They're used in upgrading Ranger AF2, So, they are gotten by people intending to upgrade their pieces, or if they have ranger friends, which is why some people buy stacks, others are just weird and like to buy rare looking cloth =P
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Hunter's Cotton is cheaper to make than Green Ribbons. About 40-50k less per stack actually. The only downside is: While silk cloth is plentyful, Carapace Powder is rarely found in the AH and if you try to make it yourself you will soon find out that the Beetle Shell supply isn't quite what you hoped for either.
So, in conclusion, you'll save lots of gil but it will take twice as much time. Most likely even more.
If you dont have bonecraft to 21, my suggestion would be to lvl bonecraft from 15-21 with the Carapace Powder receipe (wind, 2X beetle shell). This way, you can save some money by making your own Carapace Powders, get bone to 21, AND have a readily avilable supply of one of the ingredients for this synth.
and btw, this synth rocks in comparison to the green ribbon. Much less gil lost ^^
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The lowest price I've got is 2528 gil (this could be fame related though) and so far my best results has been on lightsday facing south west. I got 56 cotton thread from 12 cotton kyahans doing that.
I noticed someone said "do not make these" and their reason being the what you can make back on them. I have made many items, where I would just sell off to an NPC anyway cause I needed room and they weren't selling.
My adive would be to go ahead and make these. The cap is 1 lvl higher than Green Ribbons, but they are easier to make, and I see more skill ups more often, than with the silks. You might not get good money back, but you're also no spending a fortune on silks, or spending ages trying to farm the silks or cocoons.
Please do not make these assuming that you can gain back any more than the 209 gil each an NPC will offer you. There is almost no market for them, as anyone high enough to need one probably has a clothcrafter buddy who will make it for him. I have made 3 stacks of these now, using 3.5 stacks of carapace powder and 10 stacks of cotton thread and raised my clothcrafting skill 2.4 levels (55.5 - 57.9). The skillups seem rather slow and sporadic, but the material cost is far less than silk cloth, especially if you're prepared. Personally, I clear the AH of Beetle Shells and Goblin/Moblin Armors, turning the shells in to carapace powder, and the armor into cotton threads. This brought my bonecrafting up to 21, and I tend to save money on the cotton threads. Also, buying them from the Selbina Guild is very effective, and I've been doing that while I take a few jobs thorugh Valkurm. Even doing this, the cotton threads are harder to come by cheaply than the beetle shells. I intend to get level 58 and have a 2x GP day (Turn in GP items to cap, change rank, do it again), then take it slowly again.
when i craft these, i lose about 150k for every stack of 12... if i lost all of them (actually even if i have all successes it shouldnt make much of a diff XD)
anyway, with silk cloths i lose about 230k if i fail all of them, so these are way better than sil on fenrir
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hi am lvl 57 clothcraft and am busy tryin to make hunters cotton but non AH have any of the powder thing av checked everywhere and non have it soo i have to get my bonecraft up to make it :( and am in bismark well i hope i can get to make the powder soon ;)
since they are stackable they are probobly gonna be apart of a new recipt in an update or even the expansion. it only takes one thread for the af+1 and only 5 for the complete set, there is no other logic why it is stackable if it wasn't gonna be used for further recipts. this is what im counting on anyway have about 5 stacks froms skilling up, and these things are a bitch to sell. if you sell them to npc u loose about 4k in materials. sure its still cheap but i dont wana sell to npc then find out that its up to 50k a stack after the next update.
all i been doing is breaking this things x_x my clothcraft is at lvl 53 and out of like 16 tryes i broke about 10 x_x al lost alot of cotton... grr anyways how can i git alot of cotton thread?
The Guild Shop sells them for like 750-ish each when the price is maxed. If you're quick enough, you can camp the shop and buy at least 6 of them.
You could also desynth Goblin/Moblin Armors with a lightning crystal. You could harvest or buy Saruta Cotton and make them. Or just buy the threads from the Auction House, which would be the most expensive way, but quickest/easiest.
since on fairy the price of sartuta cotton is absurdly high (like 2 x the price of the thread or some stupid crap like that, idk the exact) I usually <steal> it from Mandragora... Tiny Mandragora will only give you 2 leaf buds but the bigger ones in sarutabaruta, as well as the ones in the canyon and bubu all have cotton thread to steal. I started as a lvl 30 thf and I miss maybe 1/10 times. Only sucky part is you have to wait over an hour to steal a whole stack, but if you harvest while you do it then you can get materials pretty quick and cheap.
I asked my LS the other night and someone mentioned it's use for AF+1 gear. My guess would be Ranger >.>
Edit: Looked up sailcloth and someone claimed it's use was for thf AF upgrades. Would be worth finding the other AF upgrade items to get a market going.
It seems to have little purpose at the moment other than skilling up.
Maybe it will be used in armour for future updates (blue mage armour maybe)
Im wondering weather you could make a profit by selling it to a NPC (will have to try it later)at least it would be less of a loss than making green ribbons.
I've been crafting a lot of these for skillups instead of Green Ribbons. I can make these cloths dirt cheap since I can craft the Carapace Powders. Now I can craft Silk Cloths and sell them by the dozen for 160k, rather than waste them on Green Ribbons.
I'd like to know what it can make though, so I would know whether to save them or sell them.
