my highest was just my last harvest of 6/10 dont ask because i dont know how that happened.
Because many people asked, I just added a fraps movie of the 22 maple tables I mentioned and how to cram then into your moghouse hahaha.
C ya
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Ariah blm gardening queen - Caitsith www.ariah.curiouss.com for a rl pic of me and some gardening secrets soon. 63 ores and counting. There is something called a glowrate that I will teach everyone sometime. After many tests and financial losses during tests, I figured out how to garden 3-5 ores out of 10 pots so far. Think glowrates, furniture, mooncycle, and examining actually has 2 results, not one.
Hey gardening friends. I hope all is well. I finally got around to creating macromedia flash files of the main glowrates that I have mentioned before. Feel free to check them out. I hate it when those guys on ebay/etc try to sell what should be free because it's just a game and it should be fun hehe.
Ariah blm gardening queen - Caitsith www.ariah.curiouss.com for a rl pic of me and some gardening secrets soon. 63 ores and counting. There is something called a glowrate that I will teach everyone sometime. After many tests and financial losses during tests, I figured out how to garden 3-5 ores out of 10 pots so far. Think glowrates, furniture, mooncycle, and examining actually has 2 results, not one.
Hey just wanted to let you guys know that you don't have to actually buy the Saplings that create the ores. I don't want to make my farming spot hot but I don't want to be a jerk either so here goes... If you farm Goobues (I don't know what else drops cuttings or what drops saplings) they drop Tree Cuttings. If you grow the cuttings and DON'T GIVE THEM ANY CRYSTALS but examine them every day then they (after asking for crystals twice) will harvest ->> 1-2 saplings. Admittedly this takes twice as long to get the ores but if you are patient, not in a hurry, & want 100% profit then you can do this w/o ever buying the saplings. Just uhhh.. if you see me farming Goobues on Alexander gimme some space ok >< hope this helps all.
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Hey just wanted to let you guys know that you don't have to actually buy the Saplings that create the ores. I don't want to make my farming spot hot but I don't want to be a jerk either so here goes... If you farm Goobues (I don't know what else drops cuttings or what drops saplings) they drop Tree Cuttings. If you grow the cuttings and DON'T GIVE THEM ANY CRYSTALS but check them everyday they harvest >> 1-2 saplings. They ask for crystals twice before harvest time. Takes twice as long & more patience but hey this way its 100% profit. Oh & if u see me farming goobues gimme some space >< hope this helps all.
Edited, Tue Feb 15 13:53:41 2005
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Damn. The only NM I killed was Jesus & all he dropped was Hate & Prejudice...
Here is a cut and paste of mine from another post:
Great discoveries guys. What Heziki has run into is an actual fire ore recipe that works at almost all times. What you will realize is that he only succeded (1 ore) because he harvested on the correct elemental day that accented the current level of fire strenth that he had created with that combination of crystals. It really does depend on what day he fed which crystal if you are going for more than 3 ores out of 10 pots. To break 3 the moon must be strong but it seems that a full moon doesn't always make it perfect.
here's a cool example:
p dark f1 f on f f2 f on f h on d fm 98% = 0-6 f ores
but p on dark f1 f on i f2 f on f h on d fm98% = 0 - 1 ores
but what makes sense from learning about the second experiment is that experiment 2 (which was actually an expirement of 70 pots) needed more f energy.
so: p on dark f1 f on i f2 f on f h on F any moon = 1-4 ores
This seems to be supported with each harvest. Lesson Learned: Don't accidentally feed on the wrong day. Another lesson learned (not to do with the above). Don't start a new growth period immediately after you harvest unless you aren't going for hq items like ores.
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Ariah blm gardening queen - Caitsith www.ariah.curiouss.com for a rl pic of me and some gardening secrets soon. 63 ores and counting. There is something called a glowrate that I will teach everyone sometime. After many tests and financial losses during tests, I figured out how to garden 3-5 ores out of 10 pots so far. Think glowrates, furniture, mooncycle, and examining actually has 2 results, not one.
