Now I wana know if you can get this by just doing Ark Angels and is that way easier and what PT setup should I use when doing the fight?? And if you wana do this fight on Ragnarok server send me a /tell
Just turned 70THF and already have this earring. I currently use Genin earring (AGI+4 w/ NIN sub) and a Minuet earring (STR+1 DEX+1 and Minuet: Accuracy +3). Which should I replace to fit in my Suppanomimi when I turn 72? Thanks. :D
I am asking for help. Since my Suppanomimi was dropped. On the steps to take to reget the earring back. Anybody out there wanna provide me with some info or links on what to do. I have already traded light ore to Ro'M spring on full moon light day. What's the next step? Please don't tell me i gotta redo the whole DM fight again? ; ; Thanks Ariah Diabolos
The -deley for this is only -50 when using Dual Wield...it's not too great -.-
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Suppanomimi = 2% haste (an extra 2 hits for every 100 >.>)
Suppa is a 5% reduction in your weapon delay. Because anyone using it already has at least Dual Wield II, that means the absolute least you can get out of it is a 6% swing speed improvement. Swinging 6% faster is better than any other earring for damage output with the exception of a Brutal Earring, which ideally should be on your other ear anyway.
#YourPassenger,
Posted:Jan 28 2007 at 8:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The -deley for this is only -50 when using Dual Wield...it's not too great -.-
You can't really say that this earring is flat out 2% haste because it really depends on other factors. (How many other DW items/traits you have, how much haste you have) It may not seem like the difference is much on paper, but I can really tell a big difference when using this earring + 1 other piece of enhance DW equipment.
I find this earring is more useful to me because it can be used well with any job that DW and I like to play several jobs. Of course there will be players that find better use from the other earrings (I think mostly players that focus on one job), there isn't one that is definitively better than the others, just personal preference.
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I am a War/Nin and always will be. Agi+2 means nothing to me. Sword skill also means nothing as i play Woodville/Juggy. The only thing this does is give me haste +2%, I cant understand why ppl think this is so great. I am actually thinking of getting a beastly earing instead wich will give Axe skill +5. Which would mean more attack and accuracy and complement my maxed out axe merits.
Once u strip down all the stats to what they really mean its like this - Suppanomimi = 2% haste (an extra 2 hits for every 100 >.>) Beastly Earing = +10 attack and accuracy. +5 Evasion aint bad even for solo.
I thought that this earring was so popular because it gave the person wearing it the "Dual Wield" effect. It made sense to me, because one of the main reasons people sub NIN is to use Dual Wield. Utsusemi spells are the other main reason.
But what is the point in having the ~Enhances "Dual Wield" effect~ if it doesn't do anything? So far, from what I can tell, you must have Ninja as your subjob for the effect to even do anything, and even then, it's only like a Delay-2% effect. If you have 250 delay dual wielding, then you will have it reduced to about 245 delay. It's absurd!
Every other item in the game that has ~Enhances "______" effect~ simply GIVES you a weakened version of the effect, even if you don't have it naturally. I have several rings that enhance "Killer" effects, and a couple items which enhance "Fast Cast" effect. I have a cloak that gives me the Samurai ability "Zanshin". Heck, even my Bibiki Seashell makes crabs tremble in terror every 4-6 attacks, so why can't I dual wield while using this earring? Is this some kind of sick joke... or glitch... or is it just some unique item that really has no use other than for NINs, RDMs, and PLDs?
If this is some kind of glitch, and has been fixed, then ignore this. But if it really does only work to give you a tiny amount of attack speed when playing or subbing NIN, then I'm horrified by this earring.
If you sub /nin and wear this earring with sword/shield, do you get the reduction on your sword?
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...why can't I dual wield while using this earring?
All items that say they enhance something do exactly that. Of course, if you can't use that enhancement in a practical way, then it won't mean anything to you...
Here, let me explain:
"Enhances Dual-Wield" does enhance it, but if you aren't nin or /nin, then you don't have the ability to hold 2 weapons so the fact that you would swing faster if you had a weapon in each hand doesn't matter.
"Enhances Fast Cast" does enhance it, but if you can't use magic on your main or sub, then you don't have the ability to cast any spells so the fact that you would cast faster if you were in the process of casting doesn't matter.
"Enhances Aquan Killer" does enhance it, but if you aren't the current target of an attacking Aquan, then you don't have the ability to intimidate what you are fighting so the fact that you would intimidate an Aquan if you were being attacked by it doesn't matter.
When you sub NIN this is a good earring if you want to attack faster. Even if you aren't subbing NIN, each point of Sword Skill adds 1 point of attack and accuracy also. So it's like having an earring that has ATK and ACC +5, or so it is rumored.
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First of all, why the @#%^ did you post this here? Second, you can macro in Byakko's with utsusemi to shorten recast, then macro it back out for the faster attacks from koga. So, no Byakko is not better than Koga. It's all situational.
