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Valor Surcoat
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DEF:55 HP+23 DEX+3
Enmity+4
Augments "Cover"
Lv.75 PLD

Augments "Cover"

  • Converts 20% of damage taken from a successful Cover to MP.

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# May 21 2008 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
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# Sep 24 2007 at 1:55 AM Rating: Default
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This is the 3rd/4th Best body Pld can wear extreamly useful very nice gear..
Cover Effect on this aint like anything, Converts 20% of dmg 2 MP... and Btw 1st and 2nd would be koening and ares's...
And you can have too Much vit on this so those who stack alot of bit normaly do it for the def bonus since vit has it's limit on reducen max dmg since most mobs can't break a sertain limit..... Also like 2 add haven def also reduce's ur hate losse Not directly but getting hit=hate loss getting hit for 3dmg=less hate losse than getting hit for 100dmg.
Averge Set up would use:
Def, HP and Enmity
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# Oct 19 2007 at 4:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Knightofdragons wrote:
This is the 3rd/4th Best body Pld can wear extreamly useful very nice gear..
Cover Effect on this aint like anything, Converts 20% of dmg 2 MP... and Btw 1st and 2nd would be koening and ares's...
And you can have too Much vit on this so those who stack alot of bit normaly do it for the def bonus since vit has it's limit on reducen max dmg since most mobs can't break a sertain limit..... Also like 2 add haven def also reduce's ur hate losse Not directly but getting hit=hate loss getting hit for 3dmg=less hate losse than getting hit for 100dmg.
Averge Set up would use:
Def, HP and Enmity


"So if PLD get hit for 20 damage like 10 damage when DEF is up, is 10 damage like 20 damage when PLD have VIT off koenig body? Or is 30 damage like 10 damage when PLD get hit?"

Seriously, you're an Idiot. Please GTFO and never play PLD. The only body piece better than Valor Surcoat is most likely Hydra Haubert. Koenig body is nothing but a "Once in awhile" Situation piece which is medicore at best. Ares is decent but Valor is still much better. Also Valhalla Breastplate would be up there but with the slow effect it is bad for /NIN tanking. Also your spelling is horrible, only showing you are indeed A moron. You are most likely one of those Adaman wearing moron PLD's who think's they know sh*t about sh*t they don't know about, and can't put together one complete sentence. So once again PLEASE GTFO.

To anyone looking at this beautiful body piece. Untill you get Hydra Haubert this is the best "All around" body piece you can get, with Ares falling in 2nd then Valhalla then way down the line Koenig body.


Edited, Oct 19th 2007 5:38pm by SeriousBusiness
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# May 23 2008 at 7:39 PM Rating: Good
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I think this pieces looks the coolest.
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# Sep 25 2007 at 1:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Lol what the **** are you going on about?
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# Dec 18 2006 at 8:38 AM Rating: Decent
When used properly, the Cover effect makes a big difference in many end-game scenarios. Extra HP, DEF and enmity is more important to a PLD than 4 VIT. If you manage to get the the AF2 body, you can permanently stow away your Gallant Surcoat.
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# Nov 22 2006 at 11:19 AM Rating: Decent
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JP have been running around with these for years in huge numbers. Sometimes I wonder how they get so many. Thus far I have seen 4 NA on our server with one (maybe we're just really really unlucky).
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# Jul 07 2006 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
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If you are at the stage where you can do dynamis and wear the artifacts there, you should know that VIT isn't as important endgame. The enmity, HP, and solid DEF more than outshines the 4 measly VIT on the Gallant.
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# May 03 2006 at 5:01 AM Rating: Good
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do the big pain in the **** and get a gallant surcoat +1,
#Raidan, Posted: Mar 30 2006 at 12:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Im not a big fan of this set most of the set doesnt give you any vitality although teh hp is nice but id prefer 20 vit to 100-200 hp cause in the long run that vit is gonna help you out more although intrested on thoughts
RE: not a big fan
# May 01 2006 at 9:16 PM Rating: Default
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+Vit is good, but IMO, this has *most other armor sets beat for most purposes ( and don't include Koenig when I when I say *most)

Why? Well here's what you get....

