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# Dec 04 2008 at 5:07 AM Rating: Decent
It is very imperative that EVERYONE bring many reraises to this fight. Not just 1-2 charges, like 6-10.

On the way to the fight, you must farm dragons beforehand to get a Giant Scale, which allows access to the area in which these NM's dwell. And it's also worth noting that this is NOT an easy drop without Treasure Hunter.

You CANNOT pull these flies individually. I personally recommend taking 4SMN 3BLM 1PLD 1WHM at least. Leave the WHM at the zone just before where the Dobsonflies are for the initial pull, for insurance reasons. Have Paladin do the initial pull with 2 hour up, the SMN all 2 hour the flies when they're all gathered around the PLD, and have an order for BLM's to Elemental Seal + Sleepga in case something goes wrong. Because, IF something does go wrong, you're stuck there for 2 hours waiting on that awesome Job Ability. Or you can just fight them 1 by 1. The WHM is insurance, in case the initial 2 hour doesn't work, and SOMEBODY forgets reraise, they won't have to sit there dead the entire time because of the lack of any extra Giant Scales. The WHM can join the party after the initial pull, to help out with cures or whatever, if indeed you are stuck fighting them 1 by 1. The flies are pretty resistant to Sleepga, too. So Elemental Seal is sort of a necessity.

I've seen a couple japanese BLM try and solo. By starting off with reraise, a high dmg nuke, immediately followed with a Bio II, die, Reraise, Bio II, die, repeat. I never seen any of them succeed, although to me, it seemed like it maybe could work.

OH, and the ToD of the LAST fly dead is considered the ToD. And you must be on COP 2-5. Every fly will NOT drop an item. The drops are sometimes odd, some runs you'll get tons of rings, a few bandannas, a couple of sallets. Some runs you'll get tons of bandannas, no rings, a sallet or 3. Out of the 6 runs I went on, I seen 2-3 Sallets drops, 0-5 Rings, and alot of bandannas. Meaning, one run, 0 rings dropped. One run only 2 sallets dropped.

Every run we had Treasure Hunter on a class that was able to get aggro on EVERY mob. The Paladin won't work because he's only getting hate on 1 fly, not all 10.

Edited, Dec 4th 2008 8:19am by Codemanxx

Edited, Dec 4th 2008 8:29am by Codemanxx
Got it!
# Dec 01 2006 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Just did this last night with 7: NINx2 BRD BLU SMN WHM SAM(me)

We went in, and there were 9. So we pulled, and somehow the SMN neglected to say, "I still have 8 minutes left on 2hr timer." No big deal, but we got one down then wiped. lolBandana. I tanked them quite well as a SAM with Seigan. I was the last one to die.

So after we were raised, rested, and READY, we cleared the clusters nearby, then had NIN voke-pull, SMN Astral Flow Diamond Dust, and BRD Horde Lullaby. I set an /assist macro for our NIN, and we picked them off one at a time while we waited for the next Astral Flow.

Ended up with 9 Bandanas, 5 rings, and one Sallet. We're going again tonight when they're up. Very much worth the effort. I would rather do this than pay way too much for a Sniper's Ring. 1mil? No thanks.

Jaeger<3
# Oct 14 2006 at 6:08 PM Rating: Good
Got this off the second Dobsonfly kill, a nice moneysaver right here, 1 less acc and racc, no -eva or -def. A sure fit in a Rajas + Jaeger combo, as I see many use.

Another piece in my rare/ex set, ever growing as it is :D

Peace
Steps in getting this
# Feb 21 2006 at 8:27 AM Rating: Decent
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I want to get this for my Dark Knight. I know that you have to get this through a ENM battle and to do the three Promyvions.

I haven't done the Promyvion yet, but I will soon, and thought about going WAR/NIN for that. After doing all three promies I'm not sure what to do next in order to get to this ENM battle. Can someone help me?
RE: Steps in getting this
# Feb 25 2006 at 4:23 AM Rating: Good
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You can get this once you're on the next actual CoP mission (not counting the cutscene 'mission') after you've defeated the Minotaur in Phomunia Aqueducts. After killing the Minotaur (and going to get the cutscenes in Phomunia Aqueducts) you have to talk to a few NPCs in Tavnazian Safehold for a few more cutscenes. After that you will need to check the 'Dilapidated Gate' in Misareaux Coast and see another cutscene; then go back for another CS in Tavnazian Safehold. After this, you'll be on the correct mission to be able to enter Riverne Site #A01.

If you're still working on the first 3 Promys you've got a decent amount to do yet.

