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Mecurial Kris
# Oct 22 2008 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Me and my friend Mystiq recently got drop on Seraph server. Saw someone post:
This fight can be soloed very easily by a level 20 SMN. But in order to do it you need to know the special glitch in order to pull it off. When I learned this trick I went to the Dunes and practiced it out first with normal mobs. Then when I felt ready I switched to SMN and came back for the real fight. It worked exactly the same way as with normal mobs. A very easy solo victory.

But I'm loathe to give the secret away in case it makes the Kris plummet in price. Every man and his dog will try it out and I don't want to let the cat out of the b until I get mine. Sorry :p

The glitch I know of that is by that area is the one when you can go under water. It's near the tree and PS2 system is the one that can utilize this glitch. I wouldn't do it though. If you pair up with someone fishing Marlin and just duo it. You have better chance of getting drops. Also less risk dying. I tell you how to do the glitch. You go side of the tree between the wall and tree line and water line. Slowly walk back and forth until u get in. Then just walk into the water. Pretty tricky really and time consuming. Guess you could get really good at if you practice. Like I said pair up with someone. Because usually one of us alway's have chart on us. Well GL btw it's 3.5 mil on Seraph server if you post after this mind telling me the cost on other server. Thanks and GL
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# Feb 13 2008 at 3:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Did anyone actually try this fight with a party setup of three Monks?
This method was mentioned in one of the earlier posts, and I was wondering if it's really possible to win that way. Otherwise I could just drop my chart, or let it rot in the depths of my storage, since I probably won't find two Summoners to help me anytime soon.
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PT use
# Dec 01 2007 at 5:46 PM Rating: Default
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this dagger is cool from 73-75 in pt
this is because b4 73thf u dont have dragon harness and any mob that u lay into with this thing will spam ws's so be mindful
how good is this dagger?
# Apr 05 2007 at 11:11 AM Rating: Decent
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I've seen a few random posts about how the dagger performs in exp PT's, but I still don't have a good idea about it. I'd like to hear from people who have used the dagger to exp with (thf obviously). I've had a few daggers go through my possesion and what I noticed is that the "occasionally hits 2 to 3 times" seems to fire off a LOT more when it is in the main hand. Off-hand it still fires off but seems pretty infrequent to me. But I have not extensively used it, so I'm curious to hear from people who have. (Enough about how to get it; there are plenty of posts on that. If someone is interested in getting it, DO RESEARCH and stop asking that same question over and over, prease.)

Edited, Apr 5th 2007 12:13pm by OmmyLeviathan
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how good is this dagger?
# Nov 10 2007 at 8:25 PM Rating: Default
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idk about how it would preform in exp pties.....but.BUUUUT... Imagine a drk/nin KC+M Kris.. idk if anyone would do this as Ridill/KC seems to be the way to do.. anyway, if anyone would take the time and borrow/use their own M kris as drk, please post!



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5. Pwn mob?
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how good is this dagger?
# Sep 15 2007 at 10:27 PM Rating: Decent
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If you really want to know. In my experience...

Harpe/M.Kris = Harpe/Blau = Blau/Miser+1 in a parse, same gear/food/etc...


In the end, there are many other options that are obtainable through easier venues than this dagger... now, if you planned on leveling corsair... that's another story. Excellent for popping off ~2 slug shots per fight in xp

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how good is this dagger?
# Apr 18 2007 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
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As far as this dagger goes, on my THF 56 it is amazing. Yes the DMG is low, it hits for 10-20 dmg but i almost always get 2 or 3 attacks with it. combined with mithkabobs and plenty of accuracy gear I always have around 200-250 TP for my sata VB.


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how good is this dagger?
# Aug 02 2007 at 10:59 AM Rating: Decent
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and the benefit of a 200-250 TP VB is?
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how good is this dagger?
# Aug 21 2007 at 12:18 AM Rating: Decent
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longer poison DUH
Odin Server who want to sell this?
# Mar 22 2007 at 11:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi I am playin on Odin Server and I am interested in buying one of these.
I offer 3M for it, if you want to sell it send me a private message or a a /tell ingame when I am online.
where does the nm pop?
# Feb 05 2007 at 10:57 PM Rating: Decent
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where does this nm pop or is it a ??? i'm so confused
easy solo fight
# Jan 07 2007 at 12:09 AM Rating: Default
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This fight can be soloed very easily by a level 20 SMN. But in order to do it you need to know the special glitch in order to pull it off. When I learned this trick I went to the Dunes and practiced it out first with normal mobs. Then when I felt ready I switched to SMN and came back for the real fight. It worked exactly the same way as with normal mobs. A very easy solo victory.

