The current(26/07/2008) "best GK" list for SAM is Amanomurakumo > Hagun = Futsuno Mitama(5-hit) = Soboro Sukehiro(situational) > Onimaru(latent:83dmg,+5acc,+18atk under 100%tp and during WS) > Ushikirimaru > Shinsoku
notes: 1)Even on WS, 18atk>2STR unless you're capping pDIF which is unlikely 2)If you're not WSing at or near 100% you're doing it wrong 3)While tping 3STR = ~1 base dmg = ~6-8atk (depends on how much atk you have) 4)On Y/G/K 1STR = ~1base dmg = ~6-8atk (depends on how much atk you have) 5) converting all additional factors to equivilant base dmg, while tping onimaru=85.5dmg+2.5%acc, ushikirimaru=82.6dmg, during WS onimaru=85.5dmg(acc generally capped), ushikirimaru=84dmg
You can't eyeball this stuff (w/ things that vary allot it generally takes a 10x change for humans to think an effect has doubled). Learn to parse/test and/or do the math.
Edited, Jul 26th 2008 9:43pm by shintasama
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i got mine acouple of days ago and hagun cant hold a candle to it. it is my new sky weapon. because at 100 tp i have never hit less than 1000 on gods. i havent even tryed it in exp yet. so imo save your cash and try and get this for sky (bfore you say anything yes i have used the hagun extensivly. but dont get me wrong hagun is good.... but this is beter^^
edited cus there was a 3 where there should have ben a zero
Well, all in all i have to say this is the best GK i've used, thats counting Shinsoku and Hagun. sure, at 100 TP hagun can do more than this (slightly), but try a 200-300tp ws. I can frequently hit for 1500 ws's on exp mobs and 1k+'s on HNMs, more than I was doing with Hagun. It's a great GK, i think the second best, next to the relic.
i got so lucky with this drop it was my first sky even and i didnt even know who zip was....killed it and saw a cool GK drop so i lotted then my ls leader lotted over me -.-. he let me have it since he uses his 75rng instead of his 75sam in sky so now im working towards 73 sam to wear it currently at 69. that makes me 1/1 :D
Just got mine, I'm now 1/5 or 1/6 on Zip. Just on the next trigger (Faust) our DRG got the Tonbo-giri. Must've been our lucky day. No special moonphase/lightningsday if someone cares.
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Lol it really means Cow-Cutter?? I like how the names usually mean something with a cool background...but Cow-Cutter? O.o
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Today, I did my 1st Sky event. I was on my way to sky, and I heard that my LS got Ushi to drop, and luckily I was the only samurai in our LS that's going ^^ Everyone noticed that, so they told me to rush. I did, I tried to rush as fast as I could ; ; but I was at the entrance of Ro'maeve, got to the teleporter that bringz you to Ru'Aun right when it droped out of the treasure pool >< tough luck for me. But I was kinda glad I got the Tonbo-giri drop later on. I'm hoping I can get the drop next time, but I heard the drop rate was shyt >< and hopefully when it does, I'll be the only samurai agian ; ; goo d luck to me... ><!
It's better than an Onimaru for a couple of reasons. For starters, if you're using your weaponskills at 100%tp, then a Hagun would be a much better choice because you'll probably get the most damage from 100%tp out of that gk. The only real time you should use an Onimaru (unless you can't afford a Hagun, which I don't blame you if you can't), is during a ksnm/god fight etc. where you build 300%tp prior to the battle. The Onimaru only offers +1 more damage over the Ushi, and even then the Ushi has a nice little +2STR bonus, and everyone knows +STR = hawt sawce. And if you're lucky, you get a +7 accuracy bonus on top of that! So all that being said. So when given the choice of +1 dmg or +2str and potential accuracy bonus (and it just looks @#%^ing cool lol), I'd say the choice is clear!
why not, i use it (check me on Ifrit server for proof for non-belivers) i love the dmg on this GK then on the Onimaru, Period
this is the third best GK in the game second best is the lvl 50 2-3 GK More TP litterly and you do about the same dmg as a 70ish GK no joke, the first best in Relic GK no doubt
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Posted:Sep 29 2005 at 8:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) In back in teh day Samurai used to have WEapon close to this. Named the Zanbato, mainly used to chop down Horse riders, teh joke was Tehy only swung it once..... o.o. Ushikirimaru. Samurais ate Cows while on teh battle fields which were close to farms and stuch. So tehy produced Ushikirimaru a lighter version to the Zanbato. the Ushikiri (had no Maru) tehy used to chop teh cows down and cooked them. was quite a interesting time. just some facts i looked out the other day
I just got this tonight with my linkshell. It's a beautiful great katana. I'm still trying to figure out if I like my Shinsoku or this better. Very close tie.
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Got this the other day in sky. Had full alliance of 75's so the fight didnt even last 10 mins. Gotta say, this this probably the next best GK to Relic, as in the title. Maybe the new 1 in the update is better, but I still have no info where it drops from, but I'm thinking a Sea HNM.