Edited, Sat Feb 25 03:25:39 2006
RE: Steps in getting this
# Feb 22 2006 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
this doesnt come from an ENM...i fact it even says at the top of the page its dropped off a mob in riverne site #a01
Do you need an alliance?
# Jun 04 2005 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Do you need a full alliance for this?
RE: Do you need an alliance?
# Jun 09 2005 at 7:16 PM Rating: Decent
No, a group of about 4 SMNs and a PLD can kill these.
Do you need an alliance?
# Jun 04 2005 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Do you need a full alliance for this?
Dont need a smn for this...
# May 02 2005 at 6:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Well i just got mine yesterday thanks to my ls^^ Whispers of Altana

I would just like to note to all of you who are looking to get this...you dont NEED smns to do this, ive killed all 10 twice with my ls and we didnt have any smn use any 2 hour. These flies can be killed just like any other mobs that link...and they will link no matter what you try to do.

First time the drops were good, 4 rings and 2 sallets, second time only 1 ring and 1 sallet. Anywho good luck on getting yours and dont go leveling smn to 40 just because you will be wanted more to camp some NMs that are always there due to the fact the items are Rare/Ex and 10 mobs drop.
RE: Dont need a smn for this...
# Oct 10 2005 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
Well.... if u did it without smns, mind posting what you had? what kind of pt set up and any strads? thank you
RE: Dont need a smn for this...
# Nov 19 2006 at 12:23 AM Rating: Good
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I did this tonight with 2 Nins, 2 Thfs, 2 Blms, 1 Whm and 1 Mnk. Our stratagy was this. Pull them to the displacement, have one BLM ES Sleega. Go full out on the pulled one and as soon as its dead hop back thru the displacement. Wait 20 secs for hate to dissapate then re-enter and repeat till all 10 are dead.

We ended up with 10 headbands, 3 Sallets and 1 Ring which I won the lot on! GL, hope this helps anyone who plans on giving it a go.
RE: Dont need a smn for this...
# Nov 22 2005 at 7:39 PM Rating: Good
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We did it with 8 people on the way to the mammet BC, so we used no 2hrs or any meds. Party was: NIN NIN WHM WHM BLM RNG WAR RDM

We'd unleash on one while the blm ES+sleepga'd the rest, then target another one (using /assist) and attempt to wipe that one out too. Then we'd essentially wipe, get up, and do it all again. I think we wiped and reraised about 3 or 4 times, but we got them all down in the end. No sallet, but we got lots of bandannas and 4 or 5 rings. Damn fun, and very worth it ^^
SMN Pull?
# Apr 13 2005 at 6:24 PM Rating: Decent
I appologize ahead of time because im sure that my request is likely not sensible. I have not yet completed my promyvions nor the aquaducts and consequently have never been to this area. My question is, (without having seen the spatial relation), could a smn use its summon to pull just 1 at a time? or are they all too close in that they would still link?
SMN Pull?
# Oct 23 2006 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
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They all link from across the entire island, so unless you managed to one-shot them, they would eventually all link.
@_@
# Feb 14 2005 at 9:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I must get SMN to 40 now. And RNG to 30.

SMN so I can be one of the lucky SMNs to nuke these guys...

And RNG so I can get through the Promys.

I HAVE A GOAL!!!
RE: @_@
# Feb 22 2005 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
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or just go as your THF... It can be done if you play it well.
RE: @_@
# Feb 21 2005 at 3:38 PM Rating: Good
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Or just take SMN to 40 since they are just as sought after as RNG in Promys.
level?
# Feb 03 2005 at 6:25 PM Rating: Decent
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What level is this?
RE: level?
# Feb 08 2005 at 1:41 AM Rating: Default
dont know why allakhazam doesnt have this posted.. but level isnt 0, it is 34. I was in a party today with a nin that was wearing this asked him how hard it was.. (im sure its been posted.. but) he told me you need at least one pld and 2-4 smns in pt using astral flow, i want this so damn bad but i dont have CoP so i wont be getting it anytimes soon.. but to those to you that have this </praise>, rock on ppl
Sleepga?
# Feb 02 2005 at 11:01 AM Rating: Good
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Has anyone tried treating them like a BCNM 40 and have a Bard sleep them all while fighting them one at a time?
RE: Sleepga?
# Jun 25 2005 at 6:15 PM Rating: Decent
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I had thoughtof this too, but you need to consider hoe BCNM-40 : Steamed Sprouts goes. They eventually wake up, and the brd takes a beating untill he sleeps them again. mandies dont hit very hard, however i'd assume an IT fly, let alone a NM, would hit signifigantly harder.

