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Valor Surcoat
Type: Relic
Augments "Cover"
Category: Final Fantasy XI This page last modified 2009-05-16 19:04:07. | Submit a correction Used in Quests:Found in Areas:Dropped off Mobs:
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This is the 3rd/4th Best body Pld can wear extreamly useful very nice gear..
Cover Effect on this aint like anything, Converts 20% of dmg 2 MP... and Btw 1st and 2nd would be koening and ares's...
And you can have too Much vit on this so those who stack alot of bit normaly do it for the def bonus since vit has it's limit on reducen max dmg since most mobs can't break a sertain limit..... Also like 2 add haven def also reduce's ur hate losse Not directly but getting hit=hate loss getting hit for 3dmg=less hate losse than getting hit for 100dmg.
Averge Set up would use:
Def, HP and Enmity
Cover Effect on this aint like anything, Converts 20% of dmg 2 MP... and Btw 1st and 2nd would be koening and ares's...
And you can have too Much vit on this so those who stack alot of bit normaly do it for the def bonus since vit has it's limit on reducen max dmg since most mobs can't break a sertain limit..... Also like 2 add haven def also reduce's ur hate losse Not directly but getting hit=hate loss getting hit for 3dmg=less hate losse than getting hit for 100dmg.
Averge Set up would use:
Def, HP and Enmity
Knightofdragons wrote:
This is the 3rd/4th Best body Pld can wear extreamly useful very nice gear..
Cover Effect on this aint like anything, Converts 20% of dmg 2 MP... and Btw 1st and 2nd would be koening and ares's...
And you can have too Much vit on this so those who stack alot of bit normaly do it for the def bonus since vit has it's limit on reducen max dmg since most mobs can't break a sertain limit..... Also like 2 add haven def also reduce's ur hate losse Not directly but getting hit=hate loss getting hit for 3dmg=less hate losse than getting hit for 100dmg.
Averge Set up would use:
Def, HP and Enmity
Cover Effect on this aint like anything, Converts 20% of dmg 2 MP... and Btw 1st and 2nd would be koening and ares's...
And you can have too Much vit on this so those who stack alot of bit normaly do it for the def bonus since vit has it's limit on reducen max dmg since most mobs can't break a sertain limit..... Also like 2 add haven def also reduce's ur hate losse Not directly but getting hit=hate loss getting hit for 3dmg=less hate losse than getting hit for 100dmg.
Averge Set up would use:
Def, HP and Enmity
"So if PLD get hit for 20 damage like 10 damage when DEF is up, is 10 damage like 20 damage when PLD have VIT off koenig body? Or is 30 damage like 10 damage when PLD get hit?"
Seriously, you're an Idiot. Please GTFO and never play PLD. The only body piece better than Valor Surcoat is most likely Hydra Haubert. Koenig body is nothing but a "Once in awhile" Situation piece which is medicore at best. Ares is decent but Valor is still much better. Also Valhalla Breastplate would be up there but with the slow effect it is bad for /NIN tanking. Also your spelling is horrible, only showing you are indeed A moron. You are most likely one of those Adaman wearing moron PLD's who think's they know sh*t about sh*t they don't know about, and can't put together one complete sentence. So once again PLEASE GTFO.
To anyone looking at this beautiful body piece. Untill you get Hydra Haubert this is the best "All around" body piece you can get, with Ares falling in 2nd then Valhalla then way down the line Koenig body.
Edited, Oct 19th 2007 5:38pm by SeriousBusiness
FlixEffect, Finally telling the truth for once wrote:
Sorry, I'm to dumb, can you translate that?
I think this pieces looks the coolest.
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Lol what the @#%^ are you going on about?
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When used properly, the Cover effect makes a big difference in many end-game scenarios. Extra HP, DEF and enmity is more important to a PLD than 4 VIT. If you manage to get the the AF2 body, you can permanently stow away your Gallant Surcoat.
Scholar
23 posts
JP have been running around with these for years in huge numbers. Sometimes I wonder how they get so many. Thus far I have seen 4 NA on our server with one (maybe we're just really really unlucky).
If you are at the stage where you can do dynamis and wear the artifacts there, you should know that VIT isn't as important endgame. The enmity, HP, and solid DEF more than outshines the 4 measly VIT on the Gallant.
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do the big pain in the butt and get a gallant surcoat +1,
#Raidan,
Posted: Mar 30 2006 at 12:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Im not a big fan of this set most of the set doesnt give you any vitality although teh hp is nice but id prefer 20 vit to 100-200 hp cause in the long run that vit is gonna help you out more although intrested on thoughts
+Vit is good, but IMO, this has *most other armor sets beat for most purposes ( and don't include Koenig when I when I say *most)
Why? Well here's what you get....
Valor Surcoat:
+4 Emnity, +3 Dex +23 Hp, Enhances Cover
Valor Corronet
+3 Emnity, +10 Healing Magic, +18 Hp,Enhances Rampart
Valor Leggins
+1 Emnity, +3 Mind, +18 Hp, Enhances Sentinel
Valor Breeches
+3 Eminty, +5 Str, +18 Hp,10% Magic Interruption Down
Valor Gauntlets
+3 Emnity, +5 Vit, +18 Hp,Enhances Shield Bash
That's +16 Emnity, +5 Vit, +5 Str, +3 Dex, +3 Mind, +55 Hp, and a hell of a lot of ehnancements, which may make or break a tank.
