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Just got this today
# Jun 08 2007 at 6:58 PM Rating: Default
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Just got this today its very nice im on Garuda.
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CHR
# Jun 06 2007 at 8:42 AM Rating: Default
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They put that +20 CHR thurr cuz all you ugly mofos want it.. Fukkers.. XD

Ya wut you gonna say! .. It pawns if you like to get beat up a lot.. I pawn you on ballista regarless what you wear even with this sh*t on. XD I pawn you with my GK lol.. But for gods this works ok.. Get the aegis shield and gods will hit you 5-10 dmg.. Get that red sword with -7% dmg taken and it'll get lower XD but if you get hit with Tachi: Kaiten.. Better pray.. Lol
CHR does affect killer effects.. And LUCK.. So you won't get yer as$ whopped.. Lol GL to all you tankors.. Best thing to do is skill shield and parry, you can't dodge sh*t any way with eva.. to parry more / block more.. Lower your eva..
CHR
# Mar 12 2008 at 10:08 PM Rating: Default
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They put that +20 CHR thurr cuz all you ugly mofos want it.. Fukkers.. XD

Ya wut you gonna say! .. It pawns if you like to get beat up a lot.. I pawn you on ballista regarless what you wear even with this sh*t on. XD I pawn you with my GK lol.. But for gods this works ok.. Get the aegis shield and gods will hit you 5-10 dmg.. Get that red sword with -7% dmg taken and it'll get lower XD but if you get hit with Tachi: Kaiten.. Better pray.. Lol
CHR does affect killer effects.. And LUCK.. So you won't get yer as$ whopped.. Lol GL to all you tankors.. Best thing to do is skill shield and parry, you can't dodge sh*t any way with eva.. to parry more / block more.. Lower your eva..


o..m...g... were to start, ok first off its not pawn retard is PWNed "pernounced powned" which actually came from a typo, of the word "owned" on a well respected Counterstrike Website and was just used from there on most first person shooter online games till it migrated to MMO and MMORPG's.

Second yes CHR does effect killer trait hense why bst killer trait kick in alot more then any other jobs do. Third Tachi: Kaiten HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH....*breath* AHAHAHAHAHAHA shut up noob, if someone actually did have this why the hell would they even wanna fight a pld thats not even a challenge for a SAM with gimped gear, and before anyone even says ooh i'll kick your ass pld/nin or pld/blu i have 2 words for you Soboro Sekkanoki.

As for you kicking anyones ass in ballista, i'm more or less thinking ur a lv. 15 nooblet with way to much time on your hands thinking you know everything cause you've read a few forum posts on alla.

ooh and when you go to school tommorow make sure to pay attention to punctuation in english class plz and thank you.

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Edited, Mar 13th 2008 12:15am by keddin
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# Feb 01 2009 at 1:52 AM Rating: Decent
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lol! I agree with you completely... I just thought it was funny you misspelled pronounced when you're talking about grammar and such.
pld/bst would be awesome with this gear.
# Jan 03 2007 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
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OMG my dream set. I am 75 bst 60 pld right. Pld 75 having bst sub would be awesome. pld/bst would be able to charm about anything with this gear and apollo staff. And could pld/bst tank some hnm. Charm you can use as a provoke(especially with 60+ charisma and little bit enimty gear)10 or 8 sec recast. Killer effects are godly with tatami shield and bikini shell and you have bst sub that has killer effect boost.
#DragonIrons, Posted: Mar 22 2007 at 2:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) please! tell me you're joking, unless you're wanting to try out soloing on pld/bst.... tank a HNM /bst? no voke, no defender, no def boost from just having war sub in the first place... And i've read down a little, some posts i just noticed were still from 2005 lol.... but i need to say this, I hope it gets around so i can stop hearing noobs giving people that want to level Pld the wrong information...
pld/bst would be awesome with this gear.
# Feb 02 2008 at 3:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Seriously? He said that with this armor pld/bst can use charm as a SUBSTITUTE voke
CHR
# Jul 08 2006 at 7:32 PM Rating: Decent
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about the CHR, maybe it doesnt really have a purpose...like how some BLM JSE increases CHR and/or AGL....just saying, it doesnt have to have a purpose
CHR
# Aug 05 2006 at 9:16 PM Rating: Decent
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the gear gives all the chr to make killer effect godly
most pld have a few pieces of gear to give killer effect ie koenig shield, tatami shield, bibiki seashell, general shield and a whole line of lvl 50 killer effet earing.

