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#HadrielXIII, Posted: Jun 26 2007 at 9:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Day/Moon Phase: http://www.clanwind.com/ffxi/fishing/default.asp
Glowrate?
# Jun 05 2007 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
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I was wondering what you guys meant by glowrate and how you can time it w/ the full moon. I remember reading about it on the forum b4 but when i went back to reread it i couldn't find it. I'd really appreciate it if someone could clarify all of this for me. ^^
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help me out
# Dec 29 2005 at 3:36 AM Rating: Default
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Can you gimme a direct list of what im suposed to do, + when + where i should do it to make a maximum % of getting the elemental ore?! please help me out!

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# Aug 22 2005 at 11:07 PM Rating: Decent
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im very sry about the triple post im new to this and thought it did not go through
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# Aug 22 2005 at 11:06 PM Rating: Decent
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yes i woul just like to know y is it that that if all of a sudden when ppl sell ores for cheap (like 100k below ah prices) and everyone knows it was mostlikly a gil seller y dont everyone just keep putting them in for alot higher even though prices went down i would think that most ppl would realize that it was just some guy that wanted a quick buck and in that case shold be expecting to pay full price again
if u have any coments on this lz respond and i am sry if any of this was cunfusing i have been up for aboout 40 hrs strait^^
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# Aug 22 2005 at 11:05 PM Rating: Decent
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yes i woul just like to know y is it that that if all of a sudden when ppl sell ores for cheap (like 100k below ah prices) and everyone knows it was mostlikly a gil seller y dont everyone just keep putting them in for alot higher even though prices went down i would think that most ppl would realize that it was just some guy that wanted a quick buck and in that case shold be expecting to pay full price again
if u have any coments on this lz respond and i am sry if any of this was cunfusing i have been up for aboout 40 hrs strait^^
hi this is my first message on this website
# Aug 22 2005 at 11:05 PM Rating: Decent
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yes i woul just like to know y is it that that if all of a sudden when ppl sell ores for cheap (like 100k below ah prices) and everyone knows it was mostlikly a gil seller y dont everyone just keep putting them in for alot higher even though prices went down i would think that most ppl would realize that it was just some guy that wanted a quick buck and in that case shold be expecting to pay full price again
if u have any coments on this lz respond and i am sry if any of this was cunfusing i have been up for aboout 40 hrs strait^^
mogenhancement gardening
# Jan 22 2005 at 1:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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The purpose that mogenhancement gardening is used for is: to help you time a full moon correctly while extending the optimal glowrate phase.

22 maple tables will give you 176 gardening enhancement which will let you time it perfectly. Do a search for the ffxi v2 timer to time your growth phase for about 20.5 days before the beginning of a full moon or 21.5 days before your harvesting element day full moon. ie: darksday

This is only relevant if you are going for a 3-6 ore harvest. If you know you messed something up earlier you should focus on building up or down the elemental strength of the sapling through feeding crystals on the same or weak day depending if you need to build up or down. Another main thing i did was wait for the optimal glowrate if i messed up the planting or feeding and you can almost always get an ore as long as you fed the correct crystals.
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mogenhancement gardening
# Aug 17 2006 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
Mogenhancement Gardening does not stack, only the basic elemental Mogenhancements stack, so there is no thing as a 176 Mogenhancment Gardening... just so you know
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mogenhancement gardening
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Moh enhancement gardening does not stack eh? well, you try growing ore's with just a workbench (no tables) & let us know how you go with your full moon harvests.
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mogenhancement gardening
# Nov 28 2007 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Please tell me where in game or here where you come up with 176 gardening moghancement I have 22 maple tables with 1 earth element each & was able to fit 6 yellow jars on the free spaces on the floor with 2 earth elemental each & the 10 ceramic pots for 1 each, that's 44 earth element total & if it's the number of earth elements in the house that gives the moghancement would'nt it skyrocket if I fill the floor with yellow jars with 2 earth each & just 1 maple table to set the ceramic jars on giving 647 earth elemenet & if your moghancement was based on the amount of earth that would give you well over 2,500 gardening moghancement unless there is a cap which I would,nt know where to find that information either. So please someone tell me where to find information on mog house stats like this cause all I get is overwhelming earth energy which I had at 12 or so tables.
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RE: mogenhancement gardening
# Jan 24 2005 at 9:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Good job Dara
# Jan 22 2005 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey Dara that was an amazing catch. I really wish you had caught the planting and feeding elemental days. You also caught the optimal glowrate accidentally which made the difference in your harvest.

I have verified that 15 days is possibly through other pots in a certain home city.


