Bravura
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Edited, Mon Mar 14 22:55:38 2005
Bravura
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Type: Relic
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/slap everyone who thinks the Gungir is better.
I don't think any of you understand........at 300% TP this deals a 19 FOLD attack. Gungir is nice but unless it can do Metatron Torment (which I know for a fact it can't) it's nothing in comparison. Don't get me wrong Gungir is a nice weapon but it can't hold a candle to this one.
I don't think any of you understand........at 300% TP this deals a 19 FOLD attack. Gungir is nice but unless it can do Metatron Torment (which I know for a fact it can't) it's nothing in comparison. Don't get me wrong Gungir is a nice weapon but it can't hold a candle to this one.
Ok first of all, it doesn't deal a 19 fold attack at anytime. So your one point of arguement, is for nothing. If you had to compare it, this has one less damage, the gungnir should therefore outdamage it, but this has a doubled attack about once every 15minutes in an exp pt, so their pretty even. However, this lowers evasion, you should hit more, but at 75 you usually exp on mobs that arent too hard to hit in the first place and it gives +20acc anyway so....
Gungnir gives DEF down, you will hit for more, it also has the +20acc, so the damage will be pretty close over time compared with Bravura, but you will likely do more with Gungnir. My last point is WSs. DEF down or EVA down to boost a WS? As anyone would I'm sure say(except for huge multihit WSs) DEF down is better, you will flat out do more dmg with def down than eva down. I also don't know the hidden effect on Gungnir but I hear it's a boosted attack, much like Bravura, so at least in my point of view, Gungnir is superior.
Gungnir gives DEF down, you will hit for more, it also has the +20acc, so the damage will be pretty close over time compared with Bravura, but you will likely do more with Gungnir. My last point is WSs. DEF down or EVA down to boost a WS? As anyone would I'm sure say(except for huge multihit WSs) DEF down is better, you will flat out do more dmg with def down than eva down. I also don't know the hidden effect on Gungnir but I hear it's a boosted attack, much like Bravura, so at least in my point of view, Gungnir is superior.
Okay... My biggest concern is...
WHY ARE WE COMPARING THE GUNGNIR TO THE BRAVURA?!
One can ONLY be used by Dragoons, the other can ONLY be used by Warriors. There is NO REASON, that I can see, correct me if I'm wrong, TO COMPARE THE TWO. <(o O<) Geez!
It's like comparing Steaks and Oranges!
"I like the Orange because it's a citrus fruit and citrus fruit are just awesome!"
"I like steaks because of thier meaty goodness!"
Um... Okay? That's nice... but Why compare the two? It's not like a WAR can sit there and say, "Hmm... the Gungnir has an extra attack point and a cool WS... but the Bravura has a 19 fold attack... but I think tritens are cool, so I want to go for the Gungnir. Even though it's Dragoon-only and I can't USE it." ... Um, Hello?
Okay. This is a nice WAR-ONLY great axe. And the Gungnir is a nice DRG-ONLY polearm. But the big choise isn't between which weapon you want... it's more along the lines of "what JOB do you want to be?" and we all know everyone has thier own opinion on that.
Let's try thinking with our brains a little sometimes, mm'kay?
WHY ARE WE COMPARING THE GUNGNIR TO THE BRAVURA?!
One can ONLY be used by Dragoons, the other can ONLY be used by Warriors. There is NO REASON, that I can see, correct me if I'm wrong, TO COMPARE THE TWO. <(o O<) Geez!
It's like comparing Steaks and Oranges!
"I like the Orange because it's a citrus fruit and citrus fruit are just awesome!"
"I like steaks because of thier meaty goodness!"
Um... Okay? That's nice... but Why compare the two? It's not like a WAR can sit there and say, "Hmm... the Gungnir has an extra attack point and a cool WS... but the Bravura has a 19 fold attack... but I think tritens are cool, so I want to go for the Gungnir. Even though it's Dragoon-only and I can't USE it." ... Um, Hello?
Okay. This is a nice WAR-ONLY great axe. And the Gungnir is a nice DRG-ONLY polearm. But the big choise isn't between which weapon you want... it's more along the lines of "what JOB do you want to be?" and we all know everyone has thier own opinion on that.
Let's try thinking with our brains a little sometimes, mm'kay?
Just wanted to post some information regarding acquiring this axe, using this link as reference:
http://ff11.s33.xrea.com/dynamis/index.shtml
Relic Bhuj --> Agonal Bhuj
Wootz Ingot
Damascus Ingot
Ancient Lumber
3x100 Byne Bill Commision (3x100 Byne Bills = 300 Byne Bills)
have to wait til next Vana'diel day to receive axe
Agonal Bhuj --> Dynamis Bhuj
Butterfly Axe
Great Axe
Heavy Darksteel Axe
16xL.Whiteshells Commision (16 L.Whiteshells = 1600 T.Whiteshells)
have to wait 1 real life week to receive axe
Dynamis Bhuj --> Abaddon Killer
Attestation of Force, Rare?/Ex? item dropped off NM Quiebitiel in Dynamis- Beaucedine, spawns in/at/near the tower at (I-7) after the Vanguard Eye(s) are killed
61xM.Silverpieces Commision (61 M.Silverpices = 6100 O.Silverpieces)
have to wait 2 real life weeks to receive axe? unsure about the wait
Abaddon Killer --> Bravura
this upgrade seems to have the least information
Seraphic Fragment rare?/ex?/key item?