Edited, Aug 5th 2006 at 10:24pm EDT by princeandprincess
CHR
# Oct 08 2006 at 2:03 AM Rating: Decent
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yeah plus PLD is one of the higher CHR jobs in the game anyway. mithra/galka THF with tatami won't intimidate anything nearly as much as elvaan/hume/taru PLD with full koenig and tatami
How to make...
# Jun 16 2006 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent
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How do I make this?

Do I need a high level craft? if so... which one?

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heh...
# Jan 22 2006 at 3:18 PM Rating: Decent
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*sigh* if it was true that CHR affects hate.... then you would have alot of hate in valkram dunes while PLing... and stupid ppl voke it off me all the time... Nin/War and War/mnks...
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# Jan 11 2006 at 11:49 PM Rating: Decent
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i want koeing soooooooo bad it sux to be lvl 60
Chr =/= Hate
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A lot of people on here are saying that Chr effects the strength of Provoke or the amount of hate you get (like 2 Str gives 1 Attack), or the rate at which hate decays.

None of this is right.

Paladins hold hate easier on HNMs because melee DD/BLMs aren't doing 1.5k weaponskills/spells, and hitting for 200 a swing. They may do a 500dmg WS and a 700 damage spell, while hitting for 40 damage a swing.

They lose hate less wearing this set because they aren't getting hit for as much. When you get hit you lose hate, if you get hit for less damage, you lose less hate.

Hundreds of tests have been done, such as Brd/War with +60Chr trying to voke off a Warrior with +2 Enmity for example. They couldn't do it.

What is the Chr on Koenig for?

The Chr stat on Koenig armor is for Intimidations when you have Killer Effects.

But Rellinger, PLDs only get Undead Killer and there aren't any Undead HNMs!

This is true, but with gear such as Hrotti, Tatami Shield, and various Killer Earrings (such as Demon Earrings) and this armor set, you will be able to Intimidate HNMs that may hit you for 200~ a swing. It's basically an extra free paralyze that stacks with the spell.

If you want to find out more, maybe you should actually read the Paladin forums, where they talk about this kind of thing?
RE: Chr =/= Hate
# Apr 30 2006 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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But Rellinger, PLDs only get Undead Killer and there aren't any Undead HNMs!


Eh ure wrong on this... Xolotl
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# Oct 22 2005 at 5:19 PM Rating: Default
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...... very stupid postings here ^^
this armor is awesome for a PLD tanking HNMS and other Heavy stuff so stop complaining about the CHR ! much CHR is good to hold hate ^^ look at stupid NIN/WAR <.< they cant hold hate very good if the BLM is a stupid nuker cuz NIN/WAR CHR isnt that good as PLD CHR .....
#DragonIrons, Posted: Mar 22 2007 at 2:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yes you're right VERY stupid postings., I can't believe after 3 yyears and SE BEING QUOTED "CHR does not affect provoke or inluence hate in the least" there are still people that think CHR helps provoke or hate..... READ UP, IT helps with Intimidations, THAT'S IT!
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# Oct 21 2005 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
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U get Body abj from Nidhogg (HNM from Dragon's Aery), unfortunaetly a very rare drop, and the other pieces u can get them from various gods and HNMS

To get them You turn in the Abj + a cursed item that u can buy from ah then turn into a NPC to get the koeing piece

Edited, Fri Oct 21 19:16:40 2005
RE: how to get it
# Oct 10 2005 at 3:34 AM Rating: Decent
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u have to fight hnm's for this krazy armor and hope the correct Abj. drops, it can't be crafted >.> I have two pieces myself but I dont imagine I'll be getting anymore. But I want M. abj body sssooooooo bad! /cry. Oh well...

