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How do I get one of these?
# May 26 2006 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
Any updates on how to actaully get this item?
RE: How do I get one of these?
# Jun 28 2006 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
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# May 25 2006 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
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You all fail to see one major point on this piece.. It's the only body piece WHM can use with haste+ on it. xD Nothing great for exping, but a WHM/NIN with..

Blessed mitts (+5%)
Blessed pants (+3%)
Blessed boots (+2%)
Swift Belt (+4%)
Walahra Turban (+5%)
and Nashira Manteel (+3%)
PLUS hasting him/herself (+12.5% I believe)
=34.5% haste
=Nice utsusemi recast times ;o
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I think it'd be pretty nice, though Noble's or Reverend Mail would be better in a lot of cases. It's really too bad the Blessed set has so much enmity- on it.. Tanking as WHM/NIN is fun, and Blessed helps a lot, but hurts your hate-holding ability. :(
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# Dec 17 2006 at 8:38 PM Rating: Default
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cap on haste is 25%
can't go over that... sorry
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# Apr 13 2007 at 8:53 AM Rating: Good
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Gear haste cap is 25%, with march and hastes you can get up to 50% haste on recasts and 70 or 80% on melee attacks.

His gear haste adds up to 22% which is fine. Most melee are in this range with a good haste set.

NIN:
Haidate, swift, turban, fuma sune-ate, dusk gloves. 20%

MNK:
Black belt, turban, haidate. 22%

WAR:
Swift, turban, dusk gloves, unicorn feet, haidate. 20%

THF:
Dusk/homam gloves, homam legs, homam feet, turban, swift, raparee harness. 22%

Add in the normal Victory March + Haste (11% and 12ish%) for merit parties and you have:

NIN 43%, MNK 45%, WAR 43%, THF 45%. Which is fine for recasts. **** NIN/DRK's usually aim for something like this setup to drop Stun recast to 25ish sec.
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# May 05 2009 at 2:45 AM Rating: Default
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you forgot fuma for 25 percent haste on mnk
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Chasuble has some advantages over this
# Dec 22 2005 at 11:12 PM Rating: Default
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It really depends on how you play RDM. Chasuble +1 has +25 mp that this doesnt have and +1 Magic Accuracy. On my server people pay 9 million for a astral earring with 25 mp so having the Chasuble +1 with 25 mp can be pretty good.
Tabard all the way.
# Dec 05 2005 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
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This piece is all about the magic accuracy and dark magic skill. Perfect for stun. Duelist's Tabard is for a tiny increase in speed but I want to make sure my Stuns last


The Duelist Tabard is for the recast time. For the most part, if you're RDM/DRK, you have to have stun prepared for the major fights, and stun often. Nashira is good if you cant get all the duelist's or other gear that may be expensive.

5 dark magic is pretty much neglible on Stun. Chasuble/Chasuble+1 is arguably as good or slightly less effective, but much easier to obtain.

29 Sec Recast w/ Haste+Chapeau
24 Sec Recast w/ Haste+Tabard+Chapeau.
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RE: Tabard all the way.
# Jan 10 2006 at 1:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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The only thing RDM is good for when on Stun duty is Chainspell+Stun. If you're in a stun order the shorter recast time doesn't help all that much. In Chainspell it definetely has no merit. Plus you are neglecting magical accuracy on chasuble and magical accuracy and dark magic skill with using nashira.

Duelist's is great in certain situations but in most times when you are being pointed to chainspell+stun something. I'd rather have it not resist and throw a TP move on me mid chainspell than use something that's not doing anything but looking pretty as Chainspell neglects casting and recast time.

5 dark magic skill might seem neglible to you but combined with other armor seeing as we as RDM have an E rating in Dark Magic, every bit together is useful. Nashira Manteel, Crimson Finger Gauntlets, Abyssal Earring, Dark Earring and Dark Torque lays out to...

INT+2, +30 Dark Magic Skill, & +5 Magic Accuracy.

I'd say the manteel owns it's worth on adding to that alone. Those few seconds more you can add to your stun is worth more than you think.
RE: Tabard all the way.
# Feb 05 2006 at 2:06 AM Rating: Decent
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they really never let you stun without chainspell? sad ._.


How sarcastic... I still Stun outside of chainspell and given it's short casting time already, it's not worth lessening that much more. I'd rather have it stick for more duration than lower it by a few fractions of a second.

Edited, Sun Feb 5 01:08:21 2006
RE: Tabard all the way.
# Jan 10 2006 at 6:14 AM Rating: Default
they really never let you stun without chainspell? sad ._.
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# Dec 04 2005 at 8:31 PM Rating: Decent
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i have a feeling that this is gonna become a sought after piece for RDM^^


This piece really isn't as exciting as the other ones for RDM at least, especially considering its the body piece. Duelist Tabard (fast cast > 3% haste for spells and healing magic + 15) and Chasuble (magic accuracy + 5) are superior and equal to this. Having this would just allow you to sell the Chasuble so no item slot would be saved. I know Im tossing around a Duelist Tabard like its nothing and easy to get for all RDMs, but Im sure THIS is much harder to obtain.


In comparison, the legs for instance, give magic accuracy + 3 and enfeeblig magic + 5, that is Wise Braconi + 1 and a spider torque wrapped into one! Plus it has haste!! That is much more exciting than dark magic + 5 for me at least. So I think this is the least desirable piece for RDM :/
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# Dec 05 2005 at 12:44 AM Rating: Decent
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This is 100% better than Chausuble. The best feature of Chausuble is 5 magic acc...which this has. Not to mention it has 3% haste as well as 5 healing and 5 dark magic. That can mean stronger and faster cures and drains/aspirs/stuns.
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RE: Oooh
# Dec 05 2005 at 1:55 AM Rating: Decent
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This piece is all about the magic accuracy and dark magic skill. Perfect for stun. Duelist's Tabard is for a tiny increase in speed but I want to make sure my Stuns last. Which this is great for helping with. Not only because of the magical accuracy but the dark magic skill will help me land longer stuns. Which is a huge role endgame.

I'm excited to get this myself.
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# Dec 02 2005 at 1:17 PM Rating: Default
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Realy its about the same as rdm subligar jse
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# Dec 02 2005 at 11:13 AM Rating: Decent
i have a feeling that this is gonna become a sought after piece for RDM^^
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I want this gear!!!
# Dec 02 2005 at 11:01 AM Rating: Decent
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How do we go about getting this gear? Anyone know yet? It's been a while since something exciting has happened for whm and/or smn....
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RE: I want this gear!!!
# Dec 02 2005 at 2:45 PM Rating: Good
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Proto-Ultima drops some items which you can trade to an NPC in Mhaura to get this set.
RE: I want this gear!!!
# Dec 02 2005 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
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pretty sure it has to do with Limbus. Similar to the AF+1 and armor upgrades
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