Valor Surcoat:
+4 Emnity, +3 Dex +23 Hp, Enhances Cover
Valor Corronet
+3 Emnity, +10 Healing Magic, +18 Hp,Enhances Rampart
Valor Leggins
+1 Emnity, +3 Mind, +18 Hp, Enhances Sentinel
Valor Breeches
+3 Eminty, +5 Str, +18 Hp,10% Magic Interruption Down
Valor Gauntlets
+3 Emnity, +5 Vit, +18 Hp,Enhances Shield Bash

That's +16 Emnity, +5 Vit, +5 Str, +3 Dex, +3 Mind, +55 Hp, and a **** of a lot of ehnancements, which may make or break a tank.

No, not +Vit Heavy, but I just unequipped Body, Hands, Legs, Feet, and Head, and have +21 Vit. +Vit isn't hard to come by as a Pld. Equipment that gives both Emnity and makes you well rounded is hard to come by.

Edited, Mon May 1 21:11:14 2006
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RE: not a big fan
# Apr 04 2006 at 1:46 AM Rating: Default
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As a paladin you whould want to wear your Vit+ gear over anything else first. This set if desinged to keep a well rounded paladin with Enmity bonus. If your in a party where your not losing hate with the gear you have then stick with it, but if you losing hate from a nuke happy blk or ws hungry mnk, then changing to some of your afv2 gear is a good option to help keep your hate.

Edited, Tue Apr 4 02:47:50 2006
RE: not a big fan
# Jun 08 2006 at 4:25 PM Rating: Decent
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could as well do the best : Koenig head, homam hands, valor body, crimson legs or adaman/gem, gallant+1 feet :) no need to wear full set

full set of koenig gives lot of HP a def vit good for HNM bad for xp pty
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# Feb 03 2006 at 4:20 PM Rating: Decent
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I just recently got mine. It is awesome. When doing a Sea run, I was recovering about 100 MP every 3 minutes by covering the Ninja in my alliance. ^^
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# Jan 26 2006 at 11:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Very happy to be doing dynamis runs for a half year now, and to finally get this drop. I'm now 4/5 with Valor, only missing the legs from the Glaciar. The Paladin NM in dynamis has droped only 2 Valor Surcoats in the over 20 runs I think we had. I never seen a regular mob drop this. This is a very rare drop, very rare. To actully see it drop is worth the SS. Yes, I think this gear is great. It's not Koenig or kaiser, but this is a good hate piece for the party setup.

Some notes to take, the Defense:51 is actully a in game typo, this actully gives +55 defense when worn. Aslo the MP restore works when you Cover somobody who has hate. It will restore 25% mp to the total of damage taken doing cover. (Example whould be if I take 100 points in damage, I regain 25 MP.) Just for kicks I covered a ninja who was tanking whitemage af3 nm, I seen my MP jump from 209 to 240 and that is a nice bonus in my book.

"Edit: In a future dynamis run I used "Cover" on our other paladin who was getting hit from a mobs 100 fists, my MP shot to full from the "Cover". Man thats just sweet lol."

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Edited, Wed Feb 1 23:18:24 2006
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# Jan 07 2006 at 2:19 AM Rating: Good
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This armor is godly for exp if you've got a good set up. Managed to pull in about 6.5k an hour on this doing weapons in sky.

Overall it's got my approval.
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# Aug 17 2005 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
So the deal with the mp regen is that you get mp back everytime you get hit while covering someone.

