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DEF:40 MND+4 CHR+4
Evasion-3
Convert HP to MP+50
Lv.73 WHM/BLM/RDM/BRD/SMN

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taru WHM
# Aug 29 2006 at 6:10 PM Rating: Decent
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I want these.. 50 more m/p Cool. My pty will save me not to worry. I hope they Drop soon. I can live with-50 h/p lol Grads to Morgania on here New set This week ^^
lovely pants
# Jul 31 2006 at 1:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I must say these pants are great so summoner!! omg more mp! sweet and indeed if you are to use these pants over AF pants. u do lose the -enmity and avatar accuracy but come on u stand to gain mind and some good def. Go merit your avatar accuracy. Losing the - enmity isnt a bad thing in soloing
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#skillgannoncaitsith, Posted: Mar 16 2006 at 4:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OK who the **** cares what the H stands for jeeez u show ur noobness by opening ur fckn mouths and rate me donw biotch. :P
RE: ok THAS IT!!!!
# Apr 03 2006 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
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Well then...

Well done on shutting up these people... who haven't made an argument concerning this topic since May 2005. And so eloquent, as well.

Good show.
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AF/Errant or Zenith?
# Dec 12 2005 at 1:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I looked into the jobs that could benefit from these and quite honestly they are trash compared to AF and Errant pants. WHMs are better off with JSE, BLMs with Errant, JSE and AF, SMNs AF cannot beat that, BRDs JSE or Errant if they cannot afford the JSE, and there is plenty of stuff for RDM that is more useful than these. Maybe galka mages might find the added MP more helpful but they will be sacrificing a lot of good stats just to get that MP bonus. Definitely not worth wasting the gil.

Edited, Mon Dec 12 00:24:21 2005
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RE: AF/Errant or Zenith?
# Feb 11 2006 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I disagree with you. At least for brd these are the best set of pants from amoung the ones you named.

I lose 3 or4 chr (changing from errant/jse) but gain 50 mp.

Now if you were compairing these to af +1 legs... (+ 8 wind O.O)
RE: AF/Errant or Zenith?
# Dec 12 2005 at 4:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, I'd go with the Errant's as BLM/BST over these.
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#Turdfurgeson, Posted: Sep 10 2005 at 6:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Good choice of pants for BRD also. Especially with MND, CHR, and MP+. On my BRD, I pretty much look for anything that adds CHR and MP.
>.>
# Jul 11 2005 at 6:35 AM Rating: Decent
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got the abjuration. but hahahaha will I ever afford the 3,000,000-4,000,000 to uncurse them? :o nope ;;
Low HP
# Jun 04 2005 at 4:41 PM Rating: Decent
Between these and the rest of the Zenith gear, a Serkets ring, and an astral...


...you better believe you're gunna have some low HP. XD
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RE: Low HP
# Jun 24 2005 at 10:24 PM Rating: Decent
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ROTF...theyll have like 300 hp at level 75 if their taru haha
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Don't forget Rdms.
# Apr 01 2005 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
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These Legs are also good for Red Mages.

The Mind is a needed stat for Rdms who throw out a lot of Paralyze and slow spells, and the MP/HP 50 point swap allows them to come closer to a 1 for 1 convert ratio in HPs to MP.

Thus fewer wasted HP for converts.
RE: Don't forget Rdms.
# Oct 16 2005 at 2:30 AM Rating: Decent
I'm a red mage, I -strongly- disagree with this argument. Just like the astral aspis, the MP boost is great to look at... but ANY red mage worth his salt is macro swapping anyway, and since you should be using elemental staves, the bonus from aspis is lost after convert. The same applies for these pants. 50 MP is very nice for convert, but after the MP is used - the pants are worthless.

If you want MND, use errant. You get 7 MND and -3 Emnity vs 4 and -3 Evasion. These are not worth paying 2-4 million as a red mage to uncurse in most circumstances.
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# Mar 14 2005 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
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These are good for non Taru WHM and is a popular leg equipment for many WHM.

The MND is nice but a pretty useless stat for a WHM who won't be enfeebling to any appreciable degree anyways.