Many people have told me I should have gotten the bushi for my end game RNG after we won, but I would have to disagree. You can buy an earring with 2 STR, you CAN'T buy and earring which enhances "Dual Wield". The AGI helps as well. ^^
We died first time, killed taru first then mithra, then we wiped, all got back up and almost had galka when nin somehow got to center of circle, he majin gured and wiped us all, lol, next time we kill taru then mithra, then full wipe again lol, galka badass straight out killer, so we got up, killed galka first, then smoked the elvaan and saved the nin for last, and he didnt even majin gure this time sweet, suppanomi cause agi helps pld, but im lvling nin to 75, and bonus good for both jobs, ^^ good luck
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Does this item give you the duel wield ability if nin is not main or sub? Im going to take a wild guess and say no. So why do ppl insist that Enhance fast cast can work if rdm isnt sub or main? You cant enhance something you dont have (ex. 50x0=0). Sorry to go way off track but i figured this would be a good point.
Fast cast boosts work because many jobs can naturally cast magic (also with the use of a support job). However, only Ninja can naturally Dual Wield weapons and this means the trait is not transferred. Any passive effect which doesn't alter how the job plays is granted, but this one is a definete no. Sadly.
I'm sorry but that does not make any sense. There is a good point; that being, why would "Enhances 'Fast Cast' effect" give you the Fast Cast ability if "Enhances 'Dual Wield' effect" does not. Also if "Enhances 'Fast Cast' effect" gives you Fast Cast, then why wouldn't they say "Enhances 'Refresh' effect instead of "Adds 'Refresh' effect?" It just sounds logical to me that inorder to Enhance something you must already have it. In order to gain something you do not already have you must get an item that says "Adds 'Name Of Effect' effect."
#DragonIrons,
Posted:Jul 16 2006 at 11:35 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Go read the posts on Loq. Earring or R Pumps... the enhance fast cast has been tested with and w/o Rdm sub, it DOES work. I've noticed a diff myself on smn just with the R Pumps, so imagine with the Loq earring too. And btw, PLZ stop posting bs if u haven't tested yourself, all you all do is confuse people. >.>
* Additional -0.05 for each equipment that includes "Enhances 'Dual Wield' effect."
Hm...
Fudo (for damage) Hornetneedle Haste March x2 Shinobi Earring (with latent triggered) Shinobi Ring (with latent triggered) Koga Tekko (at night) Ninja Chainmail Koga Hakama Suppanomimi Fuma Sune-ate And any other Haste type stuff you can get your hands on...
That's like 120 delay. @_@;;
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Edit: No one said it had to be practical. XD The earring is supposedly triggered by red HP and less than 100 TP, and the ring is triggered by the same, except yellow HP instead of red. So yeah, it's doable, but I doubt you'd want to use it for an extended period of time, lol. One AoE and goodbye EXP. XD
Since it's nearly impossible to activate that 20% Haste latent, I tried a much more viable combo when I got my earring last week. Senju + Hornetneedle, AF body, Suppanomimi, Fuma Sune-Ate, and I summoned out my boy Zenji to cast Haste on me.
To count that up, that's 15% Haste and 2 Dual Wield upgrades on what's already a 387 delay combo. Take the natural trait modifier, we're down to about 270 delay. Two more mods, about 240. 15% Haste, assuming it doesn't stack from the base value (conservative), brings you down to about 200 delay.
Basically, I didn't stop swinging. Double attacks were even more fun. And that's just with this base gear. Can't wait to get 2 more levels so I can use Haidate =D
Edited, Sun Dec 25 03:27:03 2005
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This earring has a hidden effect that grants you double attack. As rng/nin with this earring equipped I took 3 Dagger swings in one round. It may be that double attack + is the actual enhancement to DW, haven't tested it out using a different subjob yet.
Although this is an item great for any job with a Nin sub, it seems as though it was intended for Rdm/Nin, otherwise I can't see any reason for the Sword +5. This is good support for my fervent belief that Rdm/Nin is a very valid job combo. :)
I don't think was intended for RDM/NIN.
But if this isnt an item that doesnt scream out RDM/NIN USE ME!!! I dont know what does lmao
Frankly, it screams "war/nin" to me as off handing a joyeuse/ridill with say a juggernaut (or even just using ridill/joyeuse like some folks I know) would create ridiculous damage and corresponding hate in a war/nin tank.
though of course, the AGI +2 is kinda just meh.
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Actually, the guy above was the most correct. It's got all the War/Nin stats because of the Ark Angel HM that it comes from (who uses swords). But yeah... anything with Dual Wield at all will benefit from it, I say. Not just one job in particular.
I notice some people wonder about the stats on the arkangel earrings. Each one is based on the jobs/equipment of a specific arkangel. Suppanomimi for example is the ear of the Hume arkangel whos a War/Nin dual weilding 2 swords. The beast earring is from the Mithra whos a Thf/Bst... thusly why it has +5 to Axe and Evasion. They may seem strange, but these earrings are MORE than worth the effort to aquire. I love my Suppanomimi :P
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This translation of this is Suppa's (Ninja's) Ear, if my japanese is right. The picture itself looks like a severed ear also, haha.