But I'm loathe to give the secret away in case it makes the Kris plummet in price. Every man and his dog will try it out and I don't want to let the cat out of the b until I get mine. Sorry :p
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easy solo fight
# Jan 31 2007 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Thank you for another useless posting.
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easy solo fight
# Jan 16 2007 at 2:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Quote:
This fight can be soloed very easily by a level 20 SMN. But in order to do it you need to know the special glitch in order to pull it off. When I learned this trick I went to the Dunes and practiced it out first with normal mobs. Then when I felt ready I switched to SMN and came back for the real fight. It worked exactly the same way as with normal mobs. A very easy solo victory.

But I'm loathe to give the secret away in case it makes the Kris plummet in price. Every man and his dog will try it out and I don't want to let the cat out of the b until I get mine. Sorry :p




Then what was the point of posting? Other than gloating? Not only does no one believe you, since you offer no proof or details whatsoever, people think youre an *** too. {Congratulations!}
easy solo fight
# Jan 08 2008 at 10:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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lennavan wrote:
Then what was the point of posting? Other than gloating? Not only does no one believe you, since you offer no proof or details whatsoever, people think youre an *** too. {Congratulations!}


Hes not lying, this really is an easy solo for summoner, I'm 0/3 on the dagger now. The plan is simple:

1. Trade your P.Chart
2. Summon Ramuh
3. Use Yag Drink
4. 2HR
5. Wait for the mobs to pop, as soon as they do hit them with Judgement Bolt and then start running like crazy towards Selbina, leaving Ramuh to buy you some time from the NMs
6. Keep running until you have enough MP to resummon Ramuh, then wait for them to catch you and hit them with Judgement Bolt again.
7. Second Judgement Bolt should have taken out the Crab and the Kraken, leaving only the Sahagin with a sliver of health, leave Ramuh on the Sahagin to buy you time to run away again and then make a dash back to the beach.
8. Once at the beach, resummon any avatar and hit the Sahagin with any offensive blood pact, or 2hr if it is still up, this should take out the final mob leaving you with the treasure chest.

I believe there is an area near the cave where mobs have very poor path mapping, and some people use that to there advantage, that probablly the secret he was refering to. But I like to stick to my tried and tested method, I'd rather not risk losing a chart on a a strategy I'm unfamiliar with.

I always have a hoot soloing this fight, you usually get high level characters who are camping the Valkurm Emperor chasing after you spamming /tells (Help) (Do you Need it) not realising its a 20 cap fight.

Edited, Jan 8th 2008 1:51pm by GenryuOfBahamut
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# Jan 04 2007 at 6:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, I finally created an account here after using the information since I started playing some 2 years and some change ago. I must say that some of these people flaming each other and calling each other n00bs is really disappointing. Are these posts being made by adolescents orimmature adults? In any case, most of you seem to have an iron clad view on thief's roles. Very disappointing. Quite frankly I enjoy this game because of the freedom it offers on how you wish to play. Stereotyping jobs directly contradicts the nature of the game. Thief is an interesting job to play because with know-how and decent gear it can be taken in different directions. A thief can put up more damage over time than a dark knight with decent equipment if applied correctly. That's not to say spike dealers are wrong, it's just a different way to play. All you thieves out there wisen up and know that your job has more variety than you might think. Play with it, and focus on what really matters in a game... having fun. None of this flaming others for having different experiences, it makes Major cry ;;.
I was extremely lucky...but it does drop
# Dec 07 2006 at 9:36 AM Rating: Good
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I have done this about 20 times now and I'm 3/20 for the Kris. However I do it with my other fishing buddies and between both of them, maybe another 40 to 50 tries only yielded 1 Kris. So I'm not sure about the statistics of the drop listed here. What I do know is that I did all of my on Full Moon ONLY and they did theres whenever they got the chart, for what its worth...I think that matters. We had 1 BST (ME) and 2 SMN. If one of the mobs resist the 2hr...I 2hr my pet and sic it on the mob with half strength until the SMN can call avatars again. Most of the time the fight is a breeze. Its definitely worth it...I sold all 3 of my Kris when the price was still 30Mil apiece. Hope this helps!!

