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#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 24 2005 at 2:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The majority of summoner's will agree that "Avatar: Enmity +XX" means that when you have an avatar out, your enmity is increased.
RE: Avatar: Enmity
# Jul 25 2005 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
um.... It does Say Avatar: enmity +5 and as far and the ying yang goes the ying yang necklaces (gorget or whatever) gives bonuses to enfeeb magic and enhancing magic and does not have any know negative effect. my 2 gil
RE: Avatar: Enmity
# Jul 24 2005 at 3:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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I thought it just meant that the emnity of the avatar itself was increased... which owns.
RE: Avatar: Enmity
# Jul 24 2005 at 9:22 PM Rating: Decent
That is what it means. Which is why SMN Horn isnt all that great since it removes Enimty off Avatar.
heh heh
# Jul 24 2005 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
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wow, if I didn't hate summoner so much I so make my goal getting this XD
Ehm...
# Jul 24 2005 at 11:54 AM Rating: Default
Am I wrong in thinking the Refresh effect is usless to a SMN of that Lvl?

I mean, not that refresh is bad, but SMN gets Auto-refresh at lvl 25 do they not?

The MP gain and BP Cut are nice, not to sure on the enmity effect, or Refresh.

Unless Auto-refresh and Refresh stack of course, then I can see why this is a very cool piece of equip. :P
RE: Ehm...
# Jul 24 2005 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Auto-refresh and the added Refresh stack. Using equipment that adds Refresh along with Carbuncle Mitts, HQ Light Staff and Evoker's Ring will allow a SMN to have Carbuncle out and still regain MP. For all the other avatars the added refresh is equivalent to avatar perpetuation cost -1.

At the moment the question of whether the "Avatar: Enmity +5" is added to the player (when an avatar is out),or the avatar seems to be quite a talking point on the SMN boards. Either way this is truely a stunning item.

Personally, I think this has the edge on the Dalmetica despite the slightly lower MP boost. Short of having a Penance Robe for the avatars (minus Carbuncle), I think this would be my body armor of choice.
looks like i found my next objective
# Jul 24 2005 at 3:06 AM Rating: Decent
Lvl 75 summoner here on siren. been playing since the first week of NA release. this is the most unbelievable piece of equipment I have seen for summoner, especially cause i solo NM's alot, and I have been wanting enmity for my avaters, plus the bp reduction in time, and the refresh effect, which kicks so much as*, I cant belive this. looks like i found a new goal, getting this piece. oh and good thing it is rare/ex so that will keep some people from wanting to score some gil, this would cost millions and millions. phew..
wow guys, this excites me, very much. lol. Was this body piece put here from the update, I have never heard or seen this on my server.
o.o
# Jul 23 2005 at 11:33 PM Rating: Good
wow, Eastern style summoner clothing with very good stats.... *is jealious*
spawn time?
# Jul 23 2005 at 10:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Is the mob that drops this a 24 hour spawn or a lottery off other Weapons? I've heard it both ways, just trying to clear it up before I haul a bunch of people out there to go camp it.
its rare/ex
# Jul 23 2005 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
you can't buy it, only get it from drop because its rare/ex. but yes, if it were not rare/ex it would be in the multi-millions for obvious reasons.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 23 2005 at 5:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) For all of you thinking this is insanely good, there is a drawback. Whenever you have an avatar out, you get +5 enmity. You, not the avatar. It's like painting a bullseye on your forehead whenever you decide to do a bloodpact. Probably best to mix this with -enmity gear in a few slots normally reserved for mp.
RE: Enmity
# Jul 23 2005 at 8:10 PM Rating: Good
It says Avatar: Enmity+5, not Enmity+5.
RE: Enmity
# Jul 24 2005 at 1:09 AM Rating: Decent
Yes, it says "Avatar: Enmity +5"

Following SE's normal methods, the : means
"<condition>: <effect>"

Which means when there's an avatar out the wearer gets Enmity +5.

If it was just "Enmity +5" then it would be in effect all the time.
RE: Enmity
# Jul 25 2005 at 9:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yes, it says "Avatar: Enmity +5"

Following SE's normal methods, the : means
"<condition>: <effect>"

Which means when there's an avatar out the wearer gets Enmity +5.

If it was just "Enmity +5" then it would be in effect all the time.