No, not +Vit Heavy, but I just unequipped Body, Hands, Legs, Feet, and Head, and have +21 Vit. +Vit isn't hard to come by as a Pld. Equipment that gives both Emnity and makes you well rounded is hard to come by.
Edited, Mon May 1 21:11:14 2006
Why? Well here's what you get....
Valor Surcoat:
+4 Emnity, +3 Dex +23 Hp, Enhances Cover
Valor Corronet
+3 Emnity, +10 Healing Magic, +18 Hp,Enhances Rampart
Valor Leggins
+1 Emnity, +3 Mind, +18 Hp, Enhances Sentinel
Valor Breeches
+3 Eminty, +5 Str, +18 Hp,10% Magic Interruption Down
Valor Gauntlets
+3 Emnity, +5 Vit, +18 Hp,Enhances Shield Bash
That's +16 Emnity, +5 Vit, +5 Str, +3 Dex, +3 Mind, +55 Hp, and a hell of a lot of ehnancements, which may make or break a tank.
No, not +Vit Heavy, but I just unequipped Body, Hands, Legs, Feet, and Head, and have +21 Vit. +Vit isn't hard to come by as a Pld. Equipment that gives both Emnity and makes you well rounded is hard to come by.
Edited, Mon May 1 21:11:14 2006
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Titan
75 Pld/(War Nin Whm)
Merits = 33
Koenig 2/5 AFv2 3/5 {Suppanomimi} {Sattva Ring} {Ethereal Earring}
Titan
75 Pld/(War Nin Whm)
Merits = 33
Koenig 2/5 AFv2 3/5 {Suppanomimi} {Sattva Ring} {Ethereal Earring}
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As a paladin you whould want to wear your Vit+ gear over anything else first. This set if desinged to keep a well rounded paladin with Enmity bonus. If your in a party where your not losing hate with the gear you have then stick with it, but if you losing hate from a nuke happy blk or ws hungry mnk, then changing to some of your afv2 gear is a good option to help keep your hate.
Edited, Tue Apr 4 02:47:50 2006
Edited, Tue Apr 4 02:47:50 2006
31 posts
could as well do the best : Koenig head, homam hands, valor body, crimson legs or adaman/gem, gallant+1 feet :) no need to wear full set
full set of koenig gives lot of HP a def vit good for HNM bad for xp pty
full set of koenig gives lot of HP a def vit good for HNM bad for xp pty
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I just recently got mine. It is awesome. When doing a Sea run, I was recovering about 100 MP every 3 minutes by covering the Ninja in my alliance. ^^
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Very happy to be doing dynamis runs for a half year now, and to finally get this drop. I'm now 4/5 with Valor, only missing the legs from the Glaciar. The Paladin NM in dynamis has droped only 2 Valor Surcoats in the over 20 runs I think we had. I never seen a regular mob drop this. This is a very rare drop, very rare. To actully see it drop is worth the SS. Yes, I think this gear is great. It's not Koenig or kaiser, but this is a good hate piece for the party setup.
Some notes to take, the Defense:51 is actully a in game typo, this actully gives +55 defense when worn. Aslo the MP restore works when you Cover somobody who has hate. It will restore 25% mp to the total of damage taken doing cover. (Example whould be if I take 100 points in damage, I regain 25 MP.) Just for kicks I covered a ninja who was tanking whitemage af3 nm, I seen my MP jump from 209 to 240 and that is a nice bonus in my book.
"Edit: In a future dynamis run I used "Cover" on our other paladin who was getting hit from a mobs 100 fists, my MP shot to full from the "Cover". Man thats just sweet lol."
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Edited, Wed Feb 1 23:18:24 2006
Some notes to take, the Defense:51 is actully a in game typo, this actully gives +55 defense when worn. Aslo the MP restore works when you Cover somobody who has hate. It will restore 25% mp to the total of damage taken doing cover. (Example whould be if I take 100 points in damage, I regain 25 MP.) Just for kicks I covered a ninja who was tanking whitemage af3 nm, I seen my MP jump from 209 to 240 and that is a nice bonus in my book.
"Edit: In a future dynamis run I used "Cover" on our other paladin who was getting hit from a mobs 100 fists, my MP shot to full from the "Cover". Man thats just sweet lol."
Aeron of Remora, Cooking:102+
Edited, Wed Feb 1 23:18:24 2006
This armor is godly for exp if you've got a good set up. Managed to pull in about 6.5k an hour on this doing weapons in sky.
Overall it's got my approval.
Overall it's got my approval.
I don't play no mo' games sucka.
So the deal with the mp regen is that you get mp back everytime you get hit while covering someone.
Still damned sexy.
Still damned sexy.
Ive heard that every hit you take regens your mp some, I don't know if its true or not, can anyone confirm?
Scholar
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This Armor is just beautiful.
i saw it only one time on an 75 Elvaan.
i saw it only one time on an 75 Elvaan.
