Summoner's Horn  

I gotta ask. What does INT have anything to do with SMN? I think INT is a good thing for my /rdm and /blm sub but what does INT have to do with SMN?

The person in the pic is not wearing the relic horn.

I always thought TH1 and 2 worked regardless of what the item was. The way I understand it, TH gives one bonus "free throw" to the treasure pool, as if there were one extra person in your party with a chance to roll on the treasure. Now when I go on Dynamis runs I always tell the Drks to /thf and hopefully we get lucky and one or two main Thfs comes along.

But I notice that the drop rate on AF2 is all around pretty terrible. I wanted to get some thoughts on whether, if at all, TH affects AF2 drops and also, whether moon phases, elemental days, etc, have any effect. And lastly, is anyone else pissed that SE doesn't give so much as a shred of confirmation of what factors, if any, influence how to get this highly-prized gear? I've done about 8 dynamis runs so far, 3 Jeuno, 1 Bastok, 3 Sandy, and only seen one Abyss Flanchard drop in all of those runs, 4 of which have been successful (all time extensions, boss defeated). I know Drk AF doesn't drop in Sandy, but still the AF2 drop rate in general seems VERY crappy, and it's beginning to really get on my nerves.

Thoughts anyone?

In my ls, there are 2 SMNs. Me, and another tarutaru SMN. he is lv 75 and has all af2 pieces except the shoes(i don't think he's tried farming in dynamis-San d'Oria.) over all, the AF2 set can give you perpetuation -6, if you meet the requirements. for the horn, you need the avatar and it's corresponding weather, for the doublet, it is avatar at their corresponding day.

So, in order to have the full -6 perpetuations on the avatars from the AF2 set, you would need to have let's say, leviathan out, on watersday in rainy weather. As a 75 SMN i believe the normal avatars cost 10mp/tick without their staff or any - perpetuation (plz correct me if im wrong ;p) so, with the requirements of the AF2 set with an HQ staff, evoker's ring,and auto-refresh, you have free avatars.

For NMs and solo and such, a way to gain back MP would be important. Since Auto-Refresh is counted first in the perpetuation ladder, you would need a piece of gear with "Refresh effect" on it to gain back MP(i believe only dalmatica(HQ/NQ)and vermillion cloak(HQ/NQ) are the only ones with this.

Because of this, you would not be able to wear the Summoner's doublet(and possible horn with vermillion cloak) when regaining MP with an avatar out, which makes you have to use Carbuncle.

Carbuncle has weak BPs so i just suggest taking out your strongest BP avatar and after BP release it, and then summon Carbuncle, equip Apollo's staff, evoker's ring(should be on already) and summoner's horn(if not wearing Vermillion cloak.)
this will give you free Carbuncle, and allow you to refresh your MP with him out.

Good luck to all the summoners ! especially on leviathan! ;p


edit: I forgot to mention, Vermillion cloak is an ok succes rate on synthesis, in order to HQ it(Royal Cloak) it is very tough, you need darksday(best day to HQ synths, but also downs success rate, mog enhancement> Earth? [not sure, i think v cloak requires earth crystal.])and also need imagery from guild.As for Dalmatica, it is a fiar success rate if you are a capped clothcrafter(100 or 100+2(3?) Dalmatica +1 is EXTREMELY rare synth, need the same requirements as royal cloak, except higher lv clothcraft.

also, the AF2 drops are very rare, for AF2 i just suggest going to dynamis, with 1pt to an alliance for AF2 farming, bring THFs with TH+ gear and lucky eggs (rare/ex food give TH+1) dont try boss with only 1 allaicne, you'll get blown away, and if you are going to farm for AF2, wont have time to fight the boss anyways >< also for doing AF2 farming if you're not satisfied with drops, you can go kill certain mobs for more time, not sure which ones ; ;

Edited, Fri Apr 8 02:42:28 2005

The Summoners Horn take -3 perpetuation cost off any avatar on any day. It is the Body piece that depends on the day for a -2 perpetuation cost. I suggest finding a way to obtain a Penance robe rather than use a the Relic Armor robe. Summoner's Horn, a Penance Robe, Light Staff, and Carbuncle Mitts should allow u to keep carby out at all times at lvl 75 and with the rest of the elemental staves the other avatars shouldnt cost very much. If u r on the Caitsith Server talk to Rio but use the Auto-translate function because he is Japanese he can make u the Penance Robe because he is a 104+ crafter in cloth and leather. Might take him a couple tries on Darksday but its worth it.

Edited, Sat Jan 22 22:39:58 2005

I FINNALLY saw one! And i am almost positive that the cost depends on weather....;_;
Darn them!

Ok come on we know the stats on it, so lets see a picture ^^

Get real, you put in the time you get the end game items. Ive waited a long time for these why should you get them @ 50.

Some people

ooooh! i want it!!