Edited, Dec 7th 2006 12:47pm by lestatishido
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# Oct 22 2006 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Am I doing this wrong or does it actually frop from the chest. I'm 0:44 now and could have long ago sold all my fish just to buy this kris :P Just wondering if it drops from the chest or you have to fish it up. The npc says you have to have a rod and bait :p
Finally!
# Sep 19 2006 at 8:05 PM Rating: Decent
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At long last finally got this drop. 1/14. 23% waning crescent lightsday. Thanks to Tenakajr for the assist. Too bad I have to sell it to buy my 72 thf gear...would have liked to play with it for awhile.

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used by war
# Jun 29 2006 at 4:50 AM Rating: Decent
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i had a warrior in pt at lvl 64 in uleguerand range use this for off-hand
at first i thought it was wierd that a war was using a dagger but i saw w/ the added attacks by it that he was gainin tp extremely fast and just spamming rampage b/c he had axe in main (of course) so i found that this can be useful by any job that wants to lvl tp fast
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# Jun 16 2006 at 12:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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Okay so I wasn't satisfied when I read about this dagger because I had to do a lot of research blindly on my own. Let me spell it out step by step how to get this dagger.

First you need to get Novice standing in fishing.
Second you need to do Map of Bostaunieux Oubliette quest in Mhaura.
Third you need to do the 2 quests from Oswald in Selbina, The Gift and The Real Gift.
Then you can see Zaldon in the fishing guild and he will gut fish for you to look for goodies inside.
(for the quests you will need a Sand Charm (found off Cross Bones), Shall Shell, Fat Greedie (fished on pier at Selbina dock), and a Danceshroom)

Along the way to get your Merc Kris, you may catch fish that Zaldon will gut and maybe you will find other things but the fish you are looking for are Bhefhel Marlin. The best setup for this is Lu Shang + Bluetail. Being poor as I am I use Mithran rod and it works just fine. I went for about 10 hours fishing without fishing gear and got 2 Marlin. I about gave up until someone gave me 3 pieces (there are 4) of +skill fishing gear. I catch at least 3-4 a boat trip now with lv32 fishing. Also a good time saver, at least at my level of fishing certain messages mean certain things.


---Something caught the hook! + Any message = One "!" means small fish or item, just hit esc and recast
---Something caught the hook!!! + You have a good feeling about this = Monster
---Something caught the hook!!! + You're positive you don't have enough skill to reel this one in = Usually this means give up but I have caught 1 or 2 with this message, I cancel those casts now though because mainly I fail
---Something caught the hook!!! + You have a terrible feeling about this one = Marlin
---Something caught the hook!!! + You're fairly sure you don't have enough skill to reel this one in = Marlin

Remember Marlins are big fish and should be hard to reel in. If the fish's stamina is dropping fast you have a monster, or cone calamary.

Okay so the hard part is over you got yourself some Marlin, now go to Zaldon and trade them one by one. I went 0/44 and finally got a Pirate Chart on my 45th trade and now I'm 0/8. If you are lucky enough to get a Pirate's Chart then you can proceed in the last step in this painful process.

On Whitebone Beach there is a ??? this is where you are going to want to go. This is a lvl20 cap fight limited to 3 people in your party. I did it with 3 summoners. 3 Judgment Bolts kill them all instantly. When you trade you're chart to the ??? you will have 20 seconds or so to summon your Ramuh (or avatar of choice), I am 0/1 on this and I've seen 3 other fights today all of which didn't have the Kris drop.

Battle Tactics:
1. Trade Chart
2. Summon Avatar
3. Astral Flow (remember it's a 3 min 2hr, the fight is literally 5 seconds so have your Astral Flow activated well before you see the mobs appear)
4. Once you see mobs (3 of them) Judgment Bolt all should die or VERY close to it, if one is alive just /assault not a big deal.
5. You're done and hopefull are enjoying your new Mercurial Kris

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/quests.html?fquest=365
go there to see a list of how many charts I got from how many marlin it took!

Rate up took a long time to gather info!

EDIT: Added link to other stats related.

Edited, Mon Jun 19 01:52:18 2006
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# Oct 21 2006 at 11:07 PM Rating: Decent
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After you and a friend astral flow and judgement bolt, if 2 mobs or alive and/or have high hp, you should run to the rock outside of selbina and resummon and 2hr. Running this far will allow you to get far enough away to do so without danger.

