you want useless....a wooden katana is useless, but even then people check you out to take a look...:)
I know no one cares but that wooden katana ended up being a lifesaver in Assaults. When you need to feed an IT mob tp so it can weaponskill to hit a door for you it was godly because I retained all of my acc from GKT skill while using it (Everyone else had underleveled clubs/clubskill).
By the way, while testing it out I was able to consistently do 250-350dmg Tachi: Gekko with that wooden katana on an IT+ Mamool nin type mob at lvl 73 sam.
About the monk gi, VIT 4 AGI 2 is a good tanking piece no matter how you look at it for that lvl. Everyone has to step in and take dmg at some point.
I'll give you the +Vit helps charkra really cool. And the Agi ok good for a little extra dodgeing.
But after looking at the other jobs that are in this quest. I'm thinking well um... to equall the coolness maybe +to att +to acc or +to counter or a regen or give a +2or more to hp healing would be good. or a haste increase. Or something that is good. I mean seriously all the others are like Godly for lvl 50 armor maybe not the best by lvl 60 but damn decent til lvl 75 even.
Mnk has enough vit least give +str and +dex or +Mnd for chi blast. I work hard to get pass promies and to wear a cool peice of equip and I get this crap.
I mean seriously all the others are like Godly for lvl 50 armor maybe not the best by lvl 60 but damn decent til lvl 75 even.
Well VIT+ for Chakra and taking hits isn't all that bad is it? Now, don't get me wrong... I'm not trying to flame you or anything but it could be worse ~~> WHM, please bend over
Not only is it a shared piece (SMN's get to wear it too) but it's absolute crap considering the pain it is just to acquire the subligar for it. WHM (as we all know) get Auto-Regen at 25; a 50SMN/25WHM gets Auto-Regen trait just by being level 50/25. Light Spirit perp -1... right.
If I were to call just one piece 'Godly', look no further than: Glamor Jupon = Sex
Again, I'm not trying to flame you or put you down; I'll probably get one myself when my MNK reaches 50 (long time from now). I already have the Glamor Jupon, Duende Cotehardie and Gaudy Harness so why not add to the collection.
as far as i can tell, Mnk just isnt a viable tank anymore, on our server anyway. Well, bout the only place i can see that this armor would be viable is maybe in a first voke situation, allowing u to tank during sata then gear switch after sata, this would be handy in a party with nin and thf, would help keep hate on nin after sata and have less healing while doin first voke, especially with the new hate loss as nins lose shadows. it would help conserve whm mp. just my opinion though
My wife had a Jujitsu Gi for her Galka Monk from 40 on, but we still obtained this item for her at level 50. Why? Well, first of all the Fomor Monk who drops this is so close to the entrance that getting the subligar should be a joke for anyone. More to the point, it let her use equipment swap macros to put this on (as well as a few other pieces chosen for the highest Vit total we could fit within limited slots) for when she used Chakra. A second macro then returned her to fighting readiness using DD gear. The amount of additional HP (on top of normal Chakra) she would get every 5 minutes by the end of a night of partying (from all the VIT gear) typically ended up in the hundreds. A HP saved is an MP earned, and of course less healing = more exp chaining. ;) In addition to the boon of higher Chakra, there have been rare cases where the only reason she survived a close fight when her PT was low on mp was that she could macro into higher VIT gear to take just enough punishment long enough for the tank to heal/get shadows up and grab hate back. Monks may not do a lot of Gear Swapping during the lower levels (coming from a biased RDM, lol, with Monk up to 30), but by the time you collect all your AF it should be second nature to all you skilled DD professionals. Go Monks! :)
Well, you have somthing to that but in like what 4 or 6 lvl af body has an increase to Chakra and maybe +to Vit but I can't remember. All in all this is < AFv1 body.
And this armor to equal the other armor needs to be good til 75 and do something different that all other armor.
I got this last night, and being lvl 54, it blows. Gaia Doublet blasts this thing out of the water, at 52. At my level, this would only be good in a capped area at 50. I guess it's okay for showing off, but that's about it...
Hand to hand weapon skills are mostly Str based, but beyond 49 all hand to hand weapon skills also have a Vitality modifier as well. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Im a monk myself(lvl.46)and i have experienced being a tank also,i havent used this gear yet but i have the aikido ******* right now (lvl.50 also)and im thinking if you get both the ******* and this gi and the jujitsu sitabaki or masters if your high enough you could be a pretty good monk tank.This is just my theory but it probably wont work cause most people think monk tanks are a joke(i can see how people think that too now that ninja has evolved into a super tank).o wel i just thought i would share my opion.
You my friend dont have a clue about the monk job, monks were once viable tanks, as were rdm/war, and war/mnk. now its all about nin, yes there are better jobs to tank but dont be mistaken monks did use to tank and its not a rediculas idea.
A monks who has capped guard skill, evasion gear and counter gear will be able to succesfully tank low IT-VT exp mobs, thanks to a B in evasion, Guard & counterattack, high vitality monks can do it.
Trouble is there arnt any monks like this anymore, gurad is treated as a secondary skill and lvled on a whim once you reach endgame.
If you took a look on the monk forums you would see extensive guide on how monks can sucessfully tank.
