Indra Katars 
75 mnk from Fenrir<Jenchin>:
I always see posts like this talking about which sub is better for what.
What i dont understand is why ppl dont learn to just tell ppl if they have a problem with their sub that they will be more then happy to walk away and let em replace em. Unless i am tanking or going into god fights i prefer /war, but that is my personal preferance.. for all of the ppl told to play as /nin or /thf or whatever sub ppl try to tell you to do... remind em that you pay for your own account and if they dont like it they dont have to pt with ya and leave it at that.
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75blm 73drk 52 pld 35 rng 36 whm 37 mnk 45 thf 47 smn 30 sam 29 nin 37 war 31 bst 31 rdm 20 brd
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i spend way too much time on this game XD
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i spend way too much time on this game XD
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ok first, 1% means 1 out of 100 (trip attack)
second, pup's that want max dmg should get these.
finally, the drop isnt that unbelievable^^
second, pup's that want max dmg should get these.
finally, the drop isnt that unbelievable^^
Added icon, PUP, fashion shot, and flagged as dropped.
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these are teh ghey. the triple attack doesn't go off enough to be usable all the time,made me mad also because i wanted these and when i tried them out i went and solo'd colibri, after 5 fights it triple attacked, get this, 3 times, and lightning went off once. NO THANKS, destroyers yes, please.
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i dont get anyone doing /thf for mnk for dragon kick i am 75 mnk and asuran fists is mnks bread and butter so to speak i got to 75 only subbed thf to farm in pt /war is the way to go in all my 3 years yea dragon for 1300-1600 is sweet but when you pull asuran fists for 900-1200 and close to 100% by fight end is alot better than one 1300-1600 every 1-2 fights i mena cmon sometimes i can pull 2 asuran fists a fight specially with walahra turban so to all u mnk/thf users ur a good farmer but do some dmg berserk double attack all i need to say
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Pretty sure Puppetmaster can use these now. lol they are gonna be hell to get though as they are rare as pcharm in BC 40 :D
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Not sure if pup can wield it or not. I've fought Steam Cleaner maybe 12 times in the pass 3weeks for the gem to pop whichever god. I'm not the leader of the ls so I just do what I'm told and don't know which gem/stone pops with god for the most part.
Not one time has it seem to drop I'm guessing the drop rate like 1% at best. But I have my doubts that people get this mob for the katars and not for the gem.
Not one time has it seem to drop I'm guessing the drop rate like 1% at best. But I have my doubts that people get this mob for the katars and not for the gem.
The other day I was fighting something, it was not facing me, and as WAR/MNK with Indras I threw 5 punches in a round. So yes, I did Triple Attack.
Ok heres some clerification for all you about a +1 and a +1%.
+1 gives you the "Actual" ability as if u were a thief and able to use it at the lowest proficiancy.
a.k.a you get 2 TH abilities on thf if u get a +1 it would technically be TH3 and if you got +1% if would just add on 1% to your base of TH ability.
the +% give that much of a percentile of the ability going off.
+1 gives you the "Actual" ability as if u were a thief and able to use it at the lowest proficiancy.
a.k.a you get 2 TH abilities on thf if u get a +1 it would technically be TH3 and if you got +1% if would just add on 1% to your base of TH ability.
the +% give that much of a percentile of the ability going off.
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Only one problem. Triple attack is a lvl 55thf ability. Thf cannot use these and you would need to be lvl 110 to get it from a subjob. The 1% gives you the ability at a 1% chance of going off. While this doesn't seem like much, think about how many times you attack in your average pt, suddenly you realize that you are triple attacking a good bit.
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it was an example
Let's just play the damn game and have some fun :D
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I like how a page for a weapon with an added effect turned into a page about subjob choices. Better yet is how level 50 something jobs, non-monk mind you, are saying that monks above 70 only use thf or that this sub is better than that. Another thing since i am at the top of the page. NO YOU DO NOT NEED TO SUB THF TO GET THIS EFFECT. Thank you.
