I just got my Halcyon rod (took me a while to switch since I fished pre-patch on my previous character before and was partial to the Mithran) and noticed something, I could EASILY catch (hook and pull in) fish well above my skill lvl (i.e. Gold Carp), something I couldn't possibly do with my Mithran. At my skill lvl (15 atm on this cha) I'm after Quus to skill on so i decided to do a lil test with the rods and this is what I feel people should know other than the very vague comments by people on these rods:
The Halcyon by far beats the Mithran rod since it can actually hold a fish on the line for very close to a full minute unlike the mithran which "may" hold the fish for 30 seconds and not only that the Halcyon WILL deplete the fish's stamina quickly, only about 2% slower than the Mithran so all in all, save yourself the frustration of losing almost every fish you could skill on to either the "too small" message or the "lost your catch" message because of the Mithran. The Halcyon is only a few K more than the Mithran anyway and itlle pay for itself in prolly one good skill-up session... even if you NPC the fish! XD
(if ya don't believe me grab each rod and try for yourself :p)
This thing Is amazing, Im lvl 14 and it only ever broke 1 time(I fish for gil not levels,so Im fishing for fish far above my lvl and thus why I have low skill), It was somewhere near PUP AF quest's "creepy ghost boats". Think it was a arrowhead log or coral.Anywho this will fish up small>larges np, if it dousn't have the "!!!" it will catch it.
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I have a keyboard (obviously, lol) but I usually play with the Xbox360 controller. How do I fish with this? I have yet to catch a SINGLE fish, my line always breaks, so maybe I'm not using the controller right. I'm already a lvl 15 monk. Appreciate your comments.
Ok, this is sort of a late post. Halcyon means prosperous. So this rod is meant to catch more fish. From trying it out vs a Taru rod. The results are what you expect. More fish, more consistently. Also so far, no breakage. Its seems the trade off for more fish, is slower skillup.
If you're using a keyboard, you reel in the fish like this: Behind your character, using the Numeric Keypad press the 4 key if the rod is going to the right Press the 6 key if the rod is going to the left
Facing your character, using the Numberic Keypad press the 4 key if the rod is going to the left press the 6 key if the rod is going to the right
I've been useing this rod since it came out. I've broken many. But I just keep getting them, because I think thier one of the more reliable rods. Besides the Lu Shangs and E. Rod. It can easily catch small fish, and can compare to a Comp. Rod agianst a bigger fish. If I ever recomended a rod this would be the one. [Alchemy resynth lv is around 75-80.]
I have used the Halcyon for a while now (lv55 fishing) and it has not broken ONCE on a small fish. It is not designed for large fish, as it will break easily on them. This is definitely one of the best rods, besides the Lu Shang, for catching small fish.
The only downside to the Halcyon (as QT mentioned below) is that it takes longer to drain the stamina than with a wooden rod.. but I prefer the longevity of keeping a fish on over that. (Albatross ring ftw!)
People keep on telling me that this is one of the best rods in the game. I tried it out and I didn't really see much difference in the field of carping.
In terms of "better," it depends on what your plans for use are. Composites are labelled for "big fish" although it is very possible to catch small fish with it. But small fish tend to not bite quite as often, and you will get msgs that the rod could not pull it up.
Halcyon and Mithran (also targetting big fish) are practically at the same level. Halcyon is a bit more durable, just a bit. The main differences is that Mithran is wooden and Halcyon is synthetic. Since it is synthetic, it takes longer to drain the fishes stamina as opposed to wooden rods ... but it can keep the fish on the line a bit longer.
Can still break on large fish, rusty items, arrowwood, and coral fragments. I personally have not seen a difference between the "too small" msgs of mithran vs halcyon.
You may not notice a difference on moat carp, mostly because moat carp are a low level fish that would not be worth catching if it was not for the quest.
However, go jump on the ferry and see if you notice a difference. I sure did.
I used this rod and a composite rod until I got my Lu Chang's rod. This rod is awesome for anything that does not give you !!!. If you are fishing for something that gives you the !!! message, then I use my composite. Between these two rods, you do not need any of the other rods until around fishing skill 50 where Lu Chang's rod becomes a must have.