2 posts
Its more beautiful then I could ever imagin! 0.0
Scholar
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Apperently, only three people have these on Bahamut.... and two of these people both are in the same LS <TheOrderOfTheBlueGatr> and they got them both on the same night doing a Dynamis run.. both in a matter if half an hour, pretty lucky..
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kool i seen one of them on bahamut running around im gonna see if i can catch him laterz.
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Would be easier to call it a AFII and leave the quest afs with regular #'s. it doesent matter really people still get the point because there is a huge frikin gap between valor and gallant.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Would be easier to call it a Relic.
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Edited, May 21st 2008 6:19pm by Naterat
Edited, May 21st 2008 6:19pm by Naterat
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Either they did something to the drop rate or Midgarsormr has gotten very lucky recently, we have gone from having 0 on the server to 5 dropping in the last 2 months, I got our LS' second last night O_o I think maybe Midgardsormr has gotten lucky, since some servers still do not have even 1?
Chalk another up for your LS tonight, Nevi XD
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Job - 75RDM / 61BLM / 39DRK / 37WHM
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Job - 75RDM / 61BLM / 39DRK / 37WHM
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who really cares if it is relic or AF2 its still awesome :p
don't mess with me..... i bite.....
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I seen this armor in my remora server
the only mob who drop this is DL ??
i will never see it on asura lol even the most powerfuls of the server got raped
i will never see it on asura lol even the most powerfuls of the server got raped
Eladamri on Asura
My job and lvl ? why do you want to know ?
I won´t say it : /anon
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My job and lvl ? why do you want to know ?
I won´t say it : /anon
Thank you for reading my post
No, any of the "normal" Kindred Demons in Dynamis Xarcbard can drop it, and the Paladin type Demon NM Marquis Sabnak will only drop this, no other type of AF2. It is rare as stink though. There is only one on Midgardsormr, belonging to Nohl, a JP.
Dynamis Lord is supposed to drop shadow mantle and shadow ring occasionally, and supposedly he sometimes drops a 100 piece of currency or a 10,000 piece of currency.
Dynamis Lord is supposed to drop shadow mantle and shadow ring occasionally, and supposedly he sometimes drops a 100 piece of currency or a 10,000 piece of currency.
#Lusiot,
Posted: Feb 22 2005 at 8:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Its RELIC armor guys... not AF2... if I was to say AF2 in say Jeuno... Someone would help me out on my... what AF gloves...
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Actually it is AF2 not relic! There is no such thing as relic armor. Just relic weapons. AF2 is the second set of Artifact armor, AF-2 (note the DASH) is Paladin's boots (not gloves).
So please, YOU get it right first.
*sigh*
Actually it is AF2 not relic! There is no such thing as relic armor. Just relic weapons. AF2 is the second set of Artifact armor, AF-2 (note the DASH) is Paladin's boots (not gloves).
So please, YOU get it right first.
*sigh*
Bryan//Hume//Kujata//Paladin
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I call Valor and other sets AF2, AF1 boots I call AF boots or gallant boots, abjuration gear I just call either koenig *slot* (i.e. koenig head 0/10 seiryu WTF), or m *slot* (i.e. m head)
God gear usually refers to things like haidate or osode because not all abj's drop off gods.
I find this easiest and people should be able to understand wtf you're talking about..
People need to quit putting labels on everything, it actually makes you look like a noob lol...
I have Valor Hands, 0/2 for surcoat in xarcabard :( We did get to DL with 38 people though... not bad :D
God gear usually refers to things like haidate or osode because not all abj's drop off gods.
I find this easiest and people should be able to understand wtf you're talking about..
People need to quit putting labels on everything, it actually makes you look like a noob lol...
I have Valor Hands, 0/2 for surcoat in xarcabard :( We did get to DL with 38 people though... not bad :D
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it can be called either relic since it is found in dynamis and AF2 because its an upgraded form of your af
k here it is i read it on another post from some HL..
Relic - Gear that is dropped of mobs but can be used on more then one job ie. Koenig
AF-2 - for pld i believe it is the boots
AF2 - for pld the Valor set, but the Valor set is a second set of AF, much better then the first.
Relic - Gear that is dropped of mobs but can be used on more then one job ie. Koenig
AF-2 - for pld i believe it is the boots
AF2 - for pld the Valor set, but the Valor set is a second set of AF, much better then the first.
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Relic is nothing to do with Koenig gear, Koenig is usually called "cursed", "god" or "abjuration" gear.
People sometimes call AF2 gear "Relic" because it drops alongside Relic weapons in Dynamis, convention on my server at least is to call it AF2 though.
People sometimes call AF2 gear "Relic" because it drops alongside Relic weapons in Dynamis, convention on my server at least is to call it AF2 though.
Relic Armor would be the Valor Armor. Anything which comes out of completing Dynamis job specific, is Relic.
Cursed Armor is just that, the Cursed set.
Abjuration goes the same way. It's the Abjurations you recieve from killing certain HNMs like King Behemoth as well as the Gods.
The Koenig Armor is just the outcome of the Cursed Armor combined with Abjuration Armor. It is not Relic.
God Armor is Genbu's Kabuto, Kirin's Osode, Seiryu's Kote, Byakko's Haidate, Suzaku's Sune-ate.
Artifact Armor would be Gallant, and Artifact Armor 2 would be Valor.