Still damned ****.
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# Aug 04 2005 at 6:57 AM Rating: Decent
Ive heard that every hit you take regens your mp some, I don't know if its true or not, can anyone confirm?
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# Jul 13 2005 at 6:38 PM Rating: Decent
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This Armor is just beautiful.
i saw it only one time on an 75 Elvaan.
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# Jul 13 2005 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Its more beautiful then I could ever imagin! 0.0
Only 3
# Jul 12 2005 at 8:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Apperently, only three people have these on Bahamut.... and two of these people both are in the same LS <TheOrderOfTheBlueGatr> and they got them both on the same night doing a Dynamis run.. both in a matter if half an hour, pretty lucky..
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# Nov 21 2005 at 7:46 PM Rating: Decent
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kool i seen one of them on bahamut running around im gonna see if i can catch him laterz.
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# Jun 05 2005 at 1:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Would be easier to call it a AFII and leave the quest afs with regular #'s. it doesent matter really people still get the point because there is a huge frikin gap between valor and gallant.
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# Dec 04 2006 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Would be easier to call it a Relic.
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# May 31 2005 at 7:13 PM Rating: Default
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I got one!
# May 16 2005 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Either they did something to the drop rate or Midgarsormr has gotten very lucky recently, we have gone from having 0 on the server to 5 dropping in the last 2 months, I got our LS' second last night O_o I think maybe Midgardsormr has gotten lucky, since some servers still do not have even 1?
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# Jun 23 2005 at 10:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Chalk another up for your LS tonight, Nevi XD
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# Apr 21 2005 at 4:39 PM Rating: Decent
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who really cares if it is relic or AF2 its still awesome :p
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# Mar 31 2005 at 9:52 AM Rating: Decent
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I seen this armor in my remora server
uh oh
# Mar 24 2005 at 12:28 AM Rating: Default
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the only mob who drop this is DL ??
i will never see it on asura lol even the most powerfuls of the server got raped
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# Apr 13 2005 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
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No, any of the "normal" Kindred Demons in Dynamis Xarcbard can drop it, and the Paladin type Demon NM Marquis Sabnak will only drop this, no other type of AF2. It is rare as stink though. There is only one on Midgardsormr, belonging to Nohl, a JP.

Dynamis Lord is supposed to drop shadow mantle and shadow ring occasionally, and supposedly he sometimes drops a 100 piece of currency or a 10,000 piece of currency.
#Lusiot, Posted: Feb 22 2005 at 8:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Its RELIC armor guys... not AF2... if I was to say AF2 in say Jeuno... Someone would help me out on my... what AF gloves...
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# Feb 23 2005 at 1:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually it is AF2 not relic! There is no such thing as relic armor. Just relic weapons. AF2 is the second set of Artifact armor, AF-2 (note the DASH) is Paladin's boots (not gloves).
So please, YOU get it right first.
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# Apr 09 2006 at 10:38 PM Rating: Decent
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I call Valor and other sets AF2, AF1 boots I call AF boots or gallant boots, abjuration gear I just call either koenig *slot* (i.e. koenig head 0/10 seiryu WTF), or m *slot* (i.e. m head)

God gear usually refers to things like haidate or osode because not all abj's drop off gods.

I find this easiest and people should be able to understand wtf you're talking about..

People need to quit putting labels on everything, it actually makes you look like a noob lol...

I have Valor Hands, 0/2 for surcoat in xarcabard :( We did get to DL with 38 people though... not bad :D
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RE: Relic
# Feb 23 2005 at 1:40 PM Rating: Default
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it can be called either relic since it is found in dynamis and AF2 because its an upgraded form of your af
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# Feb 28 2005 at 11:34 PM Rating: Decent
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k here it is i read it on another post from some HL..
Relic - Gear that is dropped of mobs but can be used on more then one job ie. Koenig

AF-2 - for pld i believe it is the boots

AF2 - for pld the Valor set, but the Valor set is a second set of AF, much better then the first.
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# Mar 17 2005 at 8:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Relic is nothing to do with Koenig gear, Koenig is usually called "cursed", "god" or "abjuration" gear.

