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One of the best.
# Feb 28 2009 at 7:03 AM Rating: Decent
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This sword pretty much ties for best non relic. Naglering and Algol are just about the same.
Would still like this
# Feb 07 2008 at 10:29 AM Rating: Decent
I really would still like to acquire a Subduer. I happen to be working on Upgrading my Relic great sword and currently have Dynamis Blade, and close to Valhalla. If I finally get Ragnarok, then awesome, but until then, I'd really love to have this in its stead.
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# Feb 03 2008 at 12:35 AM Rating: Decent
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No WS do not count in the past while doing Campaign, I have already tried that and, and does not work.
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# Dec 31 2007 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
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can the 500 points be obtained in campaign people say u can do it in beseiged but skillups are canceled in campaign so can it be done?
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# Jan 09 2008 at 7:37 AM Rating: Good
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I believe you have to get direct xp from the mob once it dies in order to obtain WS points.
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very nice
# Mar 07 2007 at 2:14 PM Rating: Decent
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This has to be the best GS in the game, or at least resonably attainable... (See Ragnorok, and the one you get from Cerberus with the triple attack) 85dmg @ 444 Delay is sick.... and 6% Crit topped with the 3% I've already Merited is insane. Too bad you cant macro Weapons in for WS though, because the +4STR and +2INT is very nice for Ground Strike and Spinning Slash.
How do I know?
# Jan 10 2007 at 2:23 AM Rating: Good
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How do I know when the latent effect on this has been worked out of it? I THINK I'm done with it, as I seem to be critting and my atk difference between this and Balin's sword is only two when I switch between the weapons, and that makes sense because while Balin's sword has one less damage point, it gives +4 strength.

Aside from "it appears to be gone" is there any way to tell definitely?

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Breaking Latent
# Jul 19 2006 at 3:50 AM Rating: Decent
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Triggering Latent Effect

Obtain 500 Weapon Skill Points while Subduer is equipped.

Not all 500 points need be obtained in a single session. They may be obtained piecemeal over any period of time the player chooses.

For a solo Weapon Skill or opening any level Skillchain, you get 1 point.
For closing a Level 1 Skillchain, you get 2 points.
For closing a Level 2 Skillchain, you get 3 points.
For closing a Level 3 Skillchain, you get 5 points.

Info taken from: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/index.php/Main_Page

dynamis?
# Apr 17 2006 at 8:34 PM Rating: Decent
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anyone know if the latent effect on this series of weapons can be worked off in dynamis? those are technically above 'easy prey' but no experience garnered.
RE: dynamis?
# May 25 2006 at 3:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Some Dynamis shells will kick you for getting points on a weapon like this to unlock. or using a trial weapon... or skilling up a sub weapon. Don't know if you get points are not in dynamis tho.
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# Mar 23 2006 at 8:41 PM Rating: Decent
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How are you able to tell when the latent is activated? Will the description disappear from the sword entirely?

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Hold on
# Feb 27 2006 at 12:03 AM Rating: Decent
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So if I was to get this weapon i could use it with LvL 1 DRK i could use it solo with out using latent affect or with out WS or SkillChains
RE: Hold on
# Mar 22 2006 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
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no, its still a lvl 72 weapon. Your dark would have to be lvl 72 to equip it, and then build up "points" by doing WS to activate the latent effect
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LE trigger
# Jun 29 2005 at 9:01 AM Rating: Good
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The trigger to make the LE permanent (instead of just kicking in during WS's) is probably to do 500 "points" worth of WS's with this weapon equipped, a la the HeartSnatcher and other BCNM-only lv72 EXR weaps or the Trial weaps.

Edited, Wed Jun 29 10:01:37 2005
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RE: LE trigger
# Jun 30 2005 at 3:34 PM Rating: Decent
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The latent is triggered after 500 WS points. The critical hit rate 6% plus the 3% in merit points is insane. Darn that taru looks good >.>
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# May 04 2005 at 11:06 PM Rating: Decent
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holy crap, 72 damage for a lvl 0 sword??? thats crazy
Latent~
# Mar 04 2005 at 2:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yup works exactly like the Trial weapons except.. you need 500 WS 'points' thats 100 lv 3 Skill chains <.< when that is fufiled the Latent turns into a normal effect, this is the best GSD imo :X beside relic of course >.>;;
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# Feb 17 2005 at 1:20 PM Rating: Decent
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According to FFXI.Someplace It's dropped in an uncapped BCNM At Horlais Peak. The BC names is "Double Dragonian."

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where?
# Feb 17 2005 at 9:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I was thinking..where do u get this sword?
and what actiavtes its latent?
looks like a decent sword.
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latent effect
# Feb 17 2005 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
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how dose latent effect work and are all latent effects the same? i thought it had something to diw with helth
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RE: latent effect
# Feb 18 2005 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
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There is a constant misconception on what latent effect means. All it means is that an unknown trigger is required to activate the ability. E.g. the lvl 30 Job rings require the correct subjob. The lvl 50 gear is (I am not lvl 50 so I can not confirm this) require yellow health. Then there are other times that seem to have no identifiable trigger. It would be cool to see the trigger added to the item descriptions as they are found so people don't have to spend 1/2 million gil on an item to find they are not in a position to trigger it (e.g. only activates on certain weather, or at a specific time or moon phase... not saying there are any such triggers:).

Anyways, I would believe the previous post about the trigger being 500 kills... Which, if that is the case, I would attack it like the Drk sword and just go to the most populated area and just kill like mad... Or help any low lvl nins in your ls to get bead necklaces:)...
500
# Feb 17 2005 at 7:10 AM Rating: Decent
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I believe i read somewhere the latent effect activates after killing 500 monsters with it. I don't know if they have to give exp or not.
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RE: 500
# Feb 20 2005 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm going to take a guess and say that these stats look VERY similar to the new Destoyer H2H weapons.

The current "rumor" regarding the removel of the latent effect is similar to the Trail weapons. The last "update" to this rumor is that the latent effect is "toggled" on and off (Ex: 500 ws point scale value, like the trail weapons, to trigger it, and 500 to take it off again)


After seeing this weapon...I have a feeling we are about to see more weapons in other classes that have the same "latent" effect dmg+ and % crit. We shall see though...
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RE: 500
# Feb 19 2005 at 7:20 AM Rating: Decent
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i heard a similar rumor but it was 500 SKILLCHAINS alot like the trials weapons .... i dont believe it.
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