The word "Suppa" is a Japanese term deemed for a social class within the society of Ninja in ancient feudal Japan. A member of the Suppa was one who was of the lowest rank in Ninja, and because of such ranking, they were often the first to fight in the frontlines quickly becoming one of the stealthiest deadly agents of espionage and concealment.(Reference)
Ohhh, this is great to know! I always thought it was a katakana form of "Super" (which would really be "Suppaa," two A's, I guess), or "Super Ear." But "Ninja Ear" makes a lot more sense!
Although this is an item great for any job with a Nin sub, it seems as though it was intended for Rdm/Nin, otherwise I can't see any reason for the Sword +5. This is good support for my fervent belief that Rdm/Nin is a very valid job combo. :)
My previous post was made under the assumption that "Enhances Dual Wield Effect" apllies to the trait, whether you have it as a result of sub-job or if it is your main.
For all of you that are hoping to get this earring soon... have fun :) I just got mine last night, but we only won the battle one out of four attempts, so... you will have your work cut out for you - it's a tough fight.
Actually Duel wield 1 only allows you to do exactly that. It does not reduce the delay. Duel wield 2 reduces delay by 15%. As for the rest of the dual wields, i am not sure the deley reduction.
dual wield 1 is plenty useful, gives you the ability to level up 2 weapon types at the same time
Are you saying if I had a sword and a dagger I could level up both of them. So could I use both of the weapon skills like could I use fast blade and wasp sting?
no, you get 6.5% tp for each hit, assuming that each axe has the same delay, as you didn't specify. You'll naturally always look like you get 6 then 7, but that's just because it rounds the displayed value down to the nearest integer. It's the same even without DW, and with like situations in almost any RPG ^^;
This earring is one of the rewards you can pick from after clearing the pentasphere battle (The one with all 5 ark angels at once)... and I'm yet to see proof of it either way or another, but I think this earring can give you dual weild, however, dual weild 1 as you all know is slow, and not incredibly useful, but its still insanely cool..
if an item enhances some ability you have to have the ability for it to enhance it. However, if this earring said "Dual-wield+1" it would actually grant you the dual wield ability
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I think this earring can give you dual weild, however, dual weild 1 as you all know is slow, and not incredibly useful, but its still insanely cool..
this only enhances the dual wield ability if you are Ninja main, or have ninja subbed. the amount of enhancement is unknown at this time, but simple math of the timing differences could give you a general estimate. And for the record, dual wield 1 is plenty useful, gives you the ability to level up 2 weapon types at the same time, allows you to get the bonuses from both weapons, and increased chances for parrying.
Enhances may mean that it adds the effect. This can be proved by looking at the above link and how none of the Jobs that use the Keonig Shield have Beast Killer. Even if they subbed BST, they wouldnt get it... Look at the above link for some proof.
*/dream* PLD/SMN dual weilding Excaliber and Save the Queen going around Valkurm dunes. Me killing Valkurm Emperor and Fenrir killing a Gold Bat... */end dream*
not to mention that if you had those two swords (and the earring), you probably wouldn't bother camping the emperor, and definately wouldn't care about the bat...
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Suppa is just the romanization of 素破, nothing else.
The dual wield is barely noticable, my friend who wore it as NIN tested it with various weapons, with and without haste. It's about a .25 second boost.
You're not seeing it correctly, as you probably don't have the Japanese language installed on your computer. If you do install it, you can see the various Kanji/Kana/Katakana (think I got names right) characters on an English version of Windows when people refer to them with the correct flags (HTML stuff).
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This earring is from a set of earrings awarded from a quest in Ru'Avitau Shrine. Correct me if I'm wrong but I do believe you can only choose one of them upon completion of quest. As of now there is no North American documentation of this quest but all I know is that the starting NPC is named Eve Noiru or Yve'noile at Ru'Avitau Shrine.
i've heard this rumor too, although we probably heard it from the same source (in some way or another). anyway, i'm blm main and want the abysal earring. but then i play rng for fun sometimes and have these wild dreams of having a rng/sam, or rng/war wearing a suppanomimi and duel wielding. I know that i'll never get TWO jobs up to 72 anyway, but I'd like to be able to continue the dream. although i doubt we'll ever know. i mean how many people are going to bother doing this fight twice?? BUT, if i had to speculate, i'd say that you could collect all the earrings. it's only a guess, but you can collect all the items from the avatar fights (correct me if i'm wrong), so why coudln't you get all these? again, this is pure speculation (and very optimistic at that). i wouldn't bet on it when you're picking out your earring.
So in this case what does it mean by Enhancing Dual WIeld effect? is it like dual wield II, II and IV where they increase the attacking speed when carrying 2 weapons? i think thats what it does, and in this case, that would be tight for my thf/nin if i can get it to lvl 72. ill just lose 2 agl but for dual wield effect +20 dual wield effect is worth it. also, where u get it?
suppa, from what I can tell, is derived from supai, which is spy.
so it's a Spy's Ear. Get it? Dual wield = nin, Spy...
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yeah.
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