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well, i fish for lu before i skill fishing (seriously, you think to find lu in ah, it like a dream at this era of fishing in that game, i have the money for pay lu in ah too)
ok, ppl may say i'm fool, but i use that in knightwell, the trick?
it break on arrowood log, and that only fishing log is alway in a !!! message
i can kill all mob i fish there, the only reason i dont fish !!!, it to not break my baby
Just use a Fastwater Fishing Rod if you're trying to fish moats at Knightwell. It's equally as good as a Halcyon is there and you can bring multiple backups without hurting your budget.
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i thought the Hume rod was the best, but recently I broke it for the 3rd time, but it did last me a long time. I recently bought Halcyon for 32k in windurst on Ifrit server. I hope it's worth my investment cuz i get tired of switching between hume and composite and still not being able to pull up fish very often during a boat ride. I'm fishing 32.
will this rod break on noble ladys blutail and cone calimary?
No, it won't. At least it hasn't happened to me yet with fishing gear and fishing skill of 22.7.
The problem for me is being able to deplete the stamina bar of the fish and subsequently land the fish, bluetail or Noble Lady, before receiving the message: "You lost your catch".
It will also pull up the Cone Calamary with no problems.
I catch the aforementioned fish with the Halcyon rod and a minnow.
I really want one of these rods, but they are never in stock in the ah, if anyone on the Fairy server has one that they would like to sell please let me know, send a /tell to Bigimus, i will bay up to 40k for the rod.
I bought this rod, used it for a few minutes in sandoria, then immediately took it to Sea Serpent Grotto to try fishing nebs. Want to know what happened??? The freaking thing broke within a few casts. This is what I lost that day fishing: 4 shrimp lures (10K each) Halcyon rod (25k) Carbon rod (5k) And a few other things as well. Basically, I wanted to warn a few ppl, stick with a safe bet because testing out what is good or not and what you can fish up is NOT worth the risk or loss of gil. In retrospect, here is a site that may help everyone:
Hmmmm, should not break on nebs. I used it just before retiring on the ferry, with crayfish balls as bait iirc... Anyway, got 4 stacks of nebs (and nothing else...it is a specific neb rod/bait). Maybe the nebs in SSG are tougher????
Awesome item, I grabbed one for 24k in bastok 2 hours ago and it's almost paid for itself already. Also catching a ton more fish and getting way more skill ups. I'm going to try buburimu fishing soon for shall shells and bluetail, hopefully start seeing good profit. I've gone from 34-36 in under 2 hours, this is a must buy for all fisherman out there. Catches fish way above your level, not once have I gotten a "you lost your catch due to skill level" and I've gotten almost a stack of breams. This rod is excellent for small fish, just be wary of the ferry, as I'm sure it's breakable there.
At lvl 37 I was down on my luck and had to sell my Lu Shang's rod. I have lvl from 37-45 with the Halcyon and I must say that I am quite impressed. Pound for pound I still beleive the Lu is the better rod, but gil for gil I'll stick with the halcyon. At least till I can afford another Lu at a higher lvl fishing..
any idea how this rod fairs in town fishing using composit/fastwater(skilling up woodworking on breaks) and i don't get fish to small w/ fastwater but it breaks and the exact opposite w/ composit jus wanted to know. current level is 16 and i have full gear pipra skill up till level 29 in windurst.
At level 9 and under when i was fishing in Bastok Markets i was getting pretty good skill up when i caught Gold Carps using this rod. But i didnt really catch that many, maybe 1 or 2 with 1 stack of paste, 3 if im lucky, and still no Break lol.
It does catch fish faster ,easier and better. But I fished up 2 stacks of gold carp ,And didn't get any skill ups at all.(I am a 42 apprentice at this time.)I switched to my Comp. and fished for a while, caught maybe 6 or 7 golds, got .2 points from that. (Was fishing in windy waters.) so are you guys that say you are lvl 10 and catching golds or lobster or whatever (High level fish) getting skill ups from them?
It does catch fish faster ,easier and better. But I fished up 2 stacks of gold carp ,And didn't get any skill ups at all.(I am a 42 apprentice at this time.)I switched to my Comp. and fished for a while, caught maybe 6 or 7 golds, got .2 points from that. (Was fishing in windy waters.) so are you guys that say you are lvl 10 and catching golds or lobster or whatever (High level fish) getting skill ups from them?
I'm level 68 Alchemy and i broke twice trying to craft this rod, Then i finally got my apron and crafted it, i decided to test it out and now after 2 or 3 hours a day of 4 days fishing in bastok markets with this rod i went from level 3 fishing to level 10 with no breaks, so i guess this is a awsome rod.