AF2 pants 'Cleric's Pantaloons' is definately better for most WHM who has it, except for maybe Galka's who has the HP to spare and wouldn't mind the evasion penalty.
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# Aug 08 2007 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
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MND a worthless stat O.o You're a 75 whm you should know that MND controls your Cure V. If you do ANY sort of HNM of God events you should know that Cure V is a life saver
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# Jan 15 2005 at 8:18 PM Rating: Decent
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dont really like these that much

the 50 mp is nice, but id almost rather have the +15 dark magic skill from af1 pants, would easily rather have the AF2 pants
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RE: >.>
# Jan 29 2005 at 3:46 PM Rating: Good
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Errant is much better for BLMs. But they'll basically be last in line for these anyways in most shells.. they usually go to WHMs and BRDs first.
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#leroyog, Posted: Dec 31 2004 at 10:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's Hung. Because they have huge wangs :p
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# Nov 24 2004 at 11:33 AM Rating: Default
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Its not hyper or huge. Its honorific, as in you get a title from beating it.
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RE: ...
# Dec 12 2005 at 4:21 AM Rating: Decent
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At 1st glance I thought you wrote horrorific which is quite a fitting term for HNMs. Is honorific even a word?
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# Mar 06 2005 at 10:39 PM Rating: Decent
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lol its hyper
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RE: ...
# Dec 09 2004 at 7:19 PM Rating: Default
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.......... STFU please.... noobs like u need to stfu instead of trying to look like u know everything...
Stupid
# Nov 14 2004 at 5:59 PM Rating: Default
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NO. It's HYPER, read all the HNM forums.
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RE: Stupid
# May 29 2005 at 6:14 PM Rating: Good
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NO. It's HYPER, read all the HNM forums.

Actually you're incorrect. According to a recent interview with the FFXI team designers, they stated that the H in HNM stands for "High-Level".
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RE: Stupid
# Nov 05 2006 at 10:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Shotie wrote:
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NO. It's HYPER, read all the HNM forums.

Actually you're incorrect. According to a recent interview with the FFXI team designers, they stated that the H in HNM stands for "High-Level".


Umm... Isn't HNM a player term? Why would the "FFXI team designers" (whatever that is) have a say in what a player term stands for? I've never heard Tiamat or Jormungand or Kirin or any monster referred to in game as HNM by the game environment (NPCs, Cutscenes, etc.) Notorious Monster is in the autotranslator, but no variations of it.

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RE: Stupid
# Nov 15 2004 at 2:23 AM Rating: Default
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It's hyper alright, huge just makes you look stupid!
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# Nov 14 2004 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
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NO. It's HYPER, read all the HNM forums.
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# Jun 16 2004 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
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They go in the legs slot.

Still says Inventory at the time of this post.

Edited, Wed Jun 16 13:21:47 2004
Level?
# Jun 16 2004 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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What is the level requirement for these insane slacks?
RE: Level?
# Jun 16 2004 at 11:34 AM Rating: Decent
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72 or 73 if I remember well. Those are the abjuration leggins for mages/bards.
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RE: Level?
# Jun 16 2004 at 12:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I think they are Lv72. I can check up on this later today.
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RE: Level?
# Jun 17 2004 at 4:31 AM Rating: Decent
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All abjuration armor is lvl73

Abjuration armor is (for those who don't allready know), an cursed item that you purify with another item. All the items u purefy it with, is dropped by a HNM (Hyper Notorius Monster). The different parts need the different item to get purefied.

see more about abujation at this page:

http://mysterytour.web.infoseek.co.jp/ffxi/us/

Edited, Thu Jun 17 05:31:50 2004
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#Haiiro, Posted: Oct 22 2004 at 11:31 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol, Hyper... It's Huge, not Hyper. XD
RE: Level?
# Nov 14 2004 at 11:00 PM Rating: Default
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yeah huge but hyper for some odd reason sounds better.
RE: Level?
# Dec 05 2004 at 11:45 PM Rating: Default
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It's definatley hyper.
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