To the guy below going for wind ore. you should be on your way. Just check the glowrate on windsday when it's ready to harvest and if it's not optimal then wait until the following darksday unless you lose your full moon. Calculate it with +2% per day I think. Your glowrate should be good enough to grab you at least one wind ore.
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Heres how I was told to make Dark Ore
# Dec 07 2004 at 9:27 AM Rating: Decent
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A few days ago I was able to grow a dark ore with my mule Kirana on the Carbuncle Server. I checked the ah in Windurst and 1 had sold for 10K. I sent it to my main, Dara, and sold it at the Bastok ah for 100k. I was surprised.

But to the point...i used a brass pot, fed both crystals, and out of 2 pots got 1 dark ore. And it took only 2 weeks to grow, not 1-2 months. I didnt pay any attention to wether or not it was darks day or harvested on a full moon, and I still had a 50% success rate my first time out. Also, I have a work bench in my MH which gives the key item Moghancement: Gardening, which helps alot. Another thing that I didnt see mentioned...you need to check your plants EVERYDAY (realtime). The person who told me this recipe stressed to me that this was very important.

Hope this helps!

Edited, Fri Mar 25 20:12:04 2005
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RE: Heres how I was told to make Dark Ore
# Jan 19 2005 at 3:55 AM Rating: Decent
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are you sure it was 2 weeks? because that sounds a whole lot better then a month

i tried this 8 times with no luck ... and it takes so long too (note i didnt do that all at once)

i'm trying chocobo now to get me sum
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Problems with Dark Ore
# Nov 18 2004 at 7:15 PM Rating: Decent
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So I was trying to get Dark Ore and planted the saplings in a porcelain pot. I fed the saplings Dark Crystals on Darksday twice and waited to harvest them on Darksday. When I harvested I got 18 Rock Salts and 5 Persikos or something like an orange. : (

All that time into nothing. And I am thinking to myself... what did I do wrong? Then I realize that 1) I planted on lightsday, and 2) I did not harvest on a Full Moon. OUCH!!

I still have some saplings growing and hopefully I get the wind ore that I want. I did plant on Darksday and fed both wind crystals on windsday and am patiently awaiting the Windsday full moon to harvest them.

Does anyone know if I should harvest them as soon as the full moon day arrives, like at 0001 on windsday with a full moon or at night before the day ends?


Edited, Thu Nov 18 19:19:23 2004
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So I was trying to get Dark Ore and planted the saplings in a porcelain pot. I fed the saplings Dark Crystals on Darksday twice and waited to harvest them on Darksday. When I harvested I got 18 Rock Salts and 5 Persikos or something like an orange. : (

All that time into nothing. And I am thinking to myself... what did I do wrong? Then I realize that 1) I planted on lightsday, and 2) I did not harvest on a Full Moon. OUCH!!

I still have some saplings growing and hopefully I get the wind ore that I want. I did plant on Darksday and fed both wind crystals on windsday and am patiently awaiting the Windsday full moon to harvest them.

Does anyone know if I should harvest them as soon as the full moon day arrives, like at 0001 on windsday with a full moon or at night before the day ends?
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So I was trying to get Dark Ore and planted the saplings in a porcelain pot. I fed the saplings Dark Crystals on Darksday twice and waited to harvest them on Darksday. When I harvested I got 18 Rock Salts and 5 Persikos or something like an orange. : (

All that time into nothing. And I am thinking to myself... what did I do wrong? Then I realize that 1) I planted on lightsday, and 2) I did not harvest on a Full Moon. OUCH!!

I still have some saplings growing and hopefully I get the wind ore that I want. I did plant on Darksday and fed both wind crystals on windsday and am patiently awaiting the Windsday full moon to harvest them.

Does anyone know if I should harvest them as soon as the full moon day arrives, like at 0001 on windsday with a full moon or at night before the day ends?
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staves
# Nov 04 2004 at 11:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I saw dark staff go for 95k and i bought my own pluto's staff for 250k on Titan :) so yeah it has gone down a hell of a lot!
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# Mar 12 2006 at 8:51 PM Rating: Decent
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OMG dark staff on kajuta is abot 110k but pluto's staff is like 2.8 mil!
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gil sellers
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There is a BIG problem at this point on the server I am on. I was growing dark ore with a couple friends, and it was avaraging around 150-160k apiece. Not bad, and easy profit. Normally there awas 5-10 on sale at any one point.

All of a sudden, it jumped from 5-10 to 60 at once, and the idiot that grew THAT many also priced them all at 80-90K. It effectivly killed the entire market, you couldn't make profit on it.

Forget gil farmers, or bot campers, now they are taking high profit stuff like this and ruining it for a quick buck.
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Like He said this is not guarenteed....I have done it perfectly and looked at it multiple times a day...and came out with some leaves for my 13,000 gil sapling =P

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RE: Risky
# Jan 09 2005 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
Next time try looking at it only once every 24 hours. I hear that checking them too often can ruin a crop.
How to obtain this.
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Ok The Elemental ores are all obtainable through 3 ways. FIRST: is BCNM 60. Simply put, win the battle and you may get one.