Edited, Mon Oct 10 04:51:42 2005
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# Oct 09 2005 at 10:44 PM Rating: Decent
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a pld with full koenig = invincible
ultimate defense
ultimate weakness
great armor for hate and pld defense
but not great for dealing damage
wouldnt recomend wearing whole set when soloing mobs or xping
ya a paladin isnt a DD but hey they gotta do some damage
spirits within, vorpal blade, swift blade, savage blade
awesome ws and a pld without them doesnt look as cool >.>b
got more to say but dont feel like saying rest,
hope help some of u
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# Oct 09 2005 at 10:44 PM Rating: Default
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a pld with full koenig = invincible
ultimate defense
ultimate weakness
great armor for hate and pld defense
but not great for dealing damage
wouldnt recomend wearing whole set when soloing mobs or xping
ya a paladin isnt a DD but hey they gotta do some damage
spirits within, vorpal blade, swift blade, savage blade
awesome ws and a pld without them doesnt look as cool >.>b
got more to say but dont feel like saying rest,
hope help some of u
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# Oct 09 2005 at 10:43 PM Rating: Default
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a pld with full koenig = invincible
ultimate defense
ultimate weakness
great armor for hate and pld defense
but not great for dealing damage
wouldnt recomend wearing whole set when soloing mobs or xping
ya a paladin isnt a DD but hey they gotta do some damage
spirits within, vorpal blade, swift blade, savage blade
awesome ws and a pld without them doesnt look as cool >.>b
got more to say but dont feel like saying rest,
hope help some of u
peace!!!
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What is purifying?
# Oct 03 2005 at 8:08 PM Rating: Decent
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ok when i first saw this i thought omg its a crafted item and its rare/ex that means i have to have a high lvl craft myself - then i saw it was "purifying" what exactly is this? im not a high lvl pld but would like to know exactly how i get this armour family - thanks
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What is purifying?
# Oct 08 2006 at 2:07 AM Rating: Decent
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the skill to make the cursed cuirass is high level, but to make the koenig piece itself you take cursed cuirass and an abjuration that drops off HNMs to a NPC in the cathedral at sandy.

he does the "purifying synth" and combines the abjuration with cursed gear to make uber ra/ex stuff like this
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# Aug 07 2005 at 9:13 PM Rating: Default
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Imagine "hate" being a full meter, the higher CHR you have...the slower that meter will fall.
It is better for hnms bcuz the fights are obviously alot longer then an xp mob, so in xp pt its in no way "bad" but there is better.
I wouldnt kno how a plds performance in full koenig with E.Staff and tav Taco would be cuz i dont have it all ; ;
and in ballista if you can land your voke [not too common] it would be a very big help with it all on ^^
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#DragonIrons, Posted: Mar 22 2007 at 2:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Again, WRONG. Hate has NOTHING do do with CHR, neither does provoke. ever hear of Enmity? CHR affects how often u intimidate that's IT
Hmmm
# Aug 03 2005 at 3:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Please answer my few questions.

1. Wouldn't this Armor be more of an HNM or Dynamis kinda armor? cuz it does bring you down alot more then we alrdy are in the PLD DMG department.

2. If i was to equip this whole set, have an Earth Staff, and Tav Tacos would I take ANY DMG when i exp XD lol im curious Cuz i dunno im only lvl 60PLD =P

3. Cuz this work in ballista? Why or why not.
woot!
# Jul 18 2005 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Glade gets Koenig Body! :D