If you follow the Dynamis - Xarcabard link I provided and look at the map, at the (I-6)(I-7) border, great axe is starred, not to mention a whole bunch of other weapons are starred as well on the map, and it looks like these stars represent NMs for their respective weapon. Rumors include, first off, need to have Adaddon Killer Equipped before entering Dynamis-Xarcabard and will get a cutscene regarding getting the fragment/Bravura.
Also heard that you must kill the Dynamis Lord before you are able to get the fragment. Eventually, you trade the Abaddon Killer to the fountain in Ru'Lude Gardens to finally get Bravura. Unsure as well if you have to wait a certain period or time or not to receive the Bravura. Not even sure if there is some sort of commision involved.
Good luck in trying to get the Bravura. It's gonna take a lot of time and gil and patience. Need a total of 8000 single denomination Dynamis currency for commision, and this is if there is no commision for the final upgrade. On an average Dynamis run, you get about 5, so that means it would take 1600 Dynamis runs, assuming you dont buy any. And you can do Dynamis only once every three RL days, which also slows down the process. And if you do buy them, players bazaar these on average for 5k gil each, so that would amount to 40 million gil. If you are lucky, you can get 100 denomination Dynamis currency, but these are extremely rare drops and doubt you will be able to lot on them if others know you already have some. Another option is you can sponsor your own Dyanmis runs and pay the 1mil gil cost yourself and have all Dynamis currency given to you. And again referencing the link i provided, it seems either dynamis currency in a 10,000 denomination or 10,000 in Dynamis currency can drop if certain actions are performed. This would make things really, really easier.
Edited, Thu Feb 3 13:59:11 2005
http://ff11.s33.xrea.com/dynamis/index.shtml
Relic Bhuj --> Agonal Bhuj
Wootz Ingot
Damascus Ingot
Ancient Lumber
3x100 Byne Bill Commision (3x100 Byne Bills = 300 Byne Bills)
have to wait til next Vana'diel day to receive axe
Agonal Bhuj --> Dynamis Bhuj
Butterfly Axe
Great Axe
Heavy Darksteel Axe
16xL.Whiteshells Commision (16 L.Whiteshells = 1600 T.Whiteshells)
have to wait 1 real life week to receive axe
Dynamis Bhuj --> Abaddon Killer
Attestation of Force, Rare?/Ex? item dropped off NM Quiebitiel in Dynamis- Beaucedine, spawns in/at/near the tower at (I-7) after the Vanguard Eye(s) are killed
61xM.Silverpieces Commision (61 M.Silverpices = 6100 O.Silverpieces)
have to wait 2 real life weeks to receive axe? unsure about the wait
Abaddon Killer --> Bravura
this upgrade seems to have the least information
Seraphic Fragment rare?/ex?/key item?
If you follow the Dynamis - Xarcabard link I provided and look at the map, at the (I-6)(I-7) border, great axe is starred, not to mention a whole bunch of other weapons are starred as well on the map, and it looks like these stars represent NMs for their respective weapon. Rumors include, first off, need to have Adaddon Killer Equipped before entering Dynamis-Xarcabard and will get a cutscene regarding getting the fragment/Bravura.
Also heard that you must kill the Dynamis Lord before you are able to get the fragment. Eventually, you trade the Abaddon Killer to the fountain in Ru'Lude Gardens to finally get Bravura. Unsure as well if you have to wait a certain period or time or not to receive the Bravura. Not even sure if there is some sort of commision involved.
Good luck in trying to get the Bravura. It's gonna take a lot of time and gil and patience. Need a total of 8000 single denomination Dynamis currency for commision, and this is if there is no commision for the final upgrade. On an average Dynamis run, you get about 5, so that means it would take 1600 Dynamis runs, assuming you dont buy any. And you can do Dynamis only once every three RL days, which also slows down the process. And if you do buy them, players bazaar these on average for 5k gil each, so that would amount to 40 million gil. If you are lucky, you can get 100 denomination Dynamis currency, but these are extremely rare drops and doubt you will be able to lot on them if others know you already have some. Another option is you can sponsor your own Dyanmis runs and pay the 1mil gil cost yourself and have all Dynamis currency given to you. And again referencing the link i provided, it seems either dynamis currency in a 10,000 denomination or 10,000 in Dynamis currency can drop if certain actions are performed. This would make things really, really easier.