I'm 0/42 on this thing and I hate you people who got 1/14. This quest alone has got me thinking what a useless waste of time this game is, and quitting it.
Real Info
# Sep 19 2006 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Eh, don't listen to Grenfang, all that research and a few nit picky things don't matter to me. ty for the work man helped me out greatly ^^ 1/14 on dagger
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# Jul 19 2006 at 4:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Some of your fishing information is incorrect. !!! + Terrible, positive, or fairly can all also be ryugu titan bites in addition to Marlin Bites. If a "Positive" Bite is indeed a marlin, reel it in, don't let it go. You can tell the difference between titans and marlins by the rod action. Titans will have little stam, but move the rod wildly, Marlins will have more stamina, but rod movement will be slower.
Need some Info
# May 25 2006 at 11:46 PM Rating: Default
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How do you get the dagger? What fishing skills do I need to fish it up? How long does it take to "respawn" and what lvl help do I need to beat it or solo it?
Need some Info
# May 25 2006 at 11:43 PM Rating: Default
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How do you get the dagger? What fishing skills do I need to fish it up? How long does it take to "respawn" and what lvl help do I need to beat it or solo it?
1/48
# May 15 2006 at 6:42 AM Rating: Good
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Went 1/11 on this. Now 0/37. If you're not super lucky, even fishing at 2 hours a day, getting this can take months.
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# Apr 29 2006 at 4:17 AM Rating: Good
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got our mercial kris today. Took 96 Marlins. Got 5 charts. Failed twice, got it on 3rd win.
also got some brig charts on the way but who cares.
If you need it, contact me, Sakae, or my partner, Mordakai, both on shiva server
easy win strat to the BC...
# Apr 21 2006 at 10:11 PM Rating: Decent
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2x SMN and a THF or PLD. have all 3 stand right on the ???. as the taru is saying fish up SMN get up ramuh and astral flwo + yag drink. WHne the mob po THF uses PD or PLD use invicnble... SMN then just target and judge bolt the shagin.. no need to assualt. If there no resist on judge bolt on any of the mobs its over in 10 secs. 1 resist ( about half dmg) and you can all stil melle it down. 2 resit i could get harry but that rare. all 3 mobs use hundred fist and hit pretty hard. 3 ppl fishing up marlins you can do this every 2 hours. other start is 3x mnk PT but i prefer the 2x SMN + thf or pld.

drop rate? eh? my static has done this 109 times, weve gotten 4 knifes, so it about 1/25 ( of course you can still get lucky)
this is really easy stuff and no need for high lvls. make a group wiht friends, farm this thing for your knife, dont waste 40+ mil on it, although it worth it lol.
as far as it for THF offhand vs a KC, there has to be some advantage to a THF much higher dagger skill then club skill right? then again how would i know im just a n00b.
#Dauingen, Posted: Apr 19 2006 at 4:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Got pirate chart after like 10 marlin.
General observations
# Apr 07 2006 at 8:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Well here it is i finally got it 1/14 but i tell u what it is definatly worth it.. The knife is a tp'in **** .. Im a lvl 50 thf with 41 fishing skill. Very rare drop btw
Drop rate/general obsevations
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RE: Drop rate/general obsevations
# Apr 07 2006 at 8:28 AM Rating: Default
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bought it
# Mar 25 2006 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I recently bought this from a friend on Sylph
I traded a sniper ring+1 and 15 Mil
Its an awesome weapon and I get tp really fast in exp parties.
I'm looking forward to farming with this as my main and my kraken club, which I got from LoO a few weeks ago, subbed.
Should be outa control..
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bought it
# Nov 14 2006 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
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a sniper ring+1 and 15 mil? jesus christ why didnt u just level fishing and get it yourself lol dont know about your server but on mine just the ring alone is worth more than the dagger,,,, +15 mil o.0
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bought it
# Jul 09 2006 at 1:13 AM Rating: Decent
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That will be out of control. I mean the mob, of course, spamming TP moves.
drop rate?
# Mar 15 2006 at 3:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Sounds like at least a few of you have gotten the dagger! Congrats. For those of you that have it, could you post your drop rate on the fight? I guess i just wanna get a handle on what i'm getting myself into.

thanks!
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The Challenge
# Mar 01 2006 at 9:14 AM Rating: Default
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RE: The Challenge
# Mar 01 2006 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
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The challenge with this quest is the fishing.. I fished for 3 weeks straight to get level 30. I hope the new changes are better. Also i haven't been able to fish any marlins so any advice would help.


Mecurial Kris 0/2 (i have another chart tho)
RE: The Challenge
# Mar 30 2008 at 10:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Marlins are more rare when it isn't a Full Moon. What I do is bring this fishing gear:

Mithran Rod
Halcyon Rod
Minnow
Slices of Bluetail(1-2 stacks of Wind Crystals + bluetail if you have high enough cooking.)