Just bought this today,and it broke on a mob at the Nightwell fishing for moat's.Only had it maybe 2 hours.Dint think anything in the Knightwell was that big.Hmmmmm Well ill just keep it till i can repair it.Anyone know the lvl Alchemy needed to repair this? But honestly i had just as much luck with my Glassfiber as I did with Halcyon rod and it didnt break so dont think its worth the price i paid.
egh.. what i once thought was an near unbreakbale rod, has been broken; also in E. Saruta. have no idea on what though, as it was the first time ive ever fished there. bummed me out big time as ive only had for about a day, with about a stack-and-a-half fish caught with it. im also lvl 8.<5 and i got only one .1 skill up in about an hours' worth of fishing. with moats, i skilled up from 3 to 8 in one setting (about 5-6 hours)
Oh jeez hume rod broke on 2nd cast on a gold carp (i would suppose). and Halcyon broke in East saruta, jez its a shame, but still very good rod made for small and big fish (let say medium fish)
actually this rod can nearly compare to Lu Shang Fishing Rod, but it is true it will aim for the highest cap fish, i'm lvl10 fishing and i catch a bunch of Bastore Breams and Bluetails (ogre eel and gold lobsters too)
I borrowed lu shang from a friend and still catch the same.
Halcyon also never broke in 3 days and over than 400 catch.
Sign my own fishing rod thanks to my level of alchemy. I believe they say it's level 74 but I think not. I am at 72 and failed 3:4 on these and with advanced crafting make 3 easily so must be around 75-76 ish maybe even 77 or 78. Takes a fire/inferno crystal, 1 cement chunk, 4 carbon fibers, and 2 glass fibers to make.
Used this rod for fishing in Windurst and caught many gold carps with a shrimp lure and never lost it. No "too small for this rod" either :) compared this with my friend lu shangs and it's just as good :) This is the lu shangs for small fish at 1:1000 of the price :) All I'd like to see now is a rod that doesn't lose lures for big fish.
Lu shangs quest so sucks to do :P least this rod will make it much easier to catch tons o carp.
Great rod, at first i wasnt sure if i shoudl get it but now im 100% positive it was a good investment. In an hour or so ive gotten 5 gold carp bights which i never get, and ive cought them all (at lvl 11 fishign usually my rod breaks, but no.) even when it says thsi is to strong or whatver it astill catches, i dont think this rod can break though since theres no broken halcyon rod spot in AH, same with hume rod, eager to try that rod to.
Ive been using this rod for about the two days and been comparing it to the composite:
This rod will pull up fish like there is no tommorrow and it looks like it was brought out to smoothen the line up to Lu Shangs, however, this rod goes for the higher level cap fish in the area.
Ive been fishing in windhurst walls and ive been picking up loads more Gold Carp then with the Composite, aswell as moats, there is no "whatever hooked is too small to catch with this rod" and no breaks yet
i guess it'll take a while for people to find out how good these new rods actually compare to the older ones... it'd be neat if there was a new "composite" rod equivilent or something that good.
I love this rod, bought it for 20k. i checked Ah again, and it was no longer on sale :( im a 17 fisher and i was bringing up Dark Bass and Black eel almost as easy as mot carp.
The Halcyon by far beats the Mithran rod since it can actually hold a fish on the line for very close to a full minute unlike the mithran which "may" hold the fish for 30 seconds and not only that the Halcyon WILL deplete the fish's stamina quickly, only about 2% slower than the Mithran so all in all, save yourself the frustration of losing almost every fish you could skill on to either the "too small" message or the "lost your catch" message because of the Mithran. The Halcyon is only a few K more than the Mithran anyway and itlle pay for itself in prolly one good skill-up session... even if you NPC the fish! XD
(if ya don't believe me grab each rod and try for yourself :p)
I have yet to catch a SINGLE fish, my line always breaks, so maybe I'm not using the controller right. I'm already a lvl 15 monk.
Appreciate your comments.
If you're using a keyboard, you reel in the fish like this:
Behind your character, using the Numeric Keypad
press the 4 key if the rod is going to the right
Press the 6 key if the rod is going to the left
Facing your character, using the Numberic Keypad
press the 4 key if the rod is going to the left
press the 6 key if the rod is going to the right
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Awww, you should have known that. Level 12 without a subjob is codeword for fountain of all knowledge.
