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MKris HS
# Mar 25 2007 at 5:27 PM Rating: Decent
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All i know is i do HS + Merc kriss combo... and people call me god. =)

lol jk jk..

HS along with a Merc Kriss will give you TP faster then a SAM though. so meh..
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MKris HS
# Aug 01 2007 at 11:15 AM Rating: Decent
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The best application of the heart snatcher IMHO, is with a ton of DEX (I'm at +52 with sushi) combined with Evisceration. This adds an excellent boost to your chance of crit hitting with the WS and more often than not, you'll out do DE and SB with it. I roll with the Blau Dolch/Heart Snatcher combo for murderous Eviscerations especially on colibri. I won't even switch to tp or att gear when fighting those birds. The major increase in crit hits alone draws hate from my regular melee attacks.
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# Apr 12 2008 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
The best application of the heart snatcher IMHO, is with a ton of DEX (I'm at +52 with sushi) combined with Evisceration. This adds an excellent boost to your chance of crit hitting with the WS and more often than not, you'll out do DE and SB with it. I roll with the Blau Dolch/Heart Snatcher combo for murderous Eviscerations especially on colibri. I won't even switch to tp or att gear when fighting those birds. The major increase in crit hits alone draws hate from my regular melee attacks.


You are a moron. Heart Snatcher's Crit%+ is only for the Heart Snatcher, if you are offhanding it, it does not apply to your Blau and therefore not to your Eviscerations. NPC the stupid weapon.
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# Sep 22 2008 at 10:33 AM Rating: Default
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Hey ***** bait, how do you NPC a ra/ex? that sounded way more retarded than what the other guy said you where "trying" to make fun of...
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# Nov 20 2008 at 5:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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iviijin wrote:
Hey ***** bait, how do you NPC a ra/ex? that sounded way more retarded than what the other guy said you where "trying" to make fun of...


You actually can NPC most Rare/Ex items, only specific ones cannot be NPC'ed.

Not trying to be mean, just trying to inform you about something even I did not know for a while.
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MKris HS
# Feb 19 2009 at 8:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Burn =P
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# Mar 13 2007 at 2:00 PM Rating: Decent
lol take that back on mandau :X blau dolch is 2nd best main hand dagger including comparing dps. <.<

Edited, Mar 13th 2007 3:14pm by EvilNarcissism
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# Mar 13 2007 at 1:45 PM Rating: Decent
Heart Snatcher is a good knife considering that the status of critical percentage is an increase of dex, but the delay on the dagger blows >.> Right now I have HS main and Sirocco off hand and its not a bad mix. lol Both are free, rare/ex and the drop rate on HB is easy, but Blau Dolch is the best main hand weapon regardless. Perseus Harp nor Mandau compares to the delay. and if you have sirocco off hand your looking at 328 delay from both put together. Blau Dolch is best main hand dagger and Heart Snatcher is just another thieves collection.

Edited, Mar 13th 2007 3:03pm by EvilNarcissism
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# Feb 15 2007 at 9:18 PM Rating: Decent
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cause ur stupid
My elite combo someday
# Oct 13 2006 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Heart Snatcher & Sirocco Kukri IMO is the best dps combo for the average player end game. Although someone with a Blau Dolch or Mandau would say otherwise, my outlook on this is strictly being the best affordable combo. Both are rare/ex and what you cant show in money, you can show in time dedicated to make a great build.
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main hand
# Jul 30 2006 at 7:35 PM Rating: Decent
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must main hand when doing points
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New Info for Heart Snatcher
# Jul 27 2006 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
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The recent update made a lot of Daggers a lot stronger. New update for Heartsnatcher made it:

DMG: 15 DELAY: 205

and after latent is broken:
DMG:30 Crit Hit Rate: +6%


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Breaking Latent
# Jul 19 2006 at 3:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Triggering Latent Effect

Obtain 500 Weapon Skill Points while Heart Snatcher is equipped in main hand.

Latent effect will afterwards be active even when weapon is equipped in off-hand.

Not all 500 points need be obtained in a single session. They may be obtained piecemeal over any period of time the player chooses.

For a solo Weapon Skill or opening any level Skillchain, you get 1 point.
For closing a Level 1 Skillchain, you get 2 points.
For closing a Level 2 Skillchain, you get 3 points.
For closing a Level 3 Skillchain, you get 5 points.

Info taken from: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php/Main_Page

The only real way to tell if you broke latent is that you do higher damage.
How to know?
# Jun 22 2006 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
How do you know when the latent is activated?
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Open or Close
# Jun 02 2006 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Anyone know if it affects if you open or close Skill chain??


Edited, Fri Jun 2 12:26:58 2006
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Open or Close
# Jul 18 2006 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
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when i was closing SC most of the tiim it was exactly what my WS equaled to i did sharkbite for 845 light was for 845 this kept going every now and then it didnt do it, but that was rare so about uhh lets say 85% of the time it did: Closing WS=SC
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At first...
# May 02 2006 at 2:30 PM Rating: Good
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At first I was ****** my RDM couldn't use this but then thought how over powering my RDM/NIN (or /WAR) could be with this thing plus my critical and STR merits/gear.