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So, in conclusion, you'll save lots of gil but it will take twice as much time. Most likely even more.
75WHM/Garuda
any help???
and btw, this synth rocks in comparison to the green ribbon. Much less gil lost ^^
NIN 37/WAR 37/RDM 37/RNG 37/SCH 37/PUP 18
Merits:577
Cooking/Alchemy/Woodworking/Clothcraft all 60
Goldsmithing 54
Linkshell: ChaoticUnion
Dynamis LS: FaithOfTheFallen
THF BRD BLM SMN BST WHM relic: O
Sozu Rogberry(pre Thf Knife patch): 0/49 ><
Cotton Kyahan from the tenshodo HQ 2500
desynth for:
NQ - 7 cotton thread
HQ1 - 8 cotton thread
HQ2 - 9 cotton thread
HQ3 - 1 linen thread (doesnt happen very often)
I personally farm my own beetle shells in CN, they have a very high drop rate from the blazer beetles.
Smithing 60.0 +1
Bonecraft 60.0
Woodworking 60.0
Alchemy 60.0 +1
Clothcraft 60.0
Leathercraft 60.0
I have made some notes of my desynths:
The lowest price I've got is 2528 gil (this could be fame related though) and so far my best results has been on lightsday facing south west. I got 56 cotton thread from 12 cotton kyahans doing that.
This desynth saved me a ton of gil on cotton threads. I highly recommend it.
My adive would be to go ahead and make these. The cap is 1 lvl higher than Green Ribbons, but they are easier to make, and I see more skill ups more often, than with the silks. You might not get good money back, but you're also no spending a fortune on silks, or spending ages trying to farm the silks or cocoons.
Therefore, I assume there is some use for it?
Thanks for any assistance!
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Lvl 54/34/25/27/15/28/38
Thf/Brd/Nin/Rng/Mnk/Smn/Cor
Cloth 59/Leather 46/Wood 58/Cooking 28/Alchemy 66/Goldsmithing 49/Bone 50
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I have made 3 stacks of these now, using 3.5 stacks of carapace powder and 10 stacks of cotton thread and raised my clothcrafting skill 2.4 levels (55.5 - 57.9). The skillups seem rather slow and sporadic, but the material cost is far less than silk cloth, especially if you're prepared. Personally, I clear the AH of Beetle Shells and Goblin/Moblin Armors, turning the shells in to carapace powder, and the armor into cotton threads. This brought my bonecrafting up to 21, and I tend to save money on the cotton threads. Also, buying them from the Selbina Guild is very effective, and I've been doing that while I take a few jobs thorugh Valkurm. Even doing this, the cotton threads are harder to come by cheaply than the beetle shells. I intend to get level 58 and have a 2x GP day (Turn in GP items to cap, change rank, do it again), then take it slowly again.
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Hate to burst your bubble... but you can't do this.
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anyway, with silk cloths i lose about 230k if i fail all of them, so these are way better than sil on fenrir
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Edited, Fri Dec 9 09:46:25 2005
75BLM/37WHM
76WHM/37SMN
67BST/33WHM
Server: Fenrir
Job: 75 BST
You can start making these for skill ups at around level 55 Clothcraft. The break rate is not that bad.
75BLM/37WHM
76WHM/37SMN
67BST/33WHM
if you sell them to npc u loose about 4k in materials. sure its still cheap but i dont wana sell to npc then find out that its up to 50k a stack after the next update.
75brd/74thf/75bst
You can get the Hunter's Beret +1 by trading the following to Port Jeuno NPC "Sagheera":
- Hunter's Beret
- Chameleon Yarn
- Charcoal Cotton
- Hunter's Cotton
- Ancient Beastcoin x25
1 lightning > 2 saruta cotton = 1 cotton thread.
hope this helps
75BLM/37WHM
76WHM/37SMN
67BST/33WHM
You could also desynth Goblin/Moblin Armors with a lightning crystal. You could harvest or buy Saruta Cotton and make them. Or just buy the threads from the Auction House, which would be the most expensive way, but quickest/easiest.
Jobs:
Rdm75//Rng75//Thf47//Blm40//Bst40//Nin37
Whm37//Drk38//Brd31//Sam37//War37//Blu37//Pld28
Smn20//Mnk15//Drg08//Pup05//Cor05//Dnc00//Sch00
Crafts:
Alch87~~Fish83~~Cloth53~~Gold24~~Smith15
Cook14~~Wood14~~Leather08~~Bone07
Missions:
Windurst:O**CoP:O**ZM:O**ToA:O
Edited, Thu Oct 20 23:04:54 2005
Edit: Looked up sailcloth and someone claimed it's use was for thf AF upgrades. Would be worth finding the other AF upgrade items to get a market going.
Edited, Tue Oct 18 17:51:59 2005
My Current Bazaar
77+1 Bone | 60 Wood | 60 Alchemy | 58 Leather
53 Cloth | 50 Cook | 22 Blacksmith | 21 Goldsmith
Maybe it will be used in armour for future updates (blue mage armour maybe)
Im wondering weather you could make a profit by selling it to a NPC (will have to try it later)at least it would be less of a loss than making green ribbons.
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I wonder what this is used for
When this stuff actually goes into normal usage this is the new synth to level cloth craft instead of throwing away money into Green ribbons.
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I'd like to know what it can make though, so I would know whether to save them or sell them.
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