The only downside to the Halcyon (as QT mentioned below) is that it takes longer to drain the stamina than with a wooden rod.. but I prefer the longevity of keeping a fish on over that. (Albatross ring ftw!)
Edited, Fri May 26 08:50:40 2006
In terms of "better," it depends on what your plans for use are. Composites are labelled for "big fish" although it is very possible to catch small fish with it. But small fish tend to not bite quite as often, and you will get msgs that the rod could not pull it up.
Halcyon and Mithran (also targetting big fish) are practically at the same level. Halcyon is a bit more durable, just a bit. The main differences is that Mithran is wooden and Halcyon is synthetic. Since it is synthetic, it takes longer to drain the fishes stamina as opposed to wooden rods ... but it can keep the fish on the line a bit longer.
Can still break on large fish, rusty items, arrowwood, and coral fragments.
I personally have not seen a difference between the "too small" msgs of mithran vs halcyon.
However, go jump on the ferry and see if you notice a difference. I sure did.
I used this rod and a composite rod until I got my Lu Chang's rod. This rod is awesome for anything that does not give you !!!. If you are fishing for something that gives you the !!! message, then I use my composite. Between these two rods, you do not need any of the other rods until around fishing skill 50 where Lu Chang's rod becomes a must have.
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ok, ppl may say i'm fool, but i use that in knightwell, the trick?
it break on arrowood log, and that only fishing log is alway in a !!! message
i can kill all mob i fish there, the only reason i dont fish !!!, it to not break my baby
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I had to log for the night cause I was so distraut. I only got like 3.5 skill points out of it too.
I'm on Titan if anyone can fix it for me, as there are usually not any in stock on a reliable basis.
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calimary?
No, it won't. At least it hasn't happened to me yet with fishing gear and fishing skill of 22.7.
The problem for me is being able to deplete the stamina bar of the fish and subsequently land the fish, bluetail or Noble Lady, before receiving the message: "You lost your catch".
It will also pull up the Cone Calamary with no problems.
I catch the aforementioned fish with the Halcyon rod and a minnow.
and cone
calimary?
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4 shrimp lures (10K each)
Halcyon rod (25k)
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any skill ups at all.(I am a 42 apprentice at this time.)I switched to my Comp. and fished for a while, caught maybe 6 or 7 golds, got .2 points from that. (Was fishing in windy waters.) so are you guys that say you are lvl 10 and catching golds or lobster or whatever (High level fish) getting skill ups from them?
any skill ups at all.(I am a 42 apprentice at this time.)I switched to my Comp. and fished for a while, caught maybe 6 or 7 golds, got .2 points from that. (Was fishing in windy waters.) so are you guys that say you are lvl 10 and catching golds or lobster or whatever (High level fish) getting skill ups from them?
But honestly i had just as much luck with my Glassfiber as I did with Halcyon rod and it didnt break so dont think its worth the price i paid.
I borrowed lu shang from a friend and still catch the same.
Halcyon also never broke in 3 days and over than 400 catch.
Used this rod for fishing in Windurst and caught many gold carps with a shrimp lure and never lost it. No "too small for this rod" either :)
compared this with my friend lu shangs and it's just as good :) This is the lu shangs for small fish at 1:1000 of the price :) All I'd like to see now is a rod that doesn't lose lures for big fish.
Lu shangs quest so sucks to do :P least this rod will make it much easier to catch tons o carp.
Edited, Mon Apr 25 16:34:15 2005
Name: Obokaru
Job: 26 Ranger/13 warrior/30 Monk/8 bst
This rod will pull up fish like there is no tommorrow and it looks like it was brought out to smoothen the line up to Lu Shangs, however, this rod goes for the higher level cap fish in the area.
Ive been fishing in windhurst walls and ive been picking up loads more Gold Carp then with the Composite, aswell as moats, there is no "whatever hooked is too small to catch with this rod" and no breaks yet
Edited, Sun Apr 24 16:52:51 2005
Noble Lady and
Cone Calamary
opps forgot to add bluetail
And I think this rod is way better than the composite rod.
How much skill is need to repair this tupe of rod, anyone know?
Edited, Mon Apr 25 12:19:22 2005
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lol, any word on how they work? other than they seem to make the Dark Bass and Black Eel jump out da water?
im a 17 fisher and i was bringing up Dark Bass and Black eel almost as easy as mot carp.
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