So last summer, I could farm silk thread and make 40k/stack, a nice profit. Now, though, a year later, a stack is only worth 12k (on Bismarck server). I know that the overall economy has experienced deflation, but it's really unfortunate that this price can't be jumped up some. It almost doesn't seem worth the farming time anymore. At any rate, I can usually bring in a stack or two per hour using 20thf/10rng outside Windy.
Reading about the perspectives of people on both sides of the issue, to me this clearly illustrates one simple fact about crafting and the AH ecconomy. And that it that it's painfully lacking ballence. I haven't any soutions for the problem but it's clear that one exists from reading this thred. For the record I used to farm silk and did ok at it. It used to pay for Food for xp pt's and choco expences. Stacks of this lvl 51 synth item used to steadly go for 40k to 50k a stack (back when Sole Sushi was 45-60k a stack) on seraph for the (first few years I played and farmed silk). Since the price has dropped to 12k my server it's just not worth farming anyhmore, for me anyway. So I simply leave farming this high-ish lvl synth item to those willing. But with my favorite food selling for 25k or more a stack and silk only 12k a stack it's no longer worth my time.
I have since the great AH depression begun lvl'ing clothcraft but it is very costly endevor in Gill and time. Currently I'm struggling to sell what I have sythed so far so that I can recoop even the smallest amount of what I have spent, rather than taking huge losses and selling it all to a NPC. I have farmed alot of my materials thuse far but with the time it takes to run around to farm items needed to lvl cc it quiclkly becomes unfesable after a crtain point so you beging to buy from AH to lvl that's reallity (of the game lol). So what this means is that at the moment I'm stranded at cc lvl 24 and until I can sell what I've made so far then get cc to at least 41 or higher so I can't even attempt to synth what I could farm of silk thread. That's my personal delema it is what it is, I'm glad prices are down I just wish I was in the position to take advantage of it. I attribute my situation to not paying closer attention to the AH and selling when prices were high. Through my own desisions I have landed my self loaded down with items that are currntly selling for little gill and at a sluggish pace on the best day, Currently I haven't adjusted my additude to enable myself to begin farming again, or more to the case I haven't found a new item worth my time.
Try to have fun everyone after all it is a game right?
I've stolen silk from Spini Spipi in east sarutabaruta and Guardian Crawler in crawler's nest. Not sure if all (non-NM) crawlers have a very low chance of having silk stolen, or if they have no silk at all. I've observed about a 75% steal rate off Guardian Crawler though using only AF for +steal.
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I remember when i started clothcrafting with these. got from 52-60+1 and they were 15k a stack. Now i have given up on clothcraft almost completley, since i will need even more than i have already used to get past lv 75. Now i think they are over 50k on ifrit. And then spider webs... 25k per
this has to be the best and the easiest things to farm....it goes for about 40-45k a stiznak on Valefor....like anyone from valefor actually posts here LOL
After losing Hoo Mjuu's staff for 4 scroll of deoderize i decide save up and buy the staff
Silks was the way to go
I made a Excel sheet of drop rates to help you guys out
Note: drop rates are only based on 4 vandiel days and on the Waxing Cresent Moon
Moon phase%+day--Actual #------Probably the real # 12%Lightningday---23.91%----------25% 14%Lightsday------23.08%----------25% 17%Darksday-------12.99%----------12.50% 19%Firesday-------16.00%----------17.50%
My theory is that the drop rate of the mob is solely dependent upon a constant drop rate + the day of the week + the Moon phase in corilation tot he Day of the week
In other words Darksday usually has good drops but i think that the moon phase does not line up as a well as a full moon or new moon
I got 52silks today so ill be back posting on the other 200 i have to farm
Hope this was useful
i would tell you the area i farmed in but i dont want it becoming camped
i have two charcters on the asura server. slaughterhouse (galka lvl 20 WAR/10MNK) and taruchimp (taru new charcter lvl 5BLM) and taruchimp is in windurst killing crawlers to fet these because one stack sells for 50k at the AH.
lol it shouldent be to hard to farm these things but everytime i do i never get silk i keep getting crawler calculas and smooth stone maybe i need to use thf>.< DRK35WAR30THF15RNG10BST5
i'm a lvl 14 bst/whm and i have been lvling near windy, i've been killing crawlers and have been getting loads of these, easy way to get a tonne of EXP and GIL XD
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Edited, Sun Jun 5 06:49:52 2005
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well, it HELPS if thf is main job, improves chances, i think it goes from 5% chance to 10% but ill have to check...