AF2 is what people call Valor. It's just a way people abbreviate it since it's identical to AF but the 2'nd set they get.
*Edit* Spelling
Edited, Thu May 5 13:00:49 2005
Cursed Armor is just that, the Cursed set.
Abjuration goes the same way. It's the Abjurations you recieve from killing certain HNMs like King Behemoth as well as the Gods.
The Koenig Armor is just the outcome of the Cursed Armor combined with Abjuration Armor. It is not Relic.
God Armor is Genbu's Kabuto, Kirin's Osode, Seiryu's Kote, Byakko's Haidate, Suzaku's Sune-ate.
Artifact Armor would be Gallant, and Artifact Armor 2 would be Valor.
AF2 is what people call Valor. It's just a way people abbreviate it since it's identical to AF but the 2'nd set they get.
*Edit* Spelling
Edited, Thu May 5 13:00:49 2005
LMAO! my god only xModeratorx got it right. the previous posts are very much off. thank xModeratorx for clearing it up for you guys. AF2 is what ppl call it, but Relic is the correct named for it.
Edited, Sat May 7 16:59:32 2005
Edited, Sat May 7 16:59:32 2005
Different servers/LS/nationalities have different conventions for naming, and none of this stuff except AF1 is specifically given category names in the game. Cursed/Abjuration gear is sometimes called "god" gear, especially in Japan, because it all drops from god HNMs, be it sky gods or land gods. Relic is only used by most people when talking about Dynamis weapons, not AF2. Little point insisting it is called something since there is no "official" category name.
Edited, Mon May 16 14:21:59 2005
Edited, Mon May 16 14:21:59 2005
who cares if it's relic or AF2. it's still really good.
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Server: Lakshmi
Jobs: 75 PLD, 75 BRD, 39 WHM, 40 BST
LS: Slaughterhouse, Ancientsawakened, ToTheEnd
Spirit Taker aquired on: 10/8/05
Smithing: lvl 66, Smithy's Mitts aquired: 3/27/06
Level 75 Paladin aquired on 7/22/06, 10:04 P.M
Level 75 Bard aquired on 3/31/08 10:54 P.M
Server: Lakshmi
Jobs: 75 PLD, 75 BRD, 39 WHM, 40 BST
LS: Slaughterhouse, Ancientsawakened, ToTheEnd
Spirit Taker aquired on: 10/8/05
Smithing: lvl 66, Smithy's Mitts aquired: 3/27/06
Level 75 Paladin aquired on 7/22/06, 10:04 P.M
Level 75 Bard aquired on 3/31/08 10:54 P.M
Scholar
28 posts
I think all you guys should go read the POL website, that specifically calls it "relic armor"
on one of the main updates when they 1st added Relic Armor +1 SE directly called it Relic Armor therefore it's is offically RELIC armor.
lets not even going by the dynamis story the armor's and weapons are items that were from the 3 nations soilders in the crystal war.
lets not even going by the dynamis story the armor's and weapons are items that were from the 3 nations soilders in the crystal war.
Scholar
28 posts
grr double post
Edited, Wed Feb 23 01:57:08 2005
Edited, Wed Feb 23 01:57:08 2005
Bryan//Hume//Kujata//Paladin
The way the enhanced cover on this works is when the PLD's getting hit while covering they still take damage but it converts the damage into some MP.
One of the PLD's in my LS got this and when we did sewer syrup last night he covered a BLM and each time he was hit he received 20 mp while covering, with gallant coronet and valor surcoat on.
One of the PLD's in my LS got this and when we did sewer syrup last night he covered a BLM and each time he was hit he received 20 mp while covering, with gallant coronet and valor surcoat on.
======== talus =========
Kujata | LS: JourneysEnd
MNK/RDM/PLD/BRD/SAM/NIN/BLM/THF75
next: DRG62/WHM59
AL: 60 BS: 60
BO: 56 CK: 60
CL: 60 FS: 31
GS: 56 LT: 100+3
Title: Paragon of Dragoon Excellence
Kujata | LS: JourneysEnd
MNK/RDM/PLD/BRD/SAM/NIN/BLM/THF75
next: DRG62/WHM59
AL: 60 BS: 60
BO: 56 CK: 60
CL: 60 FS: 31
GS: 56 LT: 100+3
Title: Paragon of Dragoon Excellence
Ask him to test it without the gallant coronet on, as the enhancement on that is what converts the damage to MP I believe?
Enhances "Cover" effect allegedly makes the PLD invincibled to all covered damage, it will hit for 0, it is not the same as "Cover+1" on Save the Queen which makes cover last longer. Just like the third eye enhancing AF2 for SAM makes third eye do counterstance, it does not make it last longer.
That in itself causes a problem, say you use it to cover a BLM who has pulled hate off a big burst, you count as taking 0 damage on behalf of the BLM, the BLM looses no hate from damage inflicted by the mob, they are dependent on you to do some ability or something to get hate back before your cover wears off.