The next 2 are much better methods for the poor player, however.

SECOND: CHOCOBO DIGGING

You have to get your chocobo digging skil;l up to a considferable level to do this (yes chocobo digging is like a guild with 10 skill lvls)
visit www.cannotlinkto/ffxi and click the chocobo digging section. It lists what can be dug there.

LAST and BEST BY FAR is <b> GARDENING </b>
the recipie is as follows.

You will need a PORCELIN POT + TREE SAPLING (note this is NOT cutting but sapling). Simply plant the seed in the porcelin pot in the mog house (preferably on dark day since that is the seeds element) and then add 2 crystals of the desired elementak ore color (IE: fire crystals for fire ore and wind crystals for wind ore) on the day of the crystal element. Then harvest on the elemental day of the ore you are going for and you will hopefully have your elemental ore. Btw these ALL sell for over 200K (so much for Leaping Lizzy hunting).

The downside of this method is as folows. You are not guarenteed an ore EVERY time. There IS a chance of getting lesser results (as with al;l gardening). And the biggie is that it takes approximately a REAL LIFE MONTH to grow these so don't do only one. Have a few going at once so that if one pot fails maybe another will succeed.

I have PERSONALLY grown a water/fire/ice/wind/earth ore and have yet to attempt the light/dark/lightning

so this DOES work. I now have 8 million gil from this with 6 mules over the past 3 months so i don't need the secret anymore. Plainly put it WORKS...albeit a little slow and not 100%. DO IT it is your road to riches :).
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# Jun 22 2005 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
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I looked and didn't see Dark Ore on the list to be dug anywhere. Any idea where it can be dug?
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#oujix, Posted: Jun 30 2004 at 6:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) thank you for telling everyone .... it has already went down in price by 150-200k on my server ..this ore will be worth nothing by time you are all done with growing u may as well stick to hunting nm's or farming..
RE: How to obtain this.
# Sep 13 2004 at 11:33 AM Rating: Default
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Do you cry, and blame everyone when u die in a party too?

This game has many interesting factors involved, one is change! Roll with it. If the price sux so bad, many people will abandon the ores at the AH, thus the price will rise again. Someone probably handed u the information; or did u experiment with countless recipes until u found it? I dont think so...

I guess by keeping the secret to yourself u feel powerful, this is a false sense of power within the virtual boundaries a digital world, take a step outside of FFXI into the real world every once in while, if u can handle it.
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#oujix, Posted: Jun 30 2004 at 6:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) thank you for telling everyone .... it has already went down in price by 150-200k on my server ..this ore will be worth nothing by time you are all done with growing u may as well stick to hunting nm's or farming..
RE: How to obtain this.
# Sep 01 2004 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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I am a level 74 Wood worker on Lakshmi server, I am interested in making light/dark/earth/etc. staffs and have been checking the prices on the materials needed to make them. Elemental ores alone cost almost as much as the staffs sell for, and that is prior to finding a high level goldsmith convert the ore into a bead, so that I can use it. There is no reason for me to even try to synthesize one of these staffs if I do not get the ore on my own. So for Oujix up there you need to consider the bigger picture and stop being so greedy. I appreciate when people post information that is useful to others, information such as methods of obtaining these ores.

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RE: How to obtain this.
# Aug 17 2004 at 12:52 PM Rating: Good
By all means, please do give away the secret and lower the price.

Those who take the time and space to grow these will still make decent money. Great money for the tiny effort, if not for the long time investment.

Those who bothered to work their goldsmithing up to a high enough level to make beads will increase their profit margin, and be able to competitively price their beads.

Those who put in the effort to get high in woodworking will then take these beads and make elemental staves, making more money because the materials were much cheaper, and selling at a lower price.

So whiners with no work ethic can get their Dark Staff relatively cheap.

A system like this takes slackers totally out of the loop, from the base materials to the end product. Everyone along the line takes a risk, and everyone eventually cuts a fat profit.
RE: How to obtain this.
# Aug 11 2004 at 3:01 PM Rating: Good
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What a ludicrous statement.

First - it is not a guarantee that you will grow one, even with his recipe. Second - Pikko's Pots has been up for a long time now, and this recipe is on it as well.

What makes this comment even more ridiculous is the fact that it takes 1-2 months of real world time to grow/harvest. Even if you had 10 pots going at the same time, all with the intent for them to grow the ore, you are still not going to get 10 ores in 1-2 months. You might get one. One ore introduced into the game every month or so will -not- reduce the price of them. Not by a long shot. If the price on your server is reduced, you can bet it is due to Gil Sellers working the BCNMs.