Edited, Thu Feb 3 13:59:11 2005
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Posted: Feb 02 2005 at 8:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok, Gungir may be a match to the Brauvara but be honest with yourselves now... Who's gonna do more damage? A Warrior or a Dragoon? Obviously the Warrior, hence forth the Gungir is a waste in the hands of a sissy Dragoon.
How do you figure? Your most likely fighting gods or other HNM's with these types of weapons. The Gungnir, has more Damage than this axe... a little more delay and can lower defense. With lower defense you will do more dmg. So I put oney on th drg doing more.
(and no, I didnt talk about weapon skills)
(and no, I didnt talk about weapon skills)
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ok lots of ppl been sayin that gungnir is just as good as bravura but it impairs def.....let me ask you this does gungnir give you the ability to use a beyond holy ws in all areas? i may not i still might be a noob but this weapon is godly /em dies from a heart attack at the sight of this weapon X.X at least i died happy
Yes, Gungir does actually.
Are you nuts?
If you watch the Weapon skill video,the animation for this weapon skill is 1 large downward hack with an explosion. Definitly NOT a 19 hit attack ¬_¬
once again that video is fake, its just some photoshopped/video edited version of the weapon skill "Full Break"
ok lots of ppl been sayin that gungnir is just as good as bravura but it impairs def.....let me ask you this does gungnir give you the ability to use a beyond holy ws in all areas? i may not i still might be a noob but this weapon is godly /em dies from a heart attack at the sight of this weapon X.X at least i died happy
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War/Sam would dish out the most WS damage with this Great Axe. it can burn the battle field and not even break a sweat.
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War/Sam would dish out the most WS damage with this Great Axe. it can burn the battle field and not even break a sweat.
36 posts
A WAR/SAM at this lvl with that axe would destroy anything...dishin out uber dmg and spammin Metatron Torment....must...obtain...
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Almost identical stats for the two. gungir does 1 more dmg, has 4 more delay, and impairs defense. I give the nod to the lance for being slightly better. I would sell my soul for either though.
Evasion impair> Defense impair
1 damage= 4 delay
Both are really good though ; )
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the weapons have +20 acc on them and the great axe is a one hit ws and the polearm im not sure, so why the hell would u prefer eva down than def down?
the 4 delay is a joke to even consider {jump <you can have this>) >.>
the 4 delay is a joke to even consider {jump <you can have this>) >.>
22 posts
i have a pic of them but its missing the ninja weapons
http://www3.telus.net/bdustin/FFXI/Misc/3791.jpg
http://www3.telus.net/bdustin/FFXI/Misc/3791.jpg
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I dunno; have you seen the stats on the Gungnir? Almost identical only it impairs defense.
Far higher delay. Well, not FAR higher, but higher.
Almost identical stats for the two. gungir does 1 more dmg, has 4 more delay, and impairs defense. I give the nod to the lance for being slightly better. I would sell my soul for either though.
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Yes, But remember DRG has much better attacks and skills than WAR.
36 posts
I dont think you know what Metatron Torment does... with 300tp it is a 19-fold attack. now decide which weapon is better ^^;
Scholar
49 posts
I don't think the lance beats it because remember that war still has more str than drg.
The GM weapon does 100 damage and has 999 delay.
Dang 99 damage the only other weapon that can do similar damage is the Judges Sword only available to GMS
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Dang 99 damage the only other weapon that can do similar damage is the Judges Sword only available to GMS
check apocalypse
19 posts
il do anything for this axe. heck il sell my soul to the devil for it
WE WANT A PIC! WE WANT A PIC! ^^
If you wanna see what Metatron Torment looks like:
Relic WS
Edited, Tue Oct 26 19:00:59 2004
If you wanna see what Metatron Torment looks like:
Relic WS
Edited, Tue Oct 26 19:00:59 2004
That pic is a fake, edited video of Full Break.
The real Metatron Torment is a 19-hit Raging Rush Style Attack that can do upwards of 8000 Damage to certain mobs.
The real Metatron Torment is a 19-hit Raging Rush Style Attack that can do upwards of 8000 Damage to certain mobs.
21 posts
Anyone know what Metatron Torment does
The "Metatron Torment" modifier means that a Warrior wielding this is able to use the Weapon Skill Metatron Torment.
Some of the previous Relic Bhujs also enable Metatron Torment, but only in Dynamis.
Some of the previous Relic Bhujs also enable Metatron Torment, but only in Dynamis.
Signature gone bad wookie. Signature gone bad ; )
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Long live the buttersheep!
Erm... huh?
No I know what a buttersheep is but, they aren't the kind to use this GOD Gaxe...
Probably one of, if not the, best relic weapon. It's insane.
I dunno; have you seen the stats on the Gungnir? Almost identical only it impairs defense.
/em has an ******
This Axe would put the fear of God inside every mob's soul. Maybe one day I will get high enough to use it!
This would be great if it didn't require absurd amounts of ancient currency, like all the other upgraded relic weapons. Maybe if my server wasn't full of drama queens, someone would be able to upgrade >.>
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