First I use Halcyon and Minnow to catch Bluetail (Avoid !!! fish because they can snap your Halcyon in half). Then I synth them into slices. After that I use the Mithran rod with the slices to catch marlin (Which are !!!). I started this at level 30 skill and with all the fish in between I just hit Fishing level 32. Good luck getting that pirate chart. 0/2 on Merc. drop :_:
Mercurtial Kris
# Feb 24 2006 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
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ok, this dagger may seem godly at first glance... but consider the 8 dmg, you may gain tp like a crazy man, but think of the mob.... 5 bomb tosses a fight? thats my only concern, and you may say, thf have subtle blow, yes i know this, but that wont help much unless u use Rajas ring and Dragon gear, so yes major tp gain, but major mob tp gain, and the fact that it ranges from 30-65+ million gil, o well, and yes i have tested one, i do like it for farming but i prefere to keep my gil instead of usinbg one of these, just my 2 sense
Part 2 Obtaining Mercurial Kris
# Feb 23 2006 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
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best way to win this is for the tank or the none smn job to get hate and have the smns use yag drinks and call Ramuh and astral flow judgement bolt them. 2 judgement bolts kill all but 1 some times the shahagin or crab lives but thanks to the yag drink your smns stay alive and they just go pwon it. once they all die a treasure chest will apear and the person who traded the chart opens it several items will come into the treasure pole like the Frasica thing (lvl20 lance trident) fishing rings some meat and shells and lucky a mercurial kris. i hope this helped. Goodluck on your kris's~

I'm 0/3 on this knife T.T I hope I’ll get one soon.
sorry for the double post but alla wouldn't let me have such a long post :/

Edited, Thu Feb 23 16:08:37 2006
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Part 1 Obtaining Mercurial Kris
# Feb 23 2006 at 4:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Instead of just info on how good it is ill fill you in how to get it. First you need to have into the belly quest in Selbina and thats obtained by 1: fishing skill lvl 40 or 2: do several quest to get to it. once you have Into the belly you must either fish Bafhel Marlin's i believe its 54+ fishing skill or go to a AH and buy a bunch. Take the bafhel Marlin to the galka in the fishing guild (into the belly quest guy) and trade them to him. he will either cut it open and find nothing or he will find a treasure chart. (i've heard you can get another item from opening belly but i havnt seen it) once you get treasure chart take it to white bone beach in valkrum dunes and find a ??? There. I'd advise having 2 smns and a any other job you want to come. It’s a 20 BCNM fight once you trade chart to ??? a taru will apear and start dancing then gets killed by a shahagin, a manta, and a crab.
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RE: Part 1 Obtaining Mercurial Kris
# Feb 23 2006 at 6:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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A. You need Fishing skill 30, not 40, for the quest.
B. You can fish Bhefel Marlins up with 30 skill. I do it with a composite rod and sliced bluetail.
C. Post size isnt limited - it will keep scrolling down as you type.
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RE: Part 1 Obtaining Mercurial Kris
# Feb 24 2006 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Eh, well for me i did the prequest so i was just going by what friends told me on the fishing lvls, and for the post size i tried having the whole thing in 1 but it kept erroring so i decided to put it in 2 and it worked :/
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Kujata 4sale
# Feb 17 2006 at 10:29 PM Rating: Good
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Got one of these today while doing the ring for a fisherman friend.

Selling this on Kujata! /tell Alran in-game! muahaha
wish RDM could use it..
# Feb 15 2006 at 1:23 PM Rating: Default
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SE would never give us RDM/NIN's the sweet pleasure of having this because we would own so well with a Joyeuse in main hand while subing this... oh well.
0 Dmg
# Feb 06 2006 at 3:59 PM Rating: Default
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If I recall correctly SE made a change that so all weapons do some damage, I remeber this specifically because people were sleeping monsters and skilling up by doing 0 damage(which doesnt wake up the monster). If for some reason you are doing 0 it might be from an affect the monster has, like stoneskin or similar ability.

So this dagger would be pretty useful for offhand.

Edited, Mon Feb 6 14:59:17 2006
RE: 0 Dmg
# Apr 02 2006 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
If for some reason you are doing 0 it might be from an affect the monster has, like stoneskin or similar ability.