People sometimes call AF2 gear "Relic" because it drops alongside Relic weapons in Dynamis, convention on my server at least is to call it AF2 though.
RE: Relic
# May 05 2005 at 11:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Relic Armor would be the Valor Armor. Anything which comes out of completing Dynamis job specific, is Relic.

Cursed Armor is just that, the Cursed set.

Abjuration goes the same way. It's the Abjurations you recieve from killing certain HNMs like King Behemoth as well as the Gods.

The Koenig Armor is just the outcome of the Cursed Armor combined with Abjuration Armor. It is not Relic.

God Armor is Genbu's Kabuto, Kirin's Osode, Seiryu's Kote, Byakko's Haidate, Suzaku's Sune-ate.

Artifact Armor would be Gallant, and Artifact Armor 2 would be Valor.

AF2 is what people call Valor. It's just a way people abbreviate it since it's identical to AF but the 2'nd set they get.

*Edit* Spelling

Edited, Thu May 5 13:00:49 2005
RE: Relic
# May 07 2005 at 3:52 PM Rating: Default
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LMAO! my god only xModeratorx got it right. the previous posts are very much off. thank xModeratorx for clearing it up for you guys. AF2 is what ppl call it, but Relic is the correct named for it.

Edited, Sat May 7 16:59:32 2005
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# May 16 2005 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Different servers/LS/nationalities have different conventions for naming, and none of this stuff except AF1 is specifically given category names in the game. Cursed/Abjuration gear is sometimes called "god" gear, especially in Japan, because it all drops from god HNMs, be it sky gods or land gods. Relic is only used by most people when talking about Dynamis weapons, not AF2. Little point insisting it is called something since there is no "official" category name.

Edited, Mon May 16 14:21:59 2005
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# Sep 23 2005 at 2:10 PM Rating: Decent
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who cares if it's relic or AF2. it's still really good.
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RE: Relic
# Dec 02 2005 at 11:44 AM Rating: Good
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I think all you guys should go read the POL website, that specifically calls it "relic armor"
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# Jun 07 2006 at 11:07 PM Rating: Decent
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on one of the main updates when they 1st added Relic Armor +1 SE directly called it Relic Armor therefore it's is offically RELIC armor.

lets not even going by the dynamis story the armor's and weapons are items that were from the 3 nations soilders in the crystal war.
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# Feb 23 2005 at 1:57 AM Rating: Decent
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grr double post

Edited, Wed Feb 23 01:57:08 2005
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What the coat really does
# Feb 18 2005 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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The way the enhanced cover on this works is when the PLD's getting hit while covering they still take damage but it converts the damage into some MP.

One of the PLD's in my LS got this and when we did sewer syrup last night he covered a BLM and each time he was hit he received 20 mp while covering, with gallant coronet and valor surcoat on.
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RE: What the coat really does
# Feb 20 2005 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Ask him to test it without the gallant coronet on, as the enhancement on that is what converts the damage to MP I believe?
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# Feb 10 2005 at 3:28 AM Rating: Default
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Enhances "Cover" effect allegedly makes the PLD invincibled to all covered damage, it will hit for 0, it is not the same as "Cover+1" on Save the Queen which makes cover last longer. Just like the third eye enhancing AF2 for SAM makes third eye do counterstance, it does not make it last longer.

That in itself causes a problem, say you use it to cover a BLM who has pulled hate off a big burst, you count as taking 0 damage on behalf of the BLM, the BLM looses no hate from damage inflicted by the mob, they are dependent on you to do some ability or something to get hate back before your cover wears off.

Also, this dissapointing piece stat wise, the AF1 body is better for almost every situation with VIT+4 and HP+20. Basically it would be cool to use it in combination with STQ in an exp party, but not many over situations =T This piece still looks wonderful though, any PLD would give their back teeth for one :)

Edited, Thu Feb 10 03:35:40 2005
RE: Cover
# Jun 20 2005 at 7:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Actually, if you're Covering and getting hit, YOU lose the hate from damage, not the person that you're Covering.
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