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ive just been camping these things for an hour an only got 3 threads so far im 38 war/15 thf does th need to be on main job for it to work better or not? cause right now th sucks 3 out of like 20 or 30 sucks
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Gil sellers have started to regularly farm the hell out of this on seraph, characters Jeel Ccvv Ccdd and Taiwan all farm together day and night and never log, the last stack sold for 36,000 gil on Seraph. it takes the piss because I need this crap atm for skill up. but the price of green ribbon (3 silk threads > silk cloth > green ribbon) is never going to go up because it is so worthless. I hate crafting now... gil sellers have pretty much made clothcraft impossible. yes you can farm for the stuff. but because you need thousands of stacks just to skill up, do you really want to spend your entire life farming for it!? -.-
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I don't see this recipe here... so I thought I'd post for those who don't know...
1x Green Ribbon + Lightning = Silk Thread
I've gotten between 1 and 3 threads per desynth... no skill ups at level 58 so must be much lower level desynth... maybe around 45 or so. This'll help while leveling to 62 if you're going the Green Ribbon route by synthing green ribbons, then desynthing to threads, then synthing the threads into more cloth... It worked pretty well for me.
These one of the most important items in clothcraft and only sells for 20k. Ok, so the farmers get a nice price but when the crafters buy these, they can make items that can triple the income. Is this really worth the long time farming or should people raise the price more?
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On one side, we have the sellers saying DAMN UNDERCUTTING GIL SELLERS. And on the other side you have buyers saying DAMN PRICE GOUGING GIL SELLERS. How about this: those of you who normally farm it, go level clothcrafting with it, and those of you who normally buy it, go farm it. Then it would be okay, wouldn't it? :)
think there is a gimp depending on how high your level?
Im level 30thf and its taking ages to get silk plus the price dropped from 20k to 15k in windy down to 18k in jueno its painful after so many hours I get a cut in how much I earn I want that platoon lance -_-
think there is a gimp depending on how high your level?
Im level 30thf and its taking ages to get silk plus the price dropped from 20k to 15k in windy down to 18k in jueno its painful after so many hours I get a cut in how much I earn I want that platoon lance -_-
They also drop off berry grubs in Rolanberry Fields, they may drop off the crawlers in the....er crawlers nest lol... but yeah dude gil is hard to come by and stuff is getting REALLY expensive cause of the damn gilsellers and worse the gilbuyers. it's like i hate wal-mart but i hate the people who SHOP there even more...
How did this happen, 16k a stack-20k a stack, in Windurst, in Jeuno, i don't want to look at sandoria or bastok prices, is that happening on any other servers (I'm on Valefor). It's getting ridiculous! How do I/we stop it!?
I am thankful for TH. In about 2 and a half hrs I was able to farm 2 stacks off of Carnivorous Crawlers.
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As of 3 days ago these were selling for 20k a stack in AH windy the most expensive on my server (sereph) much to my surprise all we had to do is watch a beautiful thing come crashing down the under seller got ahold of AH and its selling for 13-16K OUCH!! its not like 20K was a influx it was 20K for a while >< oh well i guess ill just hold out for now...underseller i dont like you ><
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You should still get decent drops from regular Crawlers in Saruta. You might also try Canyon Crawlers in Tahrongi Canyon. Although, they might be just a tad bit tough. Be prepared for alot of competition though. Silk Threads are the sole gil maker for a lot of players.
Edited, Mon Nov 1 07:56:21 2004
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Hi guys, I'm basically a noob so maybe someone can tell me if this is just the mind of a noob thinking...anyway, I see these things sell for 700 a pop on cerberus...and roughly 11-12k for a stack.So couldn't one just buy 12 individuals for a total of 8400...stack and resell for 11-12 for a decent profit considering your just stacking them.
