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Shinimusha Haidate
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DEF:27 Store TP+6
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Store TP & Use at 50
# Feb 25 2009 at 2:07 PM Rating: Good
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Store TP info can be found in the SAM forums.

Anyway, the point of these is that with a 450 Delay GKT, such as the level 50 Koryukagemitsu, you need 46 StP to reach a 6 hit build. At 50, you get Store TP trait III, which gives you 20 flat-out. This leaves you needing 26 more. If you equip the Shinamusha Hara-Ate + Shinamusha Haidate then you have added 15, for a total of 35 (leaving 11 to go). Now, equip Rajas Ring and you are only 6 away.

For the final 6, you have two options.

Option 1) Carbonara

Food Effects: (30 Minutes, All Races)
HP +14% (Cap: 175 @ 1249 Base HP)
MP +10
Strength +4
Vitality +2
Intelligence -3
Attack +18% (Cap: 65 @ 361 Base Attack)
Store TP +6

Option 2) Arrabbiata + Ecphoria Ring

Food Effects: (30 minutes, All Races)
HP +12% (Cap: 150@1250 Base HP)
Strength +5
Vitality +2
Intelligence -7
Attack +22.5% (Cap: 120@533 Base Attack)
Store TP +5

Note that you get one more STR and more ATK with Arrabbiata, but that due to it only having 5 versus 6 StP, you need to add 1 more from your ring slot. Also, since it is made with Dragon Meat, price may be prohibitive.

Hopefully this information clears up the confusion that was posted below.

As a final note, people using Soboro Sukehiro should not be focusing their gear on StP.

Edited, Feb 25th 2009 4:16pm by NatePrawdzik
Drop Rate
# Jul 24 2008 at 5:49 AM Rating: Decent
I've been camping this guy for the last 2yrs,and have found that the drop rate seems to be greatly improved when its either a full or new moon. This may seem to be common sense to some people. I however, had to learn the hard way.
Anyway good luck!

Edited, Jul 24th 2008 8:52am by Raffhouse

Edited, Jul 24th 2008 9:09am by Raffhouse

Edited, Jul 24th 2008 9:16am by Raffhouse
Well
# May 16 2008 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
Soonest seen him spawn is 5mins after I killed him and latest 5hrs after I killed him >.> 1/5 after 7hrs with TH4. Droped both pants when he did drop though, seems to be a trend based on the posts. They spawn on a 14min timer and the nm spawns in line with that timer roughly 6vana hours.
um...???
# Apr 05 2008 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
Ok on shiva these are going for 150K so i was like, oh the drop rate can't be that bad. i camped him all day yesterday 0/6. what the hell? and nothing bothers me more than random people running through and killing the monster that spawns before i get to him. happend twice now >.< have some curtousy, if you are running through a nm zone and there are campers, don't steal the mob from them....its just annoying that my hard work is going into someone else's pocket!
Edited, Apr 5th 2008 8:38pm by Vodantes

Edited, Apr 6th 2008 3:15pm by Vodantes
1/1
# Sep 05 2007 at 9:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Just like to say...

After many many hours of no pop and frustration last night and another 2hrs and abit today.. HE FINALLY POPS! AND *cough* 1/1.