There may be a simple trick to beating them all without having a very specific setup, or death>reraise, but try to keep in mind, the term HNM refers to the monster's dificulty. Just because your in a 40 cap area doesnt mean these guys take less skill to defeat.
324
# Jan 31 2005 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
they should have made it a 6 hour re pop, not 24, because that means that its still more conveient to get a snipers unless you are fortunate enough to find them AND kill them.
RE: 324
# Feb 01 2005 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent
Actually SE did good. Since this is EX, gilsellers won't be after it (completely useless to them), meaning that the only people trying to get it will be people that want to use it. And since there are 10 of them every 21-24 hours, that really makes the repop time equivilent to about 2-2:30 hours.
RE: 324
# Feb 13 2005 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
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They all spawn at once every 21-24 hours, for one thing. And secondly, making this ex was a good idea, but the stupid part was making it so freaking hard to get that people would just rather buy a Sniper's Ring anyway. :P First you have to get all 3 Promyvions done, which is not something many people have been able to do, and then you have to finish the mission in the Phomiuna Aqueducts, and THEN you have to get a PT/Alliance (who all also have to have done all this) together to go hunt this, since the area has a level 40 cap. Then you have hope to God that it's spawned. And then you have to worry about actually being able to kill them all off. Soo... it's not hard to see why so few people have this ring. >.>
RE: 324
# Feb 02 2005 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent
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if you only kill one, it won't respawn. you have to kill all 10 before any of them will respawn.
nice ring
# Jan 30 2005 at 2:01 PM Rating: Good
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i have to say, this ring is better than the snipers, no def loss and dark resist, and only 1 less acc
wont cost me 9836458743658346872453548 gil either ^^
nice ring
# Jan 30 2005 at 2:01 PM Rating: Good
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i have to say, this ring is better than the snipers, no def loss and dark resist, and only 1 less acc
wont cost me 9836458743658346872453548 gil either ^^
true
# Jan 29 2005 at 9:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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very easy... although I like the fact that I'm one of the rare to wear that ring, I'll tell you what I know to ruin some Archer's ring Gil Farmers..........

NM is in G-11 in Riverne - Site #A01.

You will need only 1 Giant Scale to get there.

There's 10 CArmine Dobsonflys on the island, and they all link, where ever they are, and however you pull. pull 1, get all 10 and die ^^.

Area is caped at 40, and requires you to have done all 3 Promyvions and Phomiuthing Aqueducts

Get at least 1 PLD and 3 SMN in PT/alliance.

Carmines don't aggro, yo you may want to clear the bombs around so they don't aggroe when you don't want them to.

PLD voke 1 carmine, and call Ivincible.

The 3 SMN cast Shiva and use AStral Flow(before they engage).

All SMNs send avatar on the Carmine the PLd innitially voked (all 10 cvarmines should be on PLd by then)

All SMNs use Diamond Dust.

All CArmines are dead.

Be carefull though... as a SAM, I pulled 1 to save a SMN... I died in 1 second when all 10 NMs went on me ><

Drops we got:
10 Dobson Bandana(each Carmine droped one)
2 Jaeger Rings
1 Voyager Sallet

have fun... ^^

Edited, Sat Jan 29 21:17:37 2005
yeah i heard about the NM too
# Jan 29 2005 at 2:13 PM Rating: Default
i wanna stab him
how do i get it?
# Jan 28 2005 at 11:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I've seen a few people on Unicorn with this ring but nobody wants to say how or where they got it. The same with the Rare/Ex bandana which they also had on. I assume they got it somewhere in CoP areas.
RE: how do i get it?
# Jan 29 2005 at 2:14 AM Rating: Decent
21-24 real or game hours?
RE: how do i get it?
# Jan 29 2005 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
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I have not been to this location but its generally safe to assume that its real life hours, very few people list NM timers in terms of game hours since i'm sure many of them do what i do for repop times - stopwatch.
RE: how do i get it?
# Jan 29 2005 at 1:16 AM Rating: Good
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It, along with Voyager Sallet and Dobson Bandana, drops from Carmine Dobsonfly, an NM in Riverne Site #A01 (which has a level 40 cap and can't be accessed until Promathia mission 2-5). The NM pops once every 21-24 hours, and around 10 'copies' of the NM spawn around him and link with him, regardless of how he is pulled or how far away they are from him.
RE: how do i get it?
# Jan 29 2005 at 3:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Here's my question tho, do they all drop? or does just one?
RE: how do i get it?
# Jan 30 2005 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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they all drop
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