Edited, Mon Aug 29 16:18:46 2005
Edited, Mon Aug 29 16:18:46 2005
Remember you are a unique and beautiful snowflake.....just like everybody else.
sadly i use to sub sam or thf to my mnk but people are to jaded to what the guide books say and think cus the guide says it their can be no other option but war sub and in turn dont invite mnks if they dont have war subed. i lost track of how many times i got invited then get oh u not war sub nvm (grrr) so i finally had to sub war cus i was falling behind all my friends with war sub who were same level or lower than me..
i've done mnk/sam mnk/thf and evan mnk/whm it really all just comes down to knowing how to really play they job andnknowing what to do with it. but again alass if the guides dont say so then it must not be good , sigh... what ever happen to thinking for oneself
btw how many mnks u seen runing around who can raise and solo tough mobs :)
i've done mnk/sam mnk/thf and evan mnk/whm it really all just comes down to knowing how to really play they job andnknowing what to do with it. but again alass if the guides dont say so then it must not be good , sigh... what ever happen to thinking for oneself
btw how many mnks u seen runing around who can raise and solo tough mobs :)
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i dont my server has the pposite effect. if your a 60+ mnk w/o thf sub ou dont get invites. yes you get to help with hate comtrol but here is the biggest problm. DOT is dropped dramaticaly not to mention loss in tp gain. with that said. i am a 75 nin on odin and i am getting these for my mnk (lv 22 cough) because the trple attack effect is latent. any other nins out there ever counter an attack while wearng the lv 72 gloves with counter+1 effect. both my ls nin buddy and i were able to counter attack ungur just the other night using those gloves. but you have to have no shadows otherswise it wont work. save me a few times. so its a laten effect of the equiptment, job has nothing to do with it. so play your job like you want and dont listen to what books say. this character is an extension of you not some book. be you and let me be me. until we post again later
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On the unicorn server all monks sub ninja. if you dont you get too much hate and die/almost die. about 80% of all monks on unicorn use that setup for shadows and a little less damage.
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Bruttus wrote:
any other nins out there ever counter an attack while wearng the lv 72 gloves with counter+1 effect. both my ls nin buddy and i were able to counter attack ungur just the other night using those gloves. but you have to have no shadows otherswise it wont work.
u can counter with shadows up
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NO,you can't counter with shadows up. Please don't put out false information.
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No,you can't counter with shadows up. Please don't put out false information.
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So...
with tripe attack +1%, could you theoretically have triple attack kick in for each fist making 6 hits, and THEN have each of those 6 hits double attack for 12 attacks in one round + a kick? O.O
Just imagine 13 hits within 1 second, it would be like kraken club hundred fists only with massive damage each hit!
with tripe attack +1%, could you theoretically have triple attack kick in for each fist making 6 hits, and THEN have each of those 6 hits double attack for 12 attacks in one round + a kick? O.O
Just imagine 13 hits within 1 second, it would be like kraken club hundred fists only with massive damage each hit!
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The Double Attack and Triple Attack traits are actually misnomers. A successful Double Attack will merely add 1 extra attack, and a successful Triple Attack will add 2 extra attacks. No multiplication of attacks ever takes place, as the names of the traits suggest.
So, if both Double and Triple Attack happen to occur on the same hit, 4 attacks will result (the original attack, the +1 from Double, and the +2 from Triple).
Regarding what Zektar said about the largest amount of hits a Monk can do in one round -- he's the level 75 MNK, not me, so I won't sit here and say he's necessarily wrong. However, I think he forgot about Double Attack from a MNK's WAR sub, which would allow a MNK to attack a total of 9 times in one round. Again, though, I haven't played MNK very high so I may be wrong -- maybe the effect on the Indra Katars doesn't stack with Double Attack or something.
So, if both Double and Triple Attack happen to occur on the same hit, 4 attacks will result (the original attack, the +1 from Double, and the +2 from Triple).
Regarding what Zektar said about the largest amount of hits a Monk can do in one round -- he's the level 75 MNK, not me, so I won't sit here and say he's necessarily wrong. However, I think he forgot about Double Attack from a MNK's WAR sub, which would allow a MNK to attack a total of 9 times in one round. Again, though, I haven't played MNK very high so I may be wrong -- maybe the effect on the Indra Katars doesn't stack with Double Attack or something.
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when dual wielding, a THF can hit up to 6 times. I usually hit 4 times - triple attack with one dagger, and my off hand strike. It's rare, but I have hit 6 times before, and 5 times every now and then too. If you went THF/WAR past THF50, you would get Double and Triple Attack, which makes 5 and 6 hit streaks come faster
So I'm not disaggreeing, just adding my 2 cents.