I'm one happy taru ^^
The Picture
# Mar 26 2007 at 7:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyone else notice that the mithra in the picture blinked? I don't know why i noticed. I think it's kinda funny tho ^^b
Drk Asb-TP vs Sam-RNG
# Mar 13 2007 at 1:39 PM Rating: Decent
Well, if you are xping on mobs that are weak too dark magic, a DRK can build tp just as quick as a SAM or a RNG, if not quicker, with a 1 min recast timer on abs-tp, we can ezly do 1 ws every 1 min if not quicker. (Take into consideration the mob doesn't use its TP attack) we can get an average of 50-125 TP back. With 3 mp a tic without a RDM refresher, I can ezly cast abs-tp every 1 min and out TP build alot of SAM's and RNG's. Yeah a SAM can do 2 WS back to back but in the long run I was doing 2 to his 1. Just a thought, of course if you don't have 3 mp tic with refresh gear and saction this will be had to maintain. With the right set up DRK's can build TP real quick and deal alot of DMG.
TP quick
# Mar 07 2007 at 6:47 PM Rating: Decent
its funny how u guys all talk about SAM and RNG as tthe killer TP gainers, u dont even consider the DRKs using Absorb TP we arent as good as SAM or RNG for tp quick but at least a mention would be nice, considering i was exping with a thf last night who was like "cmon drk hurry up waiting here" and im thinking um why am i not using absorb tp? next thing i no im /party TP 101% thf? what u on? and he replies "40% damn spell" ive burned with alot of SAM and RNG and if u - med im not getting owned in tp gain

just thought id at least add DRK to the tping fast contest =)
I got em
# Nov 25 2006 at 8:00 AM Rating: Decent
Well i got mine last night,They dropped on my first try.Killed the Strongman with 64MNK/WAR.I used my 2hr, just for fun,which made for a quick kill. No one was camping it so i stuck around and got a second shot at him. He popped an hour and half later, even without 2hr i still didnt have much trouble killing him. No drop on second kill though. My SAM is currently 49 so im excited to try em. Even if they dont make a huge difference, they still look good!
meh
# Aug 17 2006 at 1:39 PM Rating: Decent
i bought these legs expecting a significant improvement on tp gain and i was disapointed to find out that it only added one point. i dont knwo what the deal is what that but that wasnt even wroth 50k and had played 200k+. unless u have other tp+ gear dont waste ur tiem with this save the money for a good weapon. like the lv 50 katana.
price
# Feb 08 2006 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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1.9m on titan....
RE: price
# Mar 10 2006 at 6:55 PM Rating: Good
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03/10/06 500k on Titan
RE: price
# May 01 2006 at 6:34 AM Rating: Decent
5/1/06 450K on Garuda.
True Warrior
# Jan 25 2006 at 1:49 AM Rating: Default


Edited, Wed Jan 25 00:50:10 2006
Store TP & Shinimusha
# Jan 12 2006 at 1:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Just a fun fact: At Level 50 (w/ Store TP 3), with a 420 Delay GK, you need exactly +15 Store TP to get 100% TP in a default 7 hits and not a default 8 (as in, from 0%, w/o getting hit, and w/o shooting your bow). That's what the Shinimusha Body & Leg add up to.

For a 450 Delay GK, you need +7 Store TP.
Can't Compare to a lvl 55 pants...
# Jul 07 2005 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
People should stop comparing these with the Ryl. Knight Breeches, its a 5 lvl difference, can't really compare a lvl 50 pants to a lvl 55 pants... yea the price sucks for them, but theres not much better at 50, jujitsu for the +dex, but its just 1 dex...they could be a nice lvl 50 pants, but Ryl. Knight Breeches are nice at 55...
Lucky
# Jun 21 2005 at 4:54 AM Rating: Decent
I was bored mining in Gusgen Mines, figured I'd take an adventure away from the death and mining gil sellers of my server. I explore around as I mine and look up NMs in the area, figure I'll try to pop this guy, sure enough 20 minutes later he pops I quickly defeat him and what's more? I get every drop that is possible to loot off this sucker, Lucky night I guess eh? hehe
('-')b
# May 07 2005 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent


Edited, Sat May 7 11:47:01 2005
Really the point of these
# May 04 2005 at 11:48 PM Rating: Decent
Ok aside from the new HQ Alumine Gear, These are awesome for non soloing. Simply just have a swap to AF macro for when using a weapon skill for the +3 str. I want to get these again. Especially with the new jse gear.
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# Mar 04 2005 at 3:14 AM Rating: Default
i have 2 pairs of these.. i killed the nm to get them.. once i put them on i was glad i didnt pay 500k for them >< i do have to say that in a sence they are atleast worth trying.. i mean.. you all make it sound like Sam is supposed to be some kind of DD.. i dont see any Attack Bonus traits unless you have War subbed.. Sam's job is TP and lots of it...get TP do SC .. Meditate do SC.. get TP..TP TP TP TP.
Sam's job traits are? Store TP Store TP Store TP.
anyhwho.. what i mean is .. if there is something out there to help your TP gain even at a small margine it is always worth trying, but if you really dont think its worth it then by all means.. DONT GET IT..bad enough we all buy gear that we are told we are SUPPOSED to have.. Though i'll admit i constantly macro gear during battles.. i have gear for str and att (mostly used for ws or easy to hit mobs).. acc and dex (for pts w/ a rng or 2 and need every swing to count) and last but not least rng acc and agi gear (works great for pts where i am pulling or when arrgo is loose and i'm not about to run after the mob like an idiot due to poor tanking skills)..
so really.. in the end.. nobody cares whether you get the shorts or not.. you play your way and i'll play my way..
RE: ><
# Sep 05 2005 at 8:19 AM Rating: Decent
Quote:
you all make it sound like Sam is supposed to be some kind of DD..


Umm, SAM IS a DD...
RE: ><
# Sep 03 2005 at 1:13 PM Rating: Decent
umm...
quote " i mean.. you all make it sound like Sam is supposed to be some kind of DD.."

constant skillchaining isnt that the whole purpose of a DD...

i'm a lv 74 nin 71 rng and 58 sam an one thing thats sure is that sam's ability to build rapi tp is why its a good DD. in the end its one of the highest DD's in th game. so yes being able to gain constant tp is what makes sam a DD. i would consider a job that does 700+ damage a skill chain and has the ability to do it 2+ times every fight an excelent choice of the DD class. cause well its not a mage, support, or tanking job. only job type left is well DD...

ok i'm dont see you again

bruttus
odin server
a'right
# Jan 03 2005 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
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I'm wearing both Shinimusha parts(body and pants) which give me +15 TP Store. With Ochiduo's Kote and 2 Snipper Rings, this allow me to greatly out damage any DRK of my level, and I also get more TP then a RNG/NIN(meditate included). Not only do I almost always hit my target, but TP goes damn fast !!!

my TP stats:
When my hits land: 15 TP
When I get hit: 3-4 TP
When my arrows land: 18-19 TP

This doesn't look much. But over all, and espescially when tank loose hate to me (which happen pretty often is he's not a PLD), then it really does a difference...

Ho, and did I mension how cool it looks ???
http://putfile.com/1/208085326.jpg <------ ME

ALSO, and most of all, note that now, for the first times since March patch, I can self-chain again ! and pretty easilly !!! (as long as mob is hitting me between my 2 WS).


Edited, Mon Jan 3 09:37:50 2005
gah, sry
# Dec 14 2004 at 1:29 PM Rating: Default
crap, double post, site froze on me ><
other equipment?
# Dec 14 2004 at 1:20 PM Rating: Decent
if you ask me, yes this is a good item, yes i have been thinking of buying it, yes i have bought it, no i was not pleased with it.

ok right now i am a lv56 sam/war, i am pretty displeased with this item, i spent 280k on this and i was not happy about the outcome, i was already using RK breeches and i dont think these are worth the money, if these were like 80k-120k yeah then they would be worth it but over 150k? no way, i bought my RK breeches for 100k and i like them alot better than these or AF, yes the store tp thing is pretty neat but SE really gimped us on our store tp ability, i mean +.5 tp... that doesnt make much of a difference at all, percision timeing on your skills is the key to building TP, they have a new item called the Shinimushas Hara-Ate that gives a Store TP bonus of +9, as soon as i figure out how to get it, i might trade in my RK chainmail and RK breeches and buy these back, but if your using these alone, you probably wont see a difference, and i dont know why everyone loves the AF legs, the only time i use them is when im walking in town, other than that, no i hate them, +3 str and +15hp doesnt stack up agains +2 str +2 dex +3 atk, so if you ask me, RK breeches beat this, and the AF, the only time this is usefull is if you have alot of store tp items, and theres not many out there so just skip this item unless you have a buttload of cash, either way your gonna need to save up for the Haubergeon anyways, make up your own decision im just telling you my opinion.