Not necessarily... if you have an underleveled or ****** weapon you can also do 0 dmg to the mob even if it does not have stoneskin or any other buffs.
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RE: 0 Dmg
# Feb 07 2006 at 1:25 AM Rating: Decent
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no, they changed it do you have to do at least 1 dmg to get skillups.
Um...
# Jan 31 2006 at 9:08 PM Rating: Default
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How can i get thid Quest going? i want this dagger
This thing is bad a?? in a party In my opinion!
# Jan 25 2006 at 7:12 PM Rating: Default
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I can tell you from experience that this thing hits like crazy and I've been using it since 50. Being a Elvaan and equiping this dagger(off-hand) with my main I can keep up with a sam and be ready when he is as long as sata is ready. My main might hit for 30-40 and this will hit usually in the mid to high teens (unless makes a critical hit will hit for about 30)if hits once and if hits more than once well it adds up in damage fast. I bet that if you where the same level as I that the two daggers you use could not enflict as much as mine at my level with this dagger. Ive had no complants yet for using this dagger in a party . Now will it be useful at higher levels i dont know yet but in my opinion when i hit 60 and get assasion (spelling) and sata is split to sa and ta can you build 100 tp in 30 secs with the to daggers u have probably not. At 60 I hope to get a sam/thf in the party and try to keep up with him to make weapon chains every 30 secs but only problem i see is I dont think he can keep up with me. If he can then we are going to run out of mobs pretty fast.

P.s I'll try to keep you up to date with some real damage # in my exp party's as i go.
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# Jan 18 2006 at 4:37 PM Rating: Default
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# Jan 14 2006 at 1:53 PM Rating: Default
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Nevermind, found site.
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# Jan 13 2006 at 7:35 PM Rating: Default
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So how do you get this Dagger? I would like to own one.
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Finaly!!
# Jan 13 2006 at 7:59 AM Rating: Default
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Got mine yesterday~~ w0o0ot, now i just gotta get to 50 so i can try it out ><

43Thf/21Nin btw
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# Jan 18 2006 at 3:07 PM Rating: Default
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what do you have to do to get the Mercurial Kris...i've been looking for it for a long time, but none of the sites actually say anything about how to obtain it, just how good it is.
HAHAHHAHA!!
# Jan 13 2006 at 7:58 AM Rating: Default
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wrong post ><


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# Jan 10 2006 at 11:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Here's my 2 gil, I use this dagger in my thf offhand. Do i hit for zero? rarely but... on crabs with majority of pt's fight 52-58 kuftal/boyoda/terrigan(crabs with any buff) almost 100% yes. the biggest problem its it wiffing alot. you need alot of acc+ to make this thing work for you. i use sniper's life belt and squid sushi seems to be plenty enough. You get 100% in about 20-25sec dependin on if you rng atk. that slows it down some.
on a side note. the occasionally atk's 2-3 i see ratio of 30% 1hit 50% 2hit 20% 3hit and the delay of 192 starts delay after first swing so if you get 3 you just go into the next round without stopping ^^
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#BARRD, Posted: Jan 05 2006 at 8:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) how the **** do i get this thing
Hitting for 0s
# Dec 31 2005 at 9:00 PM Rating: Good
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Just for fun, I went Hornetneedle/Beestinger in an EXP party at 73 once. We EXPed on Decorative Weapons in sky. I only hit for 0s with the Beestinger very rarely, maybe once in a few fights (not counting mob's stoneskin)

Having two 150 delay daggers got me 100% in about 30 seconds, even though I don't have any "uber" accuracy gear or anything. Sirocco/Mercurial Kris would be an incredible combo for TP gain I think.
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0 DMG?
# Dec 24 2005 at 8:05 PM Rating: Decent
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To all of those who have not tried this dagger and is saying how it will hit for 0, you're wrong. I have never hit for 0; with the exception of mob type (example: Skeleton) and defense boost (example: stoneskin). Sure, the DMG is still low but it's frequent multiple hits make up for that (let's say you are hitting for 4 DMG a hit with Mercurial, now times that by 2 or 3. 8~12DMG. So it's almost identical to Hornetneedle, but more TP).
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# Dec 24 2005 at 9:51 AM Rating: Default
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The job that would obviously get the most out of this lv 50 knife would be Rdm. Why SE, why do you taunt us so? ; ; Give us a multi-hit knife... that rdm can use!
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# Dec 20 2005 at 9:30 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah um, whenever you hit a mob for 0 you get NO tp, and the mob gets NO tp. It's no better than a miss.
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Actually . . . . it's a very useful soloing technique for Rdm/Nin or Nin/Rdm. You don't hit the monster for damage, it doesn't build up TP and destroy you with a special attack. You don't get hit, because you're /Nin, it also gets no TP. You let your en-spells do the real work (they don't give tp). I have seen a video of a Rdm/Nin soloing Bune using this trick. It's useful, because you can focus your gear entirely on Acc, Dex, and Agl, without working about Atk or Str. Hmmm... Aiming Bracelets application maybe?
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# Dec 20 2005 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Look at it this way say your level 60 and u have a dagger that has damage of 20 ok. Now take that dagger away and equip this one now you may attack 2-3 times for damage of 16-24 but u also get i believe 10-15 tp if correct unless hit once. If subbing nin keep your main dagger as a high damage dagger for your weapon skills having a sam in party you would keep up faster and skillchain every minute . Do to sneak attack every minute that u can only use it at least u wil have higher tp at the time to cause more damage in a shorter period of time. This nis only my opinion tho everyone has there thoughts on different things thats what makes us unique.