So I'm not disaggreeing, just adding my 2 cents.
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highest possible amount of hits from a MNK with indras in one round is 7. 2 triple attacks + 1 kick.
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Here's one thing you mnk/war Zealot's just don't see.
Yes, it's undisputed that in a fight that take's time, mnk/war will do more dmg in the long run.
However... MNK/THF is about quick fights. One thing you'll never ever see from a mnk/war, is a Dragon Kick for 1300 and a Light burst for 1600, something i hit quite often on SATA Dragon Kick.
MNK/THF isn't about DoT, it's about quick fights, you start a fight with a light chain, and it's over after about 15 seconds.
Yes, it's undisputed that in a fight that take's time, mnk/war will do more dmg in the long run.
However... MNK/THF is about quick fights. One thing you'll never ever see from a mnk/war, is a Dragon Kick for 1300 and a Light burst for 1600, something i hit quite often on SATA Dragon Kick.
MNK/THF isn't about DoT, it's about quick fights, you start a fight with a light chain, and it's over after about 15 seconds.
And here is something you wont see:A mnk/thf in a bone pt getting chain 56+
http://img206.echo.cx/img206/1921/revty15sg.jpg
I am sorry but i am 100% sure i will do more dmg on bones,weapons,golems and w/e against a mnk/thf...oh and i will also gain tp much faster.
soske... thats how you put the nail in the coffin. amnk/way can start every fight with tp a mnk/thf takes a lot longer to build up tp before they can use it. whats one quick fight when the next 2-3 are going to be slow because the mn/thf cannot get tp fast enough
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Um, Skyylya...
I was in a party a few nights ago, where one of the monks was regularly hitting 1400+ with dragon kick, and that was with /war. He was also hitting asuran fists for 1100-1200 damage.
Mind you, I think the only piece of gear that he didn't have was the fully upgraded relic knuckles. So, this is a bit of a rarity.
I was in a party a few nights ago, where one of the monks was regularly hitting 1400+ with dragon kick, and that was with /war. He was also hitting asuran fists for 1100-1200 damage.
Mind you, I think the only piece of gear that he didn't have was the fully upgraded relic knuckles. So, this is a bit of a rarity.
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Whoaaa someone said high level monks dont level with War sub anymore! that guy is clueless! thf sub for monk is good but only because it is the only other worth sub using for monk in the game!
No matter how much damage you do with a SATA dragon kick, the damage over time the war sub gives you will tower over the damage over time the thf sub gives you and that is all what the monk is about. Jesus dont make statements like that or people will believe them!! my god....
No matter how much damage you do with a SATA dragon kick, the damage over time the war sub gives you will tower over the damage over time the thf sub gives you and that is all what the monk is about. Jesus dont make statements like that or people will believe them!! my god....
Here's one thing you mnk/war Zealot's just don't see.
Yes, it's undisputed that in a fight that take's time, mnk/war will do more dmg in the long run.
However... MNK/THF is about quick fights. One thing you'll never ever see from a mnk/war, is a Dragon Kick for 1300 and a Light burst for 1600, something i hit quite often on SATA Dragon Kick.
MNK/THF isn't about DoT, it's about quick fights, you start a fight with a light chain, and it's over after about 15 seconds.
Yes, it's undisputed that in a fight that take's time, mnk/war will do more dmg in the long run.
However... MNK/THF is about quick fights. One thing you'll never ever see from a mnk/war, is a Dragon Kick for 1300 and a Light burst for 1600, something i hit quite often on SATA Dragon Kick.
MNK/THF isn't about DoT, it's about quick fights, you start a fight with a light chain, and it's over after about 15 seconds.
~Skyylya
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One problem there Skyylya, how in the world do you plan to WS at the start of EVERY fight if every fight only lasts 15 seconds? WS require TP, as you know, and you won't get much TP in a 15 second fight. You're thinking of DMG per fight when you are prime and ready to go and the mnk/war isn't, this is not DoT. DoT is how much you can do in an extended amount of time, across many fights, not one single long fight. So, unless you only party for 15 seconds at a time and only join once you have 100+TP, your statement goes out the window.
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Race: Hume
Job: 74mnk/59thf/52war/41nin
/WAR > /THF @ 75.