first NA player on hades to get it, and a RL friend of mine ^_^

gogo AscendantSky w

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# Jul 12 2005 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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your all wrong chr abviosly = dmg i mean its so obvios:P
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# Jun 07 2005 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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CHR also effects killer effect activation rate~ nice when combined with various killer add shields.
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# Jun 10 2005 at 9:19 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok this is why CHR is on the armor. CHR effects bards songs and suck and certain ws. One of those weapon skills happens to be spirits within. Now this armor is supposed to be for hnms, even if the str down n stuff was not there plds still dont hit very hard on them thus most other ws would be useless to use. But with ful set of koenig and with 300tp and full hp this ws will do well over 1000 dmg to any hnm no matter what lvl or def it has. go ahead n try it out
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# Jun 15 2005 at 5:24 AM Rating: Decent
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CHR doesn't effect Spirits Within..... Spirits Within is based on HP and TP only. 300%TP = you do damage equivalent to 15/32 of your current HP.
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Koenig Set CHR
# Jun 07 2005 at 3:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm just gonna throw this out there since NOBODY has yet that I've seen. SE, in their report about CHR affecting Hate and Agrro, which it doesn't, they said it affects some weapon skills. In particular, it affects Light based weapon skills. Skills such as Seraph Blade, Spirits with in, and if you have the pleasure of wielding Exaclibur, it'll also affect the Knights of the Round WS that you are granted. The armor grants so much CHR to PLD who wear it since their WS will do so much more damage that it'll make up for the lack of punch on a 'normal' attack. I still don't understand why nobody else has mentioned this as of yet.
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# Jul 06 2005 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Because you'll hit for 0 and never get TP to use your uber 1337 WS :(
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# Jun 02 2005 at 1:43 PM Rating: Decent
All you people crack me up i came to find out more about hnm . all i here is people that think they know what pld needs and know one no's for sure what the hell chr for. I dont think se know either. but if any one could post some usefull info here that be great.Since i dont know where this nm spawns or what kinda group is needed to take it down.ty
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# Jul 18 2005 at 11:17 PM Rating: Decent
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First look up Nidhogg, and Fafnir since he's the normal spawn, then make sure you're lvl 75 and in a good experienced HNM LS, then spend ages camping him, KB, Aspe getting and losing many claims then hope to hell that you beat Nidhogg, that he drops the martial abjuration, pray that you are the one in your ls that gets it, then go buy the cursed cuirass and un-curse, and THEN go sign your name on the demi-god paladin list... err where was that list again... lol ... OR you could wuss out and buy the martial abjuration from whatever HNM LS dominates your server. Last one i heard of selling was the very good Japanese LS Bonkurarz on Unicorn selling for around 20 million to another LS for one of their PLDs. (Obviously since it's rare/ex you have to be there for Nidhog's death so they can invite you in.)
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# May 23 2005 at 10:19 PM Rating: Decent
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To be able to craft this from the cursed armor, do you have to have a certain crafting skill, or will it succeed every time?

EDIT: is there also a crystal involved?

Edited, Mon May 23 23:23:42 2005
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CHA on Koenig
# Feb 27 2005 at 5:20 PM Rating: Good
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Why CHA is on the Koenig/Kaiser Set

All "killer" traits are directly related to CHA. Undead Killer, Beast Killer, Dragon Killer, Insect Killer, etc. Ever play a BST? BST's with high CHA get a bonus when fighting an animal they have the killer trait for. So, a high CHA BST sees "The Hill Lizard is intimidated by your pressense" if they have the Lizard Killer trait.

Now, if you take a look at the ENTIRE Koenig set, you'll see that it enhances Beast Killer trait. When someone is enhanced on a class that doesn't get the skill, it is very weak. So, to compensate, there's a HUGE CHA bonus on this armor.

Take it to an HNM situation, where this set belongs (**not in an exp situation**a pld would not be able to deal enough damage or take enough damage to keep hate**), and suddenly you are paralyzing something that does 200-300hp damage per hit.

CHA will not affect enmity. Never has, never will. CHA might affect provoke, but it is highly doubtful, as 'voke gets less and less effective in higher levels.


Edited, Sun Feb 27 17:20:26 2005
RE: CHA on Koenig
# May 11 2005 at 1:26 PM Rating: Default
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CHR determines how well you hold hate over time.
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you mean "CHR" right?
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RE: CHA on Koenig
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*nods* Yea, I just play too many games ;-; Stuff like BG abbriviates it to CHA instead of CHR. Regardless, info help?

Edited, Mon Mar 14 04:11:07 2005
god gear..
# Feb 27 2005 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Is this one type of god gear ive seen crimson gear, Koenig gear but never anythin g for the whitemages is there some type of gear for whm of this stature?
RE: god gear..
# Mar 30 2005 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
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This isn't god gear, which is useable immediately, like Kirin's Osode, Byakko's Haidate, etc. This is made using an abjuration to uncurse a piece of armor. The abjurations drop from certain HNMs and gods.

WHM can use the Aquarian Abjurations which uncurse pieces into Zenith Gear. The head and legs are good for whm, body is ok. The hands are really suited for BLM, maybe RDM too for bursts.

Edited, Wed Mar 30 14:56:49 2005
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CHR does effect Enmity.
# Jan 24 2005 at 8:50 AM Rating: Decent
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My LS leader has Full Koeing gear and I'd like to put to rest this whole big argument.