Also, this dissapointing piece stat wise, the AF1 body is better for almost every situation with VIT+4 and HP+20. Basically it would be cool to use it in combination with STQ in an exp party, but not many over situations =T This piece still looks wonderful though, any PLD would give their back teeth for one :)
Edited, Thu Feb 10 03:35:40 2005
That in itself causes a problem, say you use it to cover a BLM who has pulled hate off a big burst, you count as taking 0 damage on behalf of the BLM, the BLM looses no hate from damage inflicted by the mob, they are dependent on you to do some ability or something to get hate back before your cover wears off.
Also, this dissapointing piece stat wise, the AF1 body is better for almost every situation with VIT+4 and HP+20. Basically it would be cool to use it in combination with STQ in an exp party, but not many over situations =T This piece still looks wonderful though, any PLD would give their back teeth for one :)
Edited, Thu Feb 10 03:35:40 2005
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Actually, if you're Covering and getting hit, YOU lose the hate from damage, not the person that you're Covering.
Scholar
16 posts
for pictures of AF and AF2..
AF: http://dc1.dawsoncollege.qc.ca/~A332886/
AF2: http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Bay/2740/ff_kihon_af2.html
AF: http://dc1.dawsoncollege.qc.ca/~A332886/
AF2: http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Bay/2740/ff_kihon_af2.html
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ok for the site that was mentioned they are in the order they are in the strat guide if tht helps. except the last ones are a bit out of order i think. the orange 1 at the end is not mnk it is nin mnk is the 2nd 1. and instead of plds lining on their af being red it is black
Dynamis Drop. Valor Surcoat drops in Dynamis Xarcabard.
Drops in dynamis are based on which dynamis. EG blm gloves, drk gloves, etc etc all drop in dynamis windurst.
Catch is, relic drops are very very rare. As for this one, the body for pld, it drops in Dynamis Xarcabard.
Dynamis Xarcabard is infinitely tougher than any dynamis before it, every pull of a statue can bring 4 eyes, which pop 2-3 demons each. Every demon is much harder than IT to 75 mob. NM type demons take multiple alliances to kill. And usually there is much re-raising to be done after wipeouts (which are common).
Normal Dynamis have been known to wipe out NA LS of 50-60+ people. However this is the learning curve, since you need skilled pullers (usually bst) to kite the mobs that pop after you pull a statue. And then there's the repop mobs that will materialize later, as well as an influx of repops after the main boss for the area is killed.
i'm just rushing and breaking down bits of info, but like someone else said before, when you're high enough and have an Ls to do dynamis with, then you'll understand.
Drops in dynamis are based on which dynamis. EG blm gloves, drk gloves, etc etc all drop in dynamis windurst.
Catch is, relic drops are very very rare. As for this one, the body for pld, it drops in Dynamis Xarcabard.
Dynamis Xarcabard is infinitely tougher than any dynamis before it, every pull of a statue can bring 4 eyes, which pop 2-3 demons each. Every demon is much harder than IT to 75 mob. NM type demons take multiple alliances to kill. And usually there is much re-raising to be done after wipeouts (which are common).
Normal Dynamis have been known to wipe out NA LS of 50-60+ people. However this is the learning curve, since you need skilled pullers (usually bst) to kite the mobs that pop after you pull a statue. And then there's the repop mobs that will materialize later, as well as an influx of repops after the main boss for the area is killed.
i'm just rushing and breaking down bits of info, but like someone else said before, when you're high enough and have an Ls to do dynamis with, then you'll understand.
Apocalypse
75DRK . 37THF . 38WAR . 37SAM . 37NIN . 25WHM . 18MNK . 17BLM . 16SMN - [Rank 10]
Leader of Doom - Odin
#46 Member of ZORINSOUL - Odin
[63 Alchemy - 60 Cooking - 50 Goldsmithing - 20 Smithing]
Relic Armor: 2/5
Quest WS mastered: Scythe, Greatsword, Sword
75DRK . 37THF . 38WAR . 37SAM . 37NIN . 25WHM . 18MNK . 17BLM . 16SMN - [Rank 10]
Leader of Doom - Odin
#46 Member of ZORINSOUL - Odin
[63 Alchemy - 60 Cooking - 50 Goldsmithing - 20 Smithing]
Relic Armor: 2/5
Quest WS mastered: Scythe, Greatsword, Sword
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Sounds like this is really hard. but its a must have for me. sounds like hell but looks so cool.
deadnamis here i come =P
Rahab seraph server 63pld 31war Ls pharohsknights/
groundzero
Edited, Fri Dec 3 16:07:36 2004
deadnamis here i come =P
Rahab seraph server 63pld 31war Ls pharohsknights/
groundzero
Edited, Fri Dec 3 16:07:36 2004
Anonymous
I sent in a pic of it.
PLD AF2 is so much better then the AF1.
WOW is all i have to say, The AF 2 looks badass, i am miles away but wow i cant wait.
Genas
paladin 52/26
Server-Odin
Rank 5
paladin 52/26
Server-Odin
Rank 5
the 2nd to last one is Summoner (all brown)the last one (the brown armor) is new and the purpleish pink magenta whm AF2 lookin 1 is new
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Thesinner - Seraph Server - 103 Merits
San D'oria - Hume 75 rdm/37 blm. 75sam 41 rng, 37 war, 37 Drk, 37 nin, 37 thf, 30 brd, 37 whm, 13 Bst, 10 smn. 100+2 Alchemy, 60 Cooking. 53+1 gold, 23 WW, 20 Smith. Crimson 2/5. Zenith 3/5, Duelist 3/5.