TP gains, dmg, total dmg, everything is better.
TP gains, dmg, total dmg, everything is better.
Double >.o
Edited, Tue Mar 15 00:03:25 2005
Edited, Tue Mar 15 00:03:25 2005
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Look who is making unbeleivable statements now o_O. Will the DoT of war outweigh thf... yes. Is it a huge difference, not nearly as large as you make it seem sorry to say.
And dont pass up SAM like most NA do, there are enough MNK/SAM, MNK/THF, MNK/WAR partys at 70+ that obviously SAM sub is much too important to ignore.
While there was some truth to your statement, your overblowing your stance by much more than it is worth.
And dont pass up SAM like most NA do, there are enough MNK/SAM, MNK/THF, MNK/WAR partys at 70+ that obviously SAM sub is much too important to ignore.
While there was some truth to your statement, your overblowing your stance by much more than it is worth.
My choco is faster than yours :p
Even with Meditate only giving 60% back to your TP, and Store TP, do you really think SAM is that worth to sub for MNK? WAR gives STR, and even though SA/TA has a recast time, THF is the second best sub (IMO) for a MNK.
I would rather see a MNK (which is always worried about having STR than anything else (besides MND and VIT) ) sub WAR or THF in my party instead of a SAM and start spamming their WS. I can't even imagine seeing a MNK spam the living crap out of his WS and then take aggro away from the main tank. Have fun with that. And also, this is just an opinion, not an attack to Yuri , cause I would hate to see someone flame me and say "STFU N00B, You're not even 70+".
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I would rather see a MNK (which is always worried about having STR than anything else (besides MND and VIT) ) sub WAR or THF in my party instead of a SAM and start spamming their WS. I can't even imagine seeing a MNK spam the living crap out of his WS and then take aggro away from the main tank. Have fun with that. And also, this is just an opinion, not an attack to Yuri , cause I would hate to see someone flame me and say "STFU N00B, You're not even 70+".
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sam sub for mnk gives the same STR as war sub while war gives 1 more VIT i believe sam sub gives 1 more AGI
You guys ever think of Mnk/Whm. I see that alot now. End game stuff has Mnk's doing nothing but Chi Blast. See Mnk's in Full MND gear with Whm sub doing Chi Blast for 1200 dmg on Kirin. Mnk's are flexable who cares what they sub as long as it works.
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Different subs for different situations. I have both War and Thf leveled to 37 and I usualy sub War. My Sam is still low so I haven't tried it yet but will. I feel that War is usually the stronger sub. For fights where things have insane evasion I think Chi-Blast is the way to go.
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what about DRK? once the monk hits lvl 60 they can get 2 Attack Bonuses
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Lol...when we went for my AF3 i got a mnk to help me out, but he came as mnk/drk to mess around...anyway i saw him do an Asuran Fists for 4000+ damage against the warrior type NM...
he did focus, last resort, souleater, boost (natch o.-)
i'll upload it and give a link...it was insane.
he did focus, last resort, souleater, boost (natch o.-)
i'll upload it and give a link...it was insane.
this post is a huge lie. I have done souleater asuran fists. it does not add anywhere near that amount of dmg.
with drk sub, each hit on souleater reduces your hp by 10% and addes 5% to your dmg. asuran is an 8 hit weapon skill. it adds a small amount of dmg to it.
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Edited, Wed Jun 8 02:39:36 2005
with drk sub, each hit on souleater reduces your hp by 10% and addes 5% to your dmg. asuran is an 8 hit weapon skill. it adds a small amount of dmg to it.
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Edited, Wed Jun 8 02:39:36 2005
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Actually its not neccessarily a lie, the NM has massive HP and takes massive amounts of damage from physical attacks...
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I think you mean Stun, DRK don't learn Flash. ~.^
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/Drk can never be as good as /war. While you do gain 2 attack bonuses, you still get 1 attack bonus from war. Add in Double attack (probably /war's best benefit) and Berserk (which is way better than last resort), and /drk is beat. That's not even including the defence bonus, provoke, and warcry. Souleater is kinda neat, but as a sub you lose just as much hp for only half the return. The magic isn't even worth bothering for.
/Drk isn't the worst sub in the world, it is far from being better than /war.
/Drk isn't the worst sub in the world, it is far from being better than /war.