A PLD with Full AF or Adaman will hold hate BETTER then someone with Full Koeing in an exp PT. On a HNM where it can take up to 3 hours to kill a PLD with Full Koeing with Hold Hate FAR better then any other pld with any other type of armor.

Here's the facts:

Squre Enix said that CHR does not effect Provoke and other job ability's. What it does effect is the time it takes for that hate to ware off. In an exp pt where fights are very short there isnt enough time to build up enough hate.

So, After 10 Mins of Voke Flash and JA's, a PLD with +60 CHR will have build up alot of hate, a BLM can build up alot of hate but that will dispers faster and won't stack as much.

So in conclution, CHR Effects Emnity reduction time, it does not how ever effect how much Emnity you will receive from any action you perform.

Koeing Armor is for Long Fight NM's. AF is better over all for exp pt's. If you have had a PLD tanking Fafnir for 1 hour, you will have trouble trying to remove hate off them if they have High CHR, but at the start of the fight its no problem.

I have never seen a PLD Tank Fafnir and live that didnt at least have some form of +CHR gear. The PLD will take so much dmg that the whm's will end up building up alot of Emnity and getting killed which in turn kills the PLD, with Enough CHR and Build up of Enmity the PLD can Hold hate.

I mean I don't even have to say this guy's, I mean why the heck would Koeing give +60 CHR if it does nothing? SE doesn't do pointless thing's.
RE: CHR does effect Enmity.
# Feb 26 2005 at 4:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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ARGGGGHHH ><

Here is EXACTLY what SE said when someone interviewed them asking what CHR affects.



Q: "Does charisma affect hate/enmity(aggro)?
Or is it only for Bard songs and Beastmaster charms?"

SE A: "The charisma attribute score does not affect hate or enmity(aggro). It does,
however, affect how a bard`s songs and a beastmaster`s charm ability are not
only used but also resisted. There are also weapon skills that are greatly
affected by charisma."

THEY ARE NOT BEING TRICKY. THEY ARE NOT BEING EVASIVE. THEY ARE TELLING US THAT CHR ONLY AFFECTS CHARM, SONGS AND CERTAIN WS'.

This is so incredibly frustrating. If I were an SE rep I would go (Ballista) on everyone claiming otherwise. Is it possible your tank had so much hate after 3 hours because he was producing three hours worth of tank-caliber hate?

*EDIT* People hate hearing the truth, apparently, as I've been rated down for showing it.

Edited, Sat Feb 26 23:10:27 2005
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RE: CHR does effect Enmity.
# May 29 2005 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
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i can tell you for a FACT that CHR does effect hate/ or hate generated by Provoke, if you have ever used a Jaco-O-Lantern (Acc+10, Eva+10, CHR-10) while tanking you will know what i'm talking about.

As a war/nin in a pt and another war/nin (basically with similar gear) the one that doesnt have CHR-10 will end up tanking b/c provoke will not generate enough hate.

My question is...
does CHR affect the amount of hate generated when using Cure spells also or does it only affect JAs?

If anyone has any experience regarding this topic that could shed some light on my query it would be appreciated!
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# Feb 06 2005 at 4:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Correct.

Enmity doesn't pool, it flows. As time passes, enmity from any action that created it fades.

What's little known, is a mob doing damage to the hated person actually causes this to happen even faster. So ninja who block all of a mob's attacks kind of "stop up" the flow of enmity as the fight continues, this is pillar of how ninja are even able to tank at all.
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CHR?
# Jan 05 2005 at 5:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Question:
if STR = attack, DEX = accuracy, VIT = defense, etc, wouldn't CHR = emnity? And the more the emnity, the more hate per Provoke?
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RE: CHR?
# Jan 12 2005 at 2:06 AM Rating: Default
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Dude, for the last time...CHR does NOT have any affect in Provoke, Hate, Enmimity, Aggro, WHATEVER! It's just there.
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RE: CHR?
# Jan 21 2005 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
I would venture to say that you are the uneducated one. CHR has a direct effect on enmity and its duration.