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For the record I used to farm silk and did ok at it. It used to pay for Food for xp pt's and choco expences. Stacks of this lvl 51 synth item used to steadly go for 40k to 50k a stack (back when Sole Sushi was 45-60k a stack) on seraph for the (first few years I played and farmed silk). Since the price has dropped to 12k my server it's just not worth farming anyhmore, for me anyway. So I simply leave farming this high-ish lvl synth item to those willing. But with my favorite food selling for 25k or more a stack and silk only 12k a stack it's no longer worth my time.
I have since the great AH depression begun lvl'ing clothcraft but it is very costly endevor in Gill and time. Currently I'm struggling to sell what I have sythed so far so that I can recoop even the smallest amount of what I have spent, rather than taking huge losses and selling it all to a NPC. I have farmed alot of my materials thuse far but with the time it takes to run around to farm items needed to lvl cc it quiclkly becomes unfesable after a crtain point so you beging to buy from AH to lvl that's reallity (of the game lol). So what this means is that at the moment I'm stranded at cc lvl 24 and until I can sell what I've made so far then get cc to at least 41 or higher so I can't even attempt to synth what I could farm of silk thread. That's my personal delema it is what it is, I'm glad prices are down I just wish I was in the position to take advantage of it. I attribute my situation to not paying closer attention to the AH and selling when prices were high. Through my own desisions I have landed my self loaded down with items that are currntly selling for little gill and at a sluggish pace on the best day, Currently I haven't adjusted my additude to enable myself to begin farming again, or more to the case I haven't found a new item worth my time.
Try to have fun everyone after all it is a game right?
Edited, Dec 20th 2006 12:58am by Erifnez
Edited, Dec 20th 2006 1:06am by Erifnez
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Oh well, looks like I have something else to farm.
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I farm it in the Passh9w Marshlands, drop rate isnt great but plenty of Crawlers and they can be killed very easily.
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I farm it in the Passh9w Marshlands, drop rate isnt great but plenty of Crawlers and they can be killed very easily.
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Silks was the way to go
I made a Excel sheet of drop rates to help you guys out
Note: drop rates are only based on 4 vandiel days and on the Waxing Cresent Moon
Moon phase%+day--Actual #------Probably the real #
12%Lightningday---23.91%----------25%
14%Lightsday------23.08%----------25%
17%Darksday-------12.99%----------12.50%
19%Firesday-------16.00%----------17.50%
My theory is that the drop rate of the mob is solely dependent upon a constant drop rate + the day of the week + the Moon phase in corilation tot he Day of the week
In other words Darksday usually has good drops but i think that the moon phase does not line up as a well as a full moon or new moon
I got 52silks today so ill be back posting on the other 200 i have to farm
Hope this was useful
i would tell you the area i farmed in but i dont want it becoming camped
Edited, Wed Nov 2 01:54:41 2005
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THF http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?112792
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great for farming and leveling my BST , rubbish for clothcrafters
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They're always worth 50k/stack on Carbuncle.
in windurt they got for 45k a stack right now.
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ISP---> Comcast
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Yesterday 44k a stack
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Edited, Sun Jun 5 06:49:52 2005
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1x Green Ribbon + Lightning = Silk Thread
I've gotten between 1 and 3 threads per desynth... no skill ups at level 58 so must be much lower level desynth... maybe around 45 or so. This'll help while leveling to 62 if you're going the Green Ribbon route by synthing green ribbons, then desynthing to threads, then synthing the threads into more cloth... It worked pretty well for me.
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i got one from each crawler i killed... lol...: )
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Im level 30thf and its taking ages to get silk
plus the price dropped from 20k to 15k in windy
down to 18k in jueno its painful after so many hours I get a cut in how much I earn
I want that platoon lance -_-
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Im level 30thf and its taking ages to get silk
plus the price dropped from 20k to 15k in windy
down to 18k in jueno its painful after so many hours I get a cut in how much I earn
I want that platoon lance -_-
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?74285
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