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yeah You're forgetting /dark as a sub for rdm Spamming flash has saved my ass more than once in HNM.
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The triple attack effect works without thf sub for monk. I can confirm it does occur very rarely. Just like if any job equips Counter+1 earrings they will have a very slim chance to counter (not nearly as high of a chance as with monk sub or main) These are one of the best h2h weapons in the game, right under Kaiser Knuckles and Spharhai.
i dont think they were thinking ahead at all. i mean using a level 73 item at level 110
Triple attack +1 or any +1 items are not the same as their "enhances" said ability flavours.
Tripple Attack +1 does exactly that for a non Thief, it gives them Triple attack. For a thief it would enhance it, this item is not for THF though.
Tripple Attack +1 does exactly that for a non Thief, it gives them Triple attack. For a thief it would enhance it, this item is not for THF though.
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wait, triple attack +1?? thf can't equip it and it won't work for the sub because you can't have triple attack at 37 sub
can someone explain?
can someone explain?
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It gives non thf class tripple attack, with it equipped. Dunanaha.. right.. anywho there ya go, explained
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It is also possible that SE is actually thinking ahead. I wouldnt be suprised if the level cap was raised higher in a year or two. Monk/thf with triple attack still probably wouldnt hold a candle to Monk/war because of berserk...but it would be interesting none the less.
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your an idiot this does give triple attack even if you dont sub thf. dur...dur
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Take a look at all the lvl 75 MNKs, i don't think you will find many MNK/WARs because most sub THF for SATA dragon kick ^^
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Posted: Dec 08 2004 at 6:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Take a look at all the lvl 75 MNKs, i don't think you will find many MNK/WARs because most sub THF for SATA dragon kick <<<<<-----this guy has no clue---the only thing thv is used for is when we farm!!!!!! thats it are WS are plenty strong to out do your sata dragon kick idea..ex.you the-thv- hit for say 8-12 hp each attack then sa/ta for 400-600 if your lucky,ok me the monk hits for 40-100 per fist then WS asuran fist for 800-1200 with warroir sub with double att--mnk/warr=DMG mnk/thv=more drops when i farm thats it!
Subbing THF also guarentees a hit every minute. A lot of the HNMs have such high evasion, that it is extremely hard to hit them. Against HNMs, MNKs are really only needed for Chi-Blast because that will do the most DMG.
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but that means that your main would have to be lvl 110 and your sub lvl 55...
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I have these, thanks to the help of 6 friends from my NA linkshell. We took out the steam cleaner with a 75 WHM/BLM, two 75 BLM/RDMs, a 75 DRK/NIN, 70 THF/WAR, 71 PLD/WAR, and a 75 MNK/WAR (me). It was a tough battle, and we had to use our 2hrs to win, but in the end it paid off.
Anyway, the weapon is a pretty rare drop, and the +1 triple attack is really only a 1% chance to having a triple attack go off (although when it does go off it's pretty crazy, even though I've only seen it go off on one fist so far), but they're still very nice and better than Cross-counters. They seem to have a hidden effect because I've noticed that kick goes off a lot more with them than Cross-counters, and even Double Attack seems to happen more often.
The lightning effect is only around 8-20 extra damage as well, and goes off rarely.
Edited, Fri May 14 19:54:31 2004
Anyway, the weapon is a pretty rare drop, and the +1 triple attack is really only a 1% chance to having a triple attack go off (although when it does go off it's pretty crazy, even though I've only seen it go off on one fist so far), but they're still very nice and better than Cross-counters. They seem to have a hidden effect because I've noticed that kick goes off a lot more with them than Cross-counters, and even Double Attack seems to happen more often.
The lightning effect is only around 8-20 extra damage as well, and goes off rarely.
Edited, Fri May 14 19:54:31 2004
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They seem to have a hidden effect because I've noticed that kick goes off a lot more with them than Cross-counters, and even Double Attack seems to happen more often
how is double to occur more if you sub thf for triple attack?
(((((((^.^;)
Again, you don't have to sub THF for the triple attack. Even if you did sub THF, triple attack is lv 55 so you'd have a really hard time. This isn't to say MNK/THF is a bad thing, though.
triple attack +1 + double attack + kick, you will never stop hitting :D
dmg and delay is ok? yup yup good weapon
dmg and delay is ok? yup yup good weapon