Edited, Tue Dec 14 13:24:28 2004
other equipment?
# Dec 14 2004 at 1:22 PM Rating: Excellent
if you ask me, yes this is a good item, yes i have been thinking of buying it, yes i have bought it, no i was not pleased with it.

ok right now i am a lv56 sam/war, i am pretty displeased with this item, i spent 280k on this and i was not happy about the outcome, i was already using RK breeches and i dont think these are worth the money, if these were like 80k-120k yeah then they would be worth it but over 150k? no way, i bought my RK breeches for 100k and i like them alot better than these or AF, yes the store tp thing is pretty neat but SE really gimped us on our store tp ability, i mean +.5 tp... that doesnt make much of a difference at all, percision timeing on your skills is the key to building TP, they have a new item called the Shinimushas Hara-Ate and it gives Store TP+9, as soon as i figure out how to get it, i might trade in my RK chainmail and RK breeches and buy these back, but if your using these alone, you probably wont see a difference, and i dont know why everyone loves the AF legs, the only time i use them is when im walking in town, other than that, no i hate them, +3 str and +15hp doesnt stack up agains +2 str +2 dex +3 atk, so if you ask me, RK breeches beat this, and the AF, the only time this is usefull is if you have alot of store tp items, and theres not many out there so just skip this item unless you have a buttload of cash, either way your gonna need to save up for the Haubergeon anyways, make up your own decision im just telling you my opinion.
RE: other equipment?
# Jan 26 2005 at 8:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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LordNaito, anything that I might need to say to you can be summed up here:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2002-10-11
RE: other equipment?
# Feb 08 2005 at 11:11 AM Rating: Decent
Amen.
tp bonus??
# Dec 04 2004 at 8:14 AM Rating: Decent
k i bought these right after the expansion....
got em for 250k on quezelcotl, befor these i was
gaining 13 tp a hit. after i bought these i was
getting 14-15 tp a hit.. i dont think that 250k was worth the tp gain im gonna switch to the af leg armor right when i get to 54 (3k exp)....

Edited, Sat Dec 4 08:17:36 2004
Store TP
# Dec 02 2004 at 11:24 PM Rating: Default
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Store TP = +0.5 TP

Thus these pants, giving Store TP +6, will give you +3 TP per hit. Which, is a LOT. 3% might not seem like a lot by itself, but you will be getting 15.5 TP per hit as a Samurai. That adds up FAST.

Im SO going to go kill this NM right now. :P


EDIT: I got the pants (yay). However... Im only fighting Too Weak right now and gaining a random amount of TP. anywhere from 13-16 TP. More on this as I kill more things :)

NEXT EDIT: Ok Im using them in an XP pt and Im getting 13% TP per hit.

Edited, Fri Dec 3 23:57:57 2004
hmmm
# Dec 02 2004 at 6:47 PM Rating: Default
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A good Samurai can out TP everyone in his party.

hmmm i never saw a samurai out tp me
(im a ranger)
my thoughts on these
# Dec 02 2004 at 8:51 AM Rating: Decent
atm their selling fro 100k on remora i think that's a fair price. i bought mine for 125k a price i can deal with still.

Now tru it isn't +6 gain an in addition it's not a 1% gain either. It's anywhere from a 1-3 gain i can deal with that. I look at it like this add tp store 4 + the tp store 2 GK + these and that's around a 16+ gain round 19-20 if you get lucky. This is a ways off but i can wait an honestly the pants grow on me the more i use em. now just another 3.2 mil left to farm before i start lvling again.
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