Thesinner - Seraph Server - 103 Merits
San D'oria - Hume 75 rdm/37 blm. 75sam 41 rng, 37 war, 37 Drk, 37 nin, 37 thf, 30 brd, 37 whm, 13 Bst, 10 smn. 100+2 Alchemy, 60 Cooking. 53+1 gold, 23 WW, 20 Smith. Crimson 2/5. Zenith 3/5, Duelist 3/5.
Nope. Summoner AF2 would have a horn; the summoner AF is the one just above the all brown. The last two are new. The second to last is possibly time mage (if it were to be blue mage, the armor would likely be blue), but that last one...I have no clue.
Edited, Mon Aug 16 20:02:39 2004
Edited, Mon Aug 16 20:02:39 2004
The second to last one is SMN gear...the Austere set. It's a step above the SMN AF, but a step below AF2. I see a ton of people on Leviathan with that stuff, either equiped or for sell. But that last set of armor...could that have been GM gear? Or...a new job?
How do you get the relic armor? It makes sense that you'd have to accept a quest for it...but one guy that posted here says it's a drop. ok
1)HAVING THIS AS A DROP SEEMS DOWNRIGHT TOO EASY!
2)Not that if it was too easy i'd be mad
3)If it only a drop from a NM that you killafter accepting a quest where do you accept the quests?
4)If #3 is correct where do you accept the quests for the other relic armor?
Thankyou in advance if you read this and respond.
Edited, Thu Jun 17 18:21:14 2004
1)HAVING THIS AS A DROP SEEMS DOWNRIGHT TOO EASY!
2)Not that if it was too easy i'd be mad
3)If it only a drop from a NM that you killafter accepting a quest where do you accept the quests?
4)If #3 is correct where do you accept the quests for the other relic armor?
Thankyou in advance if you read this and respond.
Edited, Thu Jun 17 18:21:14 2004
Jamuset-Level 75 Paladin/Warrior, Asura. Smithing: level 45
Currently working on: Smithing. Gil, and EXP.
Currently working on: Smithing. Gil, and EXP.
45 posts
Ok here's how it is..
You look at the various monsters that drops it.
Then you complet the necessary things to get in dynamis.
Then you fight the mob and it drops the item
It seems easy
but dynamis is ******* hard to fight in
mobs there link and are tough
You look at the various monsters that drops it.
Then you complet the necessary things to get in dynamis.
Then you fight the mob and it drops the item
It seems easy
but dynamis is ******* hard to fight in
mobs there link and are tough
mmm-hmmmm, i see thank you, question though
(i don't expect anyone to know ALL of these, just saying):
1)Where can i see what monsters drop it?
2)My info on getting into Dynamis is sketchy (I just barely get the gist of it)
3) whas that the right way to spell "gist"?
4)I wanna get all the relic(2nd af set) armor 4 paladin uncluding excalibur, relic swd dropps in Windy dynamis, but u gotta go to bastok dynamis at some point to upgrade it (I think, agian info is sketchy) ans i think some pal relic armor drops in Bastok dynamis.....SOMONE CLEAR THIS UP FOR ME!!!!!
(i don't expect anyone to know ALL of these, just saying):
1)Where can i see what monsters drop it?
2)My info on getting into Dynamis is sketchy (I just barely get the gist of it)
3) whas that the right way to spell "gist"?
4)I wanna get all the relic(2nd af set) armor 4 paladin uncluding excalibur, relic swd dropps in Windy dynamis, but u gotta go to bastok dynamis at some point to upgrade it (I think, agian info is sketchy) ans i think some pal relic armor drops in Bastok dynamis.....SOMONE CLEAR THIS UP FOR ME!!!!!
Jamuset-Level 75 Paladin/Warrior, Asura. Smithing: level 45
Currently working on: Smithing. Gil, and EXP.
Currently working on: Smithing. Gil, and EXP.
Shut up already, by the time you're high enough level to do this, and have the linkshell to do it, you'll know how to do it.
gee, that was rude, i just don't wanna run in there and do something stupid
Jamuset-Level 75 Paladin/Warrior, Asura. Smithing: level 45
Currently working on: Smithing. Gil, and EXP.
Currently working on: Smithing. Gil, and EXP.
This is a drop, and yeah, sure it seems easy. Wait til your first SMN Astral Flow that kills 64 members of a dynamis, then you can say its easy. Not only that but AF2 drops are random. So if your AF and 13 other jobs' AF drops in there and 1 AF piece drops there's a 1/13 chance it'll be the one you want. THEN, you have to concider how many other jobs are there that want the same item as you. PLDs, RDMs, and BLMs are always needed in Dynamis no matter what. Figure AT LEAST 6 PLDs in a dynamis, 5 of which will lot against you. So tell me then, is it easy to obtain this?