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# Dec 23 2005 at 8:41 PM Rating: Default
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KRAKEN CLUB BISH!
11 dmg i was doing 10 - 15 dmg a hit with it while still getting skill ups as a THF on IT Darters and crawlers as well. now just STFU till you have tried it because i am sick of stupid people talking out their *** like that. a THFs job is hate control no to be a main DD (210 delay dagger? no thanks)
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the only problem with this knife is the dmg. yes, it is amazing for getting TP very fast, if u can land any dmg. I am a thf, and i have a harpe subbed hornetneedle. with my main hand, i hit for about 40 dmg and with my sub i hit for ****, maybe 15 on ITs. now keep in mind hornetneedle's dmg is 16, this dmg is 8. i believe that if u were to take this to an EXP pt as a thf, ud be wasting ur time hitting for 0s. on the other hand tho, it would be nice for soloing as a thf because most of our soloing dmg comes from dancing edge and sneak attack, even if u hit for 1 dmg three times, thats 15 TP+5 more from ur main hand. and then, of course, theres always a chance of triple attack giving u a maximum of 60 tp in a single attack round!
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the only problem with this knife is the dmg. yes, it is amazing for getting TP very fast, if u can land any dmg. I am a thf, and i have a harpe subbed hornetneedle. with my main hand, i hit for about 40 dmg and with my sub i hit for ****, maybe 15 on ITs. now keep in mind hornetneedle's dmg is 16, this dmg is 8. i believe that if u were to take this to an EXP pt as a thf, ud be wasting ur time hitting for 0s. on the other hand tho, it would be nice for soloing as a thf because most of our soloing dmg comes from dancing edge and sneak attack, even if u hit for 1 dmg three times, thats 15 TP+5 more from ur main hand. and then, of course, theres always a chance of triple attack giving u a maximum of 60 tp in a single attack round!
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# Dec 21 2005 at 11:53 PM Rating: Good
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actually, 30tp is the max, even with this knife, "occasionally attacks 2-3 times" does not stack with triple attack, either one or the other would go off, which is a little disappointing, but understandable in the same right
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Actually this dagger isnt good for thief really at all. Maybe farming. 8 damage is crappy, and a thief's main goal isnt to get TP extremely fast, its better to do decent damage over time instead of gaining tp fast. BD/SK >> almost everything.

Id still like it to goof aaround with.
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Getting TP out the **** is fine, but 9 times out of 10 in an xp party you still have a TP partner you have to wait on for the skillchain. If you're hitting for 2-5 damage a swing but you have 200 TP by the time your partner has 100, well maybe it would be worth using a stronger weapon, as long as you aren't being out-TPed. In most cases having that little bit extra isn't going to do -terribly- much for you.

I'm curious as to whether this dagger ever does hit for 0 though. Would be nice to have one one day just to try out, but people on Bahamut are morons for setting the price so high on it. :P
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THFs job is to gain TP as Mithrakittie said. though you are right, it's not good for a THF in exp pt unless you are pimpin some good subtle blow gear.
as for your mithrakittie, i am very glad to see another THF that knows his/her job and place in a PT! /hurray
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# Dec 20 2005 at 1:02 AM Rating: Good
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and a thief's main goal isnt to get TP extremely fast, its better to do decent damage over time instead of gaining tp fast


Wow, I have been playing THF for a long time and I have yet to hear that... In my experience, TP is what is THF is all about... Our job is (to my current understanding) building TP, since our damage is not that desireable, and use that TP to: Place hate, and close/open skillchains for MB's. (Reason for all our Accuracy Gear > STR and Attack gear.)

Yeah, I have seen decent damage on mobs when we have BRD in PT, but that is to be expected from any DD w/ Dual Attack songs. However, I would suggest buffing up on some *Subtle Blow* gear IE: Dragon Harness and Raja's Ring, if you dont wanna give the mob too much TP.

