I spent hours in Zerun mines makeing these when I was lving smithing and Goldsmithing.

If I mined up 4 copper ores I made a Copper Ingot. But I I mined up a Tin Ore while minning up the Copper I made a Bronze Ingot.

But I mostly mined up Iron which is good for gil but bad for Synth since I am like 15 lvs to low to make them

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Anyone know what the skill cap is for turning Copper Rings into Ingots? thx

Desynth of copper rings
NQ = 1 copper ingot
HQ1 = 1 copper ingot

Didn't get any HQ2/3s, so I couldn't tell you how many they return.

is there anyway to tell what the number is after the decimal and if there is where do i go to see it?

Correction:
Goldsmithing (4)
Yield: 1

* Crystal: Lightning Crystal
* Copper Hairpin x1

(Found the lvl while I was at it:)


Edited, Sat Oct 16 19:34:28 2004

I am currently working on building a list of cyclic synthing techniques (I lvled my leather craft to 7 in one night by doing this). I have found that the Copper Ingot is the way to go to lvl 7. But I have not been able to find the smithing lvl necessary for the de-synthing. Unfortunately, I wasn't paying attention when I first started crafting (I gained .5 from desynthing the Copper Hairpin to a Copper Ingot), but now I fail 100% of the time. I am sure it had something to do with the day that I was crafting, and I have not yet finished setting up my Mog house, but if anyone has any info on the de-synth of the copper hairpin it would be greatly appreciated. For those of you not familiar with de-synthing, you can go 10 crafts without gaining a single point and still be low enough to skill from it. You can also go 10 crafts in a row and fail, but still be 10-20 lvls above the max skill lvl for the craft.

Anyways, for those looking into starting this, here is what I am currently testing so far (the failure rate is kinda devastating right now):

2 Hours in the Highlands
7 Stacks Lightning crystals

2 Hours in La Thiene or Tahrongi
5 Stacks Wind crystals

1 hour in Giddeus.
24 Yagudo Necklaces

Obviously you can bypass most of the time by buying ingredients rather then farming them. But, you are only working with three ingredients, and the supplies that I have listed far exceed the amount needed (you can probably get by with half the amount of supplies that I mentioned). I have found that it takes about 1 stack for every lvl that you want. So you may need 2 more stacks of wind crystals.

What I am currently trying (since I made the mistake of going to tahrongi canyon the first time without knowing the spawn points of the air elementals) is to go to the Highlands first to farm the ligthning clusters. Then go to giddeus and farm the necklaces (since the ingots will stack). Then go La Thiene and farm Air elementals (where I am currently at).

It does not change the fact that without knowing the level (or a close proximity) of the Copper Hairpin desynth, this is going to a painfully slow process.

Now, you may wonder why I would go through all this trouble. There is no profit in it, and it is very time consuming. The reason is obvious. I can level my goldsmithing to level 7 without spending a single gil, and once I get into a groove, I can finish this in 2 to 3 days (Say one day in each area at the most).

Whenever I synthesize these, I gain points in goldsmithing, not in smithing.

i tried with lightning crystal and copper ring with 0 smithing skills. 5 copper rings and 8 lightning crystals gone. it's on a water day and no skill up at all. should have waited for a full moon and go Bastok for advanced support.(that is if i can ever get to Bastok with my current lvl. :p)

but i got 0.5 skill up in goldsmith making the copper rings. hahaha....

for your information-- nuggets are grown from tree cuttings- you dont' find them (at least from the common enemy. You have to harvest your plant to get them)

I can't find nuggets either.

recipe:
1x chunk of copper ore
6x copper nuggets
1x fire crystal