I have done over 20 dynamises now, and I was lucky enough to win a lot on a Valor Coronet. That is the first Valor Coronet i have ever seen drop out of 5 times in Dynamis Bastok. I have yet to see the Valor Leggings (boots) drop from Windy, and I have seen 2 Valor Gauntlets Drop, of which I won neither. I haven't made it to Beaucedine yet, but I would imagine that it is incredibly difficult there, as we haven't even been able to defeat Windy yet. (Dynamis Windy is the hardest of the 4 you must beat to go to Beaucedine. You must then beat Beaucedine to go to Xarcbard. One thing many of you may not know, is that Dynamis is the pinnacle of the storyline of the game. Dynamis is all about the return of the shadowlord. After beating Dynamis Xarcbard, you will get a very long, explanitory cutscene tying all of the storyline, missions, Zilart, all are wrapped up and revealed there. (This was told to me by my PLD friend who tagged along with a JP Dynamis LS on shiva. He said they have done Xarcbard so many times, they made it look easy. He also said that all 64 people died 2 times, everyone recovered and in less than 10 minutes they were fighting again.)
Anyway, Valor gear is in no way, shape or form, easy. If you see any PLD with any AF2 you should know, they know their stuff, /salute. You see a PLD in FULL AF2... well... that just deserves a /kneel.
Note: Valor armor is not the best for tanking HNMs, etc. It id designeed to make a well rounded PLD. Valor gear would be the best EXP gear ever... sadly there is no EXP after 75.
But IN MY OPINION, it is far more challenging to get full AF2, than it ever would be to get full koenig. HMNs are easy compared to dynamis... a good steady Dynamis team would OWN any HNM (and I dont mean 64 people--most dyanmis teams have about 18-30 who are the team, and they pick up the other players here and there.) But dynamis takes alot more teamwork and strategy than an HNM ever would. On the flipside, I've seen HNMlses get DESTROYED at dynamis.
So this is a description of what you need to do to obtain AF2... hope it was everything you expected, and I hope I did it some justice. And I apologize for those who were too rude to explain something to someone seeking knowledge, and instead flamed them for asking relavant questions to a topic.
Good luck to all of you who seek the challenge of obtaining this gear.
I have done over 20 dynamises now, and I was lucky enough to win a lot on a Valor Coronet. That is the first Valor Coronet i have ever seen drop out of 5 times in Dynamis Bastok. I have yet to see the Valor Leggings (boots) drop from Windy, and I have seen 2 Valor Gauntlets Drop, of which I won neither. I haven't made it to Beaucedine yet, but I would imagine that it is incredibly difficult there, as we haven't even been able to defeat Windy yet. (Dynamis Windy is the hardest of the 4 you must beat to go to Beaucedine. You must then beat Beaucedine to go to Xarcbard. One thing many of you may not know, is that Dynamis is the pinnacle of the storyline of the game. Dynamis is all about the return of the shadowlord. After beating Dynamis Xarcbard, you will get a very long, explanitory cutscene tying all of the storyline, missions, Zilart, all are wrapped up and revealed there. (This was told to me by my PLD friend who tagged along with a JP Dynamis LS on shiva. He said they have done Xarcbard so many times, they made it look easy. He also said that all 64 people died 2 times, everyone recovered and in less than 10 minutes they were fighting again.)
Anyway, Valor gear is in no way, shape or form, easy. If you see any PLD with any AF2 you should know, they know their stuff, /salute. You see a PLD in FULL AF2... well... that just deserves a /kneel.
Note: Valor armor is not the best for tanking HNMs, etc. It id designeed to make a well rounded PLD. Valor gear would be the best EXP gear ever... sadly there is no EXP after 75.
But IN MY OPINION, it is far more challenging to get full AF2, than it ever would be to get full koenig. HMNs are easy compared to dynamis... a good steady Dynamis team would OWN any HNM (and I dont mean 64 people--most dyanmis teams have about 18-30 who are the team, and they pick up the other players here and there.) But dynamis takes alot more teamwork and strategy than an HNM ever would. On the flipside, I've seen HNMlses get DESTROYED at dynamis.
So this is a description of what you need to do to obtain AF2... hope it was everything you expected, and I hope I did it some justice. And I apologize for those who were too rude to explain something to someone seeking knowledge, and instead flamed them for asking relavant questions to a topic.
Good luck to all of you who seek the challenge of obtaining this gear.
Updates:
I now have all 3 city AF2 Drops: Valor Leggings (Windurst), Valor Gauntlets (San d'Oria), and Valor Coronet (Bastok), I also picked up a RNG AF2 Cap from Jeuno, because no one needed it. So I'm leveling RNG to 75 now <.<;
I also Have completed the first 3 stages of the Relic Sword, so now, I have the Dynamis Sword, and I just need the Attestation of Glory from Dynamis-Beaucedine. Then I *think* I'll be able to do the 'Knights of Round* Weapon Skill in Dynamis. (but there is rumor that you need like 100 L. Jadeshells to upgrade it after the Attestation of glory is obtained)
Anyway, I'm not sure if I made it clear before, but AF drops in dynamis are totally random, and can drop from anything, and also from my extensive dynamis experiences, TH doesn't seem to have any effect on dynamis AF2 drops, however, what DOES seem to affect the drops, is if the runs have been done recently...
Say... you enter right after another group exits, it seems that very little AF drops... BUT, if you enter a Dynmais that has not been attended in a few weeks, drops seem to fall from the sky. The MOST number of drops I have ever seen in dynamis was 11 from dynamis bastok: 2PLD AF2, 2BLM AF2, 2BST AF2, 2 SAM AF2, DRK AF2, RDM AF2, THF AF2. Least AF drops from dynamis: 0AF2 I dunno how many times that has happened.