I would love to have this as my sub weapon + haste = TP Rate ~ Impossible to Gauge, Yes, please!
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since when is thf bad damage i do around 1k TA dancing edge i would take stats over this dagger any day i have +18 STR +30 DEX +20 agi at lv70 this dagger even if i wanted to use it would be worthless in exp pt it would slow your TP on certin mobs cuase it will hit for 0,0, 0 with 29 and 19 damage daggers and 326 base att i still hit for 0 on some mobs and all thats without a brd. and after a certin point u shouldent even be subbing nin for exp pts unless u noob/lazy puller that dosent want to just do it right THF/WAR is wat i do unless iam pulling somthing thats uber fast and cant help geting hit as THF/WAR with a brd i can get my att to 534 and brak 1k on TA sharkbite/dancing edge easly on most tries.
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NOOB! wtf.... do you not know what /nin is for as a THF? DEX and AGI you dumb ****. WS dmg is better with NIN sub due to your sub weapon! you with your 1 dagger only hit 5 times with your DE while with NIN as a sub you hit 6 times and with the added stats from NIN you get better DMG.
as far as lazy pulling? wtf is that... you pull then go to sleep or what? or are you talking about the mages that have to cure you after? and what the **** are you fighting and still hitting for 0? Amakiri? or was it a Earth Elemental with stoneskin up? at lvl 72 i have 68 base STR with +15 or more and +32 DEX and +24 AGI... and thats will all cheap gear because i am a broke THF.... i stopped hitting for 0 after i stopped fighting crabs!

i had to be a a$$ because people made me this way ^^ har har har....
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Sorry, but you're wrong. Weaponskill damage will always be much higher with berserk than the few stat bonuses you get from /NIN. This is true for THF and RNG (interesting that Berserk affects Ranged Attack too), jobs where SATA comes from the main or won't stack with weaponskills.
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#Soulmage, Posted: Dec 19 2005 at 10:11 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) let me ******* guess some dork **** is going to put this to 300 million to???
Strategy~
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Mercurial Kris Fight Manaburn Strategy:

The fight itself is somewhat difficult, and I have not done this in any other strategy other than a traditional straight-up all-SMN Lv 20+ manaburn.

Step 1: Trade chart to the ??? at the Whitebone Beach in Valkurm Dunes.

Step 2: Watch the short and somewhat disturbing CS of the poor taru dying... During the CS he will tell you to fish, and a level cap will appear (20 cap) in which case, all SMN summon their avatars, Astral Flow, and then for the love of Altana, FISH.

Step 3: The invaders consist of a Crab, a kraken-type, and a Sahagin.

Step 4: As soon as they surface, blast them with everything you have, whichever blood pacts you desire (preferrably not Diabolos due to the special nature of his 2hr. You can find more info on him here.)

Step 5: You should have wiped them out in 1 wave of Astral Flows, Congratulate yourselves on having hopefully gotten this rare and extraordinarily valuable dagger (going 55M on Siren).

*Note* Mistress Melphina offers a much more comprehensive guide which a link was put in to in the post below. Take care~
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NM fight?
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Thank you for the info on the Kris. I've been fishing up Bhefhel Marlin like crazy trying to get the map, just haven't been able to get one yet.

But when I do, can you post the battle strategy for the NM fight?

I'd appreciate it much.
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This dagger sells for 50 million in the Batallia (spelling?) bazaars and only two ever sold on AH. One was for 1 gil from the seller to himself. The one after that was from the same seller but the buyer paid 64 MILLION gil for it O.O.

IT IS UBER I WANT IT

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Hello, I'm the one who submitted the pictures and info on this dagger. There is a post on the thf forumns that has a full detailed guide to obtaining this knife. The link is Here.


As far as the dagger itself goes, from my personal experience it attackes twice about 60% of the time maybe a little higher and attacks three times about the same as it attacks once, but there are slightly more triples than singles although not super noticeable.

As far as practicality, this baby is a TP MACHINE. It in my opinion is the single best offhand dagger for THF/NIN for almost any lvl 50+. I have a friend on my server who has one as well and he is a lvl 75 thf and he *still* uses it in exp party when he gets the chance.

Final notes: to get this dagger requires a significant investment into fishing or buying bhefel marlins. Marlins range anywhere from 10k upwards of 25k each and don't stack. The drop rate on the dagger in the actual NM fight is horrible however and I hear some are as bad as 0/15 with it. Going rate on most servers is 50 million although I hear that on some it's as low as 30 million and on others it's as high as 65 million.

Anyways that's about all there is to know about this dagger. Hope that helps.

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