No one wants a charming PLD. So get off your high horse on bashing people. He seemed a lot more intelligent with his question than you did with your uneducated reply.
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#DragonIrons, Posted: Mar 22 2007 at 2:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) apparently you don't READ, CHR HAS NO EFFECT ON ENMTIY! It helps WS dmg and killer effects, THAT'S IT GDI!
RE: CHR?
# Apr 01 2005 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
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How about this? CHR just means to a PLD that they look good in it. ;p You know, Charisma is just a way of saying "You look good". Saying that a Holy-ish kind of figure in nice shiny armor would look "pretty" to me. You like how that person looks, especially going for a PLD AF, they look good in it.
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Cool! Where do I get one?
# Jan 02 2005 at 2:20 AM Rating: Default
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How do you obtain the whole set?
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CHR doesn't enhance provoke
# Nov 27 2004 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Why are people continuing to argue that CHR adds enmity? It doesn't. It has been officially announced by Square several times. CHR is for brds and bsts, and it helps with the intimidation rate of the various 'circle' job abilities.
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RE: hmm
# Nov 10 2004 at 9:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Valor set is much more practical than this. You need enmity, sorry, but you do. 2 Hades Earring +1s, Kaiser Shield, Mermaid Ring? Sorry, you need more.


You realize that the koenig armors have CHR+, which enchance provoke, right? With full koenig one will have 60+ Charisma.

Yes, Valor is more useful for anything else not HNM, but koenig is basically designed for this. A lot of HNMs are kited anyway, so the pld's not going to melee to keep hate in addition.
#DragonIrons, Posted: Mar 22 2007 at 2:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) omg yet another fool.... CHR DOES NOT AFFECT VOKE
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# Nov 01 2004 at 6:54 PM Rating: Decent
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this is awsome, yeah valor is better for exping, but what about HNM runs?
STR drop = no big deal
# Sep 25 2004 at 9:52 PM Rating: Good
I just wanted to point out that the STR drop isn't that big a deal, if a PLD relies on attack power to keep aggro... I dont wanna sound rude but that makes for a pretty horrible PLD... the counterbalance for the STR drop is in the CHR, which really helps you keep aggro, its not just for BRDs and BSTs... It helps give more 'umph' to your maintaining of enmity. A BRD/WAR w/ its high CHR could prob pull a mob off a main WAR with a voke, unless its the maube 3rd voke... either way, the STR is counterbalanced by the CHR, id rather have CHR+ than STR+ anyway, i agree w/ Ixi, let the BLM do the dmg...
#TARUSpyder, Posted: Dec 30 2004 at 3:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) CHR doesnt effect provoke... a lv. 1 war can voke off a 60 war...
RE: STR drop = no big deal
# Feb 27 2005 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Except that Provoke is a level 5 Warrior ability.
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How to get it
# Sep 03 2004 at 10:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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Guys I just wanted to pass along the information on how to get this armor since I have found a lot of people still don't know how to get this and I just found out and wanted to pass this along. Good Luck

http://ffxi.cannotlinkto/itemdb/abjuration.php



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PLD+1
# Aug 30 2004 at 2:02 AM Rating: Default
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this is no doubt a very good armor for a PLD to have.....I myself still dont know how to aquire it..but I believe that it isnt the best EXP gear du to the fact that it has no enmity boost and dealing minumal DMG isnt gonna get hate....nevertheless I would like to add it to my collection because it is very useful......but I doubt i would exp in it if other gear was available
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rare/ex
# Aug 25 2004 at 8:10 AM Rating: Decent
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how can i get my hands on this, its rare/ex so i cant buy it. is it dropped, quested. Im guessing Dynamis

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# Jul 29 2004 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
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/drool

don't care how much str or dex goes down, as a PLD with that much vit your nearly invicible.
The BLM can deal damage i would just rather not die.
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awesome armor
# Jul 25 2004 at 4:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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well i ve found some usefull info for those who d liek to know more about Relic's and Af2, go to this website :
http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.jp/ffxi/us/equip/46abjuration.htm <- very helpfull tho!