You are 1/3 correct, there are 3 ways in FFXI to read the ":"

<Day/Weather>: <status> which is equal to your's <condition>: <effect> such as the garuda dagger
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=3133


<pet>: <status> for example Smn AF, Drg AF
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<Job>: <status> some weapons gives this effect
such as the Shigeto bow
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=4368

In this case, the Yinyang robe, since is <avatar>: <Enmity+5>
which is <Pet>: <status>.
Meaning is the pet, Avatar gets the status of +5 Enmity when you have this gear equiped

This <condition>: <effect> is only partially correct, it really depends one the subject, <day/weather>, <job>, <Pet> to determin the additional effect.


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RE: Enmity
# Jul 24 2005 at 10:14 PM Rating: Default
if that were the case id be soloing in full AF....however with full AF on i get hate with one 20 dmg hit from my staff after a 2k dmg BP ; ;
RE: Enmity
# Jul 24 2005 at 2:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
Following SE's normal methods, the : means
"<condition>: <effect>"


Two words: Shigeto Bow
RE: Enmity
# Jul 23 2005 at 7:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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I completely disagree.

I have done many Fenrir runs where we have to tell everyone to not use the af pieces with the -avatar emnity. With thoese pieces equiped it is very hard for Leviathan to hold hate. Try it out and you will see what I am talking about.

It would be nice to speculate and say that SE did not royally screwup when they designed some of the AF pieces but unfortunately they did.

I also did a Fenrir run with someone yesterday who had this robe and his Leviathan pulled hate off of all the others with every Spinning Dive. I think SE finally got their act together and is actually giving the avatars +emnity.

There may perhaps be a draw back to this piece but this is not it. All of the new COP pieces which have a built in draw back have always been a a hidden effect. Why would SE label it on this robe and not on any of the others?
RE: Enmity
# Jul 23 2005 at 10:09 PM Rating: Default
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Plus there has to be a drawback to a robe called Yinyang...its all about balance.
RE: Enmity
# Jul 25 2005 at 10:05 AM Rating: Decent
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One obvious balance for this, is the -5/+5 effect

And another obvious one is the balance of beauty stats and the ugly beast look XD
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RE: Enmity
# Jul 24 2005 at 6:00 AM Rating: Decent
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I think this guy is right about the balance thing. Maybe it's hidden though, because that would suck that such a beautiful item has such a crappy drawback. I don't know if anyone would use it, then again, I don't know summoners at all. Hopefully, the enmity is FOR the avatar, not the summoner.
Someone get it and test. Go Go Go!
hmm
# Jul 23 2005 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
If I had a higher Lv Smn, I'd so buy into getting this in the Mission/quest, But I would'nt know where to get one of these anyways...
Nice item though. ^-^
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# Jul 23 2005 at 11:14 AM Rating: Decent
My buddy on the Ragnarok server Raveneo got this drop yesterday and is more or less in love with it.

Kyle
thank god
# Jul 23 2005 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
Atleast its rare/ex so ppl cant push this thing to millions upon millions!
RE: thank god
# Jul 23 2005 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Why shouldn't an item like this be worth millions? it seems like a very good item for high lvl smns.
RE: thank god
# Jul 23 2005 at 3:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Why should an item like this be worth millions. Too many people become very greedy and raise the prices of things to crazy amounts, why do you think so many people are buying gil nowdays? If they want to have the best and don't want to farm they need to buy gil or put up with the BS of HNMLSs.
RE: thank god
# Jul 24 2005 at 11:18 AM Rating: Decent
I agree with ChaosMogul, all this about Gilsellers and HNMLS's is a little stupid since they don't hunt the NM's for fun but for greediness leaving the people who actually enjoy a game like FFXI aside just because they cann't compete against hordes of selfish bastards. ^_^

Go Rare/Ex items!!!
RE: thank god
# Jul 23 2005 at 1:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd rather earn it from drop, instead of just buying it.
Feels better when you actually earned it.
Looks
# Jul 23 2005 at 9:27 AM Rating: Decent
I realllyy want to see how this thing looks xD
RE: Looks
# Jul 23 2005 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
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I think its appearence is similar/identical to the Jujitsu Gi, if memory serves.
0.0
# Jul 23 2005 at 9:23 AM Rating: Decent
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this thing is nice~!
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