Even though u definately notice a difference in WS damage with Hagun and its TP bonus trait, your overall party damage with Ushi is greater. With this GK equipped, Haub(+5 str), 2 ruby rings(+4 str each), Hamichan kote+1 (+5 str), Wyvern Helm(+5 str), Warewolf Belt(+5 str), AF1 Pants (+3 str), Bushinomimi earring (+2 str) and eaten a sole sushi(+5 str, and like a hundred acc)...I have 76+40 Str. I'll let u imagine what kinda damage those WS's look like...
Edited, Sun Aug 14 22:55:44 2005
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Damn I was allmost iffy about swapping out my Hagun for this, 200 tp hitting like 300 is really nice..... But the rapid tp gain in pts puts me at 250-300 for every WS anyways, so it's definatly better for chaining in Exp pts with it's higher stats.
The hagun still kicks ass for HNM and 1shot farming, but for normal and exp battles I'd definatly keep this equipped.
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Today was the first time I adventured into sky. My friends LS let me watch them fight various gods. On the way to Genbu we heard the Ushiki NM was up so we went in killed it and got drop. The LS was so nice even though i wasnt a member they gave it to me! first try at him =P UshikirimaruFn
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I know many Sams on my server that are 0/20 on getting this to drop. My HNMLS got me sky and the next day, my first fight ever in sky was Zipacna and he dropped this. Being the only Samurai at the time, I got it :) I loooove it.
To answer those who are curious about how enmity helps Samurai.... Sams make awesome SATA SC partners. With enmity, it makes it easier to make the mob turn so the Thf or Drk/Thf can SATA and close the SC. At my lvl, I love finding a Drk/Thf to do Tachi: Kasha -> Spinning Slash with and sometimes when I provoke before the SC, it doesn't turn, more enmity will help with that.
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Well, if u cant find a tank but u can find a SAM (not that this would be a problem at this lvl, but read on) the +enmity would help, seeing as StoreTP applies to both when u hit and when u get hit meaning even more badass weapon skills to rend your opponents asunder. Especially good if you happen to be fighting demons ^_-
i love how the tip of the sword is flat and not pointed like most swords O.O thats just so cool. i also loved the way it looked with full saotome armor when i saw it today ^^ very cool
Ok i ve done this research about best weapon for each class and everythgi nstarts from "relic" to an ultimate class weapon. everythign you will find on this site: http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.jp/ffxi/us/ <- very helpfull btw
sam need eminity to sata the mob in battle to control hate well
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I have search through many weapons for many jobs. the ragnarok ,bravura ,scarecrow sythe and all of these have at least 89 attack. but the samurai only has 82. seems the samurai's stronger weapon is still to be found. any hints or know abouts the strongest katana please reply and future thanks.
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There's a new GK out there thanks to the update, and aside from any form of Relic GK, it's the highest damage GK out there (as far as I know).
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Futsuno Mitama DMG 84 DLY 480 DEX +8 Store TP +8 Latent: STR +8 Lv75 SAM
My SAM is a measly 10, but from what I can tell, the Fitsuno Mitama is one hell of a GK. (I would prefer the Shinsoku more, though, but that's just me.)
(BTW, it's listed on MysteryTour.)
Edit: Nevermind, link doesn't work. Just go on Google and look up Mystery Tour. It has it listed.
I know enough japanese to figure out what the title of this awesome knife is, read literally from left-to-right, it is Cow-cut-circle. Leave it to SE to figure out a name like that.
well, if you look at how the Japanese name people, maru is a common suffix. so you can just read it as 'cow killer.'
Which is still _really_ weird. :P
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It's not odd to have +enmity, especially for thiefs. Think about it... Sneak and Trick attack, + high enmity = high hate transfer to the tank... =)
For SAM, it gives you an option to NOT sub war. If you hit hard, and have high enmity, you will be able to get there attention without a WAR sub... kinda nice IMO. =)
At lower levels SAM/THF isnt so great, but at higher levels it is a very good combo. Also great for fighting HNM's and gods. Take a look at all the high level SAM's on your server and see how many sub thf.
Consider also that THFs love +enmity gear. This allows them to grab more hate with SATA. Only SATA puts all that hate on someone else. By the same token, a sam/thf using sata and +enmity will create more hate, and plant more hate.
The unfortunate part is that thfs swap enmity gear in and out. Not like you can easily swap weapons ^_^
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Posted:Jul 13 2004 at 11:23 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) HEY! don't say things you can't take back. i happen to be a 25 samurai/12 thief (the dex+ really helps) and when i hit 30, we'll see who'se laughing. level 30 for SAM/THFs = SNEAK ATTACK, TREASURE HUNTER, MEDITATE and STORE TP II.
I've heard that this mob can be attacked by multiple parties, so there is no limit to how many people can attack. I've also heard that the gem of the north is on a ??? spot, so all who fight can receive it. if this is true, please get back to me.
its a regular nm, normal fighting rules apply, but it isn't hard enough that you'd need more than an alliance, usually do it with 8-10, could probably with less.