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Found it
# Jul 20 2004 at 12:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Got that pic of the koenig Full set on a elvaan just go to this link

http://www.ffxionline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=6337f447c46630892475f0352cf197ed&threadid=44809

its more beautiful then i could have hoped
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# Jul 19 2004 at 11:26 PM Rating: Decent
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OH SWEET MOTHER OF GOD I WANT THIS!!!! Seen the full set in a screan its absoultly hot. to bad with the total set your vit jumps like 80 but every other melee stat drops about the same..sure would miss hitting for more then 12, oh and actually hitting due to the lack of dex! In my mind as a PLD..its so worth it!
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str debuffs
# Jun 24 2004 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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The -STR doesnt matter, one of the abjurational swords does damage depending on your how high your HP is, not depending on STR. Its the DEX that sucks and im sure theres a loop hole about it somewhere. And you get it by un-cursing the matching cursed gear, you have to get certain kinds of abjurations for each piece. HNMs drop the abjurations (Fafnir, King Behemoth ect.). For the record the Valor set is not PLD Relic, its PLD AF2, differance.

My mistake, the sword I was talking about is a PLD/RDM Relic sword

Edited, Thu Jun 24 11:39:41 2004
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RE: str debuffs
# Jul 14 2004 at 7:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Relic and AF2 are the same thing, though the weapons are the only things that are actually ever named "Relic" (example: Relic Sword, Relic Scythe, etc.), but the armor is still Relic.
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# Feb 22 2005 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
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armor isnt relic, it's AF2. The weapons are relic though.
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# Jun 13 2004 at 7:35 PM Rating: Default
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How do i get my hand on one of these just a question
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set?
# Jun 10 2004 at 7:50 PM Rating: Good
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SRY FOR CAPS>>>MY COMPis screwY
ANYWAY
DOES ANYONE HAVE A PIC OF SUMONE WEARING THE FULL SET?

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Armor
# May 12 2004 at 4:09 AM Rating: Decent
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A warrior wouldn't want this armor because of debuffs on STR and DEX. So, PLD will get priority.
This armor is from removing curse from cursed armor. You need to get an item 'Abjurations' from killing HNMs such as Fafnir and King Behemoth.
RE: Armor
# May 30 2004 at 9:53 AM Rating: Default
I have seen a few warriors on the alexander server running around with this it looks cool but i dont like the -10 str
hmm
# May 08 2004 at 7:53 PM Rating: Default
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well...looks like the pld relic armor...but it cant be,cuz its for warrior too.

if it would be the relic armor ( maybe im wrong and it is ) it would be droped in dynamis
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RE: hmm
# Jun 10 2004 at 7:51 PM Rating: Decent
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pld relic armOR IS VALOR ARMOR FYI :)
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# Jul 19 2004 at 5:03 PM Rating: Default
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Valor set is much more practical than this. You need enmity, sorry, but you do. 2 Hades Earring +1s, Kaiser Shield, Mermaid Ring? Sorry, you need more.
RE: hmm
# Nov 24 2004 at 9:10 PM Rating: Decent
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true, you do need enmity, but you can NOT turn this down or say that it is less practical than valor. trust me, my best friend is a lv 74 PLD whose been conniving about what his end-game armor will be for a long time.

here's what you do:
take full koenig armor, get rid of the schaller, and replace it with Aegishjalmr (enmity +7). then, get Hercules' Ring (enmity +3), and finally get a Kaiser Shield (enmity +4). 14 total enmity added and you still get +50 VIT and CHR. in my opinion better than throwing out this full set and replacing it with valor.
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Total stats given from equipment:
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STR +19, DEX +22, VIT -3, AGI +0, INT +13, MND -10, CHR +0,
Attack +67, Accuracy +61, Defense +152, Evasion -6
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# May 04 2004 at 8:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Where do you get this or can you get this? If anyone know where you get this i`ll pay for knowlage ^^

Edited, Tue May 4 21:32:37 2004
woops
# Apr 30 2004 at 1:37 AM Rating: Decent
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sorry, i meant how the hell do you get it?
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omg
# Apr 30 2004 at 1:36 AM Rating: Decent
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yeah its beautiful, but how much does it cost?
RE: omg
# May 27 2004 at 5:58 AM Rating: Decent
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fewl, it says clearly RARE/EX on the picture
wow
# Apr 28 2004 at 7:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Talk about making the Paladin even more of a tank who can't do crap for damage! -10 to str/dex!! But that +20 VIT means you take a lot less damage. And theres that CHR bonus...
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# Apr 27 2004 at 7:12 PM Rating: Decent
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whoa nice

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