Anyway, g/l at dynamis!
I now have all 3 city AF2 Drops: Valor Leggings (Windurst), Valor Gauntlets (San d'Oria), and Valor Coronet (Bastok), I also picked up a RNG AF2 Cap from Jeuno, because no one needed it. So I'm leveling RNG to 75 now <.<;
I also Have completed the first 3 stages of the Relic Sword, so now, I have the Dynamis Sword, and I just need the Attestation of Glory from Dynamis-Beaucedine. Then I *think* I'll be able to do the 'Knights of Round* Weapon Skill in Dynamis. (but there is rumor that you need like 100 L. Jadeshells to upgrade it after the Attestation of glory is obtained)
Anyway, I'm not sure if I made it clear before, but AF drops in dynamis are totally random, and can drop from anything, and also from my extensive dynamis experiences, TH doesn't seem to have any effect on dynamis AF2 drops, however, what DOES seem to affect the drops, is if the runs have been done recently...
Say... you enter right after another group exits, it seems that very little AF drops... BUT, if you enter a Dynmais that has not been attended in a few weeks, drops seem to fall from the sky. The MOST number of drops I have ever seen in dynamis was 11 from dynamis bastok: 2PLD AF2, 2BLM AF2, 2BST AF2, 2 SAM AF2, DRK AF2, RDM AF2, THF AF2. Least AF drops from dynamis: 0AF2 I dunno how many times that has happened.
Anyway, g/l at dynamis!
2 posts
I'm getting closer and closer to level 75, I can't wait to get the PLD Relic Armor, though i'm sure the quests for it will be a pain.
Shenshi
PLD48/WAR24
Pandemonium Server
PLD48/WAR24
Pandemonium Server
This is a Dynamis drop, meaning you need to lot against potentially any other Paladins who join you in that Dynamis. This isn't a standard quest and I would easily say getting a full suit of Relic is INCREDIBLY time consuming.
36 posts
You can see screenshots of all the AF2 (or Relic Armor) here at this website...
http://www.geocities.jp/ffxisoubi/
http://www.geocities.jp/ffxisoubi/
Thank you so much PLD AF2 Looks Awesome!!! I'm sooo excited... ^^
What are the last two armors at the bottom of that page? This whole page looks like a server rip, so are they AF2 for new jobs unreleased?
The two armors at the bottom, if you're talking about the brown and red, are the Austere set ( SMN only armor, not AF)and the Scorpion armor.
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Hmmmm, i do not speak japanese/chinese or whatever that was, however, some of the armor there (like Darknight, and Samurai) look just like the artifact armor, but then there is armor there like pal relic, and dagoon relic that are obviously diffrent, so um, could some1 clear this up 4 me?
Jamuset-Level 75 Paladin/Warrior, Asura. Smithing: level 45
Currently working on: Smithing. Gil, and EXP.
Currently working on: Smithing. Gil, and EXP.
Hmmmm, i do not speak japanese/chinese or whatever that was, however, some of the armor there (like Darknight, and Samurai) look just like the artifact armor, but then there is armor there like pal relic, and dagoon relic that are obviously diffrent, so um, could some1 clear this up 4 me?
Jamuset-Level 75 Paladin/Warrior, Asura. Smithing: level 45
Currently working on: Smithing. Gil, and EXP.
Currently working on: Smithing. Gil, and EXP.
Hmmmm, i do not speak japanese/chinese or whatever that was, however, some of the armor there (like Darknight, and Samurai) look just like the artifact armor, but then there is armor there like pal relic, and dagoon relic that are obviously diffrent, so um, could some1 clear this up 4 me?
Jamuset-Level 75 Paladin/Warrior, Asura. Smithing: level 45
Currently working on: Smithing. Gil, and EXP.
Currently working on: Smithing. Gil, and EXP.
#Quadkiller,
Posted: Jun 17 2004 at 10:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hmmmm, i do not speak japanese/chinese or whatever that was, however, some of the armor there (like Darknight, and Samurai) look just like the artifact armor, but then there is armor there like pal relic, and dagoon relic that are obviously diffrent, so um, could some1 clear this up 4 me?
Scholar
49 posts
None of them look exactly the same, some do look similar though. Those are tiny pictures as well, so it's hard to see them clearly. For much better pictures, and more of them, go here:
http://www.glay.ne.jp/~tarusine/ffss.html
Shouldn't be too hard to navigate without knowing Japanese, I do it all the time. :P They have very large pictures of both a front and back view of the AF1 and AF2 sets for all races, as well as RSE. Open both the AF1 and AF2 pics of the jobs you think look the same and compare them, you'll see a difference.
http://www.glay.ne.jp/~tarusine/ffss.html
Shouldn't be too hard to navigate without knowing Japanese, I do it all the time. :P They have very large pictures of both a front and back view of the AF1 and AF2 sets for all races, as well as RSE. Open both the AF1 and AF2 pics of the jobs you think look the same and compare them, you'll see a difference.
Anyone have a picture or any other info on this item? Any updates would be greatly appreciated.