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# May 06 2004 at 11:55 PM Rating: Good
To make a Dark Bead you need:

Goldsmithing 87
Wind Crystal x1
Dark Ore x1

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To make Dark/Pluto Staff you need:

Wind Crystal x1
Dark Bead x1
Ebony Log x1
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can be obtained through gardening, but i heard from jpn friend takes around 1-2months. He told me the seeds in jpn and i looked it up the seeds cost alot of gil around 10k per one. and you feed it Dark Crystals.
#TaruPedro, Posted: Mar 28 2004 at 3:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I really doubt that you can grow these ores but if you can what crystal did you use and is there a specific day?
Mined?
# Mar 10 2004 at 1:21 AM Rating: Decent
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I believe that this also can be mined at Ifrit's Cauldren. However, I do not know this for a fact. I assume it is only used in very high level recipies.
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RE: Mined?
# Mar 24 2004 at 10:43 PM Rating: Decent
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You can grow these with special plantings (either Stems or Saplings; don't remember which).
RE: Mined?
# Mar 10 2004 at 2:06 PM Rating: Excellent
I don't believe that this can be mined in Ifrit's Cauldron. At least in all the mining that I have done, I have never seen it (nor have I talked to anyone who has seen it). That's not to say that it's impossible, but it does exist there, it is insanely rare.

igtenos is right -- Dark Ore is synthed in to Dark Beads, which are then synthed in to Dark Staves/Pluto Staves. Dark Staves are ~75 Woodworking. Not sure what level refining the ore in to the beads is, but I imagine that it is pretty similar in level.

By the way, the elemental staves are really nice for just about any class. Dark Staff is LV 51 and has MP Recovery +10, and +1 of just about every stat.
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RE: Mined?
# Mar 10 2004 at 9:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Not 100% positive. Dark Ore (like all the Ores) can be synthed into Dark Beads, which can in turn be synthed into the insanely expensive Dark Staff/Pluto Staff. Considering the ore is listed under Goldsmithing, I'd assume that you need a *very* high goldsmithing rating to synth the ore into beads and likely even more (and very likely a high Woodworking skill) to synth the staff itself. On Bismark, the ore sells for 600k and the line of elemental staffs are around 1m+ each.
RE: Mined?
# Jul 11 2004 at 3:06 PM Rating: Decent
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lol, a few months later, and the price of the Dark staff has gone down to a stable 350k!
Amazing what the economy does in a few months, no?
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RE: Mined?
# Aug 28 2004 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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you think that's insane? they are 170k now! and you can't even ake money off making the staffs through woodworking alone ore still cost 150k and beads 150-200k each no that is messed up economy!
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RE: Mined?
# Oct 29 2004 at 3:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Quetzalcoatal Dark Staff 100k, Ice staff 60k. I'm gonna buy both ^^
RE: Mined?
# Dec 14 2004 at 4:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Shiva server: Every staff has made it down into the 90's. Sadly enough, I didn't have the money to buy one, though. They range from 88 (the lowest I've ever seen) to about 150 (the average), but the +1 versions go for about 500, steadily. Kinda depressing for someone who just dropped 150k to get woodcrafting up to lv 28, lol. Btw, anybody have any good synths for fast/cheap leveling? ^_^
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RE: Mined?
# Jan 19 2005 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually Ice staff is now 15-20k
light is 220k
dark is 150-180k
earth/fire/wind/water/lightening are around 90k
RE: Mined?
# Jan 25 2005 at 2:20 PM Rating: Good
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WOW! Some servers have it MUCH better than others. . .

Seraph, as of today, has major issues with profitable synths, even in upper-level Woodworking. I originally started wood to fix Lu Shang's once I got it, and started breaking it. Then a buddy of mine got in Goldsmithing, and we learned of how we could team up to make Elem. Staves. Then I guess 500 people got to 70+ Woodworking, and made it extremely difficult to find the money in it.

As I type this, the ONLY profitable synth series, counting the Goldsmithing and Woodworking, of going from Elemental Ore to Staff, is Wind. All others are a loss.

Elemental Ore > Bead > Staff
(Note: N/A = no price history in Jeuno for this bead)

Fire: 300-350k > N/A > 175k
Ice: 135-150k > 150k > 90-100k
Wind: 260k > N/A > 500-600k
Earth: 310-350k > N/A > 300-320k
Lightning (Thunder): 400-450k > N/A > 200-240k
Water: 170k > 130k (1 ever) > 130-170k
Light: 250k > 220-250k (2 ever) > 180-200k
Dark: 160k > 180k > 150k

Talk about screwed up, huh?

Any chance SE might have a "switch-server" lottery sometime? </cry> I should've been a Goldsmith.

Demon Arrowheads: 60k/stack, with no breaks makes 4 stacks of Demon Arrows:
Demon Arrows: 10k/stack

Loss synth, without even adding cost of crystals, lumber, or fletchings. And that's where I'm at for skill-ups. -.-
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