Hey guys for some reason my highest yield from a previous harvest is consistently my lowest yield in the following harvest. This mimics real life as the soil needs some "downtime" (crop rotation) to gain its nutrients. This may also be a really stupid coincidence but it's happened on my highest yield mule every harvest so far. Highest = anything that yields 4 or more ores. The failure on this mule results sometimes in 0/10 pots with ores.
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Ariah blm gardening queen - Caitsith www.ariah.curiouss.com for a rl pic of me and some gardening secrets soon. 63 ores and counting. There is something called a glowrate that I will teach everyone sometime. After many tests and financial losses during tests, I figured out how to garden 3-5 ores out of 10 pots so far. Think glowrates, furniture, mooncycle, and examining actually has 2 results, not one.
My name's Ariah and I live in Vancouver, BC. Anyways I just wanted to tell you that there is a way to get more than 2 per harvest. Keep trying and look at a ffxi timer to try and time your harvest for a full moon.
Furniture is the key.
22 maple tables or go for oak if you have the money = +176 or +200 gardening enhancement. Always always time it for about 21 days and start earlier rather than later because your furniture is the buffer.
There are some secrets to do with something called "glowrates" that I will teach you guys sometime (after I quit the game for good). I also have a huge excel file of 40 of my most recent ore attempts.
yes it's a h on darksday for many ores.
Edited, Sun Dec 26 06:56:37 2004
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Ariah blm gardening queen - Caitsith www.ariah.curiouss.com for a rl pic of me and some gardening secrets soon. 63 ores and counting. There is something called a glowrate that I will teach everyone sometime. After many tests and financial losses during tests, I figured out how to garden 3-5 ores out of 10 pots so far. Think glowrates, furniture, mooncycle, and examining actually has 2 results, not one.
Hey all. Davidge here ( RDM53 ) Sylph sever. Here is my experience with the ore growing... I was told by a number of poeple that the base element for seeds is dark.... so with this in mind.... Planted 4 tree saplings on darksday Checked on them once a day ( elemental day does not matter.) First feeding time... skip it. Second feeding fed fire crystal on firesday Check everyday ( only once a RT day ) Havested on firesday...
Results from all 4 plants...
2 fire ore 12 mythril leaves 11 mythril leaves
Now I harvested all my stuff so no out of pocket gil expenses... total net profit of over 4000k !!!
Not too shabby if I do say so myself...
Good luck growing
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FFXI Sylph server RDM75 MNK75 BST68 BLM40 NIN36 SAM36 BRD26 BLU30 SMN20 DRK47 DNC40 WAR41 WHM37 *MAAT DOWN* 11/09/06 W00T!!!!! Crafting help Do you need it?? Give me a shout.. Most crafts at 60,and Alchemy @89
Hey all. Davidge here ( RDM53 ) Sylph sever. Here is my experience with the ore growing... I was told by a number of poeple that the base element for seeds is dark.... so with this in mind.... Planted 4 tree saplings on darksday Checked on them once a day ( elemental day does not matter.) First feeding time... skip it. Second feeding fed fire crystal on firesday Check everyday ( only once a RT day ) Havested on firesday...
Results from all 4 plants...
2 fire ore 12 mythril leaves 11 mythril leaves
Now I harvested all my stuff so out of gil expenses... total net profit of over 350k !!!
Not too shabby if I do say so myself...
Good luck growing
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This is to all those "idiots" who like to call EVERYONE else "idiots". Stop being selfish, the only reason why you give a rats arse about what's being said you have stated yourself and only proves to me and others more so that you do not deserve what you probably have.
People can share all the info they wish and it makes the world go round, unlike you monopolizing gooberz.
*Oh Noes! Stop the Sharing of OUR SEKRETZ!!! !1
Seriously, that is so self centered.
Well HERE IS MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE:
Planted: Tree Saplings Days: ANY! Crystals USED: Light / Fire Pots: Porcelain Harvest Day: ANY!
Yielded TWO Fire Ores in ONE Harvest, out of 10 Plants. It is profitable to a degree and does require a lot of time to do, but if you are serious about the results it will come.
#luthorus,
Posted:Nov 23 2004 at 6:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have 16 characters i harvest a dfferent kind of ore every 2 days, i would really appreciate it if people would stop giving out recipes for this, its ruining the prices on my server, and killing my profits.
I planted 8 saplings in brass pots on firesday and fed fire crystals on fireday Out of it i got 7 ice clusters,7 stacks of cinnimon and 2 fire ore. Not too bad.I figure i just doubled my money so i cant complain. unfortunatly the price of fire ore in Ifirit is only 100k but mabey it will eventually go up:)
I just made one of these, and honestly, I don't think I'll bother with it again.
I bought 4 tree saplings for 8k each, 4 pots for 1k each, and a stack of fire crystals for 4k. So the total cost wasn't too bad, only 40k. The problem is, I was doing this under the assumption that *all* of the saplings would give me an ore, so long as I did everything right.
Anyway, I made sure to plant them on Firesday, feed them both crystals on Firesday, examine them every (earth) day, and when the time came, harvest them on Firesday. In the end, one of the plants gave me a Fire Ore, and the other three all gave me cinnamon. =/
Now, the one Fire Ore *would* have been nice, but during the time I was growing mine, some @#%^ decided to make a freaking TON of them and sell them all at 100k so he'd make fast money (which is stupid, because when I was checking the prices and sell rates of all the elemental ores, Fire Ore was going for 160k and selling constantly -- both of us could have made more money if he hadn't been so impatient).
So I sold my precious Fire Ore for 100k, netting me about 60k in profit. Now while 60k is nice in general, it's totally not worth 22 days of gardening. I could farm that much in a day if I tried, or just do one successful BCNM. Also, I noticed that by keeping my plants healthy, my normal money-making was severely hindered. I'd have to warp back to town from my farming spots just to check my plants each day. This sucks because often during the week when I don't have much time to play, I'll just stay in a farming area and log in to farm a bit, and then log out and repeat the next day. Couldn't do that with these damn plants to take care of. So if you factor in my opportunity cost, my net profit was a lot lower, perhaps even negative.
Oh well, maybe this is a good idea if you have a hard time making money otherwise. I suppose this could be good for low level characters, but even then, you'd be risking your initial investment (thinking back to when I was level 20, I would *not* want to put 40k on the line). I'm not trying to discourage people from growing elemental ore, I'm just saying that it's really not this amazing way of getting tons of easy money that some people make it out to be.
Are you positive about this recipe It looks right except you plant feed and harvest on Firesday for fire ore and same for every othere elemental ore I owen more gil then you can imagin I do this every 3 weeks thats about the time for the plant to finish growing! Cerberus Rocks! I wage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Holywar<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
I just harvested my tree saplings today following this guide perfectly. Here's what I spent doing this: 1 stack of tree saplings: -120,000 Gil 10 Porcelain Flowerpots: 10 X 6000 = -60,000 Gil 4 Tables: -2,000 Gil Total Spent Trying to Grow Fire Ores: 182,000 Gil What I got: many many stacks of cinnamon, all of which I will NPC (not sure how many stacks exactly since I was kicked off shortly after harvesting due to scheduled maintenance) 6 ice clusters = crap 1 fire ore = 200,000 Gil Net cash inflow: 18,000 Gil or so Time Spent trying this: 1 month of checking plants twice a day (once in morning, once at night) To me, this isn't really worth it, but I'm thinking maybe I just got the shaft on one single ore from harvesting...but I'll leave my results with you to decide if it's worth it or not...personally I'd rather go back and hunt the Valkurm Emperor
My hubby and I have been growing, or attempting to grow, ores for about 3 months now. We both have multiple pots and follow the recipe as outlined in the gardening guide at
. So far we have each had 4 harvests. From each harvest we both have only ever gotten ONE elemental ore. The other plants produce other harvests, sometimes worth it, sometimes not (one plant produced 49 clumps of Windurstian Tea Leaves during my last harvest), which can be frustrating for the poor soul who spent their last few gil to buy the supplies to attempt to grow just a single plant.
I have a sneaking suspiscion that each character can only grow one elemental ore at a time. If anyone has had success at growing more than one at a time on the same character, please dispel this idea in my head. Due to my personal experience I now only plant 2 saplings at a time so I at least have a 50/50 chance of growing an ore.
And just MHO... there is NO SUCH THING AS EASY GIL! You need a variety of methods (farming, gardening, crafting, etc.) to get rich in this game...
Hello Everyone, here's my input on growing elemental ore. I received 3 dark ore (from 10 plants) from 1 of my players that I grow with. Planted, fed(x2) & harvested all on Darksday. Grow dates: 25 Oct-14 Nov. 2 ore from Porc pots, 1 from a brass. Hope it helps! --Svt--Sylph--
If you think that spreading trade secrets that cause prices to fall is a bad thing, you are either a selfish crybaby, you don't understand basic economics, or both. With more elemental ore on the market, prices will indeed be lower, but also the super items created from them will be more plentiful and cheaper. The crafters that consume the ore will still spend the same amount of money, either on more ore, or on other things, so people raising money other ways will get a raise. The bottom line is that there will be more of everything to go around. Granted, some people will not have their monopolies anymore, but I doubt the majority of players care about the plight of a few wealthy players that have to work to earn their Gil now.
#mezzoforte,
Posted:Jan 21 2005 at 8:32 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) LMAO! That is a cute naive thought. I appreciate you lowering the price of the elemental ore. Now my goldsmithing beads bring me more profits that I assure you will not be passed on to my customers.
Agreed. I started producing ores recently (fire on ramuh sell for 190K), so I wasnt making this stuff when ores sold for well over 400K. I can imagine the feeling of making so much gil so fast. But it is not fair to "hide" receipes because you want to hold a monopoly over prices. In the long run, you will be keeping more of your money, because when you get to higher lvls, you made need a staff that utilizes the ingredients you made. So if the ingredients are more expensive, so are the items. I still get giddy making 50K of an ice ore. I have several mules making this stuff, and the profits are rolling in. So quit your crying, no matter how hard you tried to keep it secret, ppl will talk.
Ok The Elemental ores are all obtainable through 3 ways. FIRST: is BCNM 60. Simply put, win the battle and you may get one.
The next 2 are much better methods for the poor player, however.
SECOND: CHOCOBO DIGGING
You have to get your chocobo digging skil;l up to a considferable level to do this (yes chocobo digging is like a guild with 10 skill lvls) visit www.cannotlinkto/ffxi and click the chocobo digging section. It lists what can be dug there.
LAST and BEST BY FAR is <b> GARDENING </b> the recipie is as follows.
You will need a PORCELIN POT + TREE SAPLING (note this is NOT cutting but sapling). Simply plant the seed in the porcelin pot in the mog house (preferably on dark day since that is the seeds element) and then add 2 crystals of the desired elementak ore color (IE: fire crystals for fire ore and wind crystals for wind ore) on the day of the crystal element. Then harvest on the elemental day of the ore you are going for and you will hopefully have your elemental ore. Btw these ALL sell for over 200K (so much for Leaping Lizzy hunting).
The downside of this method is as folows. You are not guarenteed an ore EVERY time. There IS a chance of getting lesser results (as with al;l gardening). And the biggie is that it takes approximately a REAL LIFE MONTH to grow these so don't do only one. Have a few going at once so that if one pot fails maybe another will succeed.
I have PERSONALLY grown a water/fire/ice/wind/earth ore and have yet to attempt the light/dark/lightning
so this DOES work. I now have 8 million gil from this with 6 mules over the past 3 months so i don't need the secret anymore. Plainly put it WORKS...albeit a little slow and not 100%. DO IT it is your road to riches :).
tree sappling + fire crystal and..luck same as other kind of special ore, the crystal you feed determines what kind of ore you get I think its already public a few months ago, not secret anymore but due to no detail information about how to plant it and need very LONG time from seed to harvest.. So the price still high, although its dropping Compare to it, its more difficult to have high enough skill to make beads and staffs
I don't mean to be disrespectful but why post a reply saying these can be grown with proper ingredients when you didn't even give out what proper ingredients and how to........
??? Don't ya think thats a little vague???
Edited, Sat May 22 07:23:09 2004
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