...Second thought, nah I'm still ****** my RDM can't use this. lol

yum
# Apr 30 2006 at 1:06 AM Rating: Good
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I just unlocked mine today shortly after dinging 74, it took me about 30k EXP just to get it unlocked. We were exp'ing in the shrine, in sky-just about every 4th hit with my main would be a crit. It is a very nice dagger, if you put the time into removing the latent.
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Don't crap your pants. Base damage ain't > stats
# Feb 09 2006 at 5:12 AM Rating: Decent
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when i was a 67thf, i pt'd with a 68 mithra thf (68 is H.Harpe which is a huge boost in base damage 21->27). Idk if it was b/c im elvaan or what, but my melees were doin just as much damage per hit on the mob. 24 base damage is still pretty good, so if you're so afraid of slowing your tp build ever so slightly go nuts and main hand this dagger.

Edited, Thu Feb 9 04:47:25 2006
orz
# Nov 25 2005 at 2:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Has anyone removed the latent on this?

I know I've done more than 500ws and Points and the latent remains.

Thanx in advance
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RE: orz
# Dec 14 2005 at 2:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Like the other weapons you break, the stats written on the weapon won't change, but it's performance WILL. In other words, after its broken, you should notice that it's doing more damage. Only then will you know that it broke.
But when you check it, it'll forever give the stats of: DMG 11 with Latent effect DMG 24 / +6% like the day you got it.

BTW, you can only break the weapon if it's your main weapon. Doesn't work if it's being used in your off-hand.
Grr...
# Nov 17 2005 at 3:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Is my dagger broken or something? Since I started using it, I've been keeping track of WS and SC I use, using

Solo = 1
Lv 1 SC = 2
Lv 2 SC = 3
Lv 3 SC = 5

And I've added up to over 500. On certain instances when I was uncertain if I closed the SC, or if someone else did, I just put a 1, so it's not that I added extra points when I shouldn't have. And after I hit the 500 I recorded, I went on to do another 30+ Level 2 SC's and it still hits for half my Daylight Dagger in my off hand.

Am I doing something wrong?
eh?
# Nov 14 2005 at 4:40 AM Rating: Default
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Delay 205 is too slow for an offhand dagger (you want somthing that's below the TP floor) and DMG 24 makes it too weak for a mainhand dagger. +6% Critical Hit Rate won't make up for the crappy SAnTA's you'll be doing with this.

Why on earth would anyone want to use this?
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I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
RE: eh?
# Jan 09 2006 at 9:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Maybe because that "anyone" might be a Bard, a Thief not subbing Ninja, or someone else who isn't dual wielding? I, for one, would *love* to have this dagger for my BRD, but alas, it hasn't dropped for me in any of the KS30s I've done. =/
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Maybe?
# Sep 28 2005 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Can the Heart Snatcher and Senjuinrikio be used in conjunction, if you unlock both katana and dagger will both +6% criticals be active if one is on the off hand.
RE: Maybe?
# Oct 30 2005 at 11:33 PM Rating: Decent
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That's what im going to do... Crit hit rate +12% and go all out DEX+... gunna take awhile to break the latents on both...
Critical hit rate
# Sep 27 2005 at 8:51 PM Rating: Decent
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How does the critical rate work?

Let's assume the base is 10% just for some easier math

Is it like something that multiplies:
[Base Critical hit rate] x [1.06] = New critical hit rate
10 x 1.06 = 10.6%

Or is it something that stacks:
[Base Critical hit rate] + 6% = New critical hit rate
10 + 6 = 16%

The second one would be the better one, but I'm not sure how it works. Does anyone know?

latent in off hand?
# Sep 24 2005 at 4:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok thinking about getting this dagger and doing all the work to unlock the latent. My question is does the crit% work in the off hand??
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# Sep 16 2005 at 7:53 PM Rating: Good
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This dagger is so freaking awesome.
500WS points, you treat it the same as your trial dagger, except it takes longer.
Do WS / SC with it in MAIN HAND. You'll notice a huge difference in dmg once it's unlocked.

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# Aug 29 2005 at 2:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Can you break the latent having this weapon in your off hand?
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RE: question
# Sep 21 2005 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
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no. main hand only.
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500 ws or 500 points?
# Jul 14 2005 at 5:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I heard that you need to do 500 ws to break the latent, not 500 points. Anyone know?
RE: 500 ws or 500 points?
# Aug 22 2005 at 1:48 PM Rating: Decent
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yea 500 ws.. if you light sc 100 times it will brake the lantent off
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RE: 500 ws or 500 points?
# Aug 30 2005 at 3:03 AM Rating: Decent
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your response it very contradicting. 500 weapon skills is totally different than 500 points. maybe someone else can answer for us.
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RE: 500 ws or 500 points?
# Sep 06 2005 at 6:43 AM Rating: Decent
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It takes 500WS Points, meaning you need to close 100 chain 3s, or 250 chain 2s, or do 500 solo ws and various other odd combinations.
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RE: 500 ws or 500 points?
# Sep 21 2005 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
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thank you, sir.
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RE: 500 ws or 500 points?
# Aug 22 2005 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
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yea 500 ws.. if you light sc 100 times it will brake the lantent off
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<3 the name ^^
Another place to find it
# Apr 03 2005 at 3:47 AM Rating: Good
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Got this as a drop from Double Dragonian KBC30 a couple nights ago.
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# Feb 03 2005 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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<~ ^^

sorry, i was amused.
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