I'm a Galka mnk and I often subtank. True enough MNK should never main tank passed 20 at least. At 20 nearly every thing save mages that sub war is a tank. That's why we all hate the dunes lol.
But often times I have to take the place of a dead pld or nin. Carpus plate armor is good from sub tanking mnk. Add a bit of evd and counter gear and you're good. I don't advice it for anything over T or without 3 +WHM. But 3 WHM 2 MNKs and a BRD might be a good boneing pt.
MNKs might have been a decent talk 1 and a half ago when shield bloke and guard 0ed dmg instead of reducing it. Still to this day I won't figure out why they did that. Was like pld was too good of a tank? I started playing just before that update so I'm confused about that one.
Not to mention throwing in fun goodies like EArth Staff, Counter Earrings, Aikido ******** and.. dare I say it.. Counterstance.
I had a recent bones party at 55 where I tanked (highest def, guard, and vit) with two other mnks, and Rdm/Whm/Blm. Earth Staff with Bserk, Counterstance, and Dodge all on was disgustingly good. I was countering every other attack, and for decent damage, we were doing good skillchains, it was one of the best monk parties I've had.
so all you all saying its useless....i dont think so. personally i dont feel the need to feed people's greed for a mere 4 accuracy. especially when you drop it for AF later on. if you want accuracy and not pay 300k eat some sushi or something.
you want useless....a wooden katana is useless, but even then people check you out to take a look...:)
Absolutely. Before RoZ (Rise of the Zilart) expansion came out, there was not a PLD or NIN to assume the role of tank. Because of a MNKs high HP and Counter ability, they were chosen as the PTs tanks. VIT also plays a role in some MNK WSs, and yes, 8 HP can be a lifesaver. A simple /equip macro makes everything worthwhile. You might also notice that a MNK gets no abilities after Lv50 (besides HP and H2H increases). This is because RoZ came out, they raised the Lv cap, and they added the PLD and NIN jobs. With 2 other jobs to assume the role of PT tank, there was no need to add 'tank' Job Abilities.
No just SAM, NIN, and DRG. SMN was already in it when the game came out because my friend bought the game the week after the release and was so hype about carbuncle.
No, they weren't in the original game. It was released in the US with the RoZ expansion included. In Japan the game was originally released with only the 6 job classes: War, Thf, Mnk, Whm, Blm, Rdm.
The RoZ brought out the advanced jobs, we just got them first thing in America. It changed the whole game dramatically for the japanese.
I think some of you career monks forget that AGI is supposedly a modifier in counterstance effectiveness. And +4 VIT is nothing to scoff at. You guys have a decently hard time finding a pt now as it is, and being able to be used as a better first voke option than you were before is a good deal for you guys I would think. I mean really.....what else could you want. Your already one of the most powerful jobs in the game.
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Posted:Dec 29 2004 at 3:12 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) are you people even monks? this gear is worthless, I would never, ever wear it
You could swap it in when you use Chakra to get the extra 8 HPs of healing. You also might want to use it while farming, since you are generally not worried about Accuracy at tht point. This teamed up with the Aikido Kosh[b][/b]ita is not a bad farming outfit before you get your AF gear.
idk about u guys but i just still feel like we are getting left out again in the long run. cool we can back up tank with this but i havent been in too many parties where that has ever had to happen. so does SE want us to start tanking now??? i highly doubt it. so then why the hell do we get this gear while all other jobs at least get something a lil more worthwhile. like drg they get HP recoverd while healing +1 wtf do they need that for? our hp takes like 5 hours to heal all the way back up. even tho its not that great its still better than this ridiculous excuse for armor XD
OMG Keather is right, BRD AF blows, I'm a lv 57 brd, only reason I have my weapon (paper knife) is b/c my lv 67 smn friend wanted to solo the nm. It's horrible, only decent thing is the gloves. You think you have it bad, try having a quest armor that gives you +10 to your wind element >_>
But VIT is what determines the power of chakra, not only that, but when you have counterstance your DEF is erased when you use it and your DEF is then determined by your VIT, in counterstace Shinobi cant do nothin, were as the Gi gives you SOME form of protection.
And I know people say you can get the Gaia Doublet which comes 2 levels later (With only VIT and no AGI) but you now to ask yourself, would you rather pay for the Doublet? Or quest for the Gi and get it free?
The quest isn't exactly free. You have to show up in AF, then get two pieces of unrelated armor, then get the subligar in Phomiuna Aqueducts. Sure you can sell the initial gear back but at the very least you do lose a little money to due to auction fees, and possible deflation.
Yes, MNKs finally get defensive gear, you say they need +ATK and +ACC but that is what nearly ALL of their previous armor gives :) your Jujitsu Gi is just fine for ACC and theres quite a few +ATK items out there. THIS item is so that MNKs can actually backup tank without taking a beating.
Heres someting else... This armor is lvl 50. If you sub WAR you get Defender at this very level >:) That practically screams "tank". A fine tanking armor recieved at the very level you get an awesome tanking ability!
Should you get hate and need to backup tank while the main regains his...
Slap on Aikido + other defensive stuffs, pump